Please reply direct to John - not on subscribed list! Helen -----Original Message----- From: John Sanderson [mailto:john@sanderson1506.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 10:57 AM To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} posting interests Hi I am posting my interests in the surname SMITH in the Burton-on-Trent area around 1900. John Sanderson

MARY JANE SMITH daughter of THOMAS SMITH AND MARY SMITH NEE WAITE. Mary possibly born 1839 as 17 when she married on 1856. to Charles Dakin, they were very early settlers to Carterton . New Zealand. I need the family of brothers and sisters of MARY JANE SMITH please. Mary Jane married Charles Dakin at Parish Church. Burton on Trent. Charles came from TUTBURY. I have the cottage which Charles built in Clareville. nz.(1882)..and researching local cemetery where they are buried.. Charles' parents were William Dakin and Francis nee Ordish..now anything on those two surnames please..Ordish I can give you more christian names later, as cousins also came out to NZ with them...ALFRED ORDISH. and Charles? THOMAS SMITH - Mary Jane's father was a commercial traveller in Longton.wonder what business...pottery? What did Charles do before sailing to NZ..addresses, and any information would be great please...into the early lives of our Carterton Early Settlers. Charles' father was a Fellmonger (dealt with skins..) Charles was 28 when married... I am an ex Londoner, researching Early History of Carterton District. secretary of: http://www.geocities.com/carterton_historical_society thoroughly enjoying doing the local history, all information will be made available at a later date in our Museum, for future generations to view. I am doing this research in recognition for what these settlers did for us in 1800s..Remarkable people, they deserve to be known more off..thank you....Pentony..

I am researching the following names - BANKS : Stretton (Cheshire), Manchester (Lancs) BRADBURY : Lymm (Cheshire) BROWNBILL : St Helens (Lancs) CALLAGHAN : St Helens (Lancs), Ireland DANIELS : Bowdon (Cheshire) GABRIEL : St Helens (Lancs), Liverpool (Lancs) GRATWICH : Barlaston (Staffs) HIGHAM : Lymm (Cheshire), Leigh (Lancs) JOHNSON : Over Peover (Cheshire) JOHNS(T)ON : Wallasey (Cheshire), Birkenhead (Cheshire), Hull (East Riding), Tynemouth (Northumberland), Hebburn/Chester-le-Street/North Shields (Co. Durham/Northumberland) JONES : Whitchurch (Shrops) LEIGH : Lymm (Cheshire) MILLER : Lymm (Cheshire), Grappenhall (Cheshire) MOSTON/MOSSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Over Peover (Cheshire) NORBURY : Liverpool (Lancs) PERCIVAL : Lymm (Cheshire), Antrobus (Cheshire) RICHARDSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Prescot (Lancs) TABERN : St Helens (Lancs) THOMPSON : North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland) WILLIAMSON : Cheshire WINSTANLEY : Lymm (Cheshire) WOOTTON : Barlaston (Staffs), Moddershall (Staffs), Stone (Staffs) I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests. Thanks Tim

Thanks for your response Steve but like I said all I have is on the 1881 Francis POTTS - brickmaker aged 45 bn in the Potteries and 1901 Francis POTTS aged 65 -brickmaker bn Lanes End, Staffs. thanks for trying any way ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Stutcinskas Sent: 02 September 2002 18:13 To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: {not a subscriber} Francis POTTS Janet - - This is a tricky one - LANE END in general is the area around St Johns Church LONGTON. However there is a LANE ENDS between PACKMOOR and BRINDLEY FORD ,,,,,, Roughly where the farm is, where the farmer parks his vans on the bend of the road so's no one can pass .........I know it quite well !!!! But which one is yours is hard to say - about 8 miles between the two Steve > > > > I'm still looking for a date of birth Francis POTTS.I think he was born > > around 1836/1837.Possibly the son of Daniel & Ellen POTTS( thjis is what > > I > > need confirmation of). I have been looking for him in Shropshire but I > > am > > now inclined to think that he was most certainly born in the Potteries. > > On 2 > > census' he is listed as being born in Lane End. I now know that Lane > > Ends is > > somewhere around Kidsgrove. > > > > Many thanks > > > > JanetXXX > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > > > > > > >Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Janet, Has subscribed since this mail! Helen -----Original Message----- From: Janet Barry [mailto:j_barry2@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 9:50 PM To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} Francis POTTS Hi everybody I'm still looking for a date of birth Francis POTTS.I think he was born around 1836/1837.Possibly the son of Daniel & Ellen POTTS( thjis is what I need confirmation of). I have been looking for him in Shropshire but I am now inclined to think that he was most certainly born in the Potteries. On 2 census' he is listed as being born in Lane End. I now know that Lane Ends is somewhere around Kidsgrove. Many thanks JanetXXX _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Janet - - This is a tricky one - LANE END in general is the area around St Johns Church LONGTON. However there is a LANE ENDS between PACKMOOR and BRINDLEY FORD ,,,,,, Roughly where the farm is, where the farmer parks his vans on the bend of the road so's no one can pass .........I know it quite well !!!! But which one is yours is hard to say - about 8 miles between the two Steve > > > > I'm still looking for a date of birth Francis POTTS.I think he was born > > around 1836/1837.Possibly the son of Daniel & Ellen POTTS( thjis is what > > I > > need confirmation of). I have been looking for him in Shropshire but I > > am > > now inclined to think that he was most certainly born in the Potteries. > > On 2 > > census' he is listed as being born in Lane End. I now know that Lane > > Ends is > > somewhere around Kidsgrove. > > > > Many thanks > > > > JanetXXX > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > > > > > > >

Hi Janet, Lane End is in fact Longton area, 'Head of the Lane' is at the top end of Bull Lane near Newchapel. Do know of any Lane End in the Kidsgrove area. Regards - Eric, Kidsgrove ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Verrall" <hverrall@ihug.co.nz> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 11:11 AM Subject: FW: {not a subscriber} Francis POTTS > > > Janet, > Has subscribed since this mail! > > Helen > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Janet Barry [mailto:j_barry2@hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 9:50 PM > To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: {not a subscriber} Francis POTTS > > > Hi everybody > > I'm still looking for a date of birth Francis POTTS.I think he was born > around 1836/1837.Possibly the son of Daniel & Ellen POTTS( thjis is what > I > need confirmation of). I have been looking for him in Shropshire but I > am > now inclined to think that he was most certainly born in the Potteries. > On 2 > census' he is listed as being born in Lane End. I now know that Lane > Ends is > somewhere around Kidsgrove. > > Many thanks > > JanetXXX > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > >

Friends Noting the number of queries regarding errors and the reporting of ,I made some enquiries - You can - go to the "Contact Us" page you can notify the PRO of errors. But they will need the full reference information. You can't just go on "It should be" Also - contact addresses - but again- full details will be required for the complaint to have any effect. Census contact details: For comments about the census site, please contact the Census Helpdesk on: +44 (0) 1684 585299 Email: support@censushelpdesk.com.uk Helen M Verrall Temporary List Administrator Staffordshire Potteries Pubs and Inn Deserted Villages mailto:hverrall@ihug.co.nz or mailto:[List Name]-admin@rootsweb.com

As promised the next update from Archive CD Books NB The free directory with the Census offer ceases at midnight (BST) 1 September. But the Free Directory for first time orders to ACDB will remain open at present. Access at http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/books/census/index.htm Helen -----Original Message----- From: Rod Neep [mailto:rod.neep@archivecdbooks.org] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 12:44 PM To: CDBOOKS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CDBOOKS] 1861 Census CD Project Report - Archive CD Books - 29 Aug. Archive CD Books 1861 Census CD Project Report - 29 August. In keeping with my policy of keeping you in touch with what is happening with the Archive CD Books 1861 census CD projects, I can now report the following: The Top 10 by numbers of sales price ===== Nottinghamshire 35.00 was 40.00 Cornwall 30.00 was 35.00 Dorset 20.00 Devon 47.00 was 52.00 Norfolk 33.00 was 35.00 Essex 30.00 was 31.00 Lincolnshire 40.00 was 42.00 Middlesex 20.00 Gloucestershire 35.00 was 37.00 Staffordshire 80.00 was 85.00 and the bottom 3 price Bedfordshire 20.00 Northumberland 49.00 Oxfordshire 20.00 It is obvious that price does not necessarily affect number of advance orders, as illustrated by two of the worst sellers, Bedfordshire and Oxfordshire. In fact, Oxfordshire is so *far* short of covering its costs at this stage that I may even consider cutting my losses and scrapping it. If that happens I'll have a set of films that I don't know what to do with. Bedfordshire does not worry me, as although the orders are low, the costs are also low. Oxfordshire and Northumberland do cause me concern. I know why advance orders are very low. And that concerns me even more. =================================================================== COVERING INITIAL COSTS - AND PRICE REDUCTIONS Although *numbers* of advance orders are interesting, to me, the real factor is how close they are to covering their initial costs. That is the point at which prices can begin to be reduced. start current price price Cornwall 35.00 30.00 Dorset 20.00 (already minimum price) Nottinghamshire 40.00 35.00 Norfolk 35.00 33.00 * Staffordshire 85.00 80.00 * Essex 31.00 30.00 * Gloucestershire 37.00 35.00 * Lincolnshire 42.00 40.00 * Pembrokeshire 20.00 (already minimum price) Middlesex 20.00 (already minimum price) All of the above have now reached their first target. That of covering the initial costs. (Those costs still do not include the costs of making the CDs). * denotes new reductions today. ======================================================================== == ! Remember, *everyone* pays the final lowest price. ! The more advance orders, the lower the price will become. ! It will be *very* much easier to reach the next target and reduce the prices further. Those with reduced prices can still reduce further when more advance orders are received! ======================================================================== == Note that Devon, which does not appear now in my list above, has already been reduced in price from 52.00 to 47.00. Therefore it no longer appears in my own top 10, as it is now running at a small loss. What I am doing at this stage, is to sometimes purposely *over-reduce* the price once its first target has been reached. Therefore as soon as the price is reduced, it alters the order in *my* top 10. The counties that are now close to reaching their first target, and therefore to have their first price reduction are (in this order): current price Kent 52.00 Suffolk 31.00 Devon 47.00 Started at 52.00 already reduced to 47.00 now close to another reduction. Derbyshire 32.00 Leicestershire 22.00 Durham 48.00 I have purposely omitted those that are already at GBP 20.00 as that is probably going to be my minimum price for any census CD set. (I may change my mind if they reach a higher number of advance orders though). Those further away from their first reduction (by meeting their first target of covering their initial costs) are: Sussex at 76% of first target Hampshire 75% Worcestershire 71% Warwickshire 71% Cheshire 69% Northumberland 50% SUMMARY After a week and a half since the 1861 census project was announced, I am starting to become happier ;-) I am happy with 17 of the counties (out of the 27), but unhappy with 2 of the counties. Staffordshire, the expensive one, has now come through its first target and the price has started to reduce. I have every faith that I will be able to reduce the prices on all of those that have not yet been reduced yet, and every faith that those that have already been reduced will be reduced further. It is still very early days as yet. There is only one way that prices will be reduced further, and that is by people placing advance orders. You folks can set the price. However, if you wait to see what happens, then it won't happen! As an added incentive: 1. For all advance orders received by midnight Sunday September 1 (British time! - and it is a *strict deadline*) you will receive a FREE CD of a relevant county directory. Order two counties, get two free directories. 2. We are still running the special offer for new buyers from the Archive CD Books Project. With your first order, you will get a FREE copy of the superb *1791 Universal British Directory*. That's 5 large books which cover all of England & Wales! Worth GBP 29.74! You won't wait for the census CDs to be released, the free one will be sent out immediately to you! (Note: if you are a new buyer then you get both the 1791 Directory *and* the relevant county directory free!) See the census Project web page at: http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/books/census/index.htm For more details and latest updates Regards, and thanks for your support. Rod Neep -- ARCHIVE CD BOOKS - A project to reproduce old books on CD for genealogists and pay for the restoration of books in Record Offices, Libraries, etc. Mailing list : CDBOOKS-L@rootsweb.com (for discussions) Weekly News : CDBOOKS-NEWS-L@rootsweb.com (weekly announcements & news) E-mail : enquiries@archivecdbooks.org Web : http://www.archivecdbooks.org ==== CDBOOKS Mailing List ==== The Archive CD Books Project http://www.archivecdbooks.org For the weekly newsletter subscribe to CDBOOKS-NEWS-L-request@rootsweb.com

Hi to everyone, I've been trying to find any information on my G.Grandparents,Thomas and Catherine Alford/Allford,nee Curless.They lived in Tunstall,though Catherine was born in Goldenhill.Thomas was born about 1874 and Catherine about 1878. Both of their sets of parents were from Ireland,according to the 1881 census,and I'm sure that one of them, if not both were Catholic. If anyone has any advice or information on either of the families,PLEASE get in touch, Best Wishes, Helen.

He is possibly a groom from Ireland who came down Hollyhead Road to Stoke on Trent with some horses and stayed (family tradition) The Irish are Roman Catholics Descendants of Irish Riley 1 Irish Riley - Unknown ........ 2 Mitchell (Michael) Riley 1850 - Unknown born IRELAND Coal Carter ............ +Harriet Ann Kent 1854 - Unknown Hanley or Eutruria ................... 3 Annie Riley 1877 - Unknown ................... 3 Thomas Riley 1880 - Unknown ................... 3 William Riley 1882 - Unknown ................... 3 John Riley 1884 - Unknown ................... 3 George Riley 1889 - Unknown ................... 3 Henry Riley 1889 - 1901 ................... 3 Samuel Ernest Riley 1896 7 Toll Street, Hanley - 1967 ....................... +Mary Grannon 1902 - 1952 <<< parents <<< John Grannon +Maria Duffey both Roscommon Ireland .............................. 4 Samuel Riley 1920 - 1992 .................................. +Winnie Potts Private - ......................................... 5 Karen Riley Private - ......................................... 5 Lorraine Riley Private - .............................. 4 Margeret Mary (Peggy) Riley Private - .................................. +Douglas Goodwin Private - ......................................... 5 Mary Goodwin Private - ......................................... 5 Patrick Goodwin Private - .............................. 4 George Patrick Riley 1925 - 1982 .................................. +Annie Forrester Private - <<< see below ......................................... 5 Christine Ann (Chris) Riley Private - ............................................. +Hugh Bartley Watkins Private - .................................................... 6 Claire Louise Blanche Watkins Private - ......................................... *2nd Husband of Christine Ann (Chris) Riley: ............................................. +Cyril Raymond Anthony (Anthony Watkins) Bowdler Private - .................................................... 6 Heidi Ingrid Christina Watkins Private - ........................................................ +Lee Chapman Private - .............................................................. 7 Colette Anne Louise Watkins Private - ......................................... 5 Patricia Mary (Pat) Riley Private - ............................................. +Alan Desmond Peter Glyn Walters Private - .................................................... 6 Nicola Jayne Walters Private - .................................................... 6 Peter Alan Walters Private - ......................................... *2nd Husband of Patricia Mary (Pat) Riley: ............................................. +Barry Little Private - .................................................... 6 Michael George William Little Private - .............................. 4 May Riley Private - .................................. +Fred Robinson Private - ......................................... 5 Patricia Robinson Private - ......................................... 5 Frederick Robinson Private - ......................................... 5 Adam Robinson Private - .............................. 4 Michael Riley Private - .................................. +Grace Forrester Private - ......................................... 5 Michael John Riley Private - ......................................... 5 Grace Mary Riley Private - ......................................... 5 Margaret Riley Private - ......................................... 5 David Riley Private - .............................. 4 Karen Riley Private - .............................. 4 Lorraine Riley Private - ................... 3 Frederick Riley 1898 - Unknown ______________ Descendants of John Forrester 1 John Forrester 1848 - Unknown . +Elizabeth 1847 - Unknown ........ 2 Harriet Forrester 1870 - Unknown ........ 2 Elizabeth Forrester 1871 - Unknown ........ 2 Rose Forrester 1873 - Unknown ........ 2 Annie Forrester 1875 - Unknown ........ 2 Arthur Forrester 1877 - Unknown ........ 2 William Forrester 1881 - Unknown ............ +Martha Ann Johnson 1881 - 1953 <<<<< ................... 3 John William (Jack / Bill ) Forrester 1903 - 1975 ....................... +Minnie Pyatt 1906 - 1952 <<< .............................. 4 Grace Forrester Private - .................................. +Michael Riley Private - ......................................... 5 Michael John Riley Private - ......................................... 5 Grace Mary Riley Private - ......................................... 5 Margaret Riley Private - ......................................... 5 David Riley Private - .............................. 4 Minnie Forrester Private - .................................. +John Herbert Lovatt Private - .............................. *2nd Husband of Minnie Forrester: .................................. +Frank Brown 1927 - 1991 ......................................... 5 Stephen John Brown Private - ............................................. +Carol Xxxx Private - .................................................... 6 Andrew Brown Private - .................................................... 6 Jennifer Brown Private - ........................................................ +Unknown Ccccc Private - .............................................................. 7 Jacob Ccccc Private - ......................................... 5 Gillian Brown Private - ............................................. +John Yyyyyyy Private - .................................................... 