FROM Admin! Sorry folks - Rootsweb have said we cannot receive Guy's CD News Digest, in a direct posting. I will continue to forward each issue. Helen -----Original Message----- From: Guy Etchells [mailto:guy.etchells@virgin.net] Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 1:35 AM To: CDBOOKS-NEWS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CDBOOKS-NEWS] 04 October 2002 Archive CD Books News 04 October 2002 In this issue: * Latest CD releases this week * Snippets, Feedback & Comments ** Visit the web based version of Archive CD Books News for the full expanded edition including : * Reviews & extracts from some of the books * Family history hints and tips * How to get the best out of available resources * Special Offers __________________________________________________________________ Welcome to another Archive CD Books News, the text version of the new, more detailed and wider ranging web page version of the Archive CD Books News which is available for your enjoyment at : http://www.archivecdbooks.com/news/ In order to make the most of the new opportunities the web based news offers contributions in the form of articles and stories are required from you the readers. My inbox is waiting to hear your success stories, breakthroughs achieved with the help of a cd, the uses you make of your cds, perhaps you have used images from a cd to illustrate your family history, maybe your great grandfather rode with the Belvoir Hunt, or used a Pigot's directory as a commercial traveller. Everyone has a story to tell share yours with us. Email to : guy.etchells@virgin.net __________________________________________________________________ LATEST CD RELEASES THIS WEEK http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/books/new/index.htm 1. Derbyshire 1861 Census Supplement 1 This CD includes all of the Derbyshire places that appear in the Nottinghamshire Registration Districts. For more details and lists of places included see Derbyshire Census Supplement 1 page http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/books/ref/c1861dby-s1/index.htm 2. Kelly's Directory of Lancashire 1924 The last directory for the whole of the county, but excluding Liverpool and Manchester which had their own directories by this time. see Lancashire directories page http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/acatalog/Archive_CD_Books_Directories_106.html 3. Index of Persons Named in Early Chancery Proceedings 1385-1467 An index of people named in Chancery Proceedings documents held by the Public Record Office. see General Genealogy reference books page http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/acatalog/Archive_CD_Books_Reference_Books_20.h tml 4. A Catalogue of The Earl Marshal's Papers at Arundel Castle Compiled from the archives at Arundel castle this includes dated and undated civil cases referred to the Earl Marshal. see General Genealogy reference books page http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/acatalog/Archive_CD_Books_Reference_Books_20.h tml 5. Merchant's Marks Merchants used 'marks' from at least as early as the thirteenth century and continued to use them for the next four or five hundred years. see General Genealogy reference books page http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/acatalog/Archive_CD_Books_Reference_Books_20.h tml 6. A Genealogical Guide This was originally intended to be a supplement to Dr Marshall's 1903 book of the same name, but grew into a major revision of the earlier work see General Genealogy reference books page http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/acatalog/Archive_CD_Books_Reference_Books_20.h tml 7. A Catalogue of English Mediaeval Rolls of Arms Rolls of arms is the generic name given to medieval manuscript records of armorial bearings, whether they be in the form of rolls or books. Surviving Rolls are incredibly rare, this book lists many of those that do. see Pedigrees and Peerages page http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/acatalog/Archive_CD_Books_Pedigrees___Peerages _39.html 8. Rolls of Arms - Henry III Includes the Matthew Paris Shields c. 1244-59, Glover's Roll c. 1253-8 and Walford's Roll c. 1273. see Pedigrees and Peerages page http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/acatalog/Archive_CD_Books_Pedigrees___Peerages _39.html 9. Munimenta Heraldica 1484-1984 Published in 1984 to commemorate the five-hundredth anniversay of the first incorporation of the College of Arms. see Miscellaneous page http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/acatalog/Archive_CD_Books_Miscellaneous_121.ht ml 10. Heraldry from Military Monuments Before 1350 Descriptions of examples of heraldry to be found on hundreds of monuments in churches, abbeys and cathedrals all over the country. see Graves and MI's page http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/acatalog/Archive_CD_Books_Graves_and_MIs_116.h tml ________________________________________________________________ Letters & Feedback :- Marged writes : I was delighted with my 1911 Gore's Directory of Liverpool on CD and had a resounding success when I did a "look-up" for a friend who was visiting from Canada. She already had an address for her great-grandfather in Liverpool in 1911, and we took her to look at the house. Surprisingly it was still standing, but turned out to be a boarded up shop front with a flat above it. My friend was pleased to find the dwelling, but surprised and disappointed that it was so run-down and had never been anything but a shop. When we got home, we looked up the address, rather than just the people by name, and found that the Directory gave the address of the "Private Residence", which turned out to be a beautiful mansion close by - the shop being only a business address. ________________________________________________________________ The free CD offer of the 1791 Universal British Directory which goes to new purchasers, will end at noon (British time) on Monday 7 October. If you have friends who you think may like to take advantage of this offer to receive this superb CD, then please let them know, so that they can place their first order in time. ________________________________________________________________ 1861 Census some comments from around the world : Sally in USA wrote : Received mine today...awesome! And just enough room leftover in the wallet for the Notts Index and 41-51CDs to keep them company! Well done guys... it doesn't get better than this! Kind regards June in Australia wrote : First, thank you for the safe arrival of my Nottinghamshire Census discs, I may never do housework again.... Glenys in England wrote : My Notts 1861 arrived yesterday and it is wonderful quality ________________________________________________________________ Caution column numbers : I often see mentions on mailing lists that the index refers to a name on page xyz but this page does not exist, this is because of the indexing system used in those early directories. When using the indexes in directories be careful what they are actually referring to, many refer to a column number rather than a page number therefore the three columns 535, 536, 537 may be on the same page (203) of the directory. The column numbers are shown at the top of each column on the pages of the directory. ________________________________________________________________ Archive CD Books : Important Order & Delivery information At present we are receiving a large amount of e-mails from people asking : 1. Did you receive my order? 2. Where is my CD? This is causing an excessive amount of work for those processing your order. We don't like to ignore these messages but they are *slowing down* the order processing considerably. Today, two of our team spent all day answering those emails.... and no orders were processed. ************************** Therefore PLEASE read this : ************************** 1. Did you receive my order? ============================ Answer: Yes! The shopping cart will have displayed a screen with your order which says "This is your receipt. Print this page and keep it for your records. If you need to contact us, refer to the Order Number below". By the time you see that screen, then we *already* have your order! a. If you forgot if you saw that screen, please do NOT write to us. b. If you expected to also receive an automated e-mail confirmation but didn't, then please do not write to us. --------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Where is my CD? ================== Please read this carefully.... A. If your order was for the Magazine of the Great War then I can confirm that all orders placed longer than one week ago have been packed and sent by post. Please allow up to 28 days before contacting us if you think that there may be a problem with its delivery. They have been posted. B. If your order was for the Nottinghamshire 1861 census then I can confirm that all orders placed longer than one week ago have been packed and sent by post. Please allow up to 28 days before contacting us if you think that there may be a problem with its delivery. They have been posted. C. If you expected a free CD as a result of one of our promotions (new customers, and the Notts. 1861 census) then please be patient. We are making the free CDs in batches between normal production runs. Many have been posted already, some are made and waiting to be posted, and some have not yet been made. You *will* receive them but they are normally being posted out *separately* from other CD orders. D. If you ordered one of the 1861 census project sets, then please note that this was an *advance* order that you placed. Please do not write asking where they are! They will *not* be delivered immediately. We have received *lots* of e-mails saying "I ordered the census set for XXX county a week ago and I have not received it yet". Some of those messages are bordering on the offensive. Only the 1861 Nottinghamshire has been completed and posted. The next ones to be completed (and not necessarily in this order) will be. Cornwall, Dorset, Middlesex, Derbyshire and Lincolnshire. Some or all of these may be completed by November (sometime), but at this date I cannot give a firm release date, at there is still a lot of work and checking to be done on them. The sets for other counties will appear later than November, and some not until the new year. Please do not write and ask "When?" the answer will always be "look at the census project web page". Any developments will be updated there as they happen. Each census project takes a *long* while to complete. Each entails a huge amount of work. E. If you have ordered a normal production run CD during the last three weeks and have not yet received it, then please accept my apologies. There is a bit of a backlog. *Some* orders have been completed and posted, but not all. This was due to having to put the CD making machine onto producing the large runs of the Magazine of the Great War, and the Nottinghamshire 1861 census. Having completed these, then the normal production run CDs are *now* well under way. We *never* keep large stocks of CDs. They are made to order. With almost a thousand different CDs now in production, even keeping a stock of just 10 of each would entail 10,000 CDs held in stock. However : It is my aim to improve on the turn-around of orders so that they are posted out within two days of receipt of the order. At one time we actually achieved this, but levels of orders has increased. In order to achieve that aim : a. A new CD maker (cost GBP 13,500 with its computer) has yesterday been put into operation. That runs alongside our other two CD makers. b. An extra person has been employed in the packing and posting. c. The girls doing the sales order processing have been told not to answer messages of "where is my CD?" unless the order was placed more than 28 days ago. To answer those messages takes much longer than to process an order and create an invoice. (The only other alternative would be for me to employ someone to look up orders and reply to those emails, and it would take someone working many hours each day to do it). When "a" and "b" above start to become effective, and orders have been satisfied, and new orders are being processed more quickly, then there would not be a need for an extra person to handle those emails. In other words, the problem has been addressed, rather than a temporary fire fighting measure. Please do not write messages asking "Where is my CD?" They will slow down everyone's orders. F. "I forgot if I ordered xxxx CD or not.. I meant to, or at least I remember thinking about it. Can you please check" Answer: AAAAArgh! ;-) G. If you ordered CDs from another supplier, then ask them! Not us! (It is surprising how many of those we get!) All of these things are causing an excessive amount of work for those processing your orders. We don't like to ignore these messages but they are *slowing down* the order processing considerably. Today, two of our team spent all day answering those emails.... and no orders were processed. They were not happy ladies by the end of the day. Tomorrow... and the next day... and the next.... if an enquiry comes in which is for an order more than 28 days old, then it will be answered. If it relates to a more recent order (covered by the notes above) then it will not be answered. The girls have been given instructions (by me) to process orders and do credit card charging and invoicing. That way, we shall catch up, and then achieve my aims of a two day turn-around in future. And finally.... whenever I post a message such as this... it results in *lots* of people posting us e-mails saying "Where is my CD?". Please do not do that. Please! Regards Rod Neep _________________________________________________________________ Don't forget to visit the Archive CD Books web page news where we bring you news, family history hints & tips, interesting articles, extracts from books and instructions on how to get the best from available resources all at : http://www.archivecdbooks.com/news/ To contribute stories, articles & snippets mail to : guy.etchells@virgin.net Cheers Guy ==== CDBOOKS-NEWS Mailing List ==== Always keep an eye open for new CD releases on the "Latest Releases" page on the web site The Archive CD Books web pages are at http://www.archivecdbooks.org

Hi All I have tried to find my great-grandparents on the online census, but I am not doing very well. I wondered if SKS would be willing to try? The details follow: Ada BARRETT married Charles LEIGH on 8 April 1910 at St Lukes, Wellington. They were both 19. Charles was a coal miner and Ada was a potters nasleyoiner (It's hard to read their marriage certificate). They both lived in Hanover St. He was at number one and she was at number 6. Their fathers', Charles Leigh and George Barrett were both deceased. In 1905 they were living at 3 Arlington Street, Hanley. Charles is listed as a Potter's Placer on a birth certificate. In 1901, a Charles LEIGH, aged 19, collier is a patient in Haywood Hospital. This is on RG13/2596-99-7 The only Ada LEIGH that I've been able to find is at 7 Compton Street, Shelton. She is Single, 20 and a Potters Paintress. She is living with her mother Elizabeth Pepper, brother Harry Leigh and sister Lucy Leigh. This is on RG13/2606-68-21. I have found this family in the 1881 census, so I know that this is not my Ada. I look forwards to hearing any suggestions. I have successfully found my Potts, Stanford, Forrest and Soulsby families and would be delighted to hear from anyone else with an interest in these families. Thank you Michelle Hants, UK --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.393 / Virus Database: 223 - Release Date: 30/09/02

Rod Neep advises that first time purchasers free gift offer is to conclude as follows. ======== The free CD offer of the 1791 Universal British Directory which goes to new purchasers, will end at noon (British time) on Monday 7 October. If you have friends who you think may like to take advantage of this offer to receive this superb CD, then please let them know, so that they can place their first order in time. ==================== Also if you have still not ordered your 1861 Census for STS, the price is close reducing again- and if you haven't purchased any Cd's previously, it is a marvelous opportunity to get the 1861 and the 1791 Directory! Check the details on http://www.archivecdbooks.org Helen Helen M Verrall Lower Hutt New Zealand mailto:hverrall@ihug.co.nz         

FROM ADMIN!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Flynn, Sarah" <sarah.flynn@PRO.GOV.UK> To: <ARCHIVES-NRA@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 3:09 PM Subject: A2A Update, October 2002 ~~~~~ The latest update to the A2A database at www.a2a.pro.gov.uk took place yesterday. The database now contains over 3.9 million catalogue entries from 197 archives repositories across England. The new catalogues include further collection level descriptions from the Yorkshire Signpost project, notably for archives held by the East Riding of Yorkshire Archives and Records Service and the Thoresby Society of Leeds, but also for archives from 11 other repositories in the Yorkshire and Humber region. Among this month's other new catalogues, 47 finding aids for hospital archives held by Cornwall Record Office, Gloucestershire Record Office and Hertfordshire Archives and Local Studies have also been added. The A2A Central Team is very pleased to announce that the Heritage Lottery Fund have made grants to two more A2A projects: More than Meets the Eye and The Seven Ages of Man. More than Meets the Eye will be delivered by Greater Manchester County Record Office, and will provide access to the Documentary Photography Archive, which is held at Greater Manchester County Record Office and relates to life in the North West of England. The project will contribute over 10,000 catalogue pages to the A2A database by retroconversion, and will also provide an online virtual gallery, using selected photographs from and giving context for the Documentary Photography Archive, linked to the A2A website. The Seven Ages of Man is the West Midlands regional consortium project. It will add 30,000 retroconverted catalogue pages to the A2A database - catalogue pages which relate to parish, ecclesiastical, court and school records held in repositories across the region, including local government record offices, the Modern Records Centre at the University of Warwick, and the archives of the Catholic Archdiocese of Birmingham at St Chad's Cathedral. A2A is the English strand in the UK archives network: its database at www.a2a.pro.gov.uk already contains the electronic equivalent of over 400,000 catalogue pages describing archives held across England in national, local and specialist repositories and dating from the 900s to the present day. The A2A programme will make a further 300,000 catalogue pages available on the web by March 2004. * * * * * * Sarah J A Flynn Regional Liaison Co-Ordinator, A2A Public Record Office Kew Richmond Surrey TW9 4DU Tel (direct line): 020 8392 5328 Fax: 020 8392 5319 Email: sarah.flynn@pro.gov.uk www: http://www.a2a.pro.gov.uk * * * * * * ==== LISTOWNERS-ENGWLS Mailing List ==== .

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pammy" <pjleather@sympatico.ca> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 2:02 PM Subject: Re: 1st World War. > Hi Hugh > These are the names I'm researching of the Potteries and Stoke on Trent > Podmore(Longton,Lane End) > Colcloughs(Stoke On Trent) > Hughes(Norton in the Moors) > Allen(Stoke On Trent/Longton) > Allaton or Allerton(Stafford) > Bullock(Trentham) > Smith Thank you the fifth generation all in Hanley and . . couples born 1850ies Riley . . Ireland Kent ... Etruria Grannon . . Ireland Roscom Duffy . . Ireland Roscom shorter lived males so born 1868 to 1879 Forrester . . . Stockton Johnson Pyatt Harrison . . Longton next I need the last two weddings and maiden names to get the girls parents I have been hammering the 1901 with the help of the Leeds Indexers software so have collected a rough index to all in the Hanley Civil parish of each of the above names Grannon is Granon in 1881 I found out two days ago trades:- miners. hewes, labourers, carters and a few at the potbank I have droppped STS list not enough SoT nice to hear from you Hugh W --

These are the names I'm researching of the Potteries and Stoke on Trent Podmore(Longton,Lane End) Colcloughs(Stoke On Trent) Hughes(Norton in the Moors) Allen(Stoke On Trent/Longton) Allaton or Allerton(Stafford) Bullock(Trentham) Smith

Hi Hugh These are the names I'm researching of the Potteries and Stoke on Trent Podmore(Longton,Lane End) Colcloughs(Stoke On Trent) Hughes(Norton in the Moors) Allen(Stoke On Trent/Longton) Allaton or Allerton(Stafford) Bullock(Trentham) Smith Hugh Watkins wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pammy" <pjleather@sympatico.ca> > > Juanita Baston wrote: > > snip > > > > I wonder whether anyone out there has a good knowledge of the war during > > > 1916? My uncle, Corporal Harry Nixon, 16859 12th Battalion Sherwood > > > Foresters came from Stoke-on-Trent. He died on 4 Feb.1916 aged 22, and > > > is buried in Menin Road South Military Cemetery, Ypres. I would like to > > > find out in what action he was killed. Can someone point me in the right > > > direction please? > > > The letter informing his mother was signed-- > > > 7189 Sgt. A. Maycock > > > A. Company. > > > 12th Sherwood Foresters. > > > ( Pioneers ) > > No but you can look for the > History of the Great War publisher HMSO > > and contacts include > Imperial War Museum > London > > and a regimental museum. > > Pioneer soldiers were basically labourers digging trenches for example and often illiterate. > > http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=12th+Battalion+Sherwood++Foresters+ > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=museum+Sherwood++Foresters+&btnG=Google+Search > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=museum+imperial+war&btnG=Google+Search > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Pioneer+soldiers+great+war+site%3Auk&btnG=Google+Search > > I have family in Stoke on Trent so let me know if you need look ups > > Hugh W > > http://www.iwm.org.uk/lambeth/famhist.htm > > When the Imperial War Museum was founded in 1917, one of its functions was to be a memorial to those who had died and suffered in > the First World War. The Museum has since expanded its remit to include all conflicts, concentrating on British and Commonwealth > involvement from 1914 to the present day.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Juanita Baston" <nita@hayes-park.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 5:02 AM Subject: 1st World War. > I wonder whether anyone out there has a good knowledge of the war during > 1916? My uncle, Corporal Harry Nixon, 16859 12th Battalion Sherwood > Foresters came from Stoke-on-Trent. He died on 4 Feb.1916 aged 22, and > is buried in Menin Road South Military Cemetery, Ypres. I would like to > find out in what action he was killed. Can someone point me in the right > direction please? > The letter informing his mother was signed-- > 7189 Sgt. A. Maycock > A. Company. > 12th Sherwood Foresters. > ( Pioneers ) > -- > Juanita Baston > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pammy" <pjleather@sympatico.ca> > Juanita Baston wrote: snip > > I wonder whether anyone out there has a good knowledge of the war during > > 1916? My uncle, Corporal Harry Nixon, 16859 12th Battalion Sherwood > > Foresters came from Stoke-on-Trent. He died on 4 Feb.1916 aged 22, and > > is buried in Menin Road South Military Cemetery, Ypres. I would like to > > find out in what action he was killed. Can someone point me in the right > > direction please? > > The letter informing his mother was signed-- > > 7189 Sgt. A. Maycock > > A. Company. > > 12th Sherwood Foresters. > > ( Pioneers ) No but you can look for the History of the Great War publisher HMSO and contacts include Imperial War Museum London and a regimental museum. Pioneer soldiers were basically labourers digging trenches for example and often illiterate. http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=12th+Battalion+Sherwood++Foresters+ http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=museum+Sherwood++Foresters+&btnG=Google+Search http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=museum+imperial+war&btnG=Google+Search http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Pioneer+soldiers+great+war+site%3Auk&btnG=Google+Search I have family in Stoke on Trent so let me know if you need look ups Hugh W http://www.iwm.org.uk/lambeth/famhist.htm When the Imperial War Museum was founded in 1917, one of its functions was to be a memorial to those who had died and suffered in the First World War. The Museum has since expanded its remit to include all conflicts, concentrating on British and Commonwealth involvement from 1914 to the present day.

