In a message dated 6/16/02 12:41:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, paulstickley@wycol.com writes: > Charles: What is the current status of the project? Number of > participants? Specimen source (buccal smear?)? Time lapse between sample & > report to individual? Project report due date? Brief findings overview? > Comments? > The BEAL SURNAME DNA PROJECT is still going and the number of participants is also continuing to grow. We have results back on 25 participants. Please go to: http://www.hometown.aol/bealsurnamedna/results.html I am also using what I call a thumbnail migration pattern to assist visitors & participants and to encourage participation in the project at: www.hometown.aol/bealsurnamedna/migration.html The samples taken are buccal smears and the time lapse for participant wait was as long as 12 weeks, but is now down to about 6 weeks. We are very satisfied with our results from: Family Tree, Ltd. at: http://www.familytreedna.com and hope to see their University of Arizona data base grow! Of course, I would like to see all the data bases in the world combined into a master data base where matches could be made to benefit all the existing and future DNA projects, the longer the providers of DNA testing wait to do this, the more difficult it will make it to do! Look at the history of standardization of other things in this world! If you look at the results particularly for the BEALL surname, we have provided extended information on ancestry, identified earliest early immigrants to the US for participants, established relationships for some of the earliest immigrant ancestors. Most of this verifying and enhancing proven recorded ancestry! In the Bell surname ancestry we have proven the relationship of a Canadian branch to a branch in Argentina! In the BEALE/BEAL surname results we have tied together descendants of an earliest immigrant ancestor in York, ME in 1600s for Ohio, California & Canadian BEAL families, already proven by recorded ancestry. We have disproved a common ancestry in the last twenty generations for a MELLICK family in the US & UK. All of this with a limited amount of participation from the thousands of potential participants in the surnames we know exist from census figures. We are not supported adequately by family associations, who are apparently afraid of possible legal consequences if they advocate DNA testing! We are answering some of the objectives set out on my home page at: www.hometown.aol/bealsurname/index.html and hope to benefit from our increasing concentration on obtaining participants from Scotland, Ireland, England, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, South Africa, South America with our participants in the US. All are countries involved in the process of tying the DNA Y-chromosome haplotypes together to identify common ancestors and connect families of the same surname together. We have not changed our year old goal of keeping the project going for at least three years. We have even higher hopes of more startling results, as the project continues to grow and the numbers of participants increase. Can I interest you in starting or participating in a STICKLEY surname DNA study? Do you have unresolved family relationships or have hit "Brick Walls" in researching your ancestry and wonder where your family originated? Please contact me and we will work on trying to answer these questions. Regards, Charles E. Beal Project Coordinator of the BEAL SURNAME DNA PROJECT, member NEW ENGLAND HISTORIC GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY, BEALS HISTORICAL SOCIETY, MAYFLOWER SOCIETY, OLD YORK HISTORICAL SOCIETY, BEALL and BELL FAMILY ASSOCIATIONS. Protected by daily updates of Norton Virus Protection software.

In a message dated 6/16/02 12:41:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, paulstickley@wycol.com writes: > Charles: What is the current status of the project? Number of > participants? Specimen source (buccal smear?)? Time lapse between sample & > report to individual? Project report due date? Brief findings overview? > Comments? > The BEAL SURNAME DNA PROJECT is still going and the number of participants is also continuing to grow. We have results back on 25 participants. Please go to: http://www.hometown.aol/bealsurnamedna/results.html I am also using what I call a thumbnail migration pattern to assist visitors & participants and to encourage participation in the project at: www.hometown.aol/bealsurnamedna/migration.html The samples taken are buccal smears and the time lapse for participant wait was as long as 12 weeks, but is now down to about 6 weeks. We are very satisfied with our results from: Family Tree, Ltd. at: http://www.familytreedna.com and hope to see their University of Arizona data base grow! Of course, I would like to see all the data bases in the world combined into a master data base where matches could be made to benefit all the existing and future DNA projects, the longer the providers of DNA testing wait to do this, the more difficult it will make it to do! Look at the history of standardization of other things in this world! If you look at the results particularly for the BEALL surname, we have provided extended information on ancestry, identified earliest early immigrants to the US for participants, established relationships for some of the earliest immigrant ancestors. Most of this verifying and enhancing proven recorded ancestry! In the Bell surname ancestry we have proven the relationship of a Canadian branch to a branch in Argentina! In the BEALE/BEAL surname results we have tied together descendants of an earliest immigrant ancestor in York, ME in 1600s for Ohio, California & Canadian BEAL families, already proven by recorded ancestry. We have disproved a common ancestry in the last twenty generations for a MELLICK family in the US & UK. All of this with a limited amount of participation from the thousands of potential participants in the surnames we know exist from census figures. We are not supported adequately by family associations, who are apparently afraid of possible legal consequences if they advocate DNA testing! We are answering some of the objectives set out on my home page at: www.hometown.aol/bealsurname/index.html and hope to benefit from our increasing concentration on obtaining participants from Scotland, Ireland, England, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, South Africa, South America with our participants in the US. All are countries involved in the process of tying the DNA Y-chromosome haplotypes together to identify common ancestors and connect families of the same surname together. We have not changed our year old goal of keeping the project going for at least three years. We have even higher hopes of more startling results, as the project continues to grow and the numbers of participants increase. Can I interest you in starting or participating in a STICKLEY surname DNA study? Do you have unresolved family relationships or have hit "Brick Walls" in researching your ancestry and wonder where your family originated? Please contact me and we will work on trying to answer these questions. Regards, Charles E. Beal Project Coordinator of the BEAL SURNAME DNA PROJECT, member NEW ENGLAND HISTORIC GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY, BEALS HISTORICAL SOCIETY, MAYFLOWER SOCIETY, OLD YORK HISTORICAL SOCIETY, BEALL and BELL FAMILY ASSOCIATIONS. Protected by daily updates of Norton Virus Protection software.

