Jack Written that way is not as confusing - I looked through the Vital Records Index, and baulked at the number of John and Samuel Leighs in the Records. I wish you successful hunting. One day everything will fall into place - I am sure!! Regards Helen New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: Jack Leigh [mailto:jack.leigh@shaw.ca] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 9:01 AM To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Pots] Re: Rev Samuel LEIGH In reply to Ann SIMCOCK, my "possible" PARR relationship is given later in this message. In reply to Helen Verrall regarding the generations in my earlier message, Rev Samuel LEIGH (1785-1852) was possibly a brother of my grandfather's great grandfather, therefore my 3 x gt grandfather. I phrased it that way, confusing though it might be on a quick reading, because it was my grandfather's firm belief, stated in family notes he left, and letters he wrote to cousins in the 1950s. Unfortunately he didn't say where he received the information -- I can only assume through family sources long gone. To add to the confusion, every male LEIGH direct ancestor of mine is either a John (usually with a brother Samuel) or a Samuel (usually with a brother John) so writing about them can be very confusing to others. Here's my LEIGH descent as far as I have it. All except my Dad and I were born in the Potteries or near to them. John Laurence ....me (born Vancouver, BC, Canada) John Laurence (1906-1996) ....my dad (in Canada from 1907) John (1879-1966) ....my grandad (Rev. John LEIGH, in Canada from 1907) Samuel (1843-1899) ....my 1 x gt grandad (a potter & farmer in Armitage) Samuel (1814-1863) ....my 2 x gt grandad (a potter in Hanley) John (1792-1867) ....my 3 x gt grandad (a potter's printer in Burslem to 1830, Villeroy & Boch in Wallerfangen, Saarland, from 1830 unknown ....my 4 x gt grandad I've been trying to find my unknown 4 x gt grandad for about 25 years. If I take my grandfather's belief at face value, he will be Matthew LEIGH, the father of Rev. Samuel. Matthew married Hannah UNWIN in Biddulph 1775 March 6. My grandfather left a lot of family information and I have been independently able to confirm all of it except the story about Rev. Samuel. Since the direct approach through my 3 x gt grandad John didn't work in finding his parents (there are too many John LEIGH's born about the same time - 1792 - in the same area), I decided to try the indirect approach by researching Rev. Samuel. This way I hoped both to prove my grandfather's belief and to find my 4 x gt grandfather. But no luck. With the help of other family members in Australia and England, I have extensively researched Rev. Samuel's genealogy without proving that 3 x gt grandad John was a brother of Rev. Samuel. I have the names of Rev. Samuel's parents, brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, etc. including most baptisms, marriages, and some deaths (baptisms are in Milton in the parish of Norton in the Moors, and Biddulph). I have read all the books which refer to Rev. Samuel, innumerable encyclopedia entries, and written to the authors of some of the academic research regarding Rev. Samuel. I have researched wills, parish registers, census entries, monumental inscriptions, etc. I have the PCC will of Rev Samuel himself (it mentions only his 2nd wife, Elizabeth KAYE). I also have the PCC will of Rev Samuel's solicitor brother Ralph of Hanley. Ralph's will is a genealogical delight because he names more than 20 relatives including his wife, Mary THORNICROFT, various stepchildren (of Ralph) including William THORNICROFT, ironmonger, and deceased John THORNICROFT, and John's under-age daughters Mary Ann and Matilda; sister Hannah, wife of Joshua PARR, and their son Matthew Leigh PARR; deceased sister Mary, first wife of Enoch KEELING of Etruria; Mary and Enoch's children Sarah KEELING and Esther BIRCH, wife of Joseph BIRCH of Hanley; sister Ann wife of John WILLET, farmer of Milton; brother Joseph, innkeeper of Hanley (The Dog and Partridge), and brother Samuel (Rev. Samuel). But no brother John. However, there is still a perhaps remote possibility, or maybe he was a cousin, not a brother? ............ Jack Leigh >Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 15:25:05 +1300 >From: "Helen Verrall" <hverrall@ihug.co.nz> >Subject: RE: [Pots] LEIGH/Rev. Samuel LEIGH family interests >Jack > >I'm curious as to generations here - you say Rev. Leigh ( 1785 - 1852 >was possibly a brother of your Gt Grandfather. I am not challenging >this only querying the generation, as my 3Xgt Grandfather was born in >1799 , - my Gt Grandparents were born bet 1846 and 1853. >Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 07:10:38 -0000 >From: "Ann Simcock" <ann.simcock@virgin.net> >Subject: Re: [Pots] LEIGH/Rev. Samuel LEIGH family interests > >Dear Jack, I noted your possible connection to the Parr family. My main >interest on my mother's side is Parr, particularly as a Parr married a Parr >of two different lines. They came from Tunstall/Burslem. My grandfather >was Arthur Maddock Parr born 1883 and he married Martha Ann Parr born 1883. >I have connections of both sides back to 1800 and possibly even further. >Regards Ann Simcock ======================================================================== = 5030 Meadfeild Road, West Vancouver, BC, Canada V7W 3G2 (604) 926-4422 ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire

Dear Listers Does anyone have access to the parish registers for shelton, Hanley l am looking for My 5x gt gr William TOMLINSON all have is his will that is dated 19.10.1819 saying he was late of solihull in the county of warwick,but now of Hanley in the parish of Stoke on trent, in the county of stafford, Yeoman, so l thinking he died around this time 1819-20 he has three children that l know of .... Jonathan, Hannah, And my 4x grt gr William TOMLINSON Born 1777-1815 who married hannah (----?) l am looking for any info on a William TOMLINSON around these times. the family seemed to be quite well to do, as in his will he has land in shelton, hanley, and left a considerable sum and land ect to his sons and grandchilden nephews in warwickshire in his will he mentioned land in shelton he was about to purchase from Hollins Warburton daniel and company sadly no place names. if anyone has any info on this family l would be very grateful. regards Margaret

I am researching the following names - BANKS : Stretton (Cheshire), Manchester (Lancs) BRADBURY : Lymm (Cheshire) BROWNBILL : St Helens (Lancs) CALLAGHAN : St Helens (Lancs), Ireland DANIELS : Bowdon (Cheshire) GABRIEL : St Helens (Lancs), Liverpool (Lancs) GRATWICH : Barlaston (Staffs) HIGHAM : Lymm (Cheshire), Leigh (Lancs) JOHNSON : Over Peover (Cheshire) JOHNS(T)ON : Wallasey (Cheshire), Birkenhead (Cheshire), Hull (East Riding), North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland), Ryton (Co. Durham) JONES : Whitchurch (Shrops) LEIGH : Lymm (Cheshire) MILLER : Lymm (Cheshire), Grappenhall (Cheshire) MOSTON/MOSSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Over Peover (Cheshire), Marthall (Cheshire) NORBURY : Liverpool (Lancs) PERCIVAL : Lymm (Cheshire), Antrobus (Cheshire) RICHARDSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Prescot (Lancs) TABERN : St Helens (Lancs) THOMPSON : North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland) WILLIAMSON : Cheshire WINSTANLEY : Lymm (Cheshire) WOOTTON : Barlaston (Staffs), Moddershall (Staffs), Stone (Staffs) I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests. Thanks Tim

In reply to Ann SIMCOCK, my "possible" PARR relationship is given later in this message. In reply to Helen Verrall regarding the generations in my earlier message, Rev Samuel LEIGH (1785-1852) was possibly a brother of my grandfather's great grandfather, therefore my 3 x gt grandfather. I phrased it that way, confusing though it might be on a quick reading, because it was my grandfather's firm belief, stated in family notes he left, and letters he wrote to cousins in the 1950s. Unfortunately he didn't say where he received the information -- I can only assume through family sources long gone. To add to the confusion, every male LEIGH direct ancestor of mine is either a John (usually with a brother Samuel) or a Samuel (usually with a brother John) so writing about them can be very confusing to others. Here's my LEIGH descent as far as I have it. All except my Dad and I were born in the Potteries or near to them. John Laurence ....me (born Vancouver, BC, Canada) John Laurence (1906-1996) ....my dad (in Canada from 1907) John (1879-1966) ....my grandad (Rev. John LEIGH, in Canada from 1907) Samuel (1843-1899) ....my 1 x gt grandad (a potter & farmer in Armitage) Samuel (1814-1863) ....my 2 x gt grandad (a potter in Hanley) John (1792-1867) ....my 3 x gt grandad (a potter's printer in Burslem to 1830, Villeroy & Boch in Wallerfangen, Saarland, from 1830 unknown ....my 4 x gt grandad I've been trying to find my unknown 4 x gt grandad for about 25 years. If I take my grandfather's belief at face value, he will be Matthew LEIGH, the father of Rev. Samuel. Matthew married Hannah UNWIN in Biddulph 1775 March 6. My grandfather left a lot of family information and I have been independently able to confirm all of it except the story about Rev. Samuel. Since the direct approach through my 3 x gt grandad John didn't work in finding his parents (there are too many John LEIGH's born about the same time - 1792 - in the same area), I decided to try the indirect approach by researching Rev. Samuel. This way I hoped both to prove my grandfather's belief and to find my 4 x gt grandfather. But no luck. With the help of other family members in Australia and England, I have extensively researched Rev. Samuel's genealogy without proving that 3 x gt grandad John was a brother of Rev. Samuel. I have the names of Rev. Samuel's parents, brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, etc. including most baptisms, marriages, and some deaths (baptisms are in Milton in the parish of Norton in the Moors, and Biddulph). I have read all the books which refer to Rev. Samuel, innumerable encyclopedia entries, and written to the authors of some of the academic research regarding Rev. Samuel. I have researched wills, parish registers, census entries, monumental inscriptions, etc. I have the PCC will of Rev Samuel himself (it mentions only his 2nd wife, Elizabeth KAYE). I also have the PCC will of Rev Samuel's solicitor brother Ralph of Hanley. Ralph's will is a genealogical delight because he names more than 20 relatives including his wife, Mary THORNICROFT, various stepchildren (of Ralph) including William THORNICROFT, ironmonger, and deceased John THORNICROFT, and John's under-age daughters Mary Ann and Matilda; sister Hannah, wife of Joshua PARR, and their son Matthew Leigh PARR; deceased sister Mary, first wife of Enoch KEELING of Etruria; Mary and Enoch's children Sarah KEELING and Esther BIRCH, wife of Joseph BIRCH of Hanley; sister Ann wife of John WILLET, farmer of Milton; brother Joseph, innkeeper of Hanley (The Dog and Partridge), and brother Samuel (Rev. Samuel). But no brother John. However, there is still a perhaps remote possibility, or maybe he was a cousin, not a brother? ............ Jack Leigh >Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 15:25:05 +1300 >From: "Helen Verrall" <hverrall@ihug.co.nz> >Subject: RE: [Pots] LEIGH/Rev. Samuel LEIGH family interests >Jack > >I'm curious as to generations here - you say Rev. Leigh ( 1785 - 1852 >was possibly a brother of your Gt Grandfather. I am not challenging >this only querying the generation, as my 3Xgt Grandfather was born in >1799 , - my Gt Grandparents were born bet 1846 and 1853. >Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 07:10:38 -0000 >From: "Ann Simcock" <ann.simcock@virgin.net> >Subject: Re: [Pots] LEIGH/Rev. Samuel LEIGH family interests > >Dear Jack, I noted your possible connection to the Parr family. My main >interest on my mother's side is Parr, particularly as a Parr married a Parr >of two different lines. They came from Tunstall/Burslem. My grandfather >was Arthur Maddock Parr born 1883 and he married Martha Ann Parr born 1883. >I have connections of both sides back to 1800 and possibly even further. >Regards Ann Simcock ========================================================================= 5030 Meadfeild Road, West Vancouver, BC, Canada V7W 3G2 (604) 926-4422