http://www.cwgc.org.uk/detailed.asp?casualty=96720 Debt of Honour Register In Memory of HARRY NIXON Corporal 16859 12th Bn., Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regt.) who died on Monday 14 February 1916 . Age 22 . Additional Information: Son of Albert and Sarah Ellen Nixon, of 538, Hartshill Rd., Stoke-on-Trent. Cemetery: MENIN ROAD SOUTH MILITARY CEMETERYIeper, West-Vlaanderen, Belgium Grave or Reference Panel Number: I. C. 8. Location: Menin Road South Military Cemetery is located 2 kilometres east of Ieper town centre, on the Meenseweg (N8), connecting Ieper to Menen. From Ieper town centre the Meenseweg is located via Torhoutstraat and right onto Basculestraat. Basculestraat ends at a main crossroads, directly over which begins the Meenseweg. The Cemetery is located 800 metres along the Meenseweg on the right hand side of the road. Historical Information: The Menin Road ran east and a little south from Ypres (now Ieper) to a front line which varied only a few kilometres during the greater part of the war. The position of this cemetery was always within the Allied lines. It was first used in January 1916 by the 8th South Staffords and the 9th East Surreys, and it continued to be used by units and Field Ambulances until the summer of 1918. The cemetery was increased after the Armistice when graves were brought in from Menin Road North Military Cemetery and from isolated positions on the battlefields to the east. There are now 1,657 servicemen of the First World War buried or commemorated in this cemetery. 119 of the burials are unidentified but special memorials are erected to 24 casualties known or believed to be buried among them. In addition, there are special memorials to 54 casualties who were buried in Menin Road North Military Cemetery, whose graves were probably destroyed by shell fire and could not be found. These are numbered between 1 and 57. The cemetery was designed by Sir Reginald Blomfield. Juanita Baston wrote: > I wonder whether anyone out there has a good knowledge of the war during > 1916? My uncle, Corporal Harry Nixon, 16859 12th Battalion Sherwood > Foresters came from Stoke-on-Trent. He died on 4 Feb.1916 aged 22, and > is buried in Menin Road South Military Cemetery, Ypres. I would like to > find out in what action he was killed. Can someone point me in the right > direction please? > The letter informing his mother was signed-- > 7189 Sgt. A. Maycock > A. Company. > 12th Sherwood Foresters. > ( Pioneers ) > -- > Juanita Baston

I wonder whether anyone out there has a good knowledge of the war during 1916? My uncle, Corporal Harry Nixon, 16859 12th Battalion Sherwood Foresters came from Stoke-on-Trent. He died on 4 Feb.1916 aged 22, and is buried in Menin Road South Military Cemetery, Ypres. I would like to find out in what action he was killed. Can someone point me in the right direction please? The letter informing his mother was signed-- 7189 Sgt. A. Maycock A. Company. 12th Sherwood Foresters. ( Pioneers ) -- Juanita Baston

I am researching the following names - BANKS : Stretton (Cheshire), Manchester (Lancs) BRADBURY : Lymm (Cheshire) BROWNBILL : St Helens (Lancs) CALLAGHAN : St Helens (Lancs), Ireland DANIELS : Bowdon (Cheshire) GABRIEL : St Helens (Lancs), Liverpool (Lancs) GRATWICH : Barlaston (Staffs) HIGHAM : Lymm (Cheshire), Leigh (Lancs) JOHNSON : Over Peover (Cheshire) JOHNS(T)ON : Wallasey (Cheshire), Birkenhead (Cheshire), Hull (East Riding), Tynemouth (Northumberland), Hebburn/Chester-le-Street/North Shields (Co. Durham/Northumberland) JONES : Whitchurch (Shrops) LEIGH : Lymm (Cheshire) MILLER : Lymm (Cheshire), Grappenhall (Cheshire) MOSTON/MOSSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Over Peover (Cheshire) NORBURY : Liverpool (Lancs) PERCIVAL : Lymm (Cheshire), Antrobus (Cheshire) RICHARDSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Prescot (Lancs) TABERN : St Helens (Lancs) THOMPSON : North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland) WILLIAMSON : Cheshire WINSTANLEY : Lymm (Cheshire) WOOTTON : Barlaston (Staffs), Moddershall (Staffs), Stone (Staffs) I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests. Thanks Tim

Friends The message I sent yesterday only covered a brief outline of the potential of the Bug-Bear Virus- Some mail has the appearance from one of our lists - NO MAIL sent by Rootsweb ( which is legitimate) can have an attachment - therefore you receive a mail with the prepend (STS), and an attachment delete immediately - though your anti-virus program should pick it up. Rod Neep posted this to the CD Books List and has willingly agreed that I post it to you all. --------- You will almost certainly have seen messages appearing in your inbox yesterday and today that *appear* to have been posted by a mailing list, and often contain the typical [XXX] in the subject line associated with Rootsweb mailing lists. These messages do *not* come from any of the mailing lists! They come from someone's infected computer. The messages often appear to be a normal genealogy message, either with, or apparently without an attached file. CLICK ON THAT FILE AND YOU HAVE THE VIRUS! **** DO NOT DO IT ***** Here at ACDB I am receiving hundreds of those messages that contain the virus. PEOPLE ARE BEING VERY IRRESPONSIBLE IN NOT UPDATING THEIR ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE!!! If you haven't updated your anti virus software TODAY... then do it now! Because one of the features of this nasty little bugger is that it will *kill* your current anti virus software *and* your firewall! For more details see: http://vil.mcafee.com/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=99728 If you don't have an anti-virus software then go to http://www.mcafee.com Or http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_downl.htm and get one now. PLEASE - NO DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS VIRUS ON THIS MAILING LIST. NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES - END OF TOPIC ----------- Norton's/Symantec Virus Help Page for this virus is at. http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.bugbear@mm.html Best wishes Helen Helen Verrall Temp.List Administrator: Staffordshire=Potteries =Pub & Inns = Deserted Villages- Mailing Lists mailto:hverrall@ihug.co.nz  

Friends This morning I found out that the posting I received ref. Hotmail - was spoof/hoax, sent by someone I thought a friend, I am now thinking of a suitable retaliation, but not one the affects a list.!! My apologies none of that quoted as coming from Hotmail , was true neither was the address. Regards Helen ( with a very eggy face) Helen Verrall Temp.List Administrator: Staffordshire=Potteries =Pub & Inns = Deserted Villages- Mailing Lists mailto:hverrall@ihug.co.nz  

Friends The subscribers who use the above ISP's are aware of the problems that we are having with continually bouncing mail!! I have two lots of information re Hotmail forwarded to me - the first >>Thought you may be interested to note that I am PRIVILEGED to have extracted a response from hotmail, regarding bounced Rootsweb emails & subsequent rootsweb unsubbing! Whilst I am far from happy with the vague nature of their intended fix, it does demonstrate that persistence pays a little. I used this address to gain a response: support_x@css.one.microsoft.com See their >>>reply below. This is the reply he received - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Why do you bother to keep contacting us?" "My name is Rachel, maybe, and I don't see anything of value in your inbox, so I doubt that you've lost anything of importance. You may be frustrated, but so am I. They gave me this job with no training and software that's buggier than a termite mound." "We have no way of determining what the problem is, who caused it, or when it might go away. We'll change a few settings and maybe, someday, we'll fix it by accident. After all, you aren't paying for this service so why should you expect service?" "We hope you continue to use our Hotmail site, because without those banner advertisements bringing in revenue, I wouldn't get paid at all. But as soon as I get some computer skills under my belt, I'm outta here!" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rootsweb have assured all the List Administrators, that the problem is not theirs, and that it lies with Hotmail - hotmail.msn. I would recommend that you look at changing your ISP or there many others who offer a free service. Perhaps if a large number cancel their accounts , MS might have a look at the service they are /( not) providing. The decision is yours - but I will no longer manually subscribe listers who have been bounced by hotmail- you will have to do this yourselves. Helen Helen Verrall Temp.List Administrator: Staffordshire=Potteries =Pub & Inns = Deserted Villages- Mailing Lists mailto:hverrall@ihug.co.nz  

Friends A new virus , with a twist, has been released, it appears to not only collect address from an Address Book but also reaps them from your Mail Box. Three plus myself have received mail sent from other lists, to which we are not subscribed. Subject: varies - usually mail is in HTML -Subject RE: ....... These are the details - the attachment is a screen saver - and has varied names but are all the BUG_BEAR Virus Check out this site for more detail- http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/index.html Do these things - 1. Update your Anti - Virus Program 2. Then run a scan of your whole system. 3. Delete anything with suspicious attachments - that your Anti-virus program does not detect. Lastly there is to be NO discussion on list of this topic !!! - if you are concerned my address is below - but before contacting me, check out your Anti- virus program Web - Site for additional information, also for removal programs should you be inadvertently be infected. All the Best Helen Helen M Verrall Temp List Administrator. mailto:hverrall@ihug.co.nz         

I do my scanning every day Helen Verrall wrote: > Friends > > A new virus , with a twist, has been released, it appears to not only > collect address from an Address Book but also reaps them from your Mail > Box. > Three plus myself have received mail sent from other lists, to which we > are not subscribed. > > Subject: varies - usually mail is in HTML -Subject RE: ....... > > These are the details - the attachment is a screen saver - and has > varied names but are all the BUG_BEAR Virus > > Check out this site for more detail- > http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/index.html > > Do these things - > 1. Update your Anti - Virus Program > 2. Then run a scan of your whole system. > 3. Delete anything with suspicious attachments - that your Anti-virus > program does not detect. > > Lastly there is to be NO discussion on list of this topic !!! > > - if you are concerned my address is below - but before contacting me, > check out your Anti- virus program Web - Site for additional > information, also for removal programs should you be inadvertently be > infected. > > All the Best > > Helen > > Helen M Verrall > Temp List Administrator. > mailto:hverrall@ihug.co.nz > > > > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: Jane Gillard Sent: 23 September 2002 14:10 To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES] Census Look-up Request Hi Listers, If anyone on the list is viewing the census for 1851 or 1861 for Hartshill and get a chance, could they please look-up: Samuel COOPER, b. 1833, wife Eliza COOPER (CLARK(E)), b. 1833. Richard and Samuel could be listed as children. Also, when I get into the 1833 time period for a birth (in Hartshill) where do I start looking for the correct birth date so I can get hold of the certificates? <<<<<<<< no NO Certificates before the third quartet of 1837 when Civíl Registration started Use parish registers etc from 1837 to about 1888 around 10% not registered see the various FAQ Hugh W --Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

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Hi Listers, If anyone on the list is viewing the census for 1851 or 1861 for Hartshill and get a chance, could they please look-up: Samuel COOPER, b. 1833, wife Eliza COOPER (CLARK(E)), b. 1833. Richard and Samuel could be listed as children. Also, when I get into the 1833 time period for a birth (in Hartshill) where do I start looking for the correct birth date so I can get hold of the certificates? Thanks, Jane Gillard Nova Scotia, Canada http://www3.sympatico.ca/timanus/