6 Mark Yyyyyyy Private - ......................................... *2nd Husband of Gillian Brown: ............................................. +Michael Smeiskowsky Private - .................................................... 6 Robert Smeiskowsky Private - .................................................... 6 Anna Smeiskowsky Private - ......................................... 5 Julie Brown Private - ............................................. +Unknown Zzzzzz Private - .................................................... 6 Gemma Zzzzzz Private - ......................................... *2nd Husband of Julie Brown: ............................................. +Unkown Bbbbbbb Private - .................................................... 6 Paul Bbbbbbb Private - ......................................... 5 Caroline Brown Private - ............................................. +Christopher Keen Private - .................................................... 6 Thomas Keen Private - .................................................... 6 James Keen Private - .............................. 4 Annie Forrester Private - .................................. +George Patrick Riley 1925 - 1982 .......................................- .............................. 4 John Forrester 1935 - 1936 .............................. 4 James Forrester 1936 - 1936 .............................. 4 Joan Forrester 1938 - 1939 .............................. 4 still born Forrester 1939 - 1939 .............................. 4 Joan Forrester Private - .................................. +Alan Kelsall Private - ......................................... 5 Philip Kelsall Private - ......................................... 5 Judith Kelsall Private - ......................................... 5 Andew Kelsall Private - .............................. 4 John Forrester 1942 - 1998 .............................. 4 Graham Forrester Private - .................................. +Jennifer Private - ......................................... 5 Simon Forrester Private - ......................................... 5 Nicholas Forrester Private - .............................. 4 Pauline Forrester Private - ................... *2nd Wife of John William (Jack / Bill ) Forrester: ....................... +Louise May Sharrock 1906 - 1970 ................... 3 Annie Forrester Private - ....................... +Bill Clarke Private - ................... 3 Ernest Forrester Private - ....................... +Edith Private - ................... 3 Joe Forrester Private - ....................... +Doris Private - ................... 3 Arthur Forrester 1911 - Unknown ........ 2 Mary Forrester 1883 - Unknown ........ 2 Florence Forrester 1885 - Unknown ........ 2 Eliza Forrester 1887 - Unknown ........ 2 Edna Forrester 1889 - Unknown Descendants of Thomas Pyatt 1 Thomas Pyatt 1851 - Unknown . +Charlotte 1851 - Unknown ........ 2 John Pyatt 1865 - Unknown ........ 2 James Pyatt 1869 - Unknown ............ +Louisa Priscilla Harrison 1878 - Unknown ................... 3 Minnie Pyatt 1906 - 1952 ....................... +John William (Jack / Bill ) Forrester 1903 - 1975 .............................. 4 Grace Forrester Private - .................................. +Michael Riley Private - - .............................. ................... 3 Grace Pyatt Private - ................... 3 Elizabeth Pyatt Private - ................... 3 Loise Pyatt Private - ................... 3 Dolly Pyatt Private - ................... 3 Albert Pyatt Private - ................... 3 Bill Pyatt Private - ................... 3 Joe Pyatt Private - ................... 3 Jack Pyatt Private - ................... 3 James Pyatt 1899 - Unknown ................... 3 William Pyatt 1901 - Unknown ........ 2 Elizabeth Pyatt 1871 - Unknown ........ 2 Sarah Pyatt 1873 - Unknown ........ 2 William Pyatt 1874 - Unknown ........ 2 Thomas Pyatt 1877 - Unknown ........ 2 Mary Pyatt 1880 - Unknown Well descendamts cousins and ancestors wanted many of them were miners and only lived to be 45 to 55 and infant mortality was acute in 1930ies all eight grand paents of CAR but only four great grndparents found yet some of the Riley and Forrester graves are known thanks Hugh WGet more from the Web. 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Once again, thank you George. Blessings on you, my Jaquiss genie angel. If SKS has any information about these couples or about Jaqu*s or research guidance please contact me. I appreciate your sending these. Obviously Benjamin & Hannah Jaquiss nee Cooper are my 3x great grandparents. Somehow I had everything but the name of the church. All I had was "parish church". Richard & Harriet Jaquiss nee Hallam were Ben & Hannah's first born and his wife. I had been given this once before but I'll have to try to find the witnesses. I'm not sure about the rest yet but we have an Issachar b 1764 purported brother to Benjamin so perhaps the Issachar below is his son or in some way not yet known related. Another branch of the family (brothers to Benjamin's father Thomas) have quite a lot of John's but I wasn't aware they went to Suffolk - but who knows. As for Sarah we have heard of Jaquiss' in Warwickshire but I don't have them tied into our tree yet. So you did it again. And I thank you for sharing. I do appreciate this information. Every little bit helps. I am sharing this with other Jaqu*s reseachers so all your good deeds shall be as widely as possible appreciated. TIA ~ Deborah in the Maryland suburbs of Washington, DC, USA Hi Deborah, Marriages from the BVRI 2 Benjamin Jaquiss - Hannah Cooper 14 Feb 1801 St Giles Newcastle under Lyne Staffordshire William Emery - Sarah Jaquiss 18 Feb 1805 Austry Warwickshire Issachar Jaquiss - Harriet Trolley 27 Dec 1824 St Mary le Wigford Lincoln Lincolnshire John Jaquiss - Sarah haselton 6 Feb 1828 Suffolk Richard Jaquiss - Harriet Hallam 1 Nov 1834 St Michael Stone Staffordshire.

