Janet - the fact that he says on the census that he is from the Potteries - If you have any other references that mention Lane End then that is Surely the Lane End around St Johns church Longton . The only other Lane End is in the North of the county and is realy only a meeting of two roads . I would suggest that you look for him in the 1851 census - for Staffordshire- and find him in there, this would also give an indication as to where he was born and potentiall his parents if he is still with them . Steve

This is most certainly the one Steve as Annie is our GGrandmother. How are you so sure that it is Logton I want? ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Stutcinskas Sent: 21 September 2002 22:12 To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: POTTS -Lane End Janet - Could this be the one your after - its an extract from the 1881 census . If it is, then it is 99% certain that the Lane End you want is Longton . Steve Dwelling: Knowbury Cainham, Shropshire, RG11 Piece 2616 Folio 41 Page 27 Francis POTTS M 45 M Potteries, Stafford, England Rel: Head Occ: Bricklayer Emma POTTS M 48 F Bitterley, Shropshire, England Rel: Wife Edward POTTS U 23 M Cainham, Shropshire, England Rel: Son Occ: Bricklayer John POTTS U 18 M Cainham, Shropshire, England Rel: Son Occ: Bricklayer Labourer Mary Ann POTTS 13 F Cainham, Shropshire, England Rel: Daur Annie POTTS 9 F Cainham, Shropshire, England Rel: Daur Daniel POTTS 6 M Cainham, Shropshire, England Rel: SonGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

I would suggest that you look for him in the 1851 census - for Staffordshire- and find him in there, this would also give an indication as to where he was born and potentiall his parents if he is still with them . Hi Janet. Francis POTTS is not on the 1841 Lane End / Longton census. Still worth checking the 1851 as Steve suggests though. Regards Earl.

Janet - Could this be the one your after - its an extract from the 1881 census . If it is, then it is 99% certain that the Lane End you want is Longton . Steve Dwelling: Knowbury Cainham, Shropshire, RG11 Piece 2616 Folio 41 Page 27 Francis POTTS M 45 M Potteries, Stafford, England Rel: Head Occ: Bricklayer Emma POTTS M 48 F Bitterley, Shropshire, England Rel: Wife Edward POTTS U 23 M Cainham, Shropshire, England Rel: Son Occ: Bricklayer John POTTS U 18 M Cainham, Shropshire, England Rel: Son Occ: Bricklayer Labourer Mary Ann POTTS 13 F Cainham, Shropshire, England Rel: Daur Annie POTTS 9 F Cainham, Shropshire, England Rel: Daur Daniel POTTS 6 M Cainham, Shropshire, England Rel: Son

Thanks Pam Look forward to hearing from you >From: Pammy <pjleather@sympatico.ca> >Reply-To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: POTTS -Lane End >Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 07:41:30 -0400 > >I have the brvi's > >Janet Barry wrote: > > > Can somebody help me please. > > > > I'm looking for Francis POTTS born circa 1836/37 Lane End, Staffs.(I >have no > > idea where this is) I noticed a message posted to the list this morning >with > > a Longton, Lane End, Staffs perhaps this is where I should be looking >but I > > also saw another Lane End on the same message - Lane End , Stoke on >Trent. > > HELP PLEEASE > > > > Janetxxx > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

Can somebody help me please. I'm looking for Francis POTTS born circa 1836/37 Lane End, Staffs.(I have no idea where this is) I noticed a message posted to the list this morning with a Longton, Lane End, Staffs perhaps this is where I should be looking but I also saw another Lane End on the same message - Lane End , Stoke on Trent. HELP PLEEASE Janetxxx _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

I have to help my sister do shopping it will be later in the day Janet Barry wrote: > Thanks Pam > > Look forward to hearing from you > > >From: Pammy <pjleather@sympatico.ca> > >Reply-To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com > >To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: POTTS -Lane End > >Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 07:41:30 -0400 > > > >I have the brvi's > > > >Janet Barry wrote: > > > > > Can somebody help me please. > > > > > > I'm looking for Francis POTTS born circa 1836/37 Lane End, Staffs.(I > >have no > > > idea where this is) I noticed a message posted to the list this morning > >with > > > a Longton, Lane End, Staffs perhaps this is where I should be looking > >but I > > > also saw another Lane End on the same message - Lane End , Stoke on > >Trent. > > > HELP PLEEASE > > > > > > Janetxxx > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com

I have the brvi's Janet Barry wrote: > Can somebody help me please. > > I'm looking for Francis POTTS born circa 1836/37 Lane End, Staffs.(I have no > idea where this is) I noticed a message posted to the list this morning with > a Longton, Lane End, Staffs perhaps this is where I should be looking but I > also saw another Lane End on the same message - Lane End , Stoke on Trent. > HELP PLEEASE > > Janetxxx > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

Hello Pam further to Steves answer - there are also many variations on the Colclough name which will widen your search even further. I have some copies of some of the parish registers around the general area and the amount of entries for this one surname are enormous. Sandra Todd ----- Original Message ----- From: Pammy <pjleather@sympatico.ca> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 6:26 PM Subject: Colcloughs and Podmores > looking for the ancestors of Colcloughs and the podmores that work in > the potteries in the 1800's > >

Pam - These are both very common names in the potteries and there would be many occurrances in the 100 years that you are seeking . You should give a little more details on who you have - such as Christian names, specific dates and towns . I dont have any connection to nthe names and am just trying to increase your chances of a reply STeve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pammy" <pjleather@sympatico.ca> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 6:26 PM Subject: Colcloughs and Podmores > looking for the ancestors of Colcloughs and the podmores that work in > the potteries in the 1800's > >

Husband: Samuel COLCLOUGH ================================================================================ AKA: Born: Christened: Died: Buried: Married: 4 Apr 1836 Place: Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire ================================================================================ Wife: Ann PODMORE ================================================================================ AKA: Born: Abt 1811 - Longton, Lane End, Staffordshire Christened: Died: 26 Mar 1868 - Longton, Lane End, Staffordshire Buried: 26 Mar 1868 - Longton, Lane End, Staffordshire ================================================================================ Children ================================================================================ 1 F Mary COLCLOUGH Born: Abt 1832 - Stoke-on-Trent, England Christened: 4 Mar 1832 - Lane End, Stafford, England Died: Buried: Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 M Elijah COLCLOUGH Born: 1836 - Stoke-On Trent, England Christened: Died: Buried: 21 Mar 1837 - Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 M Elijah COLCLOUGH Born: 18 Mar 1838 - Stoke On Trent, Stafford, England Christened: Died: Buried: Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 F Sarah COLCLOUGH Born: Abt 1840 - Lane End, Staffordshire, England Christened: 17 May 1840 - Lane End, Stafford, England Died: Buried: Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5 F Hannah COLCLOUGH Born: Abt 1842 - Staffordshire, England Christened: 25 Dec 1842 - Longton, Lane End, Staffordshire Died: Buried: Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6 M Samuel COLCLOUGH Born: Abt 1844 - Staffordshire, England Christened: 8 Dec 1844 - Lane End, Stafford, England Died: Buried: Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7 F Eliza COLCLOUGH Born: 12 Nov 1846 - Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England Christened: Died: Buried: Spouse: Samuel ALLEN (1844- ) Marr. Date: 5 Mar 1866 - Stafford, England Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8 M William COLCLOUGH Born: 19 Jul 1857 - Longton, Staffordshire Christened: Died: Buried: Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9 F Emma COLCLOUGH Born: Abt 1891 - Longton, Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire Christened: Died: Buried: Spouse: Marr. Date: Husband: Felix ALLEN ================================================================================ AKA: Born: Abt 1817 - Longton, Staffordshire, England Christened: Died: 23 Sep 1847 - Lane End, Staffordshire, England Buried: 26 Sep 1847 - Lane End, Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire Father: Joseph ALLEN (Abt 1781-1852) Mother: Ann ALLATON (Abt 1780- ) Married: 21 Oct 1844 Place: Bucknell, Staffordshire, England ================================================================================ Wife: Mary HUGHES ================================================================================ AKA: Born: 1824 - Lane End, Staffordshire Christened: Died: Buried: Father: Samuel HUGHES ( - ) Mother: Frances BULLOCK (Abt 1795- ) ================================================================================ Children ================================================================================ 1 F Anne ALLEN Born: Abt 1843 - Longton, Staffordshire, England Christened: Died: Buried: Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 M Samuel ALLEN(my 3x Great GrandFather) Born: 6 Nov 1844 - Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England Christened: Died: Buried: Spouse: Eliza COLCLOUGH (1846- ) Marr. Date: 5 Mar 1866 - Stafford, England Spouse: Elizabeth Arkinstall ( - ) Marr. Date: Stafford, England Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 M Isaac ALLEN Born: Abt 1847 - Longton, Staffordshire, England Christened: Died: Buried: Spouse: Marr. Date: Husband: Joseph ALLEN ================================================================================ AKA: Born: Abt 1781 - Longton, Staffordshire, England Christened: Died: 16 May 1852 - Stoke Upon Trent, Stafford, England Buried: 19 May 1852 - Longton, Staffordshire, England Married: 13 Sep 1802 Place: Newcastle Under Lyme, Stafford, England ================================================================================ Wife: Ann ALLATON ================================================================================ AKA: Born: Abt 1780 - Stafford, England Christened: Died: Buried: ================================================================================ Children ================================================================================ 1 M Richard ALLEN Born: Abt 1806 - Longton, Staffordshire, England Christened: Dec 1806 - Lane End, Stafford, England Died: Buried: Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 M Joseph ALLEN Born: Abt 1811 - Longton, Staffordshire, England Christened: Died: Buried: Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 M Felix ALLEN Born: Abt 1817 - Longton, Staffordshire, England Christened: Died: 23 Sep 1847 - Lane End, Staffordshire, England Buried: 26 Sep 1847 - Lane End, Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire Spouse: Mary HUGHES (1824- ) Marr. Date: 21 Oct 1844 - Bucknell, Staffordshire, England Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 M James ALLEN Born: Abt 1821 - Longton, Staffordshire, England Christened: Died: Buried: Spouse: Marr. Date: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5 M Isaac ALLEN Born: Abt 1826 - Lane End, Stafford, England Christened: 21 May 1826 - Lane End, Stafford, England Died: Buried: Spouse: Marr. Date:

looking for the ancestors of Colcloughs and the podmores that work in the potteries in the 1800's

Hi, Lakhri, How are you keeping? Okay I hope. I lived close to Tunstall until I was 19,I'm now in Bristol.My Grandmother lived at Clay Hills with her family in the early 1900's. I think that the Cottage pub is still in the same place.How well do you know Tunstall? It's behind the Square,near to the cemetery. Let me know how well you get on with these directions.If I can help any more let me know and I'll find the address on Multi map,and send it to you,as best I can. Best Wishes, Helen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Wood" <lakhri@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:10 PM Subject: Pratchett's Cottage, Clay Hills, Tunstall > > This message has been sent without an attachment. > > Anyone have knowledge of this now long gone bit of old Tunstall..presumably > sited > where now stands - for the last 60 years or more - The Cottage public > house . > > Regards, > Lakhri in the Staffordshire Moorlands. >

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This message has been sent without an attachment. Anyone have knowledge of this now long gone bit of old Tunstall..presumably sited where now stands - for the last 60 years or more - The Cottage public house . Regards, Lakhri in the Staffordshire Moorlands.

Hi All I wonder if anyone can advise me please? I have obtained the funeral announcements from the Sentinel of my grandparents. As recommended by an e-mail on this site I telephoned Carmountside and asked them if they could give me the grave details, that is where the plot is and who is buried in it. I had understood that this information was easily available. The lady whom I spoke to asked me to write in regarding the Carmountside entry and said that they would not be able to help with the Bucknall one. My parents are visiting Stoke-on-Trent next week for a couple days and hoped to visit the graves. The lady in Carmountside has said that if I write in they will have the Carmountside information available for my parents. Does anyone know how I can find directions to the burial plot in Bucknall? My mother has never seen her mother's grave, her mother died when she was 7 months old. The relevant details are Alice Leigh - died 12 Oct 1931 - Service New Connexion Chapel, Bucknall Buried Sat 21 Oct at Bucknall Church (I believe this is Marychurch) Charles Leigh - died 24 Aug 1965 - Service Blurton Church Buried Fri 27 Aug 1965 at Carmountside Any advice would be gratefully received. Michelle Hants, UK --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.385 / Virus Database: 217 - Release Date: 04/09/02

