Sent with permission of the Listowner : Archive CD Books News 27 April 2002 In this issue: * Latest CD releases this week * Win some old books! * A new web page version of Archive CD Books News and a new member of the team. * Some "seconds" for sale cheap * Book Binding and Renovation _________________________________________________________________ _ LATEST CD RELEASES THIS WEEK All latest releases can be seen at http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/books/new/ (That page is updated very regularly, often several times each day). 17 new releases this week, bringing us up to a total of 691 CDs currently in production. * Musgrave's Obituary - 6 Volumes An alphabetical list of peoples names, their date of death and reference to the source of the information. All are earlier than 1800, some right back into the 1400s. see All England Obituaries page * The Visitations of London 1633,1634 & 1635 Volumes 1 & 2 In many cases the pedigrees date back to Norman times (the 11th century). An extremely important source of information for family historians. Others below are in the same series, for different counties) * The Visitations of Bedfordshire 1566, 1582 and 1634 * The Visitation of Huntingdonshire 1613 * The Visitations of Hertfordshire 1572 and 1634 * The Visitations of Essex 1552, 1558, 1570, 1612 & 1634 * The Visitation of Rutland 1681-2 * The Visitation of Warwickshire 1682-83 * The Visitation of Suffolk 1664-1668 * The Visitation of Shropshire 1623, parts 1 & 2 * The Visitations of Sussex 1530 & 1633-4 * The Visitation of Surrey 1662-8 * History of Northumberland - 1811 Volume 2. A superb history and description of a large part of Northumberland. * Irish Landed Gentry - When Cromwell Came to Ireland genealogies and pedigrees dating, in some cases back to the 11th and 12th centuries. * Murray's Handbook - India, Burma & Ceylon 1926 A wonderful guide book see India page * Murray's Handbook- India, Burma and Ceylon 1933 The fourteenth edition of this lovely guide book. see India page * Records of Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire in the 11th to 13th Centuries. This is a volume of transcriptions and abstracts from rare and ancient documents relating to families and their pedigrees and holdings of land, (they are somewhat like the entries in the Domesday book, but in much more detail). see Derbyshire or Nottinghamshire History page All latest releases can be seen at http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/books/new/ _________________________________________________________________ __ WIN SOME OLD BOOKS ! >From time to time, I buy some odd books or documents which are interesting, but which are either still in copyright, or not suitable for putting onto a CD. So, we shall give these actual books away to supporters of the Archive CD Books Project. This time around, we have three to offer, and they will be won by a person who buys CDs relating to certain counties. For details see below. 1. Hutchinson's Pocket Guide to Kent, Surrey & Sussex Published in 1939 - 160 pages including old photos and a lovely fold out map. All those why by one CD that includes any of those three counties, will be entered into the draw to receive this book. 2. Hutchinson's Pocket Guide to Norfolk, Suffolk, Essex and Cambridge Published in 1939 - 159 pages including old photos and an excellent fold out map. All those why by one CD that includes any of those three counties, will be entered into the draw to receive this book. 3. Norfolk - a very large vellum Conveyance of 1866. Wow! A conveyance of land fronting Cathedral Street and the Horsefair. R. J. H. Harvey to Mr. Wm. J. Rayson, stonemason. Two huge vellum sheets, (30" x 24") all hand written and with wax seals. All those who by *two* or more CDs (on the same order) that includes at least one for Norfolk, will be entered in the draw to receive this wonderful old document. STARTING DATE: orders received from 25 April 14.30 BST CLOSING DATE : Wednesday 1st May at 12pm (midnight) BST _________________________________________________________________ ___ We shall soon be having a web page version of the Archive CD Books News too. (That is in addition to this weekly news mailing, but which will be linked from that). The idea is to be able to present much more information, photographs, reviews, articles, genealogy hints and tips using the books as research tools, success stories, and so on. I am very pleased indeed to announce that Guy Etchells will be joining the Archive CD Books team next month in order to edit the Archive CD Books News and its new "glossy" web page version. Guy is a family historian with several decades experience, and who also has a deep love of these old books as reference sources. He really knows his stuff. He has been an avid supporter of the Archive CD Books Project from day one, and has also lent a considerable number of books from his personal collection to the project. So.... get writing short articles that you think would be of interest to readers of the Archive CD Books News. (Photos may be included). Guy will be especially interested in reviews, and success stories, ingenious uses of the CD books, etc. Submissions and articles should be in plain text format... directly typed in an email is ideal, and sent to: guy.etchells@virgin.net _________________________________________________________________ _ SOME "SECONDS" FOR SALE CHEAP Occasionally we do get some "seconds" in the CD production. Their data content is fine and is just the same, but the surface print of the CD may have an error, or where the print ink is running out for example. Rather than throw them away, from time to time we shall offer them for sale. No jewel cases, just supplied in a clear flimsy plastic CD envelope. Limited quantities of each only. Usually no more than three or four of each available. Once stocks have each have been sold then there are no more, so you need to get in there and order fast. (Please note that the shopping cart may give the impression that there are some of these remaining in stock, when there are none left.) NO FURTHER DISCOUNTS OR LINKS WITH ANY OTHER PROMOTION APPLY - OFFER ONLY WHILE STOCKS LAST "Seconds" are offered for sale at just GBP 3.00 each. To see what is available now, go directly to: http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/acatalog/Archive_CD_Books_Seconds_147.h tml _________________________________________________________________ __ Book binding and Renovation. The two latest invoices from the book binders: 1. For the restoration of books which we have purchased, and will be giving away to record offices, libraries and museums: GBP 1,275.86 (that's just the restoration cost, not the cost of the books!).... 2. For the restoration of 12 books belonging to the Family Record Centre (The PRO) in London: GBP 1,197.95. A total of GBP 2,473.81. The people buying the CDs pay for the cost of books from book dealers, and enable them to be *given away* after they have been scanned. To see the sort of problems that books have, and what can be done to restore them, see the Book Restoration pages at: http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/books/restoring/index.htm "The Archive CD Books Project exists to make reproductions of old books, documents and maps available on CD to genealogists and historians, and to co-operate with libraries, museums and record offices in providing money to renovate old books in their collection, and to donate books to their collections, where they will be preserved for future generations." That mission statement has not changed since day one. (Two years ago). The project works! It is those who support the project by buying CDs who pay for the whole thing to happen. Best regards Rod -- ARCHIVE CD BOOKS - A project to reproduce old books on CD for genealogists and pay for the restoration of books in Record Offices, Libraries, etc. Mailing list : CDBOOKS-L@rootsweb.com (for discussions) Weekly News : CDBOOKS-NEWS-L@rootsweb.com (weekly announcements & news) E-mail : enquiries@archivecdbooks.org Web : http://www.archivecdbooks.org ==== CDBOOKS-NEWS Mailing List ==== Always keep an eye open for new CD releases on the "Latest Releases" page on the web site The Archive CD Books web pages are at http://www.archivecdbooks.org

Friends There are two versions of a virus circulating at present - which activate when the mail is opened- Those of you who use Microsoft Outlook Express for mail - I suggest you take it off preview mail . Preview actually opens the message. Go to Tools menu and remove tick from Preview Mail. If your Anti Virus program has the latest definitions it will have picked the infected message on download- this we why we emphasise that you update your Virus program at least once a week if not more frequently. More information can be obtained at this site - http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/index.html or at the site of your Software Manufacturer. If you have doubts about a message even if your Virus Program has not alerted you - delete the message if its important they will resend - do NOT hit reply and ask them what the message is about!!! If you have concerns I can be contacted on the below address- but remember no virus discussion on list! Best Wishes Helen Helen Verrall Temporary List Administrator- STAFFORDSHIRE ENG-STS-POTTERIES ENG-PUBS-INNS ENG-DESERTED-VILLAGES Email:hverrall@ihug.co.nz

In a message dated 24/04/02 08:18:49 GMT Daylight Time, lyanek@xtra.co.nz writes: > Also looking for a possible connection with the RAVEN family of Church > Coniston, Lancashire I think there is a connection with the Mason and Raven families because there is a Raven Mason China collection at Keele University (details on their web site) given by two gentlemen with the names of Mason Raven. I have a little booklet about Miles Mason and Mason's Ironstone it would appear that Miles Masons third son married Sarah Spode granddaughter of Josiah Spode - if you want copies or further information I would be happy to help. Rosie Longton, Stoke-on-Trent