Hello this is my first request ,Iam looking for any information on the WELLESLEY surname 1890 onwards not the Duke at the moment please. Best Wishes June

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Researching the following families - HEMSLEY - Basford / Bulwell Notts c 1790 HARWOOD - Bulwell c 1850 Any information will be greatly appreciated. Regards Betty Hemsley, Canada

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I would like to hear from anyone who may have any connection or help with the following names: LOADS Norfolk WRIGHT Hunstanton - Docking Norfolk WILLIAMSON Sedgeforth - Docking - Snetttisham Norfolk or Sunderland and Boldon North East area PATRICK Sunderland - North East SWINNEY Sunderland - North East BOLTON Sunderland TUCKER Sunderland Look forward to hearing from you Sue

I am new to the list and would like to post some of the names that I am researching. Adams Medstead Hampshire Elmes Southwark London Hyde Walton on thames Surrey Lee Ely Cambridgeshire Mann Harbury Warwickshire Pickering harbury Warwickshire sandercock Cardinham Cornwall Thew Hexham Northumberland Wilkins Sydenham kent. Look forward to hearing from any body also researching these names. Kevin and lynne.

unsubscribe ----- Original Message ----- From: <kevynne@xtra.co.nz> To: <ENG-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:10 AM Subject: [ENG-SURNAMES] family names > I am new to the list and would like to post some of the names that I am researching. > Adams Medstead Hampshire > Elmes Southwark London > Hyde Walton on thames Surrey > Lee Ely Cambridgeshire > Mann Harbury Warwickshire > Pickering harbury Warwickshire > sandercock Cardinham Cornwall > Thew Hexham Northumberland > Wilkins Sydenham kent. > Look forward to hearing from any body also researching these names. > Kevin and lynne. > > > ==== ENG-SURNAMES Mailing List ==== > List Help www.jhgreen.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

-------Original Message------- From: George Finkbeiner Date: Thursday, June 13, 2002 4:36:50 AM To: ENG-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: English Surnames Hi- I/ve been on list awhile a watcher hoping to see some names I was researching but so far no one else looking for same, so I will now post here- I am looking for further information on the following Ethel Mae Jackson born London England 28 May 1875 Died Detroit Michigan USA-15 May 1947 she as child immigrated to Canada in 1887 with parents James and Pauline Jackson and a sister Alice Maude Jackson Alice was born 12 Apr 1880 Long England. again they immigrated to Canada living in Credition Ontario Stephans township prior to moving unknown date to USA Detroit Michigan Ethel Mae Married my Grandfather Adam Finkbeiner in Crediton Ontario 1896 - My main research right now is James and Pauline their birthdates and their ancestry any help appreciated. Thanks I can be reached directly at geofire37@earthlink.net George A. Finkbeiner

Reposting my surname interests, I would be very pleased to hear from anyone researching the following names: England: LEA Staffordshire WAIGHT " (also Middlesex) SUMMERFIELD/SOMERFORD " - Willenhall BULL Shropshire - Claverley LEE/LEIGH Lancashire - Wigan (Scoles) Also researching in Scotland: LEE Lanarkshire - Blantyre LYON " " LIDDELL " " THOMSON Dunbartonshire - Alexandria/Bonhill CAMERON Ayrshire - Symington Mary LEA Lithgow, N.S.W. Australia

Hello, I know this isn't the list for this question,but I was wondering if someone could help me, my ggggrandfather came out to Australia around 1851 or whereabouts,but I can't find the shipping records and whoever I talk to within the family who have done some research haven't been able to find it either, we know he went under a different name for a few years after he came to Australia, so someone mentioned that he might of been in the India war, and then he came out here under this other name, as I don't know anything about the India war, would anyone know where I could look to find out more about it. Leona

Looking for THOMAS and ELIZABETH LORD living manchester late 1800's. Thomas was an 'iron driller'. Something to do with machinery - -"Vickers Armstrong" and "Whitworth Engineering. Chiln were: Elizabeth, John, Jane, Edwin, Thomas, Nancy. TIA Best Wishes Narelle Friar-Ryan Jugiong NSW Australia **** Forbes, Huxley, FRIAR, Summerell, Lord**** narelleryan@froggy.com.au