Heather The 1861 Census Cd Sets are available for each county ( with a few exceptions- Staffordshire Set included the Potteries. At present there no was pre-order and pay by cheque. You would need to wait until the Set you want is released then send in a order. Most of the information you need to on this site http://www.archivecdbooks.org/ Go to NEW Census Records and there is all the information.. Hope that helps Helen Helen M Verrall Temporary List Administrator Staffordshire Potteries Pubs and Inn Deserted Villages mailto:hverrall@ihug.co.nz or [List Name]-admin@rootsweb.com -----Original Message----- From: FRENCHFrenchies@aol.com [mailto:FRENCHFrenchies@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, 21 August 2002 13:16 To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D Digest V02 #195 Is the 1861 census for all of England or just the Potteries. I don't have a credit card, can it be paid by cheque? Heather French

Is the 1861 census for all of England or just the Potteries. I don't have a credit card, can it be paid by cheque? Heather French

Friends Rod has just reminded me that , for first time purchasers from ArchiveCDBooks the following is still applicable - and includes pre-orders of the 1861 census. Cd's. =======================" the FREE CD of the 1791 Universal British Directory is still on offer to all first time buyers from Archive CD Books. That means if they order the census now, then they *immediately* receive the free CD.... (Normal price GBP 29.74) and post free anywhere in the world. They don't have to wait for the census set to be posted. Helen Helen M Verrall Temporary List Administrator Staffordshire Potteries Pubs and Inn Deserted Villages mailto:hverrall@ihug.co.nz or [List Name]-admin@rootsweb.com

Anne Yes, that you have received this message- means you are subscribed to Potteries List. STS List is having problems, I have check the subscription list and you are also subscribed to the Staffordshire List!! Helen Helen M Verrall Temporary List Administrator Staffordshire Potteries Pubs and Inn Deserted Villages Mail: hverrall@ihug.co.nz -----Original Message----- From: Ann Simcock [mailto:ann.simcock@virgin.net] Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2002 19:05 To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: 1861 CENSUS on CD Dear Helen, thank you for the message. Where is the 1861 census obtained from as I have not seen it advertised. Also as I have received this message does it mean that I am still subscribed to the Potteries list. I think that I am having trouble you mentioned with the Staffs list so I had better resubscribe to that. Thanks Ann Simcock. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Verrall" <hverrall@ihug.co.nz> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 12:40 AM Subject: 1861 CENSUS on CD > Thought you would interested in this - > > Note the more who buy Staffordshire, the more likely the price is to > come down. > > Helen > > > > NEW CENSUS CDs FROM THE ARCHIVE CD BOOKS PROJECT > > I have now finalised on a list of censuses (for the first batch) that > will be released by the Archive CD Books Project. (Most are for 1861, > and some are for 1891). > > RG 9/985-1015 Bedfordshire 1861 > RG 9/4110-4145 Carmarthenshire 1861 > RG 9/4328-4360 Carnarvonshire 1861 > RG 9/2556-2649 Cheshire 1861 > RG 9/1512-1600 Cornwall 1861 > RG 9/2487-2555 Derbyshire 1861 > RG 12/2719-2787 Derbyshire 1891 > RG 9/1370-1511 Devon 1861 > RG 9/1325-1369 Dorset 1861 > RG 9/3678-3809 Durham 1861 > RG 9/1054-1123 Essex 1861 > RG 9/1712-1807 Gloucestershire 1861 > RG 9/631-718 Hampshire 1861 > RG 9/462-556 Kent 1861 > RG 9/2244-2304 Leicestershire 1861 > RG 9/2311-2411 Lincolnshire 1861 > RG 12/2552-2637 Lincolnshire 1891 > RG 9/762-802 Middlesex 1861 > RG 9/1190-1267 Norfolk 1861 > RG 9/3810-3896 Northumberland 1861 > RG 9/2435-2486 Nottinghamshire 1861 > RG 12/2638-2718 Nottinghamshire 1891 > RG 9/880-920 Oxfordshire 1861 > RG 9/4146-4172 Pembrokeshire 1861 > RG 9/1601-1711 Somerset 1861 > RG 9/1905-2062 Staffordshire 1861 > RG 9/1124-1189 Suffolk 1861 > RG 9/557-630 Sussex 1861 > RG 9/2128-2243 Warwickshire 1861 > RG 9/2063-2127 Worcestershire 1861 > (more are scheduled) > > I am very proud of the superb quality of the scanned images. > We have worked from really excellent films (not microfiche) copied from > the first generation films at the PRO, and have then used the very best > possible film scanner currently available to digitise the images at a > high resolution. That's £45,000 worth of scanner. QUALITY. > > Using Adobe Acrobat Reader you can zoom in and in to read the pages. You > really don't have to squint to read the them. > > Zoom in to 100% without any loss of detail. That's because of the very > high quality of the scanning. Yes, that's right..... UP TO 100% (and > beyond). The detail is perfectly readable at a much lower magnification > of course. Rather than digitise to a lower quality and then have > magnification and distortion start to make it hard to read, we have > given you the best QUALITY to start with. > > Print quality is excellent too! Even on a standard bubble jet printer > you can get superb results. You can print first class copies of any page > for use in your family history documents. QUALITY > > DO print out pages of the census enumerator's books to include in your > family history files. Not only are they the proof to support your > research, but other family members find it absolutely fascinating to see > these actual old original documents (no matter how sceptical they may be > about your hobby). > > Download the samples from the project web page, and see for yourself. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Advance orders will be accepted, but credit cards will not charged until > the CDs are ready for despatch. > > Orders placed in advance will be charged at the stated price or *less*. > That's right... or LESS. > > IMPORTANT. READ THIS > > With some of the sets, I have a very good idea of the quantities that > may sell. With those, the price has now been fixed, to cover the costs. > The final price *may* reduce a little. > > BUT > Some of the sets are subject to sufficient advance orders being > received. > > The maximum price of these if you order now will be shown. The more > advance orders over 100 that we receive, the cheaper the final price > will become, and everyone pays the cheaper price. Some of these projects > are very large and very expensive to produce. Prices are based on the > anticipated number of sales of each set (which varies from county to > county). > > The object of the exercise is to make the censuses *available*, and > *not* to make huge profits. That is one of the basic principles of the > Archive CD Books Project. Therefore, the more people who pre-order those > marked as such, then the cheaper the price will become - for everybody! > I hope that you like this idea! > > For example, if the stated "starting price" of a particular county is > 50.00 and lots more people order before the final release date, then the > finishing price could become substantially lower. Say, 30.00. Whatever > happens, then *everyone* will be charged at the lower price. Credit > cards will not charged until the CDs are made and ready for despatch. > > It is in everyone's interest to place advance orders early. > > For more details, samples and prices, see: > http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/books/census/index.htm > > So.... go and have a look, and then please do tell your friends on the > relevant mailing lists. The more that order in advance, the cheaper they > become! > > Regards > Rod Neep > -- > > ARCHIVE CD BOOKS - > A project to reproduce old books on CD for genealogists > and pay for the restoration of books in Record Offices, Libraries, etc. > Mailing list : CDBOOKS-L@rootsweb.com (for discussions) Weekly News : > CDBOOKS-NEWS-L@rootsweb.com (weekly announcements & news) > E-mail : enquiries@archivecdbooks.org > Web : http://www.archivecdbooks.org > > > > ==== CDBOOKS Mailing List ==== > The Archive CD Books Project http://www.archivecdbooks.org > For the weekly newsletter subscribe to > CDBOOKS-NEWS-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > Helen M Verrall > Lower Hutt > New Zealand > Email: hverrall@ihug.co.nz > > > > >

Hi, list, I have bought several CD's from Ron 's ARCHIVE CD catalog, and have been very pleased. The price is reasonable , even for shipping to the US, so don't hesitate if you find something you want. Ann Atherton, USA Searching JOHNSON and HARLEY in Staffordshire ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Verrall" <hverrall@ihug.co.nz> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 7:40 PM Subject: 1861 CENSUS on CD > Thought you would interested in this - > > Note the more who buy Staffordshire, the more likely the price is to > come down. > > Helen > > > > NEW CENSUS CDs FROM THE ARCHIVE CD BOOKS PROJECT > > I have now finalised on a list of censuses (for the first batch) that > will be released by the Archive CD Books Project. (Most are for 1861, > and some are for 1891). > > RG 9/985-1015 Bedfordshire 1861 > RG 9/4110-4145 Carmarthenshire 1861 > RG 9/4328-4360 Carnarvonshire 1861 > RG 9/2556-2649 Cheshire 1861 > RG 9/1512-1600 Cornwall 1861 > RG 9/2487-2555 Derbyshire 1861 > RG 12/2719-2787 Derbyshire 1891 > RG 9/1370-1511 Devon 1861 > RG 9/1325-1369 Dorset 1861 > RG 9/3678-3809 Durham 1861 > RG 9/1054-1123 Essex 1861 > RG 9/1712-1807 Gloucestershire 1861 > RG 9/631-718 Hampshire 1861 > RG 9/462-556 Kent 1861 > RG 9/2244-2304 Leicestershire 1861 > RG 9/2311-2411 Lincolnshire 1861 > RG 12/2552-2637 Lincolnshire 1891 > RG 9/762-802 Middlesex 1861 > RG 9/1190-1267 Norfolk 1861 > RG 9/3810-3896 Northumberland 1861 > RG 9/2435-2486 Nottinghamshire 1861 > RG 12/2638-2718 Nottinghamshire 1891 > RG 9/880-920 Oxfordshire 1861 > RG 9/4146-4172 Pembrokeshire 1861 > RG 9/1601-1711 Somerset 1861 > RG 9/1905-2062 Staffordshire 1861 > RG 9/1124-1189 Suffolk 1861 > RG 9/557-630 Sussex 1861 > RG 9/2128-2243 Warwickshire 1861 > RG 9/2063-2127 Worcestershire 1861 > (more are scheduled) > > I am very proud of the superb quality of the scanned images. > We have worked from really excellent films (not microfiche) copied from > the first generation films at the PRO, and have then used the very best > possible film scanner currently available to digitise the images at a > high resolution. That's £45,000 worth of scanner. QUALITY. > > Using Adobe Acrobat Reader you can zoom in and in to read the pages. You > really don't have to squint to read the them. > > Zoom in to 100% without any loss of detail. That's because of the very > high quality of the scanning. Yes, that's right..... UP TO 100% (and > beyond). The detail is perfectly readable at a much lower magnification > of course. Rather than digitise to a lower quality and then have > magnification and distortion start to make it hard to read, we have > given you the best QUALITY to start with. > > Print quality is excellent too! Even on a standard bubble jet printer > you can get superb results. You can print first class copies of any page > for use in your family history documents. QUALITY > > DO print out pages of the census enumerator's books to include in your > family history files. Not only are they the proof to support your > research, but other family members find it absolutely fascinating to see > these actual old original documents (no matter how sceptical they may be > about your hobby). > > Download the samples from the project web page, and see for yourself. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Advance orders will be accepted, but credit cards will not charged until > the CDs are ready for despatch. > > Orders placed in advance will be charged at the stated price or *less*. > That's right... or LESS. > > IMPORTANT. READ THIS > > With some of the sets, I have a very good idea of the quantities that > may sell. With those, the price has now been fixed, to cover the costs. > The final price *may* reduce a little. > > BUT > Some of the sets are subject to sufficient advance orders being > received. > > The maximum price of these if you order now will be shown. The more > advance orders over 100 that we receive, the cheaper the final price > will become, and everyone pays the cheaper price. Some of these projects > are very large and very expensive to produce. Prices are based on the > anticipated number of sales of each set (which varies from county to > county). > > The object of the exercise is to make the censuses *available*, and > *not* to make huge profits. That is one of the basic principles of the > Archive CD Books Project. Therefore, the more people who pre-order those > marked as such, then the cheaper the price will become - for everybody! > I hope that you like this idea! > > For example, if the stated "starting price" of a particular county is > 50.00 and lots more people order before the final release date, then the > finishing price could become substantially lower. Say, 30.00. Whatever > happens, then *everyone* will be charged at the lower price. Credit > cards will not charged until the CDs are made and ready for despatch. > > It is in everyone's interest to place advance orders early. > > For more details, samples and prices, see: > http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/books/census/index.htm > > So.... go and have a look, and then please do tell your friends on the > relevant mailing lists. The more that order in advance, the cheaper they > become! > > Regards > Rod Neep > -- > > ARCHIVE CD BOOKS - > A project to reproduce old books on CD for genealogists > and pay for the restoration of books in Record Offices, Libraries, etc. > Mailing list : CDBOOKS-L@rootsweb.com (for discussions) Weekly News : > CDBOOKS-NEWS-L@rootsweb.com (weekly announcements & news) > E-mail : enquiries@archivecdbooks.org > Web : http://www.archivecdbooks.org > > > > ==== CDBOOKS Mailing List ==== > The Archive CD Books Project http://www.archivecdbooks.org > For the weekly newsletter subscribe to > CDBOOKS-NEWS-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > Helen M Verrall > Lower Hutt > New Zealand > Email: hverrall@ihug.co.nz > > > > >

Thought you would interested in this – Note the more who buy Staffordshire, the more likely the price is to come down. Helen NEW CENSUS CDs FROM THE ARCHIVE CD BOOKS PROJECT I have now finalised on a list of censuses (for the first batch) that will be released by the Archive CD Books Project. (Most are for 1861, and some are for 1891). RG 9/985-1015 Bedfordshire 1861 RG 9/4110-4145 Carmarthenshire 1861 RG 9/4328-4360 Carnarvonshire 1861 RG 9/2556-2649 Cheshire 1861 RG 9/1512-1600 Cornwall 1861 RG 9/2487-2555 Derbyshire 1861 RG 12/2719-2787 Derbyshire 1891 RG 9/1370-1511 Devon 1861 RG 9/1325-1369 Dorset 1861 RG 9/3678-3809 Durham 1861 RG 9/1054-1123 Essex 1861 RG 9/1712-1807 Gloucestershire 1861 RG 9/631-718 Hampshire 1861 RG 9/462-556 Kent 1861 RG 9/2244-2304 Leicestershire 1861 RG 9/2311-2411 Lincolnshire 1861 RG 12/2552-2637 Lincolnshire 1891 RG 9/762-802 Middlesex 1861 RG 9/1190-1267 Norfolk 1861 RG 9/3810-3896 Northumberland 1861 RG 9/2435-2486 Nottinghamshire 1861 RG 12/2638-2718 Nottinghamshire 1891 RG 9/880-920 Oxfordshire 1861 RG 9/4146-4172 Pembrokeshire 1861 RG 9/1601-1711 Somerset 1861 RG 9/1905-2062 Staffordshire 1861 RG 9/1124-1189 Suffolk 1861 RG 9/557-630 Sussex 1861 RG 9/2128-2243 Warwickshire 1861 RG 9/2063-2127 Worcestershire 1861 (more are scheduled) I am very proud of the superb quality of the scanned images. We have worked from really excellent films (not microfiche) copied from the first generation films at the PRO, and have then used the very best possible film scanner currently available to digitise the images at a high resolution. That's £45,000 worth of scanner. QUALITY. Using Adobe Acrobat Reader you can zoom in and in to read the pages. You really don't have to squint to read the them. Zoom in to 100% without any loss of detail. That's because of the very high quality of the scanning. Yes, that's right..... UP TO 100% (and beyond). The detail is perfectly readable at a much lower magnification of course. Rather than digitise to a lower quality and then have magnification and distortion start to make it hard to read, we have given you the best QUALITY to start with. Print quality is excellent too! Even on a standard bubble jet printer you can get superb results. You can print first class copies of any page for use in your family history documents. QUALITY DO print out pages of the census enumerator's books to include in your family history files. Not only are they the proof to support your research, but other family members find it absolutely fascinating to see these actual old original documents (no matter how sceptical they may be about your hobby). Download the samples from the project web page, and see for yourself. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Advance orders will be accepted, but credit cards will not charged until the CDs are ready for despatch. Orders placed in advance will be charged at the stated price or *less*. That's right... or LESS. IMPORTANT. READ THIS With some of the sets, I have a very good idea of the quantities that may sell. With those, the price has now been fixed, to cover the costs. The final price *may* reduce a little. BUT Some of the sets are subject to sufficient advance orders being received. The maximum price of these if you order now will be shown. The more advance orders over 100 that we receive, the cheaper the final price will become, and everyone pays the cheaper price. Some of these projects are very large and very expensive to produce. Prices are based on the anticipated number of sales of each set (which varies from county to county). The object of the exercise is to make the censuses *available*, and *not* to make huge profits. That is one of the basic principles of the Archive CD Books Project. Therefore, the more people who pre-order those marked as such, then the cheaper the price will become - for everybody! I hope that you like this idea! For example, if the stated "starting price" of a particular county is 50.00 and lots more people order before the final release date, then the finishing price could become substantially lower. Say, 30.00. Whatever happens, then *everyone* will be charged at the lower price. Credit cards will not charged until the CDs are made and ready for despatch. It is in everyone's interest to place advance orders early. For more details, samples and prices, see: http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/books/census/index.htm So.... go and have a look, and then please do tell your friends on the relevant mailing lists. The more that order in advance, the cheaper they become! Regards Rod Neep -- ARCHIVE CD BOOKS - A project to reproduce old books on CD for genealogists and pay for the restoration of books in Record Offices, Libraries, etc. Mailing list : CDBOOKS-L@rootsweb.com (for discussions) Weekly News : CDBOOKS-NEWS-L@rootsweb.com (weekly announcements & news) E-mail : enquiries@archivecdbooks.org Web : http://www.archivecdbooks.org ==== CDBOOKS Mailing List ==== The Archive CD Books Project http://www.archivecdbooks.org For the weekly newsletter subscribe to CDBOOKS-NEWS-L-request@rootsweb.com Helen M Verrall Lower Hutt New Zealand Email: hverrall@ihug.co.nz

Dear Helen, thank you for the message. Where is the 1861 census obtained from as I have not seen it advertised. Also as I have received this message does it mean that I am still subscribed to the Potteries list. I think that I am having trouble you mentioned with the Staffs list so I had better resubscribe to that. Thanks Ann Simcock. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Verrall" <hverrall@ihug.co.nz> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 12:40 AM Subject: 1861 CENSUS on CD > Thought you would interested in this - > > Note the more who buy Staffordshire, the more likely the price is to > come down. > > Helen > > > > NEW CENSUS CDs FROM THE ARCHIVE CD BOOKS PROJECT > > I have now finalised on a list of censuses (for the first batch) that > will be released by the Archive CD Books Project. (Most are for 1861, > and some are for 1891). > > RG 9/985-1015 Bedfordshire 1861 > RG 9/4110-4145 Carmarthenshire 1861 > RG 9/4328-4360 Carnarvonshire 1861 > RG 9/2556-2649 Cheshire 1861 > RG 9/1512-1600 Cornwall 1861 > RG 9/2487-2555 Derbyshire 1861 > RG 12/2719-2787 Derbyshire 1891 > RG 9/1370-1511 Devon 1861 > RG 9/1325-1369 Dorset 1861 > RG 9/3678-3809 Durham 1861 > RG 9/1054-1123 Essex 1861 > RG 9/1712-1807 Gloucestershire 1861 > RG 9/631-718 Hampshire 1861 > RG 9/462-556 Kent 1861 > RG 9/2244-2304 Leicestershire 1861 > RG 9/2311-2411 Lincolnshire 1861 > RG 12/2552-2637 Lincolnshire 1891 > RG 9/762-802 Middlesex 1861 > RG 9/1190-1267 Norfolk 1861 > RG 9/3810-3896 Northumberland 1861 > RG 9/2435-2486 Nottinghamshire 1861 > RG 12/2638-2718 Nottinghamshire 1891 > RG 9/880-920 Oxfordshire 1861 > RG 9/4146-4172 Pembrokeshire 1861 > RG 9/1601-1711 Somerset 1861 > RG 9/1905-2062 Staffordshire 1861 > RG 9/1124-1189 Suffolk 1861 > RG 9/557-630 Sussex 1861 > RG 9/2128-2243 Warwickshire 1861 > RG 9/2063-2127 Worcestershire 1861 > (more are scheduled) > > I am very proud of the superb quality of the scanned images. > We have worked from really excellent films (not microfiche) copied from > the first generation films at the PRO, and have then used the very best > possible film scanner currently available to digitise the images at a > high resolution. That's £45,000 worth of scanner. QUALITY. > > Using Adobe Acrobat Reader you can zoom in and in to read the pages. You > really don't have to squint to read the them. > > Zoom in to 100% without any loss of detail. That's because of the very > high quality of the scanning. Yes, that's right..... UP TO 100% (and > beyond). The detail is perfectly readable at a much lower magnification > of course. Rather than digitise to a lower quality and then have > magnification and distortion start to make it hard to read, we have > given you the best QUALITY to start with. > > Print quality is excellent too! Even on a standard bubble jet printer > you can get superb results. You can print first class copies of any page > for use in your family history documents. QUALITY > > DO print out pages of the census enumerator's books to include in your > family history files. Not only are they the proof to support your > research, but other family members find it absolutely fascinating to see > these actual old original documents (no matter how sceptical they may be > about your hobby). > > Download the samples from the project web page, and see for yourself. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Advance orders will be accepted, but credit cards will not charged until > the CDs are ready for despatch. > > Orders placed in advance will be charged at the stated price or *less*. > That's right... or LESS. > > IMPORTANT. READ THIS > > With some of the sets, I have a very good idea of the quantities that > may sell. With those, the price has now been fixed, to cover the costs. > The final price *may* reduce a little. > > BUT > Some of the sets are subject to sufficient advance orders being > received. > > The maximum price of these if you order now will be shown. The more > advance orders over 100 that we receive, the cheaper the final price > will become, and everyone pays the cheaper price. Some of these projects > are very large and very expensive to produce. Prices are based on the > anticipated number of sales of each set (which varies from county to > county). > > The object of the exercise is to make the censuses *available*, and > *not* to make huge profits. That is one of the basic principles of the > Archive CD Books Project. Therefore, the more people who pre-order those > marked as such, then the cheaper the price will become - for everybody! > I hope that you like this idea! > > For example, if the stated "starting price" of a particular county is > 50.00 and lots more people order before the final release date, then the > finishing price could become substantially lower. Say, 30.00. Whatever > happens, then *everyone* will be charged at the lower price. Credit > cards will not charged until the CDs are made and ready for despatch. > > It is in everyone's interest to place advance orders early. > > For more details, samples and prices, see: > http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/books/census/index.htm > > So.... go and have a look, and then please do tell your friends on the > relevant mailing lists. The more that order in advance, the cheaper they > become! > > Regards > Rod Neep > -- > > ARCHIVE CD BOOKS - > A project to reproduce old books on CD for genealogists > and pay for the restoration of books in Record Offices, Libraries, etc. > Mailing list : CDBOOKS-L@rootsweb.com (for discussions) Weekly News : > CDBOOKS-NEWS-L@rootsweb.com (weekly announcements & news) > E-mail : enquiries@archivecdbooks.org > Web : http://www.archivecdbooks.org > > > > ==== CDBOOKS Mailing List ==== > The Archive CD Books Project http://www.archivecdbooks.org > For the weekly newsletter subscribe to > CDBOOKS-NEWS-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > Helen M Verrall > Lower Hutt > New Zealand > Email: hverrall@ihug.co.nz > > > > >

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