List - Is there anyone with interests in a family named Higgs? They were in the Bilston/Wolverhampton area in 1881, in Hanley in 1901 and spent some time in Wigan, Lancashire in between. I am interested in Alfred and Mary Ann (Webb) Higgs who were married in Wigan in 1897. Tom _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Resubscribing after a holiday I re-state my surname interests in the potteries RUSHTON of Silverdale, Knutton, & Keele CORK of Betley, & Silverdale HINKLEY of Betley WHITTINGHAM and RHODES of Newcastle LOWE of Newcastle and Wolstanton ANDERSON of Fenton, later of Silverdale FORRESTER of Bucknall/Bagnall BILLINGTON of Basford. A Richard Billington mysteriously appeared in Dumfries approx 1790 probably from the Potteries since his son married in Stoke a Mary BAKER in 1817 Also married into family members the following ALLMAN, BAGLEY, BARNISH, BASS, COTTERILL, EMBLING, FELTMAN, HOLLINS, HOLT, JOHNSON, LAWTON, LINGARD, OAKLEY, SALT, SEABRIDGE, SIMISTER, SHENTON, STANYER, SLATER, THOMPSON, WASHINGTON, WHALLEY, WILKINSON, WINSTANLEY.

Hi All Just to let you know that .... All marriages (45,701) for the Lichfield Registration District - 1837 to 1952 Have now been added to the Staffordshire BMD site (NB this Registration District Includes Tamworth) For a FULL list of areas covered check out the areas covered link from the Marriages page www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk regards Bill and Eric

what rhodes newcastle info do you have as we may have a connection as we are rhodes from hanley and are trying to establish a link. JANET

I did some work for a lady in Canada on the Anderson/Lowe families and still have some notes if you let me know what you have/need. JANET

Thanks for the advice Graham Maybe I will return to the land of my ancestry one day Cheers Leon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Pointon" <graham_pointon@lineone.net> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 2:30 PM Subject: RE: [Pots] ELLEN KNAPPER nee WALLIS Potter's Gilder > Dear Leon, > > Unless you're very lucky, you won't be able to find which pottery Ellen Wallis worked for - there have been so many over the years, > and many of them lasted a very short time before going bankrupt or being taken over. You are right about her job, though, and a very > skilled job it is, as are many in the pottery industry. You should pay another visit to the Potteries - you would be very pleasantly > surprised with how clean the air is nowadays! > > Hope this helps. > > Graham > > > -----Original Message----- > From: L K Knapper [mailto:Leon.Knapper1@Btinternet.com] > Sent: 26 April 2003 09:16 > To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Pots] ELLEN KNAPPER nee WALLIS Potter's Gilder > > > Hi Listers, > > Though my forebears were born and brought up in the Potteries, sadly I have to confess to little knowledge of the > area. I can remember only one visit as a child to my father's auntie Louis's ( porbably Lucy Ann Wallis)sweet shop in Litchfield > Street amidst the smog and having come from North Wales where the air was clean and fresh wondering why the air there was so smoky. > I know now that it was probably caused by the myriad pottery kilns belching smoke into the local atmosphere. Which brings me to the > point of this E-mail. > I have discovered from the 1901 census, (the free bit!! I really must check up the full information and not be so penny pinching!) > that my grandmother Ellen Wallis from Burslem was a Potter's Gilder. Am I right in thinking that her job involved putting the gold > decoration around various types of pottery or china? > Secondly, as she lived in Burslem is there any way that I could find out which pottery company she may have worked for or is that a > very tall order? > Kind regards > > Leon Knapper > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.471 / Virus Database: 269 - Release Date: 10/04/03 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.471 / Virus Database: 269 - Release Date: 10/04/03 > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire >

Dear Leon, Unless you're very lucky, you won't be able to find which pottery Ellen Wallis worked for - there have been so many over the years, and many of them lasted a very short time before going bankrupt or being taken over. You are right about her job, though, and a very skilled job it is, as are many in the pottery industry. You should pay another visit to the Potteries - you would be very pleasantly surprised with how clean the air is nowadays! Hope this helps. Graham -----Original Message----- From: L K Knapper [mailto:Leon.Knapper1@Btinternet.com] Sent: 26 April 2003 09:16 To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Pots] ELLEN KNAPPER nee WALLIS Potter's Gilder Hi Listers, Though my forebears were born and brought up in the Potteries, sadly I have to confess to little knowledge of the area. I can remember only one visit as a child to my father's auntie Louis's ( porbably Lucy Ann Wallis)sweet shop in Litchfield Street amidst the smog and having come from North Wales where the air was clean and fresh wondering why the air there was so smoky. I know now that it was probably caused by the myriad pottery kilns belching smoke into the local atmosphere. Which brings me to the point of this E-mail. I have discovered from the 1901 census, (the free bit!! I really must check up the full information and not be so penny pinching!) that my grandmother Ellen Wallis from Burslem was a Potter's Gilder. Am I right in thinking that her job involved putting the gold decoration around various types of pottery or china? Secondly, as she lived in Burslem is there any way that I could find out which pottery company she may have worked for or is that a very tall order? Kind regards Leon Knapper ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.471 / Virus Database: 269 - Release Date: 10/04/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.471 / Virus Database: 269 - Release Date: 10/04/03