Jane is subscribed -!! Helen -----Original Message----- From: Jane Gillard [mailto:janegillard@hfx.eastlink.ca] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 11:53 AM To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} [The Potteries]COOPER and CLARK Hi All, I am new to the list and would like to post my interests. Samuel COOPER, b. abt 1833 in Hartshill, father Samuel COOPER (a grocer in Hartshill), mother unknown. Samuel married Eliza CLARK 1856 in Hartshill. Eliza's father was William CLARK (a potter), mother unknown. Also, I just received the marriage certificate for Samuel and Eliza. The church is "The Parish Church" in parish of Hartshill. Does anyone on the list know what church they would be referring to. Thanks Jane Gillard Nova Scotia, Canada ==== STAFFORDSHIRE Mailing List ==== The List for the Ancient County of Staffordshire Access to Archives http://www.a2a.pro.gov.uk/

----Original Message----- From: Lesley Bayston [mailto:lesley.bayston@lineone.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 9:36 AM To: STAFFORDSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com Subject: CUTTS I would appreciate it if the following could be forwarded to your list. For anyone researching CUTTS or with CUTTS connections - we are having a get-together next weekend. Date: Sunday, 22nd September, 2002 Time: 10.30 a.m.- 4.30 p.m. Venue: The Peacock Inn, Four Lane Ends, Oakerthorpe, South Wingfield, Derbyshire. Plenty of Parking! Access is by outside steps from car park, but Take Care.... Upper Function Room. - Refreshments available Bars Downstairs - Meals available. This is an old coaching inn which no doubt some of our ancestors would have known and used as it was the main coaching run from Derby to Sheffield. No doubt horses were changed over at this point ready for the hills ahead. A warning to all those who imbibe too enthusiastically, or dally too long, is seen through a glass panel in the floor of the main bar!! Look out for it as you arrive..... (For those of you who do not know the area, it is situated by the traffic lights at the crossroads of the main road (A615 in my old atlas) from M1-J28 via Alfreton following Matlock signs , and the road from Chesterfield to Pentrichlane End - between Ripley and Ambergate on the Ripley-Ambergate Road (The Excavator Pub at this junction). Map ref SK3955.) The aim of the get-together is for anyone researching CUTTS to meet and exchange information and have a pleasant day. Please come along whether you feel you know everything, or nothing, about your own particular Cutts family...Bring any charts/family trees/photos, lists from family bibles, 'brick walls', letters, etc.. etc. We want to make the day as interesting as possible for everyone. Also there are many places of interest in the area for those who want to make a weekend of it with their families. Matlock Illuminations take place that weekend so a chance to kill two birds with one stone! The new Derwent Valley Heritage Site is centred around the old Cotton Mills at Belper, Cromford and Matlock Bath and you can learn more about the Industrial Revolution and the way it affected our forefathers here than in many libraries......and it is ' Reality'. A good way to re-learn the history we did not pay attention to at school, and to enthuse your children into not doing the same.....(We know that a Henry Cutts was in charge of Cromford Canal Wharf in 1811 and need to know more......) John Frawley is working hard on the last minute arrangements and agenda for the day, Lesley Bayston, our List leader, has been gathering in as many non-listers as she knows who may wish to join us, Jim Cutts has promised to bring his chart showing all who descend from Ralph Cutts and Elizabeth Amrie who married in 1630 (probably most of us in the East Midlands!) as well as all his GRO refs, and as many other records as his car boot will hold, Tony Cutt will be talking about DNA and Fingerprinting for future researchers, I will bring a few of my many files showing the family groupings I am trying to build, (too many to bring all) and I am adding my 'twopenn'orth' by trying to enthuse as many of you as can make it to come along and make our first Get Together a success. Summer has drawn us all away from our computers and charts and we are all promising ourselves that we WILL spend more time on it this Winter (I have not even managed to find time to extract my 1901 census yet) I will be travelling up to the area for a family event towards the end of next week, but will be staying locally over the Saturday/Sunday evenings and maybe spend some time in the Matlock Record Office or Local Studies before returning to Nottingham on the Monday or Tuesday evening. Anyone else staying in the area overnight, please let me know and I would love to meet you and have a meal/chat/stroll among the lights/whatever. Watch the List for more details. Hope to see many of you next week (with apologies to those overseas who cannot - but we may find out more about your relatives' families in the process). Lesley lesley.bayston@lineone.net

I requested the surname Smith last week, has anyone come up with the names yet please.. Yes I am subscribed...The list owner did it manually, as nothing was coming thru..still nothing! It was to do with Mary Jane Smith family who lived at Longton. thank you. I am on so many Rootsweb. finding a lot of them are not working for some reason..have no trouble with London. and Kent. Many thanks. Adele Secretary Carterton District Historical Society in NZ as there is a Carterton in UK...