Hi Earl,thanks so much for answereing and giving me the info.My connection is through Samuel Clay,Thomas and Prudence's grandson.His father was William .Samuels partner was Elizabeth Gibbs born in Leicester,so far I have been unable to trace their marriage,having tried BMD sites.LDS,1837 ,geneologists and every site I can think of.I presume they were married as I was told that they were very strict with their childrens morals,I know this might not be the case, its just the impression I have of them.They moved up to Lancashire in the 1850's and had their family in these parts,their daughter Elizabeth was my grandmother who died before I was born.I have got my grandfathers tree back to the early 1600's which is extensive and I thought I would follow the Clays.If you could be kind enough to let me have Prudences birth date and death I would be so pleased,I already have baptism dates of her siblings.I like to get all the extended families on to my tree as well and it would be re! ally great to have snippets of their lives included.Thanks so much for bearing with me.Cheers Jess EarlJDavis@aol.com wrote: Hi Jess. I don't do much on the family tree these days but my x6 great aunt was Prudence RATCLIFFE, the daughter of James Ratcliffe and Mary. Her sister was called Lydia Ratcliffe who is my x5 Great Grandmother. Lydia married Robert Barlow in 1788 at newcastle but they lived at Alton. Sister Purdence married Thomas clay at Alton in 1787. I suspect james Ratcliffe is the son of James ratcliffe and Elizabeth (also Ratcliffe) who married at Checkley in 1717. Thomas CLAY and Prudence RATCLIFFE had quite a large family, some of their daughters married into the TURNER and CARR families. Earl In a message dated 20/08/2005 18:11:17 GMT Standard Time, jessbrewer2003@yahoo.co.uk writes: Hi listers,I am currently lokking for info on the Clay/Nash /Ratcliffe .and Gibbs families..I have traced the backbone of the Clay family back to Alton in 1721,which was William Clay married to Martha Brown.The Ratcliffes all seem to have been living in Rocester.I would love to find info about these families if anyone else is researching the same names.Thanks in advance for reading this and any info sent.Jess ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos