Hello Jack, Thank you for sending that. As yet I can't tell if it is the same family, but the age is right. In 1881 the family were living in Penkhull Terrace but Joseph is not there. His wife, Betsy is Head. On the 1891 census Joseph is there but is a milk seller. It is very likely he could have changed jobs. I suppose I will have to try and track them through other census. I am very grateful to you for looking this up. Jeanne _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile