Hi List, I have just looked up the Old Maps site and found a reference to Knappers T P on the London Rd close to Grindley House. I believe the houses on the left hand side may be the location of 10 & 12 Knappers Gate and also that of the White Cottage by the bridge over the Trent and Mersey Canal. A number of Gentlemen of the Road would seek shelter in the Workhouse where they would receive two nights accommodation and food for one day. To avoid contributing to the cost of food [1d] they would hide their money behind the loose bricks under the bridge. One day a Gentleman called on my Great Aunt Elsie to complain that his hidden money had been stolen. My GAunt suggested that when he next came this way to give it to hersg for safekeeping which he did later. News got around and there would be several jamjars with a few pennies in each on the mantle and no matter how hard up she was the jamjar money was never touched. TP may refer to Turnpike of which there were several Trusts in the 18th Century responsible for road maintenance. Would be grateful if someone could confirm I have the right location. Mike Waterlooville

Hi All, Having been given some wonderful help from this list, I am now going to push my luck as ask if anyone has access to the 1851/1861 Census I am looking for: John TURNER born 1847, Hanley, Stoke-On-Trent, Staffs, father William TURNER, this is as much as I know, I know this is not much information to go on, I don't even have an address. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Linda - East Sussex

Hi Rolf Thanks very much for the info, it was quite a big help. I have finally run him to ground thanks to a suggestion from Pam White, he was under a completely different surname. Cheers Linda - East Sussex UK

Hi Pam, Many thanks for suggestion, you were quite right, It was under a completely different name, I would never have found him any other way. Thanks Linda - East Sussex UK

Hi Mike, had a search on Google and looked at the Ordnance Survey map - but no Knappers Gate. Sorry. Anne ---------- >From: Hillmoore@aol.com >To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Pots] KNAPPERS GATE >Date: Thu, Oct 9, 2003, 10:13 > > Hi List, > Could some kind soul tell me where I could find Knappersgate? It is in > the Newcastle U Lyme area and the birthplace of so many of my MOORLEY kith > and kin. > > Mike > Waterlooville > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire >

If you find out about this connection, I would be interested to know more. My great-grandmother Emily Sparkes worked for both the Pankhursts at their offices in Edgbaston and the Chamberlain's. I am, as yet, to find out when though. Jennifer

Hi Gang! Thurs 10th Oct 2003 is the centenary of the founding of the Women's Political and Social Union by Emmeline PANKHURST. I found out this week that my ggg-mother was Mary PANKHURST. I was wondering about a connection... Emmeline GOULDEN m. Richard Marsden PANKHURST, a lawyer, educated at Manchester GS. (according to a brief biography I found via Google) Richard was born in Stoke in 1834 (altho' on the 1881 census his age is 44? - Emmeline is 22) 'My' Mary was b. 1835 Hanley the dau. of William Horatio and Edna PANKHURST. Wm was born in Clerkenwell, Middlesex and was a manufacturer. I found on the 1881 census that a possible candidate for Richard's father is James W. PANKHURST living at Villa, Barlaston, b. Middlesex, by coincidence(?), also a manufacturer. Are these guys brothers? Has anyone come across any info which might help? In view of the centenary, I thought I'd ask. TIA Andy.

Thanks for trying Anne. Its the name of a road or lane not far from Trentham. At the turn of the century (1900) the family lived in White Cottage or White Bridge Cottage and were there until the late 1920's. This cottage was destroyed when the road was widened. Mike Waterlooville

Hi List, Could some kind soul tell me where I could find Knappersgate? It is in the Newcastle U Lyme area and the birthplace of so many of my MOORLEY kith and kin. Mike Waterlooville