Would like to hear from anyone else out there researching the family of Miles MASON (born 1752 Dent, Yorkshire - died 1822 Newcastle-under-Lyme). Also looking for a possible connection with the RAVEN family of Church Coniston, Lancashire. Lyane Kendall Waitakere, New Zealand

Hello Leslie Sadly, no. I only have Ann and Hannah around that date and age. Ann married Robert Blakeman in 1834. Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie Prpich" <lprpich@uvic.ca> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:59 PM Subject: RE: Registering interests > Hi Judith, > > Do you have among your FERNYHOUGHs a Dorothy who was of marrying age in > 1832? The one I am looking for married Thomas HEATH at Keele in 1832 but > their children were all christened at Burslem. > > Thanks, Leslie > > Leslie Prpich > Volunteer Transcriber for the 1891 FreeCEN Project (North Staffordshire) > > > >

Hi Group, Am seeking to connect with any one who would have any information on Elijah Cotton and Martha Wharton Cotton, his wife. He owned the Elijah Cotton pottery which seem to go through several incarnations. It became Elijah Cotton /Lord Nelson pottery(or some such) and eventually shut it's doors in the 1960's I believe. I would be interested to know if there are any living descendants of this union. Martha was from my Wharton line. I do know that they had a daughter, Lilie who died young and is buried in Burselm, I believe. There were two other names associated with the Cotton's. Arthur and Teddy Cotton. They may have been the son's or grandsons of Elijah and Martha. I have a wonderful old photo of a group of a huge group of folks sitting in front of the Hotel Rudyard. I don't think it was a family gathering but must have been a workers picnic or gathering of some sort. Could be wrong but if I am, then it was one huge family. I believe that Elijah's mothers surname was Slater and that he was born at Back Lanes. I don't have the file here in front of me. Regards, Susan

I am writing to register interest in the following families: BLAKEMAN - Hanley, Wolstanton, Stoke-on-Trent, Penkridge, Seighford THOMPSON (Matthew Edward) - Stoke-on-Trent SMITH (I am an optimist!) - Wolstanton, Stoke-on-Trent, Bucknall cum Bagnall - first name Wilson (SMITH) might be easier to find a connection with than George, William or Jane! HARGREAVES - Hanley, Waterfall HOLLINSHEAD - Stoke-on-Trent, Leek, Ladderedge FERNYHOUGH - Stoke-on-Trent, Wolstanton, Audley, Madeley (Staffs.) - although I have a lot of information already on the FERNYHOUGHS BEECH - Madeley (Staffs.) HIGHFIELD - Mucklestone SPEED - Seighford TINSLEY/TINDSLEY - Burslem HARRISON - Wolstanton HARPER/HARPUR Many thanks. Judith

Hi Judith, Do you have among your FERNYHOUGHs a Dorothy who was of marrying age in 1832? The one I am looking for married Thomas HEATH at Keele in 1832 but their children were all christened at Burslem. Thanks, Leslie Leslie Prpich Volunteer Transcriber for the 1891 FreeCEN Project (North Staffordshire)

Would someone be able to check to see if a death was recorded for William Taft around July or August, 1911? This is a long shot, but his son, returned to England in Aug. 1911 so I thought maybe, that is when his father died. They lived around Stoke on Trent, at least thats the last address I had. I've been waiting to check the 1901 census to see what address they had then, but it looks like it will be quite some time before I'll be able to check that. His son returned to the USA on Aug. 18, 1911, so it would have been prior to that. Thanks Rochelle Trenton, New Jersey

Geoff and others. This is not exactly renaming but I have an interest in a multi-family dwelling known as the Terrace Buildings that I know no longer exists. The Terrace Buildings were still in existence in 1881, the census listing 23 separate residences. The location is shown on the 19th C Ordnance Survey map near the center of Fenton approximately in the location of the present-day north-south spur of the A50 adjacent to Glebedale Park. Anyone know anything about this? Peter Kelsall Researching: KELSALL in Buckley, Flintshire and Audley, Staffordshire IREDALE in Huddersfield SHONE in Buckley BLOOR in Longton Kelsall Genealogy Web Site http://www.users.qwest.net/~choice145395685 -----Original Message----- From: Geoff Barnett [mailto:geoff@irongb.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 4:40 PM To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Street Names in The Potteries Hi there to all, Anyone looking for Stoke-on-Trent Street renaming, I have the complete list here, just send me a line and all will be answered . Geoff Barnett, UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Blakeman" <jm@jblakeman.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 4:45 PM Subject: Re: Street Names in The Potteries > Hello John > > Can you tell me where Wolstanton fits into this scheme of things? Many > thanks. > > Judith > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Roberts" <tegfan@bigfoot.com> > To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 9:06 AM > Subject: Street Names in The Potteries > > > > Anyone looking for streets in The Potteries may find this information > > useful. > > The Potteries or City of Stoke on Trent is made up of Six Towns. North to > > South these are Tunstall, Burslem, Hanley, Stoke, Fenton, and Longton. > > Before the Six Towns were Federated in 1910, They were each run by the > > individual Town's Council. i.e. there were Six Town Councils. Each Council > > named their own street (amongst other things %-}). > > > > When The Six Towns were Federated, there was much duplication of street > > names. Eventually this became quite a 'headache' for the postal > authorities. > > This eventually lead to re-naming of duplicate streets within the City and > > this task was done in 1950. As a result a lot of the street named in > Family > > History Documents were affected and "appear" to no longer exist. Always > bear > > in mind when looking for a street location that it may have been re-named > > > > To add to the problem, there has been a vast amount of re- building within > > the City and thus many streets have been lost forever re-built with the > same > > or a similar name. > > > > Hope this is of some assistance, > > > > John Roberts > > In the Staffordshire Potteries Where The Mugs Come From. > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 19/04/02

Hello everyone, I'm still chasing my BRIGGS family, but wonder if anyone else has any evidence of migration to or from Chesterfield of pottery workers in mid-19th century. The Chesterfield potteries (for example Pearson's) seemed to produce particularly heavy household brown jars, storage container s etc. In spite of being brought up in Staffs (Burton-on-Trent) I am woefully ignorant of the local history. Regards, Alison, Gretton, Northants UK

Brian Randell, has asked we pass on the following message - Hi We are seeking volunteers to fill vacancies that have arisen for county page developers in GENUKI, the UK & Ireland Genealogical information service, particularly but not solely in Scotland. GENUKI is widely regarded as the premier on-line source for information about UK genealogy - it now contains more than 30,000 pages, occupying over 450 Mbytes of information, and over fifty people (many of whom have further helpers) are involved in its maintenance. The counties concerned are: ENGLAND - Berkshire, London, Middlesex, Shropshire, Somerset, Surrey SCOTLAND - Banffshire, Berwickshire, Bute, Dunbartonshire, Dumfriesshire, Kincardineshire, Midlothian, Moray, Nairnshire, Peebles-shire, Renfrewshire, Roxburghshire, Selkirkshire, Shetland, Stirlingshire, Sutherland, West Lothian WALES - Merionethshire, Monmouthshire The main requirements of county page volunteers are threefold: 1. Either considerable experience of family research in the specific area(s), or local knowledge and contacts within the area. 2. The ability to create simple HTML pages directly and also maintain them (including a basic understanding of HTML, directory structure management, and FTP). 3. Lots of enthusiasm! The work involved in taking responsibility for a county page is described at http://www.genuki.org.uk/org/guide.html. The amount of work that county page developers do varies considerably, and is of course governed by the amount of time they have available, the extent to which they can enlist the help of others - as indeed many have successfully done - and the level of ambition that they set for their pages. This is of course influenced by what other volunteers are managing elsewhere on their GENUKI county and parish pages - many of which have become rather impressive! However, we are keen to get to the stage where all the rest of our counties have at least basic information pages for all of their parishes. I'd be happy to try and answer any queries from potential volunteers for the above counties - and would also encourage people interested in helping with any of the other counties to contact the respective county page maintainer directly. (His/her name is to be found via the link to GENUKI maintainers near the foot of the GENUKI main page, http://www.genuki.org.uk/.) Anyone interested in helping with the Ireland section of GENUKI, which also has a number of vacancies, is invited to contact Richard White <white@hiwaay.net>. cheers Brian Randell Helen Verrall Temporary List Administrator- STAFFORDSHIRE ENG-STS-POTTERIES ENG-PUBS-INNS ENG-DESERTED-VILLAGES Email:hverrall@ihug.co.nz

Hi there to all, Anyone looking for Stoke-on-Trent Street renaming, I have the complete list here, just send me a line and all will be answered . Geoff Barnett, UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Blakeman" <jm@jblakeman.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 4:45 PM Subject: Re: Street Names in The Potteries > Hello John > > Can you tell me where Wolstanton fits into this scheme of things? Many > thanks. > > Judith > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Roberts" <tegfan@bigfoot.com> > To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 9:06 AM > Subject: Street Names in The Potteries > > > > Anyone looking for streets in The Potteries may find this information > > useful. > > The Potteries or City of Stoke on Trent is made up of Six Towns. North to > > South these are Tunstall, Burslem, Hanley, Stoke, Fenton, and Longton. > > Before the Six Towns were Federated in 1910, They were each run by the > > individual Town's Council. i.e. there were Six Town Councils. Each Council > > named their own street (amongst other things %-}). > > > > When The Six Towns were Federated, there was much duplication of street > > names. Eventually this became quite a 'headache' for the postal > authorities. > > This eventually lead to re-naming of duplicate streets within the City and > > this task was done in 1950. As a result a lot of the street named in > Family > > History Documents were affected and "appear" to no longer exist. Always > bear > > in mind when looking for a street location that it may have been re-named > > > > To add to the problem, there has been a vast amount of re- building within > > the City and thus many streets have been lost forever re-built with the > same > > or a similar name. > > > > Hope this is of some assistance, > > > > John Roberts > > In the Staffordshire Potteries Where The Mugs Come From. > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 19/04/02

My g g grandfather was Nichol Watson (possibly born Scotland). In 1832, Nichol married Hannah Birchell at St John's, Burslem. Their children included Emma (married name James, settled in Poplar, London), Elijah (settled in Devon) and Robert (remained in the Potteries). Anybody else researching Watson in the Potteries? Regards, Jan Hill ----- Original Message ----- From: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 10:00 PM Subject: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D Digest V02 #118

Hi, Could someone please tell me if where my grandparents were born still exists. My Grandfather was born in 1888 at 63, Brindley Street, Burslem. the district Wolstanton. My Grandmother was born in 1883 at Boards Row, Smallthorn, Norton. district Leek Thank You JoyceJones Great Barr Birmingham.

Wolstanton lies in the Borough of Newcastle Under Lyme and therefore is not affected by re-naming of Streets in Stoke on Trent. Hope this helps, John Roberts In the Staffordshire Potteries Where The Mugs Come From. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Blakeman" <jm@jblakeman.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 4:45 PM Subject: Re: Street Names in The Potteries > Hello John > > Can you tell me where Wolstanton fits into this scheme of things? Many > thanks. > > Judith > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Roberts" <tegfan@bigfoot.com> > To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 9:06 AM > Subject: Street Names in The Potteries > > > > Anyone looking for streets in The Potteries may find this information > > useful. > > The Potteries or City of Stoke on Trent is made up of Six Towns. North to > > South these are Tunstall, Burslem, Hanley, Stoke, Fenton, and Longton. > > Before the Six Towns were Federated in 1910, They were each run by the > > individual Town's Council. i.e. there were Six Town Councils. Each Council > > named their own street (amongst other things %-}). > > > > When The Six Towns were Federated, there was much duplication of street > > names. Eventually this became quite a 'headache' for the postal > authorities. > > This eventually lead to re-naming of duplicate streets within the City and > > this task was done in 1950. As a result a lot of the street named in > Family > > History Documents were affected and "appear" to no longer exist. Always > bear > > in mind when looking for a street location that it may have been re-named > > > > To add to the problem, there has been a vast amount of re- building within > > the City and thus many streets have been lost forever re-built with the > same > > or a similar name. > > > > Hope this is of some assistance, > > > > John Roberts > > In the Staffordshire Potteries Where The Mugs Come From. > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hello John Can you tell me where Wolstanton fits into this scheme of things? Many thanks. Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Roberts" <tegfan@bigfoot.com> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 9:06 AM Subject: Street Names in The Potteries > Anyone looking for streets in The Potteries may find this information > useful. > The Potteries or City of Stoke on Trent is made up of Six Towns. North to > South these are Tunstall, Burslem, Hanley, Stoke, Fenton, and Longton. > Before the Six Towns were Federated in 1910, They were each run by the > individual Town's Council. i.e. there were Six Town Councils. Each Council > named their own street (amongst other things %-}). > > When The Six Towns were Federated, there was much duplication of street > names. Eventually this became quite a 'headache' for the postal authorities. > This eventually lead to re-naming of duplicate streets within the City and > this task was done in 1950. As a result a lot of the street named in Family > History Documents were affected and "appear" to no longer exist. Always bear > in mind when looking for a street location that it may have been re-named > > To add to the problem, there has been a vast amount of re- building within > the City and thus many streets have been lost forever re-built with the same > or a similar name. > > Hope this is of some assistance, > > John Roberts > In the Staffordshire Potteries Where The Mugs Come From. > > > > >

Janet is a subscriber address - Janet@risinsun.co.uk so you can reply to list or Janet!! Glitch in system!! Helen Helen Verrall Temporary List Administrator- STAFFORDSHIRE ENG-STS-POTTERIES ENG-PUBS-INNS ENG-DESERTED-VILLAGES Email:hverrall@ihug.co.nz -----Original Message----- From: Janet [mailto:Janet@risinsun.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 7:35 AM To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [STS] Renaming of streets Hi there I have Elers St just above Prospect St (both off Newport Rd) at the bottom end of Middleport. Funnily enough the same street map does not list Yale St!! Can you tell me some adjacent streets? Many thanks for your info - it really helps. Janet Howell ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø, A chicken is just an egg's way of making another egg. ¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º www.risinsun.co.uk www.orientaltabby.freeuk.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Roberts" <tegfan@bigfoot.com> To: <STAFFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com>; <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Janet Singleton" <Hywel@risinsun.co.uk> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [STS] Renaming of streets > > Hi Janet, > Ricardo Street, Burslem (Middleport is a suburb of Burslem) was re-named in > 1950 and the new name that it was given the was Elers Street. However, I see > from my Street Map that Elers street does not appear to exist now. > > Earl Street, Burslem was re-named at ythe same time to Yale Street. This > Street appears to still exist and this again is in the Middleport area of > Burslem. Hope you can find this on your street map. > > John Roberts > In the Staffordshire Potteries Where The Mugs Come From. > > > > > Does anyone know where Ricardo Street, Middleport was or what it is called > > now? Note that this is a different Ricardo St to the one in the Dresden > > area. There was also an Earl Street, Middleport on the 1901 census and I > > can't see that on a current street map either. Any ideas? > > > >

Hello everyone, I am looking for two christenings - Isaac BRIGGS in Hanley around 1848, son of John and Isabella, and his brother Thomas in Newcastle-under-Lyme in about 1845. The family came from Brampton Chesterfield DBY and returned there later working in potteries there. I am also looking for a George POTTS who was born in Wednesbury in around 1838 and who married Elizabeth ?? possibly around 1864 in the same area. I would be very grateful for any information Regards, Alison Merricks, Gretton, Northants UK

Anyone looking for streets in The Potteries may find this information useful. The Potteries or City of Stoke on Trent is made up of Six Towns. North to South these are Tunstall, Burslem, Hanley, Stoke, Fenton, and Longton. Before the Six Towns were Federated in 1910, They were each run by the individual Town's Council. i.e. there were Six Town Councils. Each Council named their own street (amongst other things %-}). When The Six Towns were Federated, there was much duplication of street names. Eventually this became quite a 'headache' for the postal authorities. This eventually lead to re-naming of duplicate streets within the City and this task was done in 1950. As a result a lot of the street named in Family History Documents were affected and "appear" to no longer exist. Always bear in mind when looking for a street location that it may have been re-named To add to the problem, there has been a vast amount of re- building within the City and thus many streets have been lost forever re-built with the same or a similar name. Hope this is of some assistance, John Roberts In the Staffordshire Potteries Where The Mugs Come From.