Dear Barbara I have a photo of York St from the Internet, if you are interested. I think my Hallams were on the other side of the road. I think they were at what wld have become number 37, but it was gone by 1881. I have conflicting information on the subject. Maybe all the houses were on 1 side of the road. The photo only shows 1 side, but there was a pavement on the other side. A couple of notes on York St (later Ebor St): From Under The Road - "The area between Lockett's Lane and Ebor St remained undeveloped throughout the nineteenth century, apart from a row of terraced houses on the west side of Ebor St." In this undeveloped area, was a late 18th c & 19th c shardruck.. Also, late 17th c tobacco bowls found there. From George Hallam's deeds: "All that piece of Ground containing by estimation One hundred and seventy one square yards or thereabouts formerly marked or staked out from a piece of Ground of one Benjamin Jaquiss situate and being at a place called Meir Heath near Longton heretofore called Lane End aforesaid and within the Manor of Longton in the parish of Stoke upon Trent in the County of Stafford and which said plot of land is more particularly delineated or described in a sketch or plan thereof endorsed on an Indenture dated the twenty seventh day of April One thousand eight hundred and twenty five And also that Messuage dwelling house or tenement standing on part of the said plot of Land formerly in the occupation of Richard Hallam afterwards of Thomas Wallbank then of Hannah Austin and now of James Burrows And also all that other Messuage or Dwelling house erected by the said Mortgagor upon other part of the said plot of Land as the same was formerly in the occupation of Thomas Wallbank and now or lately of William Shaw And also all that plot of land situate and being on the South East side of a certain Street called York Street in Longton aforesaid leading out of the road formerly called Furnace Road but now called Normacott Road containing by admeasurement forty four square yards or thereabouts being Eleven yards or thereabouts in depth from York Street aforesaid and bounded on the North West by the said Street on the South East by land formerly belonging to John Lockett and the Devisees of Thomas Lockett deceased on the South West by the before described plot of Land and on the North East by hereditaments formerly of Edwin Walker but now of Messieurs Marfleet Winkle and Roberts except and subject to such exceptions and reservations as are mentioned in the Conveyance of the said premises to the Mortgagor" BTW I'd forgotten that I bought copies of York St 1851 from SRO - George Lucas's place of birth has a 'd' in it, maybe 4th letter. Look at how Staffordshire and treader are written, and you will see what I mean. I think it ends with 'h'. All the best Eileen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara J Gray" <barbara@jgray.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [Pots] Help with 'where born' > Dear Eileen > Thank you for this, I didn't have the 1841 entry. I have several families > living in York Street at different times, perhaps they were your relatives > tenants! > Regards > Barbara > > Researching > Jervis, Lucas, Cotton and Dimmocks in the Fenton Longton/Lane End areas > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eileen.Hallam" <eileen.hallam@tesco.net> > To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:41 AM > Subject: Fw: [Pots] Help with 'where born' > > >> > Hi Barbara >> > >> > I can't help with the deciphering at the moment, but there were Lucases > on >> > York St in 1861 & 1841 as well. I've done some work in the past on >> > York >> > St, as my Hallams owned land there, and I have the name Lucas there for >> > 1841, 1851 & 61. >> > >> > In case you don't have 1841, this is the full entry: >> > 1841 HO107 991/8/35 >> > >> > York Street >> > >> > Hannah MORETON.60............no >> > >> > George LUCAS...34.potter.....y >> > >> > Ann............32.potter.....y >> > >> > Jane...........11.potter ap..y >> > >> > Eliza...........7............y >> > >> > Hannah..........5............y >> > >> > George..........2............y >> > >> > Aaron..........16.potter ap..y >> > >> > >> > Sorry, this is the only year where I have the actual details. >> > >> > Best regards >> > >> > Eileen >> > > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire >

Dear Eileen Sorry for the delay in replying, lifes been a little busy lately! Thanks for the help with Georges place of birth. I would love to have a photo of York Street as members of the various families I am researching seemed to live there at some time or other. In the 1851 census Georges daughter Ann Jane is living next door with her husband William Jervis and family (these are my grandfathers parents). Williams father Meschach was in York Street when he died in 1844. Although the Jervis family moved to Spring Road, 2 of their daughters, Elizabeth and Eliza both moved back after their marriages. In addition several members of my grandmothers family were also in York Street at various times - my lot never moved very far! Regards Barbara Researching, Jervis, Lucas, Cotton and Dimmocks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eileen.Hallam" <eileen.hallam@tesco.net> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [Pots] Help with 'where born' > Dear Barbara > > I have a photo of York St from the Internet, if you are interested. I think > my Hallams were on the other side of the road. I think they were at what > wld have become number 37, but it was gone by 1881. I have conflicting > information on the subject. Maybe all the houses were on 1 side of the > road. The photo only shows 1 side, but there was a pavement on the other > side. > > A couple of notes on York St (later Ebor St): > From Under The Road - "The area between Lockett's Lane and Ebor St remained > undeveloped throughout the nineteenth century, apart from a row of terraced > houses on the west side of Ebor St." In this undeveloped area, was a late > 18th c & 19th c shardruck.. Also, late 17th c tobacco bowls found there. > > From George Hallam's deeds: > > "All that piece of Ground containing by estimation One hundred and seventy > one square yards or thereabouts formerly marked or staked out from a piece > of Ground of one Benjamin Jaquiss situate and being at a place called Meir > Heath near Longton heretofore called Lane End aforesaid and within the Manor > of Longton in the parish of Stoke upon Trent in the County of Stafford and > which said plot of land is more particularly delineated or described in a > sketch or plan thereof endorsed on an Indenture dated the twenty seventh day > of April One thousand eight hundred and twenty five And also that Messuage > dwelling house or tenement standing on part of the said plot of Land > formerly in the occupation of Richard Hallam afterwards of Thomas Wallbank > then of Hannah Austin and now of James Burrows And also all that other > Messuage or Dwelling house erected by the said Mortgagor upon other part of > the said plot of Land as the same was formerly in the occupation of Thomas > Wallbank and now or lately of William Shaw > > And also all that plot of land situate and being on the South East side of a > certain Street called York Street in Longton aforesaid leading out of the > road formerly called Furnace Road but now called Normacott Road containing > by admeasurement forty four square yards or thereabouts being Eleven yards > or thereabouts in depth from York Street aforesaid and bounded on the North > West by the said Street on the South East by land formerly belonging to John > Lockett and the Devisees of Thomas Lockett deceased on the South West by the > before described plot of Land and on the North East by hereditaments > formerly of Edwin Walker but now of Messieurs Marfleet Winkle and Roberts > except and subject to such exceptions and reservations as are mentioned in > the Conveyance of the said premises to the Mortgagor" > > BTW I'd forgotten that I bought copies of York St 1851 from SRO - George > Lucas's place of birth has a 'd' in it, maybe 4th letter. Look at how > Staffordshire and treader are written, and you will see what I mean. I > think it ends with 'h'. > > > All the best > > Eileen > >