Keith, Once again, thank you so much. I had not gotten as far as the Marriage Indexes yet, but these look very very good. I followed the Biddulph sisters and found them in the 1871 census and sure enough the mother is Mary and the father was William Biddulph.....I also found a reference in the Civil registration of Ashton Under Lyme 1859 marriage of Mary Beech and William Biddulph....I think that clears up who she was. I also followed them back to the 1861 and found Mary and William Biddulph....no children yet. I think I had the marriages mixed up...thinking he married the Sarah first, then the Biddulph....when it appears it was the other way round. His first wife Emma dies 1873......he must marry Mary(Beech) Biddulph(widow) in 1874 ( didn't look for her death yet), but he obviously marries Sarah in 1878.....I can't figure out if one of these names is Sarah's maiden name or both are married names.... I took the daughter Jane Pitwell and tried a census search...I found Jane Pitwell age 6 (which would fit the 16 year old Jane of 1881)....anyway would you believe that young Jane is listed as granddaughter......the family is Edward and Jane Hawkins of Buckinghamshire....the grandparents are 72 and 71...this could indicate that Hawkins was Sarah's maiden name......oh the complications. Once again, thank you so much for your assistance.....it has definitely helped me prove that this is the family I am looking for. Sincerely, Ruth, Pittsburgh PA USA ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Hackney<mailto:keith.hackney@xtra.co.nz> To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 1:27 AM Subject: Re: [Pots] Brindley Ford and Biddulph - Onions Surname Hi Ruth, The StaffsBMD site also has the following marriages: It looks like Mary Biddulph was formerly Mary Beech, or vice versa: Staffordshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1874 SurnameForename(s)SurnameForename(s)Church / Register OfficeRegisters AtReference ONIONS *Edwin/BEECHMary/Biddulph, St LawrenceStaffordshire Moorlands4C/2/400 ONIONS *Edwin/BIDDULPHMary/Biddulph, St LawrenceStaffordshire Moorlands4C/2/400 Staffordshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1863 SurnameForename(s)SurnameForename(s)Church / Register OfficeRegisters AtReference BIDDULPHJoseph/BROWNMary/Stoke, St PeterStoke-On-Trent31/14/217 A Joseph Biddulph died in 1876 at Audley, so maybe he and Mary were "separated" as this was 2 years after Mary married. Assuming they are the same people! There were also: Sarah Allsop m Joseph Pitwell, Newcastle St James, 1875 Sarah Pitwell m Thos H Burton Christchurch, Tunstall, 1880 These may or may not be connected. Also, Staffordshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1878 SurnameForename(s)SurnameForename(s)Church / Register OfficeRegisters AtReference ONIONS *Edwin/KEAYSarah/Newchapel, St JamesNewcastle-Under-LymeC24/1/408 ONIONS *Edwin/HAWKINSSarah/Newchapel, St JamesNewcastle-Under-LymeC24/1/408 This could be his 1881 census wife! All conjecture, food for thought! Best wishes, Keith ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire