In a message dated 1/17/02 4:48:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, mikebeale@supanet.com writes: > Message sent with Supanet E-mail > Joseph born 1900, Middlesex England Died 1961. I know nothing about his > father > or mother. Do you? Where are you from? > > Mike, Regarding Joseph BEALE. I was aware of Joseph's in my BEALE/BEAL line, so I needed to know if you were in England or in US as we have Middlesex Counties here. My line goes back to William BEALE (1664) in York, ME and that line has proven descent coming down to Canada, California & Ohio as well as other states in the US. We recently proved by DNA Surname descent, using Y-chromosome DNA tests that our recorded history is accurate. This test utilizes the Y-chromosome which is passed down the male line of descent, thus paralleling the recorded surname ancestry, e.g., g.g.great-grandfather, g. great-grandfather, great-grandfather, father to living individual bearing the same or similar surname. In our case the surname BEALE was changed in the fourth generation down from William to BEAL. There have been other versions like BALE, BEALS, etc., used in the records covering 11 or 12 generations. We have a "brick wall" in our ancestry as we have not been able to get our ancestry back across the Atlantic to England by either records or DNA testing. I am the project coordinator for The BEAL SURNAME DNA PROJECT and we are very interested in getting BEALE, BEAL descendants in England to participate in our project, if we can locate a living, male BEALE in England with the same DNA, and proven records going back to the 1600s in England we will have found the origin of our BEALE family in England and identified "cousins" in England. This technique has already been used in some other surnames and is one of the objectives in our project. In the project we have already, identified and proved the BEALL descent from Prince George's Co., MD, in the 1600s and are trying to break through a "brick wall" to the BEALLs or BELLs of Scotland. As we build our data base, we eventually should be able to offer an alternate means for individuals like yourself, who have limited knowledge of their ancestry to realize proven genealogy by scientific DNA testing If you or any of the BEALEs you come across in England or the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand or South Africa would like to participate, we would be very happy to include them in the project. The only drawback to participating is: the DNA Testing costs money and although we have been able to obtain a quantity discount, it is a very reasonable cost compared to doing family reconstruction on your own. We compared costs from Oxford in England and other laboratories in the US, before selecting: http://www.familytreedna.com Participants in our project have been very happy to have their genealogy research by conventional methods verified by genetics! We are at the cutting edge of a new genealogy tool for genealogy! I am a family genealogist, who voluntarily started this project and receives no remuneration for doing this project, to the contrary, I have invested my time and money to run this project for the next several years. You can find the project objectives, background, links and results at: http://www.hometown.aol.com/bealsurnamedna/index.html Chuck, Charles E. Beal, Project Coordinator for THE BEAL SURNAME DNA PROJECT Family Genealogist, Member of NEW ENGLAND HISTORIC GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY, MAYFLOWER SOCIETY, BELL and BEALL FAMILY ASSOCIATIONS, BEALS HISTORIC SOCIETY