Friends As the Northern Residents are beginning to take their Summer Holidays, I am reiterating the address to use for Unsubscribing and Resubcribing!! Unless your have a large capacity Mail Box allocated by your ISP I suggest you Unsubscribe and Resubscribe if your are to be away more than a week. Back messages can be read on Archives at - http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES I suggest you do NOT, advise the list when you are departing, this is for your own protection. To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L-request@rootsweb.com (to receive the message individually) or ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D-request@rootsweb.com (to receive multiple messages in one email) In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe or unsubscribe. THIS SHOULD BE THE ONLY WORD IN THE BODY OF THE MESSAGE! NOTE: Please remove any tags or signatures, before sending Subscription email to Rootsweb. Helen Verrall Temporary List Administrator STAFFORDSHIRE ENG-STS- POTTERIES DESERTED - VILLAGES PUBS - INNS

Keith Please use this address when posting to list!! ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Helen Helen Verrall Temporary List Administrator STAFFORDSHIRE ENG-STS- POTTERIES DESERTED - VILLAGES PUBS - INNS -----Original Message----- From: K J Howard [mailto:kjhoward@austarnet.com.au] Sent: Friday, 21 June 2002 1:59 a.m. To: eng-sts-the-potteries-l-request@rootsweb.com Subject: Johnsons,Howard and others in the Tean/Checkley/Leigh area. Hi there Listers. Have only just subscribed to the Potteries List. I am currently reseaeching the Johnson Families and associated families from Tean & Checkley. Other Surnames involved with and part of these families are Nash Howard Hurst Sanders,Beaman Chell Walker, Wright and Farmer.. Most of the families come from round Tean,Checkley,Rocester,Winnoth Dale, Cheadle and various addresses in the Potteries. Any help or knowlege of these would help. Oldest Date for the Johnsons is 1690 Marriage of George Johnson to Ann Brierly. No knowledge of parents at this stage, hopefully when I receive the Microfiches for Checkley from the Salt Library at Stafford more will be recvealed. Keith Johnson Howard (Now in NSW,Australia) Formerly of Tean/Bournemouth.

Hello again Paula, I've looked for Annice on the whole census -no luck. Tried all Agnes' born 5 years either side of 1879( up to the census of course)- 1 in Oxford and 2 in Surrey. Apart from one in St. Olaves workhouse in Southwark(no father's name), the other fathers are not Charles or coal miner. Tried all Alices same dates - 2 in Staffs-one father Thomas(tailor) and the other John (coal miner). It seems to me most likely that she lied about her age on her marriage. It is very, very common. Therefore she probably would not have been born by the 1881 census. Got a list of all Charles Gaters on the census. They were in London, Berks, Cheshire, Staffs, Warks, Herts, Monmth, Surr, Wilts, and Kent. Can't really check them all to see if any are coal miners, but they have not got Alices or Agnes' of the right age. Only checked the ones in Staffordshire. Found two possibles: Church St., Audley, Talk O Th Hill, Staffs. Charles Gater, Wid., Coal Miner, 49, Born Cheshire Sons 12 and 10 years Married Dau Sarah Shenton 26 ( her husband could have been on nightshift) her sons 9,5,2months, and dau 4. 98 Queen St, Rugely, Staffs Charles Gater, 20, collier, born Newport, Shropsshire Mary Ann, 19,collier's wife, born Brereton, Staffs (noticed at 90 Queen St. William, 27, Iron miner, born Newport) I think you will have to try to find Annice on the 1891census. I hope that these will help you to begin looking. Best wishes, Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula J Myers" <pjayem1964@btinternet.com> To: <linda-fawcett1@supanet.com> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 12:20 PM Subject: re Annice & Charles GATER - Thank You > > Hello, > > Just to say thank you for looking up Charles and Annice for me, I truly > appreciate it. > > I believe that Charles Gater was a coal miner. It is not indicated whether > he was deceased on Annice's marriage certificate. I don't know the name of > Annice's mother, unfortunately, as this would whittle things down even further. > > So I'm still confused :-( > > Thanks again > -- > Paula > > > > >

Tim is a subscriber, please reply to list! Must be a hiccup with new server. Helen -----Original Message----- From: Tim Callaghan [mailto:tim.callaghan@4hstc.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Friday, 21 June 2002 5:24 a.m. To: eng-sts-the-potteries-l@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} Fw: Barlaston BMD records Does anyone have access to any BMD records for Barlaston (Staffordshire) or census records for Barlaston or Moddershall? Thanks Tim

Tim is a subscriber so reply to list!! Helen -----Original Message----- From: Tim Callaghan [mailto:tim.callaghan@4hstc.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Friday, 21 June 2002 5:25 a.m. To: eng-sts-the-potteries-l@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} Fw: Woottons/Gratwiches from North Staffordshire Does anyone have any WOOTTON or GRATWICH (or variants) ancesters from North Staffordshire? Tim

Does anyone have any WOOTTON or GRATWICH (or variants) ancesters from North Staffordshire? Tim

