Hi again Just checked freebmd and I did add a postem to the Ebenezer BUNN entry I thought I had also sent a correction but have done that now Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Jean > There is a marriage in Sep 1884 in Croyden, Sry of William Henry Buckley > but FreeBMD ony has 2 man & 1 woman listed so perhaps someone could > check for you. > > I have a Herbert Stevens b 1884 in my tree & he links to Croydon, E > Greenwich & Hastings, the child born in 1900 to teenage parents was > raised by grandparents & then amrried aunt & used both surnames. > > Cheers > Jo

Hi Jo The 1884 William married the Charlotte MILES Its the delightfully named Ebenezer BUNN who is the interloper, the reference is 2a 441 not the transcribed 411 I thought I had added a correction for that marriage, but will do so now Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Jean > There is a marriage in Sep 1884 in Croyden, Sry of William Henry Buckley > but FreeBMD ony has 2 man & 1 woman listed so perhaps someone could > check for you. > > I have a Herbert Stevens b 1884 in my tree & he links to Croydon, E > Greenwich & Hastings, the child born in 1900 to teenage parents was > raised by grandparents & then amrried aunt & used both surnames. > > Cheers > Jo

Hi Jean There is a marriage in Sep 1884 in Croyden, Sry of William Henry Buckley but FreeBMD ony has 2 man & 1 woman listed so perhaps someone could check for you. I have a Herbert Stevens b 1884 in my tree & he links to Croydon, E Greenwich & Hastings, the child born in 1900 to teenage parents was raised by grandparents & then amrried aunt & used both surnames. Cheers Jo

Hello Jean Georges Parents were Jonathan Stevens b 12 mar 1798 and Sophia Hastings b 1797. Jonathan's parents were John Stevens and Mary Humphreys . Bob

Just a point or two .... According to the transcript on Ancestry in 1891, Emma was 37, born 1854, not 1849 as mentioned in previous Emails. The death mentioned for Emma in 1922 on the index has the middle initial "L" which could be a clue as to finding the correct Emma. Could she be using her middle name in 1911? There's a birth at Croydon 1849 of an Emma Louisa Stevens, but is this the correct one? I have had experience of 2nd forenames being non-existent on birth indexes and only appearing on baptism records etc. There's a whole host of Emma Stevens (and Emma Buckleys for that matter) in and around Surrey and Middlesex. So far I have not been able to find a marriage between William Buckley and Emma Stevens. Was the surname Stevens obtained from either Ernest or grace's birth certificates, or deduced from the fact that an Elizabeth Stevens was with her in certain censuses? Kind regards, Jon

No problem Just to say I have checked every address in Sunnybank in 1911 but nothing very exciting found The occupant of number 21 is Alfred George COULSELL Ancestry don't have a directory for the 1907 period, the nearest is 1911 Have retried as many variations as I can think of to no avail ie all Emma's born Croydon 1849 +/-2 years all Emma's born Surrey 1850 +/- 10 years all Emma's as housekeeper all E B born Surrey 1850 +/- 10 years She is hiding very well :-( Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Sorry Nivard thought I had a new lead but as you say been there done that > one > I just had a look at Kelly's Directory 1913 for South Norwood > and there is a Miss SMITH at 21 Sunny Bank I am wondering if I may have read > the no wrong > on the will as Emma's dad James Francis STEVENS left 500 hundred pounds to a > Fanny SMITH in 1879 > one of 3 fancy women he had when he died in Haiti

Hi I am trying to find Emma Buckley nee SEVENS on 1911 census b1849 Croydon - d 1922 Mile End London have been for years the latest I have got is 1907 she was at 61 Sunny Bank South Norwood Surrey a widow ( from a will) I did get the 1911 census but she was not there is there any way I can find out who was at that address at that time ? she was in Portland road South Norwood Surrey in 1881 census 1901 Queens road Croydon hope someone can help Jean Perth WA

A PS to my earlier posting: I believe it was called Peckham Park School A good source of local history can be found at http://www.peckhamsociety.org.uk/ T. On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:16:34 +0100 (BST) Madeleine Berks <[email protected]> wrote: > My dad lived in Furley Street , Peckham as a young lad.  Does anyone have any idea where I could get information about the schools that where in his area at that time.  I would very much like to look at the archives.  Thank you Madeleine

Hi Madeline Furley Street - these days called Furley Road and the section between Fenham Rd and Goldsmith Rd, on one side of the road the old houses are still there 2 streets east is Friary Road with the school at the junction of Frairy and Fenham Rds Still there and very visible on Google Map ...drag the little man down and you can walk round the school in the 1940/50s it was both both infants and juniors ...I went there! Cheers Terry On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:16:34 +0100 (BST) Madeleine Berks <[email protected]> wrote: > My dad lived in Furley Street , Peckham as a young lad.  Does anyone have any idea where I could get information about the schools that where in his area at that time.  I would very much like to look at the archives.  Thank you Madeleine

Hi Linda I looked at this a while back Refs below 1901 Grace BUCKLEY b1890 24 Queens Road Croydon RG13 648 28 48 1911 Violet SIMPSON age 2 61 Sunnybank South Norwood S E RG14 Piece: 3377 Reference: RG14PN3377 RG78PN127 RD39 SD4 ED10 SN230 Hope you have more luck than I did finding Emma in 1911 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) PS I think Jean left off a letter the maiden name was I believe it was STEVENS > Hi Jean > > I'm having a job finding any of the addresses you've given - never mind the > 1911! > > Can you give us the census references for 1881 & 1901 please > > Linda > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 6:19 AM, Jean Wilson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi >> I am trying to find Emma Buckley nee SEVENS >> on 1911 census b1849 Croydon - d 1922 Mile End London >> have been for years >> the latest I have got is 1907 she was at 61 Sunny Bank South Norwood Surrey >> a widow ( from a will) >> I did get the 1911 census but she was not there is there any way >> I can find out who was at that address at that time ? she was in Portland >> road South Norwood Surrey in 1881 census >> 1901 Queens road Croydon >> hope someone can help >> Jean Perth WA

Sounds like the Daleks are invading doesn't it? I made a stupid error in my last posting so this is the correction. Apologies to all concerned. Why not come and talk to us about your own Family History and any problems that you may be having knocking down the proverbial "brick wall"? East Surrey Family History Society will be attending the following events:- Sunday 18th September - History Detective at The Snuff Mill, Morden Hall Park, Morden - National Trust Property Find out more about how to research your family history and how to use local heritage centres. Saturday 1st October - Lambeth Open Day at Minet Library 52, Knatchball Road, London,SE5 9QY Saturday 5th November - West SURREY Familiy History Society Open Day We hope to see at least some of you at one of these events. -- Maureen Burton Member ESFHS

Hi Jean I checked this for you back in June http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ENG-SURREY/2011-06/1308382945 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi > I am trying to find Emma Buckley nee SEVENS > on 1911 census b1849 Croydon - d 1922 Mile End London > have been for years > the latest I have got is 1907 she was at 61 Sunny Bank South Norwood Surrey a widow ( from a will) > I did get the 1911 census but she was not there is there any way > I can find out who was at that address at that time ? she was in Portland road South Norwood > Surrey in 1881 census > 1901 Queens road Croydon > hope someone can help > Jean Perth WA

Hi Jean I'm having a job finding any of the addresses you've given - never mind the 1911! Can you give us the census references for 1881 & 1901 please Linda On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 6:19 AM, Jean Wilson <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi > I am trying to find Emma Buckley nee SEVENS > on 1911 census b1849 Croydon - d 1922 Mile End London > have been for years > the latest I have got is 1907 she was at 61 Sunny Bank South Norwood Surrey > a widow ( from a will) > I did get the 1911 census but she was not there is there any way > I can find out who was at that address at that time ? she was in Portland > road South Norwood Surrey in 1881 census > 1901 Queens road Croydon > hope someone can help > Jean Perth WA > > *************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello I have a family of Stevens in Surrey, George Stevens married Emma Kettle and had a daughter Emma born 1858. Bob

Why not come and talk to us about your own Family History and any problems that you may be having knocking down the proverbial "brick wall"? East Surrey Family History Society will be attending the following events:- Sunday 18th September - History Detective at The Snuff Mill, Morden Hall Park, Morden - National Trust Property Find out more about how to research your family history and how to use local heritage centres. Saturday 1st October - Lambeth Open Day at Minet Library 52, Knatchball Road, London,SE5 9QY Saturday 5th November - West Suffolk Familiy History Society Open Day - Maureen Burton Member ESFHS

I'm passing this onto the Border list, Michael.  Somene may identify with this Karr/Ramsey.  Enjoying your posts even if i don't recognise any of them  :-) le durachd fionnghal __________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >From Whitehall Evening Post ( 1770 ) (  London, England ), December 30, 1795 - January 1, 1796; Issue  7509. WHITEHALL , Dec. 30. The King has granted unto David RAMSEY , of  Hatchford, in the parish of Cobham, in the county of Surrey, Esq., late Governor  of Bombay in the East Indies, and his issue, his royal licence and authority to  assume and take the surname, and bear the arms of KARR of Kippilaw, in addition  to his present surname and arms of RAMSEY, in compliance with a deed of Tailzie  by John KARR, of Kippilaw, in the Shire of Roxburgh, in North Britain, Esq. deceased.

>From Whitehall Evening Post ( 1770 ) ( London, England ), December 30, 1795 - January 1, 1796; Issue 7509. WHITEHALL , Dec. 30. The King has granted unto David RAMSEY , of Hatchford, in the parish of Cobham, in the county of Surrey, Esq., late Governor of Bombay in the East Indies, and his issue, his royal licence and authority to assume and take the surname, and bear the arms of KARR of Kippilaw, in addition to his present surname and arms of RAMSEY, in compliance with a deed of Tailzie by John KARR , of Kippilaw, in the Shire of Roxburgh, in North Britain, Esq. deceased. BANKRUPT. (1796 ) James TATTON , of Egham, Surry, innholder; to surrender Jan. 3, 10, and Feb. 10, at ten, at Guildhall. Attornies, Mr. Thomas HOLLOWAY , Chancery-lane, and Mr. Henry HERNE , Staines.

>From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, August 18, 1832; Issue 4138. At the Guildford assizes, yesterday, W. KIMBER , a butcher, aged 35, was indicted for administering poison to W. EDMONDSON , and his wife, who reside at Walworth, on the 23rd July last. It was alleged that the prisoner had thrown some arsenic into the coffee prepared for the breakfast of his master and mistress. Cause of suspicion was first excited against him, in consequence of it being discovered that he had embezzled some of his master's property, and it was supposed that he intended by this means to prevent the discovery of his dishonesty. The evidence not being sufficient to bring home the crime charged to the prisoner, the jury acquitted him. He was then indicted for the embezzlement, to which he pleaded guilty, and sentenced to 14 years' transportation.

Hi PCC wills are Prerogative Court of Canterbury wills. A good number can be accessed at the UK's National Archives website. They can be downloaded for a fee - £3.50 the last time I used the service. This link takes you to the relevant pages. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/wills.asp Chris Townsend gave you the references, which you can use when searching the NA site. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 19:27:46 -0600 > From: "Barry Millington" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SRY] Andrew Milton  6Nov 1648  - 29 Jan 1676 > > Chris,please forgive my ignorance but where do I gain access to these wills > of the Richard Miltons and what is P.C.C.? > > barry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Townsend" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:12 AM > Subject: Re: [SRY] Andrew Milton 6Nov 1648 - 29 Jan 1676 > > >> Hello Barry, >> >> What leads you to believe that your Andrew was born in Egham?  MILTON is not >> an uncommon surname in England.  Have you exhausted the potential of wills? >> I see this P.C.C. will at the National Archives: >> >> Thomas Milton, Cooper of Stortford, Hertfordshire 13 June 1689 >> ref.PROB11/395 >> >> If you have sound evidence of the Egham connection, then have you >> considered these P.C.C. wills, too?  There may well be relevant wills >> proved elsewhere. >> >> Richard Milton, Yeoman of Chobham, Surrey 14 November 1615 PROB11/126 >> Richard Milton, Yeoman of Egham, Surrey 25 October 1655 PROB11/250 >> >> Chobham is a parish adjacent to Egham. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Chris Townsend :=>< SNIP >>> Thanks >>> Barry Millington in Canada >> -------------------------------- Richard Brown Bromley, Kent U.K. Member of: - E. Surrey Family History Society          )   And in http://www.eastsurreyfhs.org.uk/           )   very Lincolnshire Family History Society       )  good http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/          )  company.

Lots of relevant info here: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/wills.asp?WT.hp=Wills Best wishes, Chris Townsend ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Millington" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:27 AM Subject: Re: [SRY] Andrew Milton 6Nov 1648 - 29 Jan 1676 > Chris,please forgive my ignorance but where do I gain access to these > wills > of the Richard Miltons and what is P.C.C.? > > barry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Townsend" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:12 AM > Subject: Re: [SRY] Andrew Milton 6Nov 1648 - 29 Jan 1676 > >> Hello Barry, >> >> What leads you to believe that your Andrew was born in Egham? MILTON is >> not >> an uncommon surname in England. Have you exhausted the potential of >> wills? >> I see this P.C.C. will at the National Archives: >> >> Thomas Milton, Cooper of Stortford, Hertfordshire 13 June 1689 >> ref.PROB11/395 >> >> If you have sound evidence of the Egham connection, then have you >> considered these P.C.C. wills, too? There may well be relevant wills >> proved >> elsewhere. >> >> Richard Milton, Yeoman of Chobham, Surrey 14 November 1615 PROB11/126 >> Richard Milton, Yeoman of Egham, Surrey 25 October 1655 PROB11/250 >> >> Chobham is a parish adjacent to Egham. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Chris Townsend >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Barry Millington" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 2:32 PM >> Subject: [SRY] Andrew Milton 6Nov 1648 - 29 Jan 1676 >> >>> Hello to everyone in Surrey >>> >>> I have been looking for a while for Andrew Milton b 6 Nov 1648 >>> death 29 Jan 1676. >>> I believe he was born in Egham,Surrey,England and lived in Bishop >>> Stortford, Hertford where he died. >>> >>> His Father I think was called GORGE MILLTON (2 LL) >>> I think I have found GORGE's kids today.. >>> >>> 1 Gorge 2 April 1643 (he could have died young) >>> 2 Gorge 6 Jan 1645 >>> 3 Andrew 6 Nov 1648 >>> 4 Ann 23 Sept 1650 >>> 5 Hana 3 Mar 1655 >>> 6 Sarah 17 Dec 1658 >>> >>> Could anyone please help or verify some of the facts from that area? Did >>> they have anything to do with thr Milton family who did all that poetry >>> writting? >>> >>> This info came from the England Births and Christenings 1538- 1975 for >>> Milton from the LDS Church. Batch number 109892-2. Source film# 994418 >>> Thanks >>> Barry Millington in Canada