Looking for descendents of George Heath b. 1844 and Elizabeth Heath b. 1847, of Burslem. Children - Eliza b.1869, Emma Elizabeth b. 1871, Mary Ann b. 1874, William George b. 1876, Janet b. 1881, Maud b. 1886, Frederick b. 1889. Thank you, Bryan Small Vancouver, BC, Canada

Jack I'm curious as to generations here - you say Rev. Leigh ( 1785 - 1852 was possibly a brother of your Gt Grandfather. I am not challenging this only querying the generation, as my 3Xgt Grandfather was born in 1799 , - my Gt Grandparents were born bet 1846 and 1853. This is info. you may have - have found the following in the Encyclopaedia of new Zealand Pub. Reed 1961 Samuel Leigh born Milton near Hanley 1st Sept 1785 died Reading Berkshire 2nd May 1852. Married 1. Catherine CLEWES born Staffordshire marriage at 14 DEC 1820 Hanley, Stafford, England ( a childhood friend, she died in Australia. 15 May 1831) 2. Elizabeth Kaye ( Widow) August 1842. There was no issue from either Marriage - but he adopted and brought up 2 of his wife's nieces ( doesn't say which wife) NB As he was brought up in the Congregational Church - converting to Wesleyan Methodist before training for Ministry - He will not appear in Crockfords Directory ( first pub 1868) as they are only of current postings and of C of E Anglican and Episcopalian Clergy. Though married in C of E Church - he and his siblings were more likely to have been Baptised in a Non - conformist Church! Happy Hunting Helen New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: Jack Leigh [mailto:jack.leigh@shaw.ca] Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 9:06 AM To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Pots] LEIGH/Rev. Samuel LEIGH family interests Hello list. I'm prompted to send you my list of STS Potteries family interests. My grandfather was born in Armitage, STS, and my LEIGH family lived previously at Hanley, Burslem, Stoke, and perhaps Norton in the Moors and Biddulph. Proven STS Potteries family connections include KNOWLES, CLIFFORD, MOORCROFT, HALL, DISSINGTON, VALLANCE, PLIMLEY, HUGHES, PASS, SUTTON and COPELAND. Unproven but possible connections include KEELING, HOLDCROFT, CLEWES/CLOWES, WILLET, PARR, and THORNICROFT/THORNEYCROFT. My grandfather was certain that his gt grandfather was a brother of Rev. Samuel LEIGH, the first Wesleyan Methodist missionary to Australia and New Zealand. I have quite a lot of unpublished genealogical information about Rev. Samuel LEIGH which I would be pleased to share with anyone interested. But I haven't been able to prove a relationship between my family and Rev. Samuel LEIGH, thus the list of unproven connections above. ....... Jack Leigh ======================================================================== = 5030 Meadfeild Road, West Vancouver, BC, Canada V7W 3G2 (604) 926-4422 ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire

Steve / Christine Aynsley is not in the Wedgwood Group. Their website is at http://www.aynsley.co.uk/ They have a new book out on the history of the company. Eileen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Stutcinskas" <Steve@Stutcinskas.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 10:05 AM Subject: RE: [Pots] James ROUSE in the potteries > Christine - http://www.wedgwoodmuseum.org.uk/ > > Also note there is only one e in Wedgwood > > Address: The Wedgwood Museum > Barlaston, > Stoke on Trent > ST12 9ES England > > > Telephone: (01782) 282818 > Fax: (01782) 223315 > E-mail: wedgwood.museum@wedgwood.co.uk > info@wedgwoodmuseum.org.uk > > > I believe Ainsley is now in the Wedgwood group

Christine - http://www.wedgwoodmuseum.org.uk/ Also note there is only one e in Wedgwood Address: The Wedgwood Museum Barlaston, Stoke on Trent ST12 9ES England Telephone: (01782) 282818 Fax: (01782) 223315 E-mail: wedgwood.museum@wedgwood.co.uk info@wedgwoodmuseum.org.uk I believe Ainsley is now in the Wedgwood group You should also try Hanley Archives to see if thy have anything on James Rouse http://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/live/welcome.asp?id=2586 Steve -----Original Message----- From: Christine Rouse [mailto:christine@cgrouse.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: 31 October 2003 22:30 To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Pots] James ROUSE in the potteries Hello James ROUSE was a china painter and lived in Longton from the late 1860s until his death in 1891. We know he painted on Wedgewood and Aynesley but don't know whether he worked for specific companies, whether he was contracted to many companies for short periods or whether he ran his own business outworking on various company's products. Can anyone tell me whether there is a museum for Wedgewood or Aynesley which may have information, please? Any other information or thoughts on this subject would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in anticipation. Christine Rouse Derby ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003

Dear Jack, I noted your possible connection to the Parr family. My main interest on my mother's side is Parr, particularly as a Parr married a Parr of two different lines. They came from Tunstall/Burslem. My grandfather was Arthur Maddock Parr born 1883 and he married Martha Ann Parr born 1883. I have connections of both sides back to 1800 and possibly even further. Regards Ann Simcock ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Leigh" <jack.leigh@shaw.ca> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 8:05 PM Subject: [Pots] LEIGH/Rev. Samuel LEIGH family interests > Hello list. I'm prompted to send you my list of STS Potteries family > interests. > > My grandfather was born in Armitage, STS, and my LEIGH family lived > previously at Hanley, Burslem, Stoke, and perhaps Norton in the Moors and > Biddulph. > > Proven STS Potteries family connections include KNOWLES, CLIFFORD, > MOORCROFT, HALL, DISSINGTON, VALLANCE, PLIMLEY, HUGHES, PASS, SUTTON and > COPELAND. > > Unproven but possible connections include KEELING, HOLDCROFT, > CLEWES/CLOWES, WILLET, PARR, and THORNICROFT/THORNEYCROFT. > > My grandfather was certain that his gt grandfather was a brother of Rev. > Samuel LEIGH, the first Wesleyan Methodist missionary to Australia and New > Zealand. I have quite a lot of unpublished genealogical information about > Rev. Samuel LEIGH which I would be pleased to share with anyone interested. > But I haven't been able to prove a relationship between my family and Rev. > Samuel LEIGH, thus the list of unproven connections above. > > ....... Jack Leigh > > > ========================================================================= > 5030 Meadfeild Road, West Vancouver, BC, Canada V7W 3G2 (604) 926-4422 > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire >

Hello Anne Is it possible for you to look up a John Eaton who was born either in Manchester, Salford or in the Leeds area in the early 1900s? Thanks a lot. DJ

Hello James ROUSE was a china painter and lived in Longton from the late 1860s until his death in 1891. We know he painted on Wedgewood and Aynesley but don't know whether he worked for specific companies, whether he was contracted to many companies for short periods or whether he ran his own business outworking on various company's products. Can anyone tell me whether there is a museum for Wedgewood or Aynesley which may have information, please? Any other information or thoughts on this subject would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in anticipation. Christine Rouse Derby

Steve we went to Gladstone this summer, two adults plus two nine year olds and a six year old. We had a lovely day, the boys threw pots and painted gnomes, Wayne and I were hours reading up on all the historical stuff, and it was a very interesting and entertaining day. We really got a feel for the lives and conditions of the workers, our ancestors. did you see the steam engine on Fred Dibners programme this summer? at least, I think it was the one at Gladstone anyway. I hadn't been since I was about 15 (over 20 years ago) and would recommend it to anyone a s a good day out Lisa Stoke on Trent ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Stutcinskas To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 8:46 AM Subject: RE: [Pots] re: POTS Firemen Jill - what did you think of Gladstone - could you share your views, both good and bad. I am interested because I live not far from it and value peoples opinions who only have limited time to see it. While you were there did anyone suggest walking around the "short Street area" ? It’s a couple of hundred yards up past St James' church. It is still rundown but there is work on the go to get it back as a visitor attraction. To anyone visiting Longton - do stop around short Street and stand in front of the old houses - You will get a good sense of what Victorian Longton was about Steve -----Original Message----- From: Lvncmt@aol.com [mailto:Lvncmt@aol.com] Sent: 27 October 2003 21:29 To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Pots] re: POTS Firemen Hello-I have just returned from Staffordshire, attended a family reunion at The Stone House Hotel. We visited the Gladstone Pottery Museum and saw their video about the various jobs/occupations. The "fireman" tended to the coal fires in the bottle kiln and it was quite a bit of responsibility on their shoulders, if the temperature was not kept exactly as it should the entire load of pottery could be ruined. I wouldn't have wanted that job! My family interests are as follows: BANKS in Tittensor, Stone, Eccleshall, Trentham, Stoke EMERY in Eccleshall WALTERS in Eccleshall WRIGHT in Tittensor, Eccleshall ALCOCK in Burslem BARKER in Burslem SEDDON/SEADON in Norton in Moors HARRIS in Burslem, Stone Had a lovely visit, wish I could have spent more time scouting out my ancestors whereabouts. Will have to return!! Jill in California ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003 ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire

Hi List. Researching BISSELL around Rowley Regis Circa 1830-1860 and Rugeley 1860 to date Keith Sharp Greasby Wirral Cheshire

Anne Peat kindly offered to do lookups in above. Would appreciate it if you could find anything about Rev. Francis W. Cassillis Kennedy in Canada. Joan on Vancouver Island

Pammy: in 1927 &38 COLCLOUGH Basil Philip: Studied at Wye College, Toronto 1914, made deacon in 1913. Howard John: studied at Trinity College Dublin, 1878-81, made deacon in 1882. John Harvey: studied at Wycliffe College, Toronto 1911. made deacon 1911 ALLEN: too many to give details - have you any specific names and places? PODMORE: Claude,: studied at Keble College Oxford, 1890, made deacon in 1895 Percy St. Michael: studied at Jesus College Cambridge 1896. made deacon 1890 in Canada UK and Australia. Reginald Thompson: studied at Keble College, Oxford, 1923. made deacon 1927. In 1957: PODMORE, Joseph Henry studied in Lincoln 1945, made deacon 1947 ministered in Birkenhead. 3 pages of ALLENs COLCLOUGH Basil Philip. If you want more details of any, or details of particular ALLENs, let me know. Where in the Potteries did your PODMOREs come from? I have PODMORE ancestors in my tree from Sandon and Stafford. Anne ---------- >From: Pammy <pjleather@sympatico.ca> >To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [Pots] CROCKFORDS CLERICAL DIRECTORIES >Date: Fri, Oct 31, 2003, 13:44 > > see if they have any colcloughs,podmores and Allen > > Anne Peat wrote: > >> I have recently acquired, from our Diocesan Office, which was having to >> dispose of the because of lack of storage space, 3 editions of Crockfords >> Clerical Directories - from 1927, 1938 and 1957-8. >> They contain details of the careers to date of Anglican ( Church of England >> / Episcopalian ) clergymen who were alive at the date of publication, so >> covering the latter part of the 19th and the >> first half of the 20th centuries, in ( as the 1927 edition quaintly puts it) >> " England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, India and the colonies overseas and >> foreign parts."(including Canada, Australia, New Zealand, S Africa ) >> If anyone wants a look-up for a clerical relative, just ask. >> Anne Peat >> >> ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== >> The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire >

Alan - if you were in Longton cemetery you were only a hundred yards from Edensor cemetery - There are about 6 standing stones and several more laid down. Some are in excellent condition Edensor like most other churches became full by 1900 and only folks who had plots booked would be buried there. If you came out of the main entrance of Longton cemetery you face St Greg's School, in Spring Gardens Road. Turn Left and 100 yds you can go left down Goms Mill or turn right into Edensor Road . But before you do look at the kiddies pre school on your right - that is a very old building, and the one behind is even more interesting with its own "yard". Anyway turn right and Edensor church would have been on your left - go in through the gate hole - no gates, and most of the stones are on the left though there are three further up . Steve -----Original Message----- From: Alan Thomas [mailto:avontrent@hotmail.com] Sent: 30 October 2003 15:12 To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Pots] Short Street/Edenser Church Being a nice sunny day I went to have a look at Short Street. As you say Steve, very atmospheric when you look at the row of terraced cottages. Being in that neck of the woods, I had a look around Dresden churchyard and aslso Longton Cemetery. Would Edenser Church have had its own graveyard, or would Longton Cemetery have been used? I am asuming Edenser Church is long gone. Certainly a whole heep of my tree would have been BMD'd at Edenser Church. Also, could anyone tell me if Longton has a Local History Society? _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003