Hi again, Still after any information on surname Witherup/ Witherop/Withrup/Wotheruppe. It seems to originate from the Durham area and it is a rare surname. Any info gratefully recieved. Lesley

Can aynone help me with 1851 census for Bentham, 3 lane foot HO107/2277fo.99, maybe 98, for Joseph Johnson born 11 apr 1852(?) Appreciate what canbe done, Bill

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Colin..... I dont supppose you have any LODGE's in your WHEATLEY line do you? The name WHEATLEY has cropped as the middle name a few times of a family line I am researching, I have 'presumed' that maybe it came from the Surname of one of the lines that joined the family. The line it comes from appear the be from around the Yorkshire/Cornwall/Penzance areas. Francis Wheatley LODGE was a Captain in Penzance aparently. Cheers ! Cindy Prosser Cindy-Leigh PROSSER (nee: CRUICKSHANK) Western Australia nine@activnet.org http://activnet.org/genealogy/ Researching: 1. George CROSS (England, NSW, Vic or anywhere) (1800-1950) 1. Charlotte REEVE (UK, NSW, Vic or anywhere) (1800-1950) 2. William CROSS (England, NSW, Vic, WA) (1830-1930) 2. Jane Eliza GODSO (England, Vic, WA) (1850-1950) 3. Francis Wilkins LODGE (England, Cornwall, Penzance, Yorkshire, Kilkenny, Ireland, NSW, Vic, WA) (1800-1920) 3. Ann BURCH (NSW, Vic, WA, England,Ireland) (1800-1950) 4. George Henry LODGE (Cornwall, Kilkenny, NSW, Vic, WA) (1880-1955) 4. Jane Elizabeth CROSS (Vic, WA) (1875-1915) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Yarwood" <colin.yarwood@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 4:05 PM Subject: [ENG-SURNAMES] Reposting interests ENG. & IRELAND > If any KS has information to offer on the following I would be very glad to > hear from them: > > Colin Yarwood > > researching : > - YARWOOD of Birmingham, the English Midlands, Cheshire, USA & Australia > - MERCER of Bowland, Yorks, Chipping and Preston, Lancs > - PENTLAND of Tullylish, Lurgan and Shankhill in Down and Armagh, Bradford > Yorkshire, Wolverhampton and Birmingham > - COLLINS (RC) of Birmingham, Derby & Sutton Coldfield > - WHEATLEY and CROWTHER of Harewood, Appleton Roebuck and Bradford Yorkshire > - DELANDRE of France, Ireland and Bradford Yorkshire > > - Birmingham Bus and tram drivers up to 1960 > - The Digbeth Mission, Birmingham c1900 > - Cotton College, Staffs/Derby before 1900 > - The 48th Regiment of Foot and Royal Artillery 1802-1832 > - Erasmus Smith Schools Shankhill / Lurgan c 1865 > - "Mile House" Educational Establishment - Printing(?) Ireland c1868 > > > > ==== ENG-SURNAMES Mailing List ==== > Legacy Family Tree is now FREE! Download this highly acclaimed > full-featured genealogy program today at > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Index.asp?mid=13SAUhO > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

If any KS has information to offer on the following I would be very glad to hear from them: Colin Yarwood researching : - YARWOOD of Birmingham, the English Midlands, Cheshire, USA & Australia - MERCER of Bowland, Yorks, Chipping and Preston, Lancs - PENTLAND of Tullylish, Lurgan and Shankhill in Down and Armagh, Bradford Yorkshire, Wolverhampton and Birmingham - COLLINS (RC) of Birmingham, Derby & Sutton Coldfield - WHEATLEY and CROWTHER of Harewood, Appleton Roebuck and Bradford Yorkshire - DELANDRE of France, Ireland and Bradford Yorkshire - Birmingham Bus and tram drivers up to 1960 - The Digbeth Mission, Birmingham c1900 - Cotton College, Staffs/Derby before 1900 - The 48th Regiment of Foot and Royal Artillery 1802-1832 - Erasmus Smith Schools Shankhill / Lurgan c 1865 - "Mile House" Educational Establishment - Printing(?) Ireland c1868

If any KS has information to offer on the following I would be very glad to hear from them: Colin Yarwood researching : - YARWOOD of Birmingham, the English Midlands, Cheshire, USA & Australia - MERCER of Bowland, Yorks, Chipping and Preston, Lancs - PENTLAND of Tullylish, Lurgan and Shankhill in Down and Armagh, Bradford Yorkshire, Wolverhampton and Birmingham - COLLINS (RC) of Birmingham, Derby & Sutton Coldfield - WHEATLEY and CROWTHER of Harewood, Appleton Roebuck and Bradford Yorkshire - DELANDRE of France, Ireland and Bradford Yorkshire - Birmingham Bus and tram drivers up to 1960 - The Digbeth Mission, Birmingham c1900 - Cotton College, Staffs/Derby before 1900 - The 48th Regiment of Foot and Royal Artillery 1802-1832 - Erasmus Smith Schools Shankhill / Lurgan c 1865 - "Mile House" Educational Establishment - Printing(?) Ireland c1868