Is this Saint Paul's Burslem? No. It was lawned over. About forty years ago. The church was demolished about 30 years ago and rebuilt about thirty yards away. Ron S > Was the burial ground at St,Pauls moved? Marge Allcorn > margieall@neo.rr.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 3:00 PM > Subject: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D Digest V02 #163 > > > > Ron S

Hi Gordon Re: Lookups in the 1881 census. Please can you lookup - 24 Luke St. Leicester 37 St John Street, Leicester Thank you ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Chatfield Sent: 19 July 2002 21:00 To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: New Lister Hi Everyone, I am new to the list and would like to show the family I am researching. Chatfield I should also mention that I am new to Genealogy. I have found my Great Grandfather in the 1881 Census living at James Street Stoke with his wife Emma and several children. I should be most grateful for any assistance in expanding my tree. I have the complete set of CDs covering the 1881 Census, and will be happy to do lookups for anyone. I look forward to more contacts with other listers. I spent a good part of my life in Trent Vale and now live in Australia. Regards Gordon All Outgoing Messages Checked For VirusesGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

I am looking for the SHEMILT family, in 1891 there was seven children from two families - there was at least two males but as yet I cannot find any trace of any of the children or their off spring. They were based around the Chorlton on Medlock area. If anyone can help I would be very grateful, I seem to have hit the proverbial brick wall. Hi, maybe not much use but you never know. Back in about 1971 I was serving my time as an apprentice fitter at Akron Engineers in Trentham. There came a young man, surname SHEMILT to work on the bench along side us. He would be of a similar age to me ( b1953 ), he was a student in I guess engineering. He attended Newcastle College, now the bad news. He got killed in a car accident on the A34 north bound carriageway just above the college toward Milehouse Lane. This info may help you to piece a jigsaw together sometime, who knows ? Kindest regards de Dave

Hello. this is Christine reposting my interests, SHELMERDINE - around the Manchester, Hulme, Droylsden. Ashton.Stockport, Clayton SHEMILT- Hulme, Chorlton -on-Medlock, Prestwich and Staffordshire. NORRIS - Oldham, Liverpool. Ireland. HARVIESON / HARVISON - Oldham, Scotland HANSON - Huddersfield, Oldham RAISTRICK - Bradford, Manchester TETLEY - Bradford. Yorkshire. I am looking for the SHEMILT family, in 1891 there was seven children from two families - there was at least two males but as yet I cannot find any trace of any of the children or their off spring. They were based around the Chorlton on Medlock area. If anyone can help I would be very grateful, I seem to have hit the proverbial brick wall. Thanking you in anticipation, Christine

Christine: There are several SHEMILT families in Canada, in British Columbia and Ontario mainly, but 1 in Alberta. I have listed below 4 URL's for locating people over here. Canada 411 http://canada411.sympatico.ca/eng/person.html Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid http://www.islandnet.com/ocfa/ BC Cemetery Finding Aid http://www.islandnet.com/bccfa/ BC Archives Vital Indexes http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/textual/governmt/vstats/v_events.htm#indexes If you find anything in this last URL, let me know. I work just a few blocks from the archives and can visit at lunch. It only costs 40 cents per copy (about 20p) and I am glad to help. Pamela White Victoria BC Canada Researching: Ontario - BATES, BOWEN, NICOLL, RICHARDSON, WATTERS, WHITTINGHAM Cornwall - GALE, HOSKIN Cumberland - BATES, FISHER Devon - GALE, WHITTINGHAM London/Middlesex - BOWEN, GALLON (GILLAN) Staffordshire - WALTON, WHITTINGHAM Angus - BOWEN, DICK, DYE, GARDINER, GEORGE, HOWE, KIDD, NICOLL, REID, SMITH Banff - ALLAN, GREENLAW, GRAY, MORISON, RAINY, RIDDOCH Perth - BROWN, RICHARDSON Stirling - ALLAN, HENDERSON, MARSHALL, RICHARDSON

Was the burial ground at St,Pauls moved? Marge Allcorn margieall@neo.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 3:00 PM Subject: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D Digest V02 #163

Great Grandparents: FERNYHOUGH, COTTERILL, LYMER, CROSS, KEY, METCALFE, KELSALL, HAMBLETON descended from: PARKER, LESTER, LEIGH, DILWORTH, BENNETT, RIDGWAY, OWEN Apologies to those on more than one of these lists Here are my Great Grandparents: FATHER's line: Great-Grandparents #1: Great Grandfather's Name: Albert FERNYHOUGH Date of Birth/Baptism: 2 dec 1888 Place of Birth/Baptism: Longton/Fenton Date of Marriage: 21 Feb 1909 Place of Marriage: Edensor, nr Longton, Stoke on trent, Staffordshire Date of death/burial: 1978 Place of death/burial: Stoke on Trent, Staffs Parents: William Henry FERNYHOUGH & Matilda PARKER Great Grandmother's Name: Elizabeth COTTERILL Date of Birth/Baptism: 20 Mar 1887 Place of Birth/Baptism: Fenton, Stoke on Trent, Staffs Date of Marriage: 21 Feb 1909 Place of Marriage: Edensor, nr Longton, Stoke on trent, Staffordshire Date of death/burial: 7 Oct 1959 Place of death/burial: Stoke on Trent, Staffs Parents: Zachariah COTTERILL & Mary LESTER Great-Grandparents #2: Great Grandfather's Name: Arthur LYMER Date of Birth/Baptism: 1 Nov 1881 Place of Birth/Baptism: Fenton, Stoke on Trent, Staffs Date of Marriage: 25 Dec 1907 Place of Marriage: Blurton, Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire Date of death/burial: 10 Feb 1952 Place of death/burial: Stoke on Trent, Staffs Parents: William LYMER & Harriet LEIGH Great Grandmother's Name: Ethel CROSS Date of Birth/Baptism: 26 Oct 1881 Place of Birth/Baptism: Blurton, Staffordshire Date of Marriage: 25 Dec 1907 Place of Marriage: Blurton, Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire Date of death/burial: 31 Jul 1951 Place of death/burial: Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire Parents: John CROSS & Jane DILWORTH MOTHER's line: Great-Grandparents #1: Great Grandfather's Name: Frederick or Philip KEY Date of Birth/Baptism: est 1865 Place of Birth/Baptism: est Eccleshall, Staffs Date of Marriage: 12 Jun 1892 Place of Marriage: Shelton, Hanley, Stoke on trent, Staffordshire Date of death/burial: unknown Place of death/burial: Parents: est John KEY & unknown Great Grandmother's Name: Sarah Ann METCALFE Date of Birth/Baptism: 16 Jan 1870 Place of Birth/Baptism: Kingswinford, Staffordshire Date of Marriage: 12 Jun 1892 Place of Marriage: Shelton, Hanley, Stoke on trent, Staffordshire Date of death/burial: 7 Apr 1948 Place of death/burial: Stoke on trent, Staffordshire Parents: William METCALFE & Elizabeth BENNETT Great-Grandparents #2: Great Grandfather's Name: Fred KELSALL Date of Birth/Baptism: 24 Jul 1864 Place of Birth/Baptism: Hanley, Stoke on Trent, Satffordshire Date of Marriage: 9 May 1898 Place of Marriage: Hanley, Staffordshire Date of death/burial: 13 Aug 1918 Place of death/burial: Hanley, Stoke on trent, Staffordshire Parents: William KELSALL & Ann RIDGWAY Great Grandmother's Name: Harriet HAMBLETON Date of Birth/Baptism: 26 Mar 1877 Place of Birth/Baptism: Shelton, Hanley, Staffordshire Date of Marriage: 9 May 1898 Place of Marriage: Hanley, Staffordshire Date of death/burial: 28 may 1932 Place of death/burial: Stoke on trent, Staffordshire Parents: Curzon HAMBLETON & Ellen OWEN

Looking for this family probably in Longton or Fenton Stoke On Trent Enock White born 18-- Sarah H White (nee Booth) born 1867 Children Percy White 1885 Alfred White 1888 Mabel 1890 All would be living together. By 1893 dau born at 79 Blantyre St, Florence, Trentham. By 1901 places of birth thought to be Fenton. Can someone check the 1891 Census please. ............................................................................ 1881 Census Look up for John Booth born 1815 Lilya Booth (nee Banks of wolv) Children: John Booth 1865 Elya Booth 1871 Child Booth Emma Booth 1889 (should be on 1891 Census) Can anyone discover these families for me. Kind regards Carole

John TAYLOR was baptised 1624 in Burslem. Richard TAYLOR was baptised 8-4-1627 in Burslem. Parents were James TAYLOR and Mary. No further info on parents at present. Marriage and baptisms sought. Can anyone connect to this line? Ron S

Hi everyone I am new to this list and hoping for help. Can anyone check the 1891 Census for me for this family: Enock White born c 1860ish Sarah H White (nee Booth) born 1867 Children Percy White 1885 Alfred White 1888 Mabel White 1890 (May have died young) Enoch is thought to be a Coal Miner. The family are thought to be from Longton, Stoke-on-Trent. With the places Florence and Fenton being mentioned - but I think this is for later Children. Kind regards and thank you. Carole Staffs

My Grandfather Charles SNAPE served in South Africa and later in WW1. He was in the Militia of the North Staffs Regiment (The Prince of Wales's). I have found both his Militia attestation and his WW1 records at the PRO in Kew. It has always been my understanding that his elder brother Albert also served in South Africa with him. I have a studio photograph of two soldiers in colonial uniform and believe(d) the other soldier to be Albert. I could find no corresponding attestation for Albert in the North Staffs Militia papers. In the WW1 enlistment documents for my grandfather Charles, under the heading of Previous Service, it gives his service in the Militia and states that he served in South Africa. The corresponding entry for Albert says that he had previous service in the Militia but states simply "Served time", no mention of South Africa or of any other embodied service. Albert was evidently not in the North Staffs but (during WW1) in the Royal Engineers. Was there any Militia regiment attached to the Royal Engineers? Did the Royal Engineers serve in South Africa? Did the Royal Engineers have any sort of recruiting base in north Staffs (Tunstall)? Where is Albert's Militia documentation? Any thoughts very welcome. Ron S

Hello, I'd like to repost my surname interests. My great grandmother was Emma WATSON (parents were Nichol WATSON and Hannah BIRCHELL). Emma was born around 1835 in Burslem. Emma's siblings were Elijah and Robert. Emma married William JAMES and they moved around 1865 to Poplar, East LONDON. I'd be pleased to hear from anyone else researching this family or anyone in the Burslem area who could help with lookups etc. Regards, Jan Hill ----- Original Message ----- From: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:00 AM Subject: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D Digest V02 #169

Hi Everyone, I am new to the list and would like to show the family I am researching. Chatfield I should also mention that I am new to Genealogy. I have found my Great Grandfather in the 1881 Census living at James Street Stoke with his wife Emma and several children. I should be most grateful for any assistance in expanding my tree. I have the complete set of CDs covering the 1881 Census, and will be happy to do lookups for anyone. I look forward to more contacts with other listers. I spent a good part of my life in Trent Vale and now live in Australia. Regards Gordon All Outgoing Messages Checked For Viruses

Dear Colin, I have just read the emails which I saved to reply to and find that there is no reply shown to your email. I must apologise. I have not come across a Thomas Hulme yet but I have three branches of Hulmes to find, two for my husband whose grandfathers both married ladies name Hulme in Fenton and I have Hulmes in my ancestry on the Parr side, these mainly lived in the Burslem/Tunstall area. However this does not signify as even tho transport was not as easy they moved about quite alot. Once again, apologies for not replying earlier. Best wishes Ann Simcock ----- Original Message ----- From: <colin-hulme@bctalk.net> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 7:23 AM Subject: Re: New to list > Hello Ann, > > I am researching William HULME b 1863. His father was Thomas HULME. I > beleive they came from Cheddleton. Any connection? > > Cheers, > > Colin. > > Ann Simcock wrote: > > > > Dear all on the Potteries list as a new member I would like to ask if anyone > > is researching the same names as myself. :- > > Parr and related names, Garner, Hulme, Pemberton, Pickering, Mellor and > > Cooper > > Mayer with related names, Shepherd, Doolan/Doland Hancock > > Simcock with related names, Hulme, Beech, Rowley. > > Hope to hear from you soon Best wishes Ann Simcock >

Friends Pam Cotton has started a mailing list for the MASON surname in England, the general Mason list is very much USA orientated and I applied for and got the MASON-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com list. Those interested should subscribe to MASON-ENGLAND-L-request@rootsweb.com Helen Temp List Administrator

Thanks for the information about Sprostons---I hope to find a connection between the branches! I have been reading this book 'When I was a child' by Charles Shaw and one of the old maps shows the township of Chatterly between Tunstall /Burslem and Wolstanton Ethel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leslie Prpich" <lprpich@uvic.ca> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 8:28 PM Subject: RE: Fegg Hayes > Hi Ethel, > > I don't have any information on Fegg Hayes Chapel or the SPROSTON family, > but John SPROSTON married Susannah WHITMORE at St Margaret's Church in > Wolstanton on 5 Aug 1833. They had a daughter, Susannah Harriet SPROSTON, > who was baptised at St Paul's Church in Burslem on 21 Feb 1836. John > SPROSTON died in 1834, and Susannah remarried. Her second husband was John > EDWARDS. John and Susannah EDWARDS had several children; their eldest > daughter Mary Ann married into my STEVENSON family. Mary Ann and Isaac > STEVENSON lived in Chatterley, so perhaps her first husband is connected to > your SPROSTONs? I'm afraid I have no other details on John SPROSTON's birth > or his parents. Please let me know if you think there is a connection. > > Regards, Leslie in Victoria, British Columbia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ethel Carroll [mailto:ethel.carroll@talk21.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 11:34 AM > To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Fegg Hayes > > > Has anyone any information on Fegg Hayes Primitive Methodist Chapel or the > Sproston family who lived in the area about 1800 The 2 brothers worked at > Chatterly Whitfield > Thank you > Ethel Carroll > > > > >

The town that Arnold Bennett "forgot" was Fenton. The reason for him leaving it out was that - to him - Six Towns did not sound quite so "harmonious" as Five Towns. John Roberts In The Staffordshire Potteries Where The Mugs Come From ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Snape" <snape@cix.co.uk> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 2:07 PM Subject: Re: New lister > > > > I look forward to hearing from somebody. > > > > by the way were are the Potteries? > > In North Staffordshire, centred on Stoke-on-Trent. > > They include the former towns of Hanley, Longton, Fenton, Stoke, Tunstall > and Burslem, amongst others. > > The book "Anna of the Five Towns" by Arnold Bennett and its ITV > dramatisasion "Clayhanger" are set in the Potteries. > > The Trent and Mersey Canal runs through and is generally considered to > have been one of the main stimuli to the development of the pottery > industry. > > Stoke and Port Vale are the main local football teams. > > Does anyone know which of the six towns listed above is not one of the > Five Towns? > > Ron S > >

> > I look forward to hearing from somebody. > > by the way were are the Potteries? In North Staffordshire, centred on Stoke-on-Trent. They include the former towns of Hanley, Longton, Fenton, Stoke, Tunstall and Burslem, amongst others. The book "Anna of the Five Towns" by Arnold Bennett and its ITV dramatisasion "Clayhanger" are set in the Potteries. The Trent and Mersey Canal runs through and is generally considered to have been one of the main stimuli to the development of the pottery industry. Stoke and Port Vale are the main local football teams. Does anyone know which of the six towns listed above is not one of the Five Towns? Ron S

> ps. Have you looked around Prees SAL for the WEALE's? > I have SNAPE emigrating from Prees to Tunstall and Burslem in the 1860s. Was this a popular route? Ron S

I am researching the following names - BANKS : Stretton (Cheshire), Manchester (Lancs) BRADBURY : Lymm (Cheshire) BROWNBILL : St Helens (Lancs) CALLAGHAN : St Helens (Lancs), Ireland DANIELS : Bowdon (Cheshire) GABRIEL : St Helens (Lancs), Liverpool (Lancs) GRATWICH : Barlaston (Staffs) HIGHAM : Lymm (Cheshire), Leigh (Lancs) JOHNSON : Over Peover (Cheshire) JOHNS(T)ON : Wallasey (Cheshire), Birkenhead (Cheshire), Hull (East Riding), Tynemouth (Northumberland), Hebburn/Chester-le-Street/North Shields (Co. Durham/Northumberland) JONES : Whitchurch (Shrops) LEIGH : Lymm (Cheshire) MILLER : Lymm (Cheshire), Grappenhall (Cheshire) MOSTON/MOSSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Over Peover (Cheshire) NORBURY : Liverpool (Lancs) PERCIVAL : Lymm (Cheshire), Antrobus (Cheshire) RICHARDSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Prescot (Lancs) TABERN : St Helens (Lancs) THOMPSON : North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland) WILLIAMSON : Cheshire WINSTANLEY : Lymm (Cheshire) WOOTTON : Barlaston (Staffs), Moddershall (Staffs), Stone (Staffs) I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests. Thanks Tim