Samuel Colclough Married Ann Podmore April 4 1836 Stoke on trent Anne Peat wrote: > Pammy: > in 1927 &38 > COLCLOUGH > Basil Philip: Studied at Wye College, Toronto 1914, made deacon in 1913. > Howard John: studied at Trinity College Dublin, 1878-81, made deacon in > 1882. > John Harvey: studied at Wycliffe College, Toronto 1911. made deacon 1911 > ALLEN: too many to give details - have you any specific names and places? > PODMORE: Claude,: studied at Keble College Oxford, 1890, made deacon in > 1895 > Percy St. Michael: studied at Jesus College Cambridge 1896. made deacon 1890 > in Canada UK and Australia. > Reginald Thompson: studied at Keble College, Oxford, 1923. made deacon 1927. > > In 1957: > PODMORE, Joseph Henry studied in Lincoln 1945, made deacon 1947 ministered > in Birkenhead. > 3 pages of ALLENs > COLCLOUGH Basil Philip. > If you want more details of any, or details of particular ALLENs, let me > know. > Where in the Potteries did your PODMOREs come from? > I have PODMORE ancestors in my tree from Sandon and Stafford. > Anne > > ---------- > >From: Pammy <pjleather@sympatico.ca> > >To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [Pots] CROCKFORDS CLERICAL DIRECTORIES > >Date: Fri, Oct 31, 2003, 13:44 > > > > > see if they have any colcloughs,podmores and Allen > > > > Anne Peat wrote: > > > >> I have recently acquired, from our Diocesan Office, which was having to > >> dispose of the because of lack of storage space, 3 editions of Crockfords > >> Clerical Directories - from 1927, 1938 and 1957-8. > >> They contain details of the careers to date of Anglican ( Church of England > >> / Episcopalian ) clergymen who were alive at the date of publication, so > >> covering the latter part of the 19th and the > >> first half of the 20th centuries, in ( as the 1927 edition quaintly puts it) > >> " England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, India and the colonies overseas and > >> foreign parts."(including Canada, Australia, New Zealand, S Africa ) > >> If anyone wants a look-up for a clerical relative, just ask. > >> Anne Peat > >> > >> ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > >> The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > > > > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire

Samuel Colclough married Ann Podmore in in 1836 Stoke on trent Anne Peat wrote: > Pammy: > in 1927 &38 > COLCLOUGH > Basil Philip: Studied at Wye College, Toronto 1914, made deacon in 1913. > Howard John: studied at Trinity College Dublin, 1878-81, made deacon in > 1882. > John Harvey: studied at Wycliffe College, Toronto 1911. made deacon 1911 > ALLEN: too many to give details - have you any specific names and places? > PODMORE: Claude,: studied at Keble College Oxford, 1890, made deacon in > 1895 > Percy St. Michael: studied at Jesus College Cambridge 1896. made deacon 1890 > in Canada UK and Australia. > Reginald Thompson: studied at Keble College, Oxford, 1923. made deacon 1927. > > In 1957: > PODMORE, Joseph Henry studied in Lincoln 1945, made deacon 1947 ministered > in Birkenhead. > 3 pages of ALLENs > COLCLOUGH Basil Philip. > If you want more details of any, or details of particular ALLENs, let me > know. > Where in the Potteries did your PODMOREs come from? > I have PODMORE ancestors in my tree from Sandon and Stafford. > Anne > > ---------- > >From: Pammy <pjleather@sympatico.ca> > >To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [Pots] CROCKFORDS CLERICAL DIRECTORIES > >Date: Fri, Oct 31, 2003, 13:44 > > > > > see if they have any colcloughs,podmores and Allen > > > > Anne Peat wrote: > > > >> I have recently acquired, from our Diocesan Office, which was having to > >> dispose of the because of lack of storage space, 3 editions of Crockfords > >> Clerical Directories - from 1927, 1938 and 1957-8. > >> They contain details of the careers to date of Anglican ( Church of England > >> / Episcopalian ) clergymen who were alive at the date of publication, so > >> covering the latter part of the 19th and the > >> first half of the 20th centuries, in ( as the 1927 edition quaintly puts it) > >> " England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, India and the colonies overseas and > >> foreign parts."(including Canada, Australia, New Zealand, S Africa ) > >> If anyone wants a look-up for a clerical relative, just ask. > >> Anne Peat > >> > >> ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > >> The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > > > > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire

Anne, I would like to take you up on your kind offer as given in the Potteries mailing list. My grandfather, Rev. Canon John LEIGH of the Anglican Church of Canada, was alive in the years you mention and I would appreciate a look-up of the entries for him. My LEIGH family came from the Potteries. Since there may be more than one John LEIGH in the lists, here's some background. In 1927, he would be in St John's Central Park, Burnaby, BC, Canada, having left St Paul's, Kamloops, BC, Canada, a year earlier. Prior to that he was variously at Englehart and area, North Cobalt, Cobalt, and Port Arthur (all in Ontario), and Maple Ridge BC. By 1957/58, he was retired in North Vancouver, BC, Canada. While you should probably send the lookups to me off-list, I'm sending this request on-list on the small chance that someone might be interested that I have my grandfather's personal listing of the baptisms and marriages he performed from 1909 through 1949, all entries usually with dates, places, parents, witnesses and godparents recorded. While the list isn't entirely complete, there are over 3,000 names. I would be pleased to search the list for anyone interested. ........ Jack Leigh >Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:14:18 +0000 >From: "Anne Peat" <Anne.Peat@bigwindows.demon.co.uk> >To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Pots] CROCKFORDS CLERICAL DIRECTORIES > >I have recently acquired, from our Diocesan Office, which was having to >dispose of the because of lack of storage space, 3 editions of Crockfords >Clerical Directories - from 1927, 1938 and 1957-8. >They contain details of the careers to date of Anglican ( Church of England >/ Episcopalian ) clergymen who were alive at the date of publication, so >covering the latter part of the 19th and the >first half of the 20th centuries, in ( as the 1927 edition quaintly puts it) >" England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, India and the colonies overseas and >foreign parts."(including Canada, Australia, New Zealand, S Africa ) >If anyone wants a look-up for a clerical relative, just ask. >Anne Peat > ========================================================================= 5030 Meadfeild Road, West Vancouver, BC, Canada V7W 3G2 (604) 926-4422

Hello list. I'm prompted to send you my list of STS Potteries family interests. My grandfather was born in Armitage, STS, and my LEIGH family lived previously at Hanley, Burslem, Stoke, and perhaps Norton in the Moors and Biddulph. Proven STS Potteries family connections include KNOWLES, CLIFFORD, MOORCROFT, HALL, DISSINGTON, VALLANCE, PLIMLEY, HUGHES, PASS, SUTTON and COPELAND. Unproven but possible connections include KEELING, HOLDCROFT, CLEWES/CLOWES, WILLET, PARR, and THORNICROFT/THORNEYCROFT. My grandfather was certain that his gt grandfather was a brother of Rev. Samuel LEIGH, the first Wesleyan Methodist missionary to Australia and New Zealand. I have quite a lot of unpublished genealogical information about Rev. Samuel LEIGH which I would be pleased to share with anyone interested. But I haven't been able to prove a relationship between my family and Rev. Samuel LEIGH, thus the list of unproven connections above. ....... Jack Leigh ========================================================================= 5030 Meadfeild Road, West Vancouver, BC, Canada V7W 3G2 (604) 926-4422