Hello Everyone I have just received copy of marriage certificate for John TURNER and Elizabeth BRAIN: Married 11th November 1867 Parish of Fenton, Stafford John TURNER age 20, Condition: Bachelor, Rank or Profession: Miner, Residence: Market Street, Fenton, Father: William TURNER (miner) Elizabeth BRAIN age 20, Condition: Spinster, residence: Park Street Fenton, Father: Peter BRAIN (miner) witness's William Palmer Caroline Hopkins If anyone has this couple in their family I would love to hear from them. Also if SKS has access to the 1861 Census and can find either or both of these family's I would be eternally grateful, I know its a big ask. Regards Linda Hodd

Hi Listers, Though my forebears were born and brought up in the Potteries, sadly I have to confess to little knowledge of the area. I can remember only one visit as a child to my father's auntie Louis's ( porbably Lucy Ann Wallis)sweet shop in Litchfield Street amidst the smog and having come from North Wales where the air was clean and fresh wondering why the air there was so smoky. I know now that it was probably caused by the myriad pottery kilns belching smoke into the local atmosphere. Which brings me to the point of this E-mail. I have discovered from the 1901 census, (the free bit!! I really must check up the full information and not be so penny pinching!) that my grandmother Ellen Wallis from Burslem was a Potter's Gilder. Am I right in thinking that her job involved putting the gold decoration around various types of pottery or china? Secondly, as she lived in Burslem is there any way that I could find out which pottery company she may have worked for or is that a very tall order? Kind regards Leon Knapper

Leon - just to say I did ask my Dad if her knew Express Toffees, but unfortunately he didn't. Hope you get help from elsewhere - I know how great it is when you do! Best wishes, Clare Stride

Hi Listers, I wonder if SKS would do a lookup in the 1891 census for Daniel Shelock who would have been about 21 years old. On Daniels marriage to my grandmother in 1992 the certificate states that his fathers name was Reuben. On the LDS 1881 census the only Reuben that I can find is living at 6 Princes St Newcastle-u-Lyne, but his son of the right age is another Reuben. I suspect that because I cannot find a Daniel on the 1881 census that Granddad chose to use the name Daniel rather than Reuben. "Daniels " birthplace on the 1901 census was stated to be S-o-T but on the birth index on 1837 website the only Sherlock that I can find in the right period is Reuben mark 2. Also FreeBMD only shows Reuben mark 2. I have applied for his birth certificate but I suspect that it will not break the wall. Granddad and Grandma were married at St. Marks Shelton in 1892, so it is possible that "Daniel" may not have been living at home with Reuben mark 1 during the 1891 census. Thank you in anticipation. Terry Brooks

Thanks for that Janet. A lovely story. Will pass it on to my dad, Harold son of Herbert who worked in the toffee factory. He will be 90 this year. I will see if he remembers Old Mother Plant's toffee. Best wishes Leon Knapper ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Singleton" <Hywel@risinsun.co.uk> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 9:40 PM Subject: [Pots] Brough's Shop and "Old Mother Plant's Toffee" > Hi > > I ask my Dad about "Express Toffee" - but he said as a child in 1930's going > to Porthill from Tunstall was like going to another world - I guess people > did not travel about as much as we do today! > > But he does remember "Old Mother Plant's" toffee (made in Tunstall??) and > standing at a shop window drooling over the bars through the window. The > shop was called "Bough's" and he remembers it from mid 1920's to late > 1930's. It was on the corner of Lower Henry Street and the short street > connecting it with Henry Street proper. It was a grocers selling medicines, > sweets and coal as well. Old Mrs Bough he remembers well and her daughter > who took over the shop, and the grandchildren growing up. He remembers Old > Mrs Brough sitting in the shop as her legs were not too good and saving > pennies and a yound lad from Aug to Christmas to buy liquorice allsorts (he > still has the tin!) > > My father is 84 in a few days and can walk me round Old Tunstall from the > map in his head - I have an old map and he can navigate me, over the phone, > around these places. > > So no luck with Mr Knapper, but the question elicited a lovely memory from > my Dad! > > Janet Howell > www.risinsun.co.uk > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0 - Release Date: 21/11/02 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "L K Knapper" <Leon.Knapper1@Btinternet.com> > To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 9:36 AM > Subject: [Pots] KNAPPER family > > > > Good Morning Listers > > > > I just wonder whether anyone has knowledge > of a sweet factory which produced confectionary between the two world wars > under the name of "Express Toffees". It was situated at Porthill S.O.T had > its own railway siding and was owned by my grandfather Herbert Knapper. > > Regards > > Leon Knapper > > > > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire >

Hi I ask my Dad about "Express Toffee" - but he said as a child in 1930's going to Porthill from Tunstall was like going to another world - I guess people did not travel about as much as we do today! But he does remember "Old Mother Plant's" toffee (made in Tunstall??) and standing at a shop window drooling over the bars through the window. The shop was called "Bough's" and he remembers it from mid 1920's to late 1930's. It was on the corner of Lower Henry Street and the short street connecting it with Henry Street proper. It was a grocers selling medicines, sweets and coal as well. Old Mrs Bough he remembers well and her daughter who took over the shop, and the grandchildren growing up. He remembers Old Mrs Brough sitting in the shop as her legs were not too good and saving pennies and a yound lad from Aug to Christmas to buy liquorice allsorts (he still has the tin!) My father is 84 in a few days and can walk me round Old Tunstall from the map in his head - I have an old map and he can navigate me, over the phone, around these places. So no luck with Mr Knapper, but the question elicited a lovely memory from my Dad! Janet Howell www.risinsun.co.uk Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0 - Release Date: 21/11/02 ----- Original Message ----- From: "L K Knapper" <Leon.Knapper1@Btinternet.com> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 9:36 AM Subject: [Pots] KNAPPER family > Good Morning Listers > > I just wonder whether anyone has knowledge of a sweet factory which produced confectionary between the two world wars under the name of "Express Toffees". It was situated at Porthill S.O.T had its own railway siding and was owned by my grandfather Herbert Knapper. > Regards > Leon Knapper > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > > >

Further to my earlier response, have studied the entry and think the following are correct: Mira Ibbs, 16, is "neice", (and therefore could be the dtr of Mira Bott, who could have since married.) Anne Ibbs, 8, is bracketed with Chas Ibbs, and noted as "Dtr of above" Keith

Janet Singleton please contact me off list.

Thank you Keith for that extra info Janet Howell www.risinsun.co.uk Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0 - Release Date: 21/11/02 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith & Merle Hackney" <keith.hackney@xtra.co.nz> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 10:14 AM Subject: [Pots] BOTT - 1851 Lookup request > Further to my earlier response, have studied the entry and think the following are correct: > > Mira Ibbs, 16, is "neice", (and therefore could be the dtr of Mira Bott, who could have since married.) > Anne Ibbs, 8, is bracketed with Chas Ibbs, and noted as "Dtr of above" > > Keith > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > > >

Hi Janet, This might be who you are looking for: the print isn't the best: 34 Longton Road: Sam'l Ibbs, Head, widower, 28, coal carrier, b Stafford, Longton Mira (?) Bott, sister, married, 34, (occ illegible), b Longton Mira Ibbs, ??, 16, Unm, servant, b Longton Chas Ibbs, brother, 23, unm, labourer, b Longton Anne Ibbs, ??, 8, Plus two lodgers There is another Ibbs family living at No 33 also. Can send a copy of the entry if you would like it, your eyes might be better than mine! Incidentally, I have some friends name Ibbs, from Potteries, who are researching their tree. Keith, New Zealand

Good Morning Listers I just wonder whether anyone has knowledge of a sweet factory which produced confectionary between the two world wars under the name of "Express Toffees". It was situated at Porthill S.O.T had its own railway siding and was owned by my grandfather Herbert Knapper. Regards Leon Knapper

This is the BOTT family I am trying to find in 1851 to find relationships and places of birth 1841 HO107 991/5/28 Swifts Court George DANIEL.55..miner...y Peter BOTT....30..potter..y Jane..........30..........n Thomas........18..........n Rosana........13..........n William.......11..........n Peter..........9..........n James..........7..........y Mariah.........5..........y Sarah..........3..........y John...........2..........y Mary...........1..........y The reference I gave was one looked up in the 1851 index as a possible location for the family. Mira Bott, sister to Samuel Ibbs must be an Ibbs married to a Bott (who does not appear to be home on census night). The James Bott above is my gggrandfather. There is certainly an Ibbs/Bott conection - would be interesting to know which BOTT Mira married. Many thanks for your efforts Janet Howell www.risinsun.co.uk Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0 - Release Date: 21/11/02 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith & Merle Hackney" <keith.hackney@xtra.co.nz> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 4:38 AM Subject: [Pots] BOTT - 1851 Lookup request > Hi Janet, > > This might be who you are looking for: the print isn't the best: > > 34 Longton Road: > Sam'l Ibbs, Head, widower, 28, coal carrier, b Stafford, Longton > Mira (?) Bott, sister, married, 34, (occ illegible), b Longton > Mira Ibbs, ??, 16, Unm, servant, b Longton > Chas Ibbs, brother, 23, unm, labourer, b Longton > Anne Ibbs, ??, 8, > Plus two lodgers > > There is another Ibbs family living at No 33 also. > > Can send a copy of the entry if you would like it, your eyes might be better than mine! Incidentally, I have some friends name Ibbs, from Potteries, who are researching their tree. > > Keith, > New Zealand > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > > >

Has anyone got access to 1851 census and could lookup this entry? BOTT Living Longton Road, Longton HO107/2007 Sched. 466 Many thanks in anticipation Janet Howell www.risinsun.co.uk Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0 - Release Date: 21/11/02