Ancestry has the Dorset Baptisms for Charlton Marshal: 8 May 1883 - Charles Richard son of Richard and Mary Jane BRIDLE 2 Mar 1884 - Alfred Bridle -do- 2 Mar 1884 - Edward Bridle -do- 2 Mar 1884 - Mary Amelia Bridle -do- 2 Mar 1884 - Sarah Ann Bridle -do- Abode Boots Close, father's occupation Labourer Unfortunately no birth dates given, but I would hazard a guess that those four were not quadruplets! J On 24 July 2011 12:31, richard avery <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi My grandmother Mary Amelia Avery died in St Albans aged 77 in 1953. Her maiden name was Bridle and my father and one of his brothers Reginald Avery was born and lived in Reigate Surrey. Although I know the their marriage date was 1890 in Dorset I cannot trace either her birth or her parents. If anyone can help I would be most grateful William Avery > ***************************************

Hi Caroline, Have you tried electoral rolls? Postal directories etc Cheers Pam > Hi I am srtuggling to locate anything else about my aunt she was born in > 1922 Bradford West Yorks, and was the oldest daughter on my mum's side. > Her > name was Florence Emily Masngo and she went to London Chelsea to work as a > nurse in about 1940's, she was married there in 1943 to Jaques Biver they > later divorced in 1956, he re-married but thats all I can locate about my > aunt? I would have thought that it would be easy to locate something about > her especially from 1950's? Any clues as to where to look kind thanks > Caroline >

Hi My grandmother Mary Amelia Avery died in St Albans aged 77 in 1953. Her maiden name was Bridle and my father and one of his brothers Reginald Avery was born and lived in Reigate Surrey. Although I know the their marriage date was 1890 in Dorset I cannot trace either her birth or her parents. If anyone can help I would be most grateful William Avery

>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alan Mills" <[email protected]> >> >>>I am seeking help from someone with access to the 1851 census. The entry >>>for John Young, age 78, living in Newdigate, Surrey (HO 107/1598 folio 130) >>>shows the place of birth to be Hishut, Sussex or something similar. Is it >>>Hishut or am I and the Ancestry transcribers misreading it? If it is Hishut >>>I can find no such place. There is a Heyshott in Sussex. It certainly does look like Hishut, comparing the letters to others on the page, but I would say that it was Heyshott, near Midhurst, Sussex, which, if pronounced quickly could easily sound like 'Hishut', especially if spoken in a dialect. Ros

Thanks very much to all who helped with this entry. On balance I think it does say Hishut although I will explore the other suggestions. I think Heyshott in Sussex is the most likely place and note that the Oxford dictionary of place names has the earliest recorded spelling of Heyshott as 'Hesset' in 1244. I wonder whether pronunciation based on this spelling survived amongst locals into the late 18thC? Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Mills" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:27 PM Subject: [SRY] 1851 census query >I am seeking help from someone with access to the 1851 census. The entry >for John Young, age 78, living in Newdigate, Surrey (HO 107/1598 folio 130) >shows the place of birth to be Hishut, Sussex or something similar. Is it >Hishut or am I and the Ancestry transcribers misreading it? If it is Hishut >I can find no such place. There is a Heyshott in Sussex. Maybe it is or was >pronounced Hiss-hut? Any advice / comments gratefully received ! > Alan Mills

I have been following this line on John Davey. When I looked at the page cited I thought that it was indeed Hishut. But then I went to the next page and the page before looking for a word that ended with a T. I found the name Harriett the page before. He used a separate stroke to cross that pair of T's. But then, just to make it all the more confusing, on the second page there is also another Harriett and a Harriott that he did not use a separate stroke to cross those T's. Bill

Hi Alan, I have noted the response to your query and trust the following will help you. John Young was a lodger at the time and I have copied the full entry in the 1851 census, (The place is clearly SELHURST). Here is the full entry. 1851 Census: Address Newdigate Village Surrey ROFFEY James 38 Head Carpenter Born Leigh Surrey ROFFEY Sarah 33 Wife Born Newdigate Surrey ROFFEY John 9 Nephew Scholar Born " " ROFFEY Sarah 8 Daughter Scholar Born " " YOUNG John 78 Lodger Ag.Labourer Born Selhurst Surrey YOUNG Mary 75 Lodger Born Charlwood Surrey (Mary his wife ??) Registration District Newdigate Surrey Regards Renee Oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Mills" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 5:27 AM Subject: [SRY] 1851 census query >I am seeking help from someone with access to the 1851 census. The entry >for John Young, age 78, living in Newdigate, Surrey (HO 107/1598 folio 130) >shows the place of birth to be Hishut, Sussex or something similar. Is it >Hishut or am I and the Ancestry transcribers misreading it? If it is Hishut >I can find no such place. There is a Heyshott in Sussex. Maybe it is or was >pronounced Hiss-hut? Any advice / comments gratefully received ! > Alan Mills > > *************************************** >

I have a place finder for 1891 and there is no place called Hishut or any thing like it I don't have access to the 1851 census Regards Keith -----Original Message----- From: Geoff Chew Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 7:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SRY] 1851 census query It's clearly entered as "Sussex, Hishut" Geoff On 22 July 2011 08:34, Chris Willis wrote: > > many years ago, when FHSs were not allowed to make full transcripts of the > censuses, West Surrey FHS produced a household index for West Surrey, > 1851. > It contains the following record: > > NEWDIGATE: YOUNG John 78 (Ssx: Heyshott?); Mary 75 (Charlwood) 1598 > f.130r > > So, our transcribers thought it might be Heyshott. At this distance, I am > unsure whether the SSX means there was a county entered, or that was the > county of the best reading. It appears that SRY is not entered. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Mills" <[email protected]> > >>I am seeking help from someone with access to the 1851 census. The entry >>for John Young, age 78, living in Newdigate, Surrey (HO 107/1598 folio >>130) >>shows the place of birth to be Hishut, Sussex or something similar. Is it >>Hishut or am I and the Ancestry transcribers misreading it? If it is >>Hishut >>I can find no such place. There is a Heyshott in Sussex. -- Geoff Chew [email protected] *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

G/Day Heyshott is in Sussex Regards Keith -----Original Message----- From: Chris Willis Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SRY] 1851 census query Hi many years ago, when FHSs were not allowed to make full transcripts of the censuses, West Surrey FHS produced a household index for West Surrey, 1851. It contains the following record: NEWDIGATE: YOUNG John 78 (Ssx: Heyshott?); Mary 75 (Charlwood) 1598 f.130r So, our transcribers thought it might be Heyshott. At this distance, I am unsure whether the SSX means there was a county entered, or that was the county of the best reading. It appears that SRY is not entered. Chris Willis in Yateley, Hants ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Mills" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:27 PM Subject: [SRY] 1851 census query >I am seeking help from someone with access to the 1851 census. The entry >for John Young, age 78, living in Newdigate, Surrey (HO 107/1598 folio 130) >shows the place of birth to be Hishut, Sussex or something similar. Is it >Hishut or am I and the Ancestry transcribers misreading it? If it is Hishut >I can find no such place. There is a Heyshott in Sussex. Maybe it is or was >pronounced Hiss-hut? Any advice / comments gratefully received ! > Alan Mills > *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's clearly entered as "Sussex, Hishut" Geoff On 22 July 2011 08:34, Chris Willis wrote: > > many years ago, when FHSs were not allowed to make full transcripts of the > censuses, West Surrey FHS produced a household index for West Surrey, 1851. > It contains the following record: > > NEWDIGATE:      YOUNG John 78 (Ssx: Heyshott?); Mary 75 (Charlwood) 1598 > f.130r > > So, our transcribers thought it might be Heyshott. At this distance, I am > unsure whether the SSX means there was a county entered, or that was the > county of the best reading. It appears that SRY is not entered. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Mills" <[email protected]> > >>I am seeking help from someone with access to the 1851 census. The entry >>for John Young, age 78, living in Newdigate, Surrey (HO 107/1598 folio 130) >>shows the place of birth to be Hishut, Sussex or something similar. Is it >>Hishut or am I and the Ancestry transcribers misreading it? If it is Hishut >>I can find no such place. There is a Heyshott in Sussex. -- Geoff Chew [email protected]

Had a look in ancestry and on the internet in general but could only come up with her birth and marriage. Tried alternative spellings but no good. Of course she may well still be alive and perhaps no details anywhere. Have you tried checking on the U.K. telephone list? Paul ________________________________ From: Caroline Coffey <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 2:03 PM Subject: [SRY] re; missing aunt? Hi I have been trying to locate my aunt for several years with no luck? The earlier the records the easier it seems to be able to locate. My aunt was born in 1922 in Bradford West  Yorkshire, she left the family after a quarrel and went to London to train as a nurse in London she was married to a Belgium soldier my aunt was called Florence Emily Masngo and her husband Jaques Biver. They later divorced in abt 1956 and that is all I can locate about her? I just wanted to know if anyone can give me any advice thanks caroline *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at:  [email protected]   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi many years ago, when FHSs were not allowed to make full transcripts of the censuses, West Surrey FHS produced a household index for West Surrey, 1851. It contains the following record: NEWDIGATE: YOUNG John 78 (Ssx: Heyshott?); Mary 75 (Charlwood) 1598 f.130r So, our transcribers thought it might be Heyshott. At this distance, I am unsure whether the SSX means there was a county entered, or that was the county of the best reading. It appears that SRY is not entered. Chris Willis in Yateley, Hants ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Mills" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:27 PM Subject: [SRY] 1851 census query >I am seeking help from someone with access to the 1851 census. The entry >for John Young, age 78, living in Newdigate, Surrey (HO 107/1598 folio 130) >shows the place of birth to be Hishut, Sussex or something similar. Is it >Hishut or am I and the Ancestry transcribers misreading it? If it is Hishut >I can find no such place. There is a Heyshott in Sussex. Maybe it is or was >pronounced Hiss-hut? Any advice / comments gratefully received ! > Alan Mills >

Hi Alan Remembering that what we see is a transcript in itself The enumerator transcribed the household schedule and if he had not heard of a place and could not read it well, he may have had a best stab at it How about Ashurst Sussex (or he sneezed <g>) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >I am seeking help from someone with access to the 1851 census. The entry for John Young, age 78, >living in Newdigate, Surrey (HO 107/1598 folio 130) shows the place of birth to be Hishut, Sussex >or something similar. Is it Hishut or am I and the Ancestry transcribers misreading it? If it is >Hishut I can find no such place. There is a Heyshott in Sussex. Maybe it is or was pronounced >Hiss-hut? Any advice / comments gratefully received ! > Alan Mills

I am seeking help from someone with access to the 1851 census. The entry for John Young, age 78, living in Newdigate, Surrey (HO 107/1598 folio 130) shows the place of birth to be Hishut, Sussex or something similar. Is it Hishut or am I and the Ancestry transcribers misreading it? If it is Hishut I can find no such place. There is a Heyshott in Sussex. Maybe it is or was pronounced Hiss-hut? Any advice / comments gratefully received ! Alan Mills

Hi I am srtuggling to locate anything else about my aunt she was born in 1922 Bradford West Yorks, and was the oldest daughter on my mum's side. Her name was Florence Emily Masngo and she went to London Chelsea to work as a nurse in about 1940's, she was married there in 1943 to Jaques Biver they later divorced in 1956, he re-married but thats all I can locate about my aunt? I would have thought that it would be easy to locate something about her especially from 1950's? Any clues as to where to look kind thanks Caroline

On 21/07/11 02:10, Carla Mikkelson wrote: > Hello: Is there some kind soul out there that has access to the 1911 census and can do a look up for me? > I am trying to progress my family with the names above. I am looking for the following: > William Thomas Edwards born 1865 Reigate his wife > Alice Maude Edwards born 1866 in Wavendon, Bucks their children > Clifford Harradine Edwards born 1894, Reigate > Adeline Edwards born 1896, Reigate > John Morris Edwards born 1902, Reigate > > I am told there was a fourth child and that child should appear on the 1911 census which I do not have > access to. I would appreciate any help you can give to give me a possible further name and year of birth. > They were living in Reigate at the time of the 1901 census, except the mother who was visiting her own > mother in Eversholt, Bedfordshire. You can see the 1911 census index on genesreunited for free, too, although you can't see the pages without paying. There is an Elspet Clarissa Alice Edwards b. 1908 in the same household as William Thomas. -- Regards Dave