Does anyone have access to any BMD records for Barlaston (Staffordshire) or census records for Barlaston or Moddershall? Thanks Tim

Nancy To post a message to the list please this address eng-sts-the-potteries-l@rootsweb.com - see your introductory letter. Helen Helen Verrall Temporary List Administrator STAFFORDSHIRE ENG-STS- POTTERIES DESERTED - VILLAGES PUBS - INNS -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Burgon [mailto:nancyb@burgoyne.com] Sent: Thursday, 20 June 2002 11:19 a.m. To: eng-sts-the-potteries-l-request@rootsweb.com Subject: ELIZA ROBERTS SHIRLEY Hi, I am seeking information about my greatgrandmother,ELIZA ROBERTS SHIRLEY. I have found her on the 1871 census, but I don't have the 1881 census available,Could someone who has access to that census, for Burslem(thats where she was born ,but she died in Derby,Derbyshire). She was a person who worked in the potteries. I would love to see with whom she was living at that time. Sincerely, and hopefuly, Nancy Burgon

Hello Ann I have Mary Beech, christened 15 Feb 1789, who married Josiah Fernyhough in 1811 in Madeley, Staffs. She was the daughter of John Beech, who was possibly the husband of Hannah Jackson. Best wishes Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Simcock" <ann.simcock@virgin.net> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 6:57 AM Subject: New to list > Dear all on the Potteries list as a new member I would like to ask if anyone > is researching the same names as myself. :- > Parr and related names, Garner, Hulme, Pemberton, Pickering, Mellor and > Cooper > Mayer with related names, Shepherd, Doolan/Doland Hancock > Simcock with related names, Hulme, Beech, Rowley. > Hope to hear from you soon Best wishes Ann Simcock > >

Dear Sandra, thank you for the email. I do not think that we have the same Rowleys unfortunately. If I find anything else I will keep the email and let you know. Thanks Ann Simcock ----- Original Message ----- From: "S.Todd" <todd@todd55.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 11:15 AM Subject: Re: New to list > Hello Anne, > I have a Cooper - Mary Ann Cooper born Stoke 1807 married Isaac Rowley and > had one daughter named Emma. Isaac died sometime before 1826 when Mary > married Charles Bevington at Fulford. Their children were Abraham Cooper > Bevington, Hannah Bevington, Eliza Bevington, Herbert Bevington and Charles > Bevington. Emma Rowley took the name of Bevington . > The only other item I know about Mary is that she had a brother named > Thomas. As you see my main interest is Bevington. I would be most grateful > if you could pass on anything you may find should you have the time. Many > thanks > Regards > Sandra Todd > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ann Simcock <ann.simcock@virgin.net> > To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 6:57 AM > Subject: New to list > > > > Dear all on the Potteries list as a new member I would like to ask if > anyone > > is researching the same names as myself. :- > > Parr and related names, Garner, Hulme, Pemberton, Pickering, Mellor and > > Cooper > > Mayer with related names, Shepherd, Doolan/Doland Hancock > > Simcock with related names, Hulme, Beech, Rowley. > > Hope to hear from you soon Best wishes Ann Simcock > > > > > >

Hello Anne, I have a Cooper - Mary Ann Cooper born Stoke 1807 married Isaac Rowley and had one daughter named Emma. Isaac died sometime before 1826 when Mary married Charles Bevington at Fulford. Their children were Abraham Cooper Bevington, Hannah Bevington, Eliza Bevington, Herbert Bevington and Charles Bevington. Emma Rowley took the name of Bevington . The only other item I know about Mary is that she had a brother named Thomas. As you see my main interest is Bevington. I would be most grateful if you could pass on anything you may find should you have the time. Many thanks Regards Sandra Todd ----- Original Message ----- From: Ann Simcock <ann.simcock@virgin.net> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 6:57 AM Subject: New to list > Dear all on the Potteries list as a new member I would like to ask if anyone > is researching the same names as myself. :- > Parr and related names, Garner, Hulme, Pemberton, Pickering, Mellor and > Cooper > Mayer with related names, Shepherd, Doolan/Doland Hancock > Simcock with related names, Hulme, Beech, Rowley. > Hope to hear from you soon Best wishes Ann Simcock > >

Please reply direct. Helen -----Original Message----- From: Tim Callaghan [mailto:tim.callaghan@4hstc.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, 19 June 2002 6:13 a.m. To: STAFFORDSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com; eng-sts-the-potteries-l@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} Woottons/Gratwiches from North Staffordshire Does anyone have any WOOTTON or GRATWICH (or variants) ancesters from North Staffordshire? Tim

Please reply direct!!! Helen -----Original Message----- From: Tim Callaghan [mailto:tim.callaghan@4hstc.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, 19 June 2002 6:12 a.m. To: eng-sts-the-potteries-l@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} Barlaston BMD records Does anyone have access to any BMD records for Barlaston (Staffordshire) or census records for Barlaston or Moddershall? Thanks Tim

