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    1. Re: Potters in new jersey
    2. Hugh Watkins

    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: ian.hopkins Sent: 03 December 2002 14:04 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Potters in new jersey Hi Hugh, Good to see you back on the list.I hope you kept busy on your break!!!!!!! You mentioned the Irish and Roman Catholic lists being in a Cathedral in Birmingham.Do you have an address or a website for information??? 4 of my G.G.Grandparents were Irish,and Roman Catholic I think. I'm really struggling to get anything on them so any help would be most appreciated. << STS was a bit too busy and too much Black Country along with GLS MON Bristol_and_Somerset to keep up with and usenet so I have been lurking in Potters all along some of these Irish were illiterate so expect the spelling of surnames to vary - especially the vowels. Grannon Grannnen for example amd birthplace "Ireland" is not a big help. Mine Descendants of John Riley Hanley folk 1 John Riley possibly a groom from Ireland who came down the Holyhead Road with some horses ........ 2 Mitchell (Michael) Riley 1855 - a carter ............ +Harriet Ann Kent 1857 - father Gerorge Kent mother Ann Hanley or Etruria ................... 3 Annie Riley 1877 - ................... 3 Thomas Riley 1880 - ................... 3 William Riley 1882 - ................... 3 John Riley 1884 - ................... 3 George Riley 1889 - ................... 3 Henry Riley 1889 - 1901 ................... 3 Samuel Ernest Riley 1896 - 1967 ....................... +Mary Grannon 1902 - 1952 .............................. 4 Samuel Riley 1920 - 1992 snip Descendants of Bryan Grannon 1 Bryan Grannon ........ 2 John Grannon 1854 - Ireland Roscom: Bricklayers labourer then collier ............ +Maria Duffy 1856 - Ireland Roscom: father Micael Duffy Potters Sponger married St Mary & St Patrick's Church **** Hanley Stoke T 6b 311 ................... 3 Kate Grannon 1878 - ................... 3 Bernard Grannon 1879 - ................... 3 Eliza Grannon 1880 - ................... 3 John Grannon 1885 - ................... 3 Michael Grannon 1887 - ................... 3 Peter Grannon 1891 - ................... 3 Mary Grannon 1902 - 1952 ....................... +Samuel Ernest Riley 1896 - 1967 .............................. 4 Samuel Riley 1920 - 1992 .............................. 4 George Patrick Riley 1925 - 1982 snip - .............................. 4 Karen Riley .............................. 4 Lorraine Riley The RC church was a mission church until 1918 married by Father William Malloy Rites andCeromonies of the Roman Catholics X the Mark of John Grannon X the Mark of Maria Duffy witnesses:- John Currigan Catherine Morgan Dwelling: Eastwood Pl. The Presbyty Census Place: (Stoke Upon Trent) Shelton, Stafford, England Source: FHL Film 1341652 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2722 Folio 122 Page 42 Marr Age Sex Birthplace W. (Rev) MOLLOY U 63 M Ireland Rel: Head Occ: Roman Cath. Priest Lucy GALLIMORE U 39 F Hanley, Stafford, England Rel: Serv Occ: Housekeeper (Dom) Father (Rev) ROWES U 29 M Ireland Rel: Boarder Occ: Curate Rom. Cath. Priest Polly KEIMS U 22 F Ireland Rel: Serv. Occ: Dom. Serv. ?? Dwelling: 26 N Castle St Census Place: Stoke Upon Trent, Stafford, England Source: FHL Film 1341654 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2728 Folio 102 Page 34 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Patrick GRANNEN M 36 M Rosscommon, Ireland Rel: Head Occ: Agri Laborer 7 Toll Street, Hanley http://home.att.net/~Local_Catholic/Catholic-England-Wales.htm Archdiocese of Birmingham [est. 1850] Diocesan offices: Cathedral House, St Chad's Queensway, Birmingham B4 6EX. Phone: 0121-236-5535 - Fax 0121-233-9266. The Archdiocese of Birmingham encompasses the Counties of Warwickshire, Oxfordshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands and Worcestershire. History of the Diocese of Birmingham, by John Caswell, from The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume II, 1907, by Robert Appleton Company, Online Edition, by Kevin Knight, 1999.- Prior to September 1850, the counties of Oxford, Stafford, Warwick, and Worcester were included, first in the Midland, then in the Central, District or Vicariate, which had been governed by Vicars-Apostolic since 1688... http://birminghamdiocese.org.uk/ http://www.birminghamdiocese.org.uk/archives/archives.htm BIRMINGHAM ARCHDIOCESAN ARCHIVES Cathedral House, St Chad’s Queensway, Birmingham, B4 6EU Telephone: 0121 230 6252 E-Mail: [email protected] Archivist: The Rev. Dr John Sharp The Birmingham Archdiocesan Archives contains the historical documents of the Midland District (1688-1840), Central District (1840-1850), Diocese of Birmingham (1850-1911), Archdiocese of Birmingham (1911-). It is also the repository of the parishes of the archdiocese and contains many parish registers. The archives are normally open to members of the public on three days of the week (Wednesday-Friday) from 11 am until 6 pm. No charge is made. It is necessary to make an appointment by letter, telephone or e-mail before visiting; casual visitors are not admitted. ID (including address) must be produced on a first visit. The archivist cannot undertake research. very helpful Registers written in latin including christian names BIRMINGHAM ARCHDIOCESAN ARCHIVES I forgot the ARCH- so difficult to Google Hugh WGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