Hello: Is there some kind soul out there that has access to the 1911 census and can do a look up for me? I am trying to progress my family with the names above. I am looking for the following: William Thomas Edwards born 1865 Reigate his wife Alice Maude Edwards born 1866 in Wavendon, Bucks their children Clifford Harradine Edwards born 1894, Reigate Adeline Edwards born 1896, Reigate John Morris Edwards born 1902, Reigate    I am told there was a fourth child and that child should appear on the 1911 census which I do not have access to. I would appreciate any help you can give to give me a possible further name and year of birth. They were living in Reigate at the time of the 1901 census, except the mother who was visiting her own mother in Eversholt, Bedfordshire.   Cheers and many many thanks in anticipation.....   Carla Auckland, New Zealand

Failysearch.org has the 1911 census and you can search for free Patricia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carla Mikkelson Sent: Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SRY] EDWARDS/ROOM/ALLISON families Hello: Is there some kind soul out there that has access to the 1911 census and can do a look up for me? I am trying to progress my family with the names above. I am looking for the following: William Thomas Edwards born 1865 Reigate his wife Alice Maude Edwards born 1866 in Wavendon, Bucks their children Clifford Harradine Edwards born 1894, Reigate Adeline Edwards born 1896, Reigate John Morris Edwards born 1902, Reigate    I am told there was a fourth child and that child should appear on the 1911 census which I do not have access to. I would appreciate any help you can give to give me a possible further name and year of birth. They were living in Reigate at the time of the 1901 census, except the mother who was visiting her own mother in Eversholt, Bedfordshire.   Cheers and many many thanks in anticipation.....   Carla Auckland, New Zealand *************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3777 - Release Date: 07/20/11

Hi I have been trying to locate my aunt for several years with no luck? The earlier the records the easier it seems to be able to locate. My aunt was born in 1922 in Bradford West Yorkshire, she left the family after a quarrel and went to London to train as a nurse in London she was married to a Belgium soldier my aunt was called Florence Emily Masngo and her husband Jaques Biver. They later divorced in abt 1956 and that is all I can locate about her? I just wanted to know if anyone can give me any advice thanks caroline

Thanks Ann. Unfortunately I had eliminated this family as they remained in Dunsfold having 8 children between 1787 and 1800. Family tradition is that 3 brothers Young came from Scotland in the mid-18thC and settled in Surrey / Sussex but I can find nothing to support this. Certainly some of my other family traditions relating to the 19thC are mostly incorrect with sometimes a grain of truth. For example, my ggf emigrated to Canada around 1860 supposedly with 3 brothers; he did have 3 brothers but they all stayed in England! It is possible that he emigrated with one or more cousins though. Anyway ... thanks for your help Alan > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:10:17 +0100 > >> Is anyone researching Youngs in the Horley, Charlwood, Horne area? For >> years I have been stuck on James & Mary Young who have children Thomas >> (1789, Charlwood), Elizabeth (Charlwood, 1790), Henry (1795, Horley), >> Edward (1797, Horley) and possibly William ca. 1795. >> >> I am unable to find a likely marriage of James Young & Mary X; neither >> can >> I find a likely birth for James although I suspect he may be an >> unrecorded >> birth of James Young christened in Horley in 1754. >> Any help much appreciated! > Alan Mills > > Hello Alan > > Unfortunately as you will know there are a number of marriages that fit > the > names and timeframe in counties outside of Surrey. However there is one > closer to 'home'. > > Has this one been eliminated? James Young and Mary Tullett 6 Nov 1786 > after Banns at Dunsfold? (source WSFHS Surrey Marriage Index) > > Ann >