Hello Ann, I am researching William HULME b 1863. His father was Thomas HULME. I beleive they came from Cheddleton. Any connection? Cheers, Colin. Ann Simcock wrote: > > Dear all on the Potteries list as a new member I would like to ask if anyone > is researching the same names as myself. :- > Parr and related names, Garner, Hulme, Pemberton, Pickering, Mellor and > Cooper > Mayer with related names, Shepherd, Doolan/Doland Hancock > Simcock with related names, Hulme, Beech, Rowley. > Hope to hear from you soon Best wishes Ann Simcock

Dear all on the Potteries list as a new member I would like to ask if anyone is researching the same names as myself. :- Parr and related names, Garner, Hulme, Pemberton, Pickering, Mellor and Cooper Mayer with related names, Shepherd, Doolan/Doland Hancock Simcock with related names, Hulme, Beech, Rowley. Hope to hear from you soon Best wishes Ann Simcock

There is no certain date for the opening of Mossfield colliery. From personal memory of the Colliery Plans, as Surveyor there, it was working in the 1700's. At that time it was not run by the Mossfield Colliery Company. In 1855 there was a deed of Co-partnership between Hawley & Bridgewood, coal masters. At this time Mossfield belonged to a company under the partnership of First part: Martha Harper, widow, Second Part: Mary Walker (wife of the Rev. J H Walker) and Walter J Napier (Barrister). Third part: Felix Hulse Hawley (colliery proprietor): Fourth part: James Glover Bakewell (colliery manager), Fifth Part: Herbert Hawley (colliery proprietor) and several others quite a few of which were women. Following a very varied career, the Colliery came eventually into the hands of The Mossfield Colliery Company on 31st December 1902. There were two explosions at Mossfield. The first being on 16th October 1889 when 66 lives were lost. Five bodies were never recovered. The second Explosion happened in 1940, and there is a memorial in Longton Cemetery listing all those killed. On a lighter note, Mossfield was known as "The Old Sal". It derived this name from the fact that in it's early days there was an old "Beam Pump" used to remove water from the workings. Tom Jones was the pump man and also Hauling Engine worker. His wife, Sarah, used to keep her eye on the pumping engine when Tom was dealing with the hauling of coal. To make this duty less of a burden She was always to be found near the Pit Top Knitting, or in the nearby George Salt's Cottage. As a result, the men dubbed the Pumping Engine "Old Sal" and the name stuck right up to the closure of the Colliery in the 1960's. There is no known picture of the colliery that now exists. There used to be one in my Office but it was "lost". Hope this is of interest. John Roberts In the Staffordshire Potteries Where The Mugs Come From. ----- Original Message ----- From: <EarlJDavis@aol.com> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 8:48 PM Subject: Mossfield Colliery > Couple of quick questions. > > 1) Does anyone know when Mossfield Colliery opened? > > 2) Does anyone have a scanned photograph of the mine? > > Regards Earl. > >

Couple of quick questions. 1) Does anyone know when Mossfield Colliery opened? 2) Does anyone have a scanned photograph of the mine? Regards Earl.

Hi Everyone,Is there anyone out there connected to The WOOD FAMILY of Burslem.My connections go back to a Moses-WOOD of circa 1650.Graham. R.Graham Williams,In Cardiff.

Hello Paula I also had a look but could not find anything that matched. Again, do you have any more specific details? Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Fawcett" <linda-fawcett1@supanet.com> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 11:12 AM Subject: Re: 1881 Census look up GATER > Hello Paula, > I have just been having a look on the 1881 for you but having problems. > You may already have had the help you need. > If not, can you tell me her mother's name and her father's occupation. > Was her father alive on her first marriage certificate? > Best wishes, > Linda > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paula J Myers" <pjayem1964@btinternet.com> > To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:14 PM > Subject: 1881 Census look up GATER > > > > > > Hello Listers, > > > > Having just received a copy of my great-grandmother Annice GATER's first > > marriage certificate. (She married twice) > > I now have her father's name i.e. Charles GATER > > > > Would some very kind soul please look up Charles and Annice on the 1881 > census. > > The address on the marriage certificate is 50 or 52 Hot Lane, Burslem STS. > > > > However, the wedding was in 1898. > > > > It is possible that Annice could be written as Alice or Agnes GATER. > > > > Any info would be appreciated. > > > > TIA > > -- > > Paula > > > > > >

Hello Paula, I have just been having a look on the 1881 for you but having problems. You may already have had the help you need. If not, can you tell me her mother's name and her father's occupation. Was her father alive on her first marriage certificate? Best wishes, Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula J Myers" <pjayem1964@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:14 PM Subject: 1881 Census look up GATER > > Hello Listers, > > Having just received a copy of my great-grandmother Annice GATER's first > marriage certificate. (She married twice) > I now have her father's name i.e. Charles GATER > > Would some very kind soul please look up Charles and Annice on the 1881 census. > The address on the marriage certificate is 50 or 52 Hot Lane, Burslem STS. > > However, the wedding was in 1898. > > It is possible that Annice could be written as Alice or Agnes GATER. > > Any info would be appreciated. > > TIA > -- > Paula > >