Tim if you are into reading LDS films try no. 1655359 parish of Astbury, Cheshire, mostly bishops transcripts for nearly 300 years, which means page after page of fine handwriting, some of it very dark, a lot of it photographed 2 or 3 times. At the end it goes into direct copies of the parish (both Astbury and Congleton) from about 1780-1817. I noticed a lot of Wootons there while looking for Wildbloods, (VERY few of them ) and Vernons. Good luck. S.G.Stubbs P.S. If you order it, give yourself at least 6 weeks to read it thru.SGS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Callaghan" <tim.callaghan@4hstc.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:02 PM Subject: [Pots] Reposting Interests > I am researching the following names - > > BANKS : Stretton (Cheshire), Manchester (Lancs) > BRADBURY : Lymm (Cheshire) > BROWNBILL : St Helens (Lancs) > CALLAGHAN : St Helens (Lancs), Ireland > DANIELS : Bowdon (Cheshire) > GABRIEL : St Helens (Lancs), Liverpool (Lancs) > GRATWICH : Barlaston (Staffs) > HIGHAM : Lymm (Cheshire), Leigh (Lancs) > JOHNSON : Over Peover (Cheshire) > JOHNS(T)ON : Wallasey (Cheshire), Birkenhead (Cheshire), Hull (East Riding), > North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland), Ryton (Co. Durham) > JONES : Whitchurch (Shrops) > LEIGH : Lymm (Cheshire) > MILLER : Lymm (Cheshire), Grappenhall (Cheshire) > MOSTON/MOSSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Over Peover (Cheshire) > NORBURY : Liverpool (Lancs) > PERCIVAL : Lymm (Cheshire), Antrobus (Cheshire) > RICHARDSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Prescot (Lancs) > TABERN : St Helens (Lancs) > THOMPSON : North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland) > WILLIAMSON : Cheshire > WINSTANLEY : Lymm (Cheshire) > WOOTTON : Barlaston (Staffs), Moddershall (Staffs), Stone (Staffs) > > I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests. > > Thanks > > Tim > > > > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire >

Any NIXON researchers out there who have done work on the Cheddleton or Leek branches of the family? Just curious if anyone has a view on the relationship (if any) between the Ann NIXON who married John BARLOW on 21 Sep 1749 at Leek and the Mary NIXON who married Benjamin BARLOW on 13 Jul 1784 at Leek. Regards Earl

Dear All My GRATTON's in 1881 are: Dwelling at 78 King St Census Place Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England Wm. GRATTON Head M Male 41 Stone, Stafford, England Coal Miner Emma Ann GRATTON Wife M Female 40 Hanley, Stafford, England Sarah Ann GRATTON Daur U Female 17 Hanley, Stafford, England Card Room Hand William GRATTON Son Male 14 Hanley, Stafford, England Labourer Joseph GRATTON Son Male 12 Marton, Stafford, England Labourer Samuel GRATTON Son Male 8 Marton, Stafford, England Scholar Annie E. GRATTON Daur Female 3 Marton, Stafford, England Thomas GRATTON Son Male 1 Woodley, Cheshire, England Does anyone have a connection to this family? Best regards Roger Marsh Sheffield, UK

Hello Linda, In 1901 Census you find: Peter TURNER / Head / Married / 28 / Coal Miner / Worker / Fenton, Staffs Sarah A TURNER / Wife / Married / 26 / Undefined / Walsall, Staffs John TURNER / Son / 5 / Undefined / Ranford, Lancs Harriet TURNER / Daughter / 4 / Undefined / St Helens, Lancs Peter TURNER / Son / 2 / Undefined / Shire Oaks, Staffs Address: 78 St Marys Row, Walsall - Ecclesiastical Parish: Christ Church Blakenall Heath PRO Ref RG13 - Piece 2696 - Folio 28 - Page 48 - Schedule 286 Conclusion: Your Peter TURNER is propably up in the County of Lancashire in the 1891 Census. (See Childrens Birth places) Wishing you a good day and wonderful hunting! Best regards, Rolf the Swiss ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Hodd" <linda.hodd@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 4:22 AM Subject: [Pots] Advise Needed > Looking to SKS for advise, I have been searching the 1891 Census on > Ancestry.com for the following > > Peter TURNER born 5 February 1871 Fenton, Stoke-on-Trent > last known address 6 Hitchman Street, Stoke-on-Trent this is the address > given on his marriage certificate, and as he married in September 1891 at > St.Michaels Church Fenton, he cannot of moved to far away, other members of > family: > > Father John TURNER b.1847 Hanley > Mother Elizabeth TURNER b 1847 Fenton > Sister Harriet Elizabeth TURNER (maiden name BRAIN) b.1873 Fenton > Sister Elizabeth TURNER b.1879 Fenton > > Although his father was deceased by the time he got married, I don't know > when he died, but I did find him on the 1881 Census. > I have tried various ways of spelling TURNER, so any advise on trying to > locate this person would be very welcome. > Linda > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > > >

Looking to SKS for advise, I have been searching the 1891 Census on Ancestry.com for the following Peter TURNER born 5 February 1871 Fenton, Stoke-on-Trent last known address 6 Hitchman Street, Stoke-on-Trent this is the address given on his marriage certificate, and as he married in September 1891 at St.Michaels Church Fenton, he cannot of moved to far away, other members of family: Father John TURNER b.1847 Hanley Mother Elizabeth TURNER b 1847 Fenton Sister Harriet Elizabeth TURNER (maiden name BRAIN) b.1873 Fenton Sister Elizabeth TURNER b.1879 Fenton Although his father was deceased by the time he got married, I don't know when he died, but I did find him on the 1881 Census. I have tried various ways of spelling TURNER, so any advise on trying to locate this person would be very welcome. Linda

Thanks Steve, I appreciate the offer of help. Regards Jacqui

Jacqui - I am away from home at present and cannot get to my books - I will send a summary on Friday if you have no other takers Steve -----Original Message----- From: COOPERS176@aol.com [mailto:COOPERS176@aol.com] Sent: 05 October 2003 18:49 To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Pots] Re: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D Digest V03 #205 I note with interest the request for information of a Port Vale player. My mothers cousin was Wilf Kirkham, who I understand still holds 2 records for Port Vale. I would be very grateful for further information regarding his football career and achievements, as well as details of the man himself. Regards Jacqui Cooper ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003

Linda: Try just the first name, approximate age, and place of birth. You might have to slog through quite a few, but I found my friend's William Fox transcribed as William Fos. I never would have thought to try that spelling. Happy Hunting! Pamela White Victoria BC Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Hodd" <linda.hodd@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 8:22 PM Subject: [Pots] Advise Needed > Looking to SKS for advise, I have been searching the 1891 Census on > Ancestry.com for the following > > Peter TURNER born 5 February 1871 Fenton, Stoke-on-Trent > last known address 6 Hitchman Street, Stoke-on-Trent this is the address > given on his marriage certificate, and as he married in September 1891 at > St.Michaels Church Fenton, he cannot of moved to far away, other members of > family: > > Father John TURNER b.1847 Hanley > Mother Elizabeth TURNER b 1847 Fenton > Sister Harriet Elizabeth TURNER (maiden name BRAIN) b.1873 Fenton > Sister Elizabeth TURNER b.1879 Fenton > > Although his father was deceased by the time he got married, I don't know > when he died, but I did find him on the 1881 Census. > I have tried various ways of spelling TURNER, so any advise on trying to > locate this person would be very welcome. > Linda > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire >

Hello I'd be very grateful if anyone can look in any 1870s and 1880s directories for James ROUSE ( born 1833 ), a china painter, who was in the Longton area in the late 1870s. Thanks in anticipation. Christine Rouse Derby

Sorry listers, I forgot to paste. Senility marches on! http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/index.html Terry B.

Hello Listers, I have only just found this site but for anyone searching among the unfortunates of the 1881 society this may help. For thos who are already aware of this site my apologies. Terry B.