    12/03/2002 09:33:44
    1. Re: Potters in new jersey
    2. ian.hopkins

    3. Hugh, Many thanks for the information.I'll have a proper look when the kids are in bed. I'm now in Bristol so if you need any help with places I'll do my best. All the Best, Helen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Watkins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 4:33 PM Subject: Re: Potters in new jersey > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ian.hopkins > Sent: 03 December 2002 14:04 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Potters in new jersey > > Hi Hugh, > > Good to see you back on the list.I hope you kept busy on your break!!!!!!! > > You mentioned the Irish and Roman Catholic lists being in a Cathedral in > Birmingham.Do you have an address or a website for information??? 4 of my > G.G.Grandparents were Irish,and Roman Catholic I think. > I'm really struggling to get anything on them so any help would be most > appreciated. > > > << STS was a bit too busy and too much Black Country > > along with GLS MON Bristol_and_Somerset to keep up with and usenet > so I have been lurking in Potters all along > some of these Irish were illiterate so expect the spelling of surnames to vary - especially the vowels. Grannon Grannnen for example amd birthplace "Ireland" is not a big help. > Mine > > Descendants of John Riley > Hanley folk > 1 John Riley possibly a groom from Ireland who came down the Holyhead Road with some horses > ........ 2 Mitchell (Michael) Riley 1855 - a carter > ............ +Harriet Ann Kent 1857 - father Gerorge Kent mother Ann Hanley or Etruria > ................... 3 Annie Riley 1877 - > ................... 3 Thomas Riley 1880 - > ................... 3 William Riley 1882 - > ................... 3 John Riley 1884 - > ................... 3 George Riley 1889 - > ................... 3 Henry Riley 1889 - 1901 > ................... 3 Samuel Ernest Riley 1896 - 1967 > ....................... +Mary Grannon 1902 - 1952 > .............................. 4 Samuel Riley 1920 - 1992 > snip > Descendants of Bryan Grannon > 1 Bryan Grannon > ........ 2 John Grannon 1854 - Ireland Roscom: > Bricklayers labourer then collier > ............ +Maria Duffy 1856 - Ireland Roscom: father Micael Duffy > Potters Sponger > married St Mary & St Patrick's Church **** Hanley Stoke T 6b 311 > ................... 3 Kate Grannon 1878 - > ................... 3 Bernard Grannon 1879 - > ................... 3 Eliza Grannon 1880 - > ................... 3 John Grannon 1885 - > ................... 3 Michael Grannon 1887 - > ................... 3 Peter Grannon 1891 - > ................... 3 Mary Grannon 1902 - 1952 > ....................... +Samuel Ernest Riley 1896 - 1967 > .............................. 4 Samuel Riley 1920 - 1992 > > .............................. 4 George Patrick Riley 1925 - 1982 > snip - > .............................. 4 Karen Riley > .............................. 4 Lorraine Riley > > The RC church was a mission church until 1918 > > married by > Father William Malloy > Rites andCeromonies of the Roman Catholics > X the Mark of John Grannon > X the Mark of Maria Duffy > witnesses:- > John Currigan > Catherine Morgan > Dwelling: Eastwood Pl. The Presbyty > Census Place: (Stoke Upon Trent) Shelton, Stafford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341652 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2722 Folio 122 Page 42 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > W. (Rev) MOLLOY U 63 M Ireland > Rel: Head > Occ: Roman Cath. Priest > Lucy GALLIMORE U 39 F Hanley, Stafford, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Housekeeper (Dom) > Father (Rev) ROWES U 29 M Ireland > Rel: Boarder > Occ: Curate Rom. Cath. Priest > Polly KEIMS U 22 F Ireland > Rel: Serv. > Occ: Dom. Serv. > ?? > Dwelling: 26 N Castle St > Census Place: Stoke Upon Trent, Stafford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341654 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2728 Folio 102 Page 34 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Patrick GRANNEN M 36 M Rosscommon, Ireland > Rel: Head > Occ: Agri Laborer > > 7 Toll Street, Hanley > > http://home.att.net/~Local_Catholic/Catholic-England-Wales.htm > Archdiocese of Birmingham [est. 1850] > Diocesan offices: Cathedral House, St Chad's Queensway, Birmingham B4 6EX. > Phone: 0121-236-5535 - Fax 0121-233-9266. > The Archdiocese of Birmingham encompasses the Counties of Warwickshire, Oxfordshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands and Worcestershire. > History of the Diocese of Birmingham, by John Caswell, from The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume II, 1907, by Robert Appleton Company, Online Edition, by Kevin Knight, 1999.- > Prior to September 1850, the counties of Oxford, Stafford, Warwick, and Worcester were included, first in the Midland, then in the Central, District or Vicariate, which had been governed by Vicars-Apostolic since 1688... > http://birminghamdiocese.org.uk/ > http://www.birminghamdiocese.org.uk/archives/archives.htm > > BIRMINGHAM ARCHDIOCESAN ARCHIVES > > Cathedral House, St Chad’s Queensway, Birmingham, B4 6EU > Telephone: 0121 230 6252 > E-Mail: [email protected] > > Archivist: The Rev. Dr John Sharp > > The Birmingham Archdiocesan Archives contains the historical documents of the Midland District (1688-1840), Central District (1840-1850), Diocese of Birmingham (1850-1911), Archdiocese of Birmingham (1911-). It is also the repository of the parishes of the archdiocese and contains many parish registers. > > The archives are normally open to members of the public on three days of the week (Wednesday-Friday) from 11 am until 6 pm. No charge is made. It is necessary to make an appointment by letter, telephone or e-mail before visiting; casual visitors are not admitted. ID (including address) must be produced on a first visit. > > The archivist cannot undertake research. > > very helpful > > Registers written in latin including christian names > > BIRMINGHAM ARCHDIOCESAN ARCHIVES > > I forgot the ARCH- so difficult to Google > > Hugh WGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire >

    12/03/2002 12:35:31