Hi I was wondering if SKS with the 1851 Census Index for staffs could look me up the surname BOSTOCK for SOT or Newcastle. I have the Census but not the index, and am having real trouble with this one. Thanks Russ SMITH

Dear All Could someone please tell me what or where Staffordshire Worth is, this apapears on the 1901 census of my G/grandfather Charles Potts as the place of his birth. Many thanks Pauline --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger

I am descended from Martin and Bridget Ryley (Riley), both born in Ireland about 1826/27. At the 1851 census they were living in Huddersfield Yorkshire and in 1861 they were in Longton Staffordshire. Their youngest child Thomas emigrated to Australia and became my great grandfather. Any connections? Regards Graham Coward -- Graham Coward Melbourne, Australia ===================== Coward Family History Web Site http://www.alphalink.com.au/~coward/ Martin Ryley, born abt 1826 in Ireland, died bef 13 Sep 1880, occupation 1851 Railway Labourer, occupation 1861 Collier. He married Bridget Burke, born abt 1827 in Ireland. 1. Patrick Riley, born abt 1848 in Huddersfield, Yorkshire, occupation Collier / Coal Miner, In 1881 census is living with father-in-law, Thomas Higgins at 9 Cornhill Court, Stoke Upon Trent. He married Mary Higgins, born abt 1853 in Ireland. 2. Winifred Riley, born abt 1851 in Huddersfield, Yorkshire. Married abt Dec 1868, probably to Edward Hughes or William Adams. 3. Mary Ann Riley, born abt 1853 in Huddersfield, Yorkshire. 4. Catherine Riley, born abt 1854 in Huddersfield, Yorkshire. 5. Cicely Riley, born abt 1857 in Longton, Staffordshire, occupation Potter's Cup Handler. Married bef 1881,(unknown) Wardle. 6. Martin Riley, born abt 1859 in Longton, Staffordshire. 7. Thomas Riley, born 7 Dec 1860 in Longton, Staffordshire, arrived abt 1882 in Adelaide S.A., died 27 Apr 1936 in "Lumeah" Private Hospital, Melbourne, buried 29 Apr 1936 in Footscray Cemetary, occupation 1880 Potter's Packer., Married 13 Sep 1880 in Longton, Staffordshire, Susannah Rebecca Walters, born 3 Mar 1861 in Longton, Staffordshire, (daughter of William Walters and Jane Ball) died 22 Oct 1931 in Footscray, Victoria, buried 24 Oct 1931 in Footscray Cemetary, occupation 1881 Potter's Cup Handler. -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail

At 16:41 22/11/03 +0000, Anne wrote: >Andy - have looked on ancestry.com 1891 for all names - no good matches Anne - many thanks for trying. BW Andy.

I am a new subscriber posting my surname interests. H.I.Th. IBBS, potter, had a daughter Mary Ellen for whom he made a commemorative loving cup presented to her on her 5th birthday in 1858. I am having trouble finding any info on the birthplace and wife of H.I.Th. IBBS and would be pleased if any of you could help. When Mary Ellen married my Great Grandfather Michael stephen O'BRIEN, fisherman, at the church of Our Lady, St. Nicholas and St. Ann in 1892 they,according to the 1881census for Liverpool Lancs, already had 2 children. Stephen and Mary Ellen , my grandmother. Mary Ellen IBBS father Thomas was at the wedding and is on their marriage certificate. I would be so pleased if you could help me to find out more about him and his connection to the pottery country. Margaret, Australia.

Andy - have looked on ancestry.com 1891 for all names - no good matches Anne ---------- >From: Andy Micklethwaite <andy@ilocker.freeserve.co.uk> >To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Pots] 1891 lookup >Date: Fri, Nov 21, 2003, 16:30 > > Is SKS able to look up the 1891 census for me? > > I'm having difficulty in tracking down Mary Ann PERRY. She was married > Thomas TURNER in Shelton in 1894 when she gives her age as 23, birthplace > Hanley, residence Sheaf St. Her father is John PERRY (a butcher), her > witnesses William PERRY (brother?) and Laura Selina Amelia PERRY (sister or > sister in law?). The 1881 census is not much help - lots of Perrys and > Parrys to choose from, but no good match! > > So I'm hoping Sheaf St will locate the family. > > BW Andy. Heage, Derbys. > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire >

Thanks Steve and Beverley, the info was just what I needed. regards sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Stutcinskas" <Steve@Stutcinskas.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 10:42 AM Subject: RE: [Pots] Stoke Workhouse hospital > 69 Brook Street Hanley - That is now CENTURY Street > > The main site you need is http://www.workhouses.org.uk/ > > The buildings are still there and photos can be seen on the above site . > > Once on that site - On the LEFT Click WORKHOUSE LISTS > > County-by-county Union Workhouses > England Wales Ireland Scotland > > > Recommended Selection of Unions and Workhouses > Here's a selection of unions that give a flavour of the wide variety of > Union workhouse buildings. > > Abingdon, Berkshire Aylsham, Norfolk Bath, Somerset Beaminster, Dorset > Bolton, Lancashire Bristol, Gloucestershire Cardigan, Cardiganshire > Leeds, Yorkshire > Limerick, Co. Limerick Orkney, Scotland Oxford, Oxfordshire > Southampton, Hampshire Stoke-upon-Trent, Staffordshire St Marylebone, > London Windsor, Berkshire > > CHOOSE STOKE-UPON-TRENT > > Now feast your eyes on one of the best kept workhouses around > > > Steve > > > > > I have just received a death cert for my great grandmother in 1914, she > lived at 69 Brook st Hanley but died of consumption in the workhouse > hospital, the death is registered at stoke upon trent. My query is there > any info on what a workhouse hospital was and is it still there? any > info would be great, > thanks kindly > sue > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003 > > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > >

Andy: I have access to ancestry.com at my FHC. I will be there volunteering tomorrow and will try to find Mary Ann for you. It's amazing how badly some of the names have been transcribed. I have found my McUrich family as Mevrich, McUrinch, and Huch! Will get back to you tomorrow afternoon if I have any luck. I also have the 1851 for N Staffs if you need anything. Pamela White Victoria BC Canada Researching: Ontario - BATES, BOWEN, NICOLL, RICHARDSON, WATTERS, WHITTINGHAM Cornwall - GALE, HOSKIN Cumberland - BATES, FISHER Devon - GALE, WHITTINGHAM London/Middlesex - BOWEN, GALLON (GILLAN) Staffordshire - BAGNALL, WALTON, WHITTINGHAM Angus - BIRNIE BOWEN, BRUCE, DICK, DYE, GARDINER, GEORGE, HAGGART, HOWE, KIDD, NICOL(L), REID, SMITH Banff - ALLAN, GREENLAW, GRAY, MORISON, RAINY, RIDDOCH Perth - BROWN, RICHARDSON Stirling - ALLAN, HENDERSON, MARSHALL, RICHARDSON Queensland - NICOL(L) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Micklethwaite" <andy@ilocker.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:30 AM Subject: [Pots] 1891 lookup > Is SKS able to look up the 1891 census for me? > > I'm having difficulty in tracking down Mary Ann PERRY. She was married Thomas TURNER in Shelton in 1894 when she gives her age as 23, birthplace Hanley, residence Sheaf St. Her father is John PERRY (a butcher), her witnesses William PERRY (brother?) and Laura Selina Amelia PERRY (sister or sister in law?). The 1881 census is not much help - lots of Perrys and Parrys to choose from, but no good match! > > So I'm hoping Sheaf St will locate the family. > > BW Andy. Heage, Derbys. > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire >

Is SKS able to look up the 1891 census for me? I'm having difficulty in tracking down Mary Ann PERRY. She was married Thomas TURNER in Shelton in 1894 when she gives her age as 23, birthplace Hanley, residence Sheaf St. Her father is John PERRY (a butcher), her witnesses William PERRY (brother?) and Laura Selina Amelia PERRY (sister or sister in law?). The 1881 census is not much help - lots of Perrys and Parrys to choose from, but no good match! So I'm hoping Sheaf St will locate the family. BW Andy. Heage, Derbys.

Thanks team! That gives me a headstart. I wonder if it's just coincidence that a miller's grandaughter married a flour and grain salesman... Cheers Pat > Hello > > I can give you a little more detail on these: > > Harriot 27/08/1823 04/10/1823 3rd child of Samuel HULSE, of > Mear > Heath > HULSE by Hannah, d/o Robert SLATER, > Miller > of Lane End > > David 28/01/1825 06/02/1825 4th child of Samuel HULSE, of > Mear > Heath > HULSE by Hannah, d/o Robert SLATER, > Miller > of Lane End > > Emma 30/04/1826 07/05/1826 5th child of Samuel HULSE, of > Mear > Heath > HULSE by Hannah, d/o Robert SLATER, > Miller > of Lane End > > Jacob 16/06/1828 06/07/1828 6th child of Samuel HULSE, of > Mear > Heath > HULSE by Hannah, d/o Robert SLATER, > Miller > of Lane End > > Ann 18/07/1830 05/09/1830 7th child of Samuel HULSE, of > Mear > Heath > HULSE by Hannah, d/o Robert SLATER, > Miller > of Lane End > > Amos 18/02/1833 03/03/1833 8th child of Samuel HULSE, of > Mear > Heath > HULSE by Hannah, d/o Robert SLATER, > Miller > of Lane End > > Best regards > > Eileen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "terrybrooks" <terrybrooks@ntlworld.com> > To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 3:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Pots] Reposting interests > > >> Hello Pat, >> If you want to look, you will find all of these on the IGI on the LDS >> site. Jacob and all the siblings appear to have been baptised at the >> Methodist New Connection Chapel in Longton. I have not yet established if >> this was the same NC chapel where my grandmother was Baptised in 1868. Her >> NC chapel was at Fenton but I dont know if it was the same one. Anyway here >> goes. >> >> Born 27/8/1823 Baptised 4/10/1823 >> HARROT HULSE (Assume Harriet) >> Father Samuel Hulse >> Mother Hannah Slater >> >> Born 28/1/1825 Baptised 6/2/1825 >> DAVID HULSE >> Father Samuel Hulse >> Mother Hanh. Slaten ?? >> >> Born 30/4/1826 Baptised 7/5/1826 >> EMMA HULSE >> Father Samuel Hulse >> Mother Hannah Slater >> >> Born 16/6/1828 Baptised 6/7/1828 >> JACOB HULSE >> Father Samuel Hulse >> Mother Hannah Slater >> >> Born 18/7/1830 Baptised 5/9/1830 >> ANN HULSE >> Father Samuel Hulse >> Mother Ann Slater >> >> Born 18/2/1833 Baptised 3/3/1833 >> AMOS HULSE >> Father Samuel Hulse >> Mother Hannah Slater >> >> Obviously Samuel and Hannah were both fruitful and devout! >> >> By the way I notice your posting about Stoke City F.C. >> My uncle Jack Sherlock played for the arch enemies Port Vale F.C. for about >> 5 seasons in the late 1920s early 1930s. >> >> Hope the above info helps you on the way to your family tree. >> Very best regards, Terry Brooks >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Patricia Wainwright" <pwainwri@macace.net> >> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 1:16 PM >> Subject: Re: [Pots] Reposting interests >> >> >>> Thanks Terry, >>> Yes, that certainly sounds like the same Jacob. I haven't done any >>> searching on that line yet (I'm still pursuing elusive Wainwrights) so if >>> you've got there first I'd love to know what you've found. >>> Cheers >>> Pat >>> >>>> Hello Again Pat, >>>> I dont know how far you have progressed or what resources you are >> using >>>> but whilst looking for a connection I think I may have found your JACOB >>>> HULSE on the IGI born in Longton 18th July 1830. If you dont already >> have >>>> this and would like details plus siblings please let me know. >>>> Regards, Terry Brooks. > > ______________________________

69 Brook Street Hanley - That is now CENTURY Street The main site you need is http://www.workhouses.org.uk/ The buildings are still there and photos can be seen on the above site . Once on that site - On the LEFT Click WORKHOUSE LISTS County-by-county Union Workhouses England Wales Ireland Scotland Recommended Selection of Unions and Workhouses Here's a selection of unions that give a flavour of the wide variety of Union workhouse buildings. Abingdon, Berkshire Aylsham, Norfolk Bath, Somerset Beaminster, Dorset Bolton, Lancashire Bristol, Gloucestershire Cardigan, Cardiganshire Leeds, Yorkshire Limerick, Co. Limerick Orkney, Scotland Oxford, Oxfordshire Southampton, Hampshire Stoke-upon-Trent, Staffordshire St Marylebone, London Windsor, Berkshire CHOOSE STOKE-UPON-TRENT Now feast your eyes on one of the best kept workhouses around Steve I have just received a death cert for my great grandmother in 1914, she lived at 69 Brook st Hanley but died of consumption in the workhouse hospital, the death is registered at stoke upon trent. My query is there any info on what a workhouse hospital was and is it still there? any info would be great, thanks kindly sue ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003

Sue, The workhouse hospital referred to is probably what became the City General Hospital (not sure of the current name as there is now just the combined hospital). I believe that the old workhouse building was in use by the hospital until fairly recent times. The hospital is in Hartshill which is right next to Penkhull. Beverley Walker. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue" <styler1@hotkey.net.au> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 10:29 PM Subject: [Pots] Workhouse hospital > I have just received a death cert for my great grandmother in 1914, she lived at 69 Brook st Hanley but died of consumption in the workhouse hospital, the death is registered at stoke upon trent. My query is there any info on what a workhouse hospital was and is it still there? any info would be great, > thanks kindly > sue > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > >

Hello I can give you a little more detail on these: Harriot 27/08/1823 04/10/1823 3rd child of Samuel HULSE, of Mear Heath HULSE by Hannah, d/o Robert SLATER, Miller of Lane End David 28/01/1825 06/02/1825 4th child of Samuel HULSE, of Mear Heath HULSE by Hannah, d/o Robert SLATER, Miller of Lane End Emma 30/04/1826 07/05/1826 5th child of Samuel HULSE, of Mear Heath HULSE by Hannah, d/o Robert SLATER, Miller of Lane End Jacob 16/06/1828 06/07/1828 6th child of Samuel HULSE, of Mear Heath HULSE by Hannah, d/o Robert SLATER, Miller of Lane End Ann 18/07/1830 05/09/1830 7th child of Samuel HULSE, of Mear Heath HULSE by Hannah, d/o Robert SLATER, Miller of Lane End Amos 18/02/1833 03/03/1833 8th child of Samuel HULSE, of Mear Heath HULSE by Hannah, d/o Robert SLATER, Miller of Lane End Best regards Eileen ----- Original Message ----- From: "terrybrooks" <terrybrooks@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Pots] Reposting interests > Hello Pat, > If you want to look, you will find all of these on the IGI on the LDS > site. Jacob and all the siblings appear to have been baptised at the > Methodist New Connection Chapel in Longton. I have not yet established if > this was the same NC chapel where my grandmother was Baptised in 1868. Her > NC chapel was at Fenton but I dont know if it was the same one. Anyway here > goes. > > Born 27/8/1823 Baptised 4/10/1823 > HARROT HULSE (Assume Harriet) > Father Samuel Hulse > Mother Hannah Slater > > Born 28/1/1825 Baptised 6/2/1825 > DAVID HULSE > Father Samuel Hulse > Mother Hanh. Slaten ?? > > Born 30/4/1826 Baptised 7/5/1826 > EMMA HULSE > Father Samuel Hulse > Mother Hannah Slater > > Born 16/6/1828 Baptised 6/7/1828 > JACOB HULSE > Father Samuel Hulse > Mother Hannah Slater > > Born 18/7/1830 Baptised 5/9/1830 > ANN HULSE > Father Samuel Hulse > Mother Ann Slater > > Born 18/2/1833 Baptised 3/3/1833 > AMOS HULSE > Father Samuel Hulse > Mother Hannah Slater > > Obviously Samuel and Hannah were both fruitful and devout! > > By the way I notice your posting about Stoke City F.C. > My uncle Jack Sherlock played for the arch enemies Port Vale F.C. for about > 5 seasons in the late 1920s early 1930s. > > Hope the above info helps you on the way to your family tree. > Very best regards, Terry Brooks > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia Wainwright" <pwainwri@macace.net> > To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 1:16 PM > Subject: Re: [Pots] Reposting interests > > > > Thanks Terry, > > Yes, that certainly sounds like the same Jacob. I haven't done any > > searching on that line yet (I'm still pursuing elusive Wainwrights) so if > > you've got there first I'd love to know what you've found. > > Cheers > > Pat > > > > > Hello Again Pat, > > > I dont know how far you have progressed or what resources you are > using > > > but whilst looking for a connection I think I may have found your JACOB > > > HULSE on the IGI born in Longton 18th July 1830. If you dont already > have > > > this and would like details plus siblings please let me know. > > > Regards, Terry Brooks.

Hello Pat, If you want to look, you will find all of these on the IGI on the LDS site. Jacob and all the siblings appear to have been baptised at the Methodist New Connection Chapel in Longton. I have not yet established if this was the same NC chapel where my grandmother was Baptised in 1868. Her NC chapel was at Fenton but I dont know if it was the same one. Anyway here goes. Born 27/8/1823 Baptised 4/10/1823 HARROT HULSE (Assume Harriet) Father Samuel Hulse Mother Hannah Slater Born 28/1/1825 Baptised 6/2/1825 DAVID HULSE Father Samuel Hulse Mother Hanh. Slaten ?? Born 30/4/1826 Baptised 7/5/1826 EMMA HULSE Father Samuel Hulse Mother Hannah Slater Born 16/6/1828 Baptised 6/7/1828 JACOB HULSE Father Samuel Hulse Mother Hannah Slater Born 18/7/1830 Baptised 5/9/1830 ANN HULSE Father Samuel Hulse Mother Ann Slater Born 18/2/1833 Baptised 3/3/1833 AMOS HULSE Father Samuel Hulse Mother Hannah Slater Obviously Samuel and Hannah were both fruitful and devout! By the way I notice your posting about Stoke City F.C. My uncle Jack Sherlock played for the arch enemies Port Vale F.C. for about 5 seasons in the late 1920s early 1930s. Hope the above info helps you on the way to your family tree. Very best regards, Terry Brooks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Wainwright" <pwainwri@macace.net> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [Pots] Reposting interests > Thanks Terry, > Yes, that certainly sounds like the same Jacob. I haven't done any > searching on that line yet (I'm still pursuing elusive Wainwrights) so if > you've got there first I'd love to know what you've found. > Cheers > Pat > > > Hello Again Pat, > > I dont know how far you have progressed or what resources you are using > > but whilst looking for a connection I think I may have found your JACOB > > HULSE on the IGI born in Longton 18th July 1830. If you dont already have > > this and would like details plus siblings please let me know. > > Regards, Terry Brooks. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Patricia Wainwright" <pwainwri@macace.net> > > To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 11:17 AM > > Subject: Re: [Pots] Reposting interests > > > > > >> Hello Terry, > >> > >> I do not have a William but it's not impossible that there is a > > connection. > >> All I have so far on HULSE is 1881 census transcript from LDS: > >> > >> 17 Park St. S-O-T > >> Jacob HULSE, b. Longton, 53, Potters presser, Head > >> Ann HULSE, b. Longton, 42, wife > >> Dinah HULSE, b. Hanley, 21, potter, daur > >> Emma HULSE, b. Stoke, 18, potter, daur > >> Hannah HULSE, b. Stoke, 16, potter, daur > >> Jacob HULSE, b. Stoke, 10, potter, son > >> Thomas HULSE, b. Stoke, 8, scholar, son > >> Joseph HULSE, b. Stoke, 6, scholar, son > >> Saml. HULSE, b. Stoke, 3, scholar, son > >> Mary HULSE, b. Stoke, 2, daur > >> > >> Unless they were extremely precocious (scholar at 3?!) it looks as though > >> the enumerator or the transcriber has got lines crossed or missed one out. > >> Next time I have the opportunity I'll look at the original. > >> Cheers > >> Pat > >> > >>> Hello Patricia, > >>> Although I could not find the name mentioned in your list, I think I > > have > >>> a William Hulse who married the sister of my g-grandfather in the > > Potteries > >>> in 1889. The lady in question was Mary Sherlock who was 28 y.o. at her > >>> marriage. The Sherlock clan lived in the Tinkersclough area of Hanley in > > the > >>> period 1865-1900. If you have any interest please let me know. > >>> Best regards, Terry Brooks > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Patricia Wainwright" <pwainwri@macace.net> > >>> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:23 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [Pots] Reposting interests > >>> > >>> > >>>> My Great grandmother was Hannah Eliza HULSE b. 1865, da of Jacob and > > Ann > >>>> HULSE. Address in 1881 was 17 Park St Stoke-on-Trent. I haven't yet > >>>> explored that branch of the family so if it fits with any of your > > research > >>> I > >>>> would be very interested to know more. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks > >>>> Pat Wainwright > >>>> > >>>>> Names I am researching: > >>>>> > >>>>> BIRKS, BROSTER, GREEN, HULSE, MACHIN, PRINCE, RAY, REDFERN, STIRRUP, > >>> SWIFT, > >>>>> TIDESWELL, WEBB. > >>>>> > >>>>> Also interested in these Potteries: > >>>>> > >>>>> ADAMS AND PRINCE > >>>>> ALLERTON BROUGH AND GREEN > >>>>> ANCHOR WORKS > >>>>> HOLLAND AND GREEN > >>>>> PEEL POTTERY > >>>>> RAY AND TIDESWELL > >>>>> WEBB AND CO > >>>>> WEBB AND WALTERS > >>>>> > >>>>> Jennie Shelley, New Zealand > >>>>> > >>>>> _________________________________________________________________ > >>>>> Find your perfect match @ http://personals.xtramsn.co.nz with > > XtraMSN > >>>>> Personals! > >>>>> > >>>>> ______________________________ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > >>>> The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > >>>> > >>> > >>> ______________________________ > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > >> The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > >> > > > > ______________________________ > > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire >

Thanks for the feedback on this. Interestingly, they prompted some memories from my father: After the one first team match for which he was paid 2/6d g-granddad Tom was told by his employer that he couldn't have two paid jobs and so had to choose between being a professional footballer and being a flour merchant. He chose the security of flour and the rest is obscurity! No known connection with Norman Wainwright but gg-grandfather had at least six sons and I've only accounted for two of them post 1901 so may yet unearth something. There certainly seems to be a sporting gene in the line (although it didn't reach me!) Cheers Pat

Thanks Terry, Yes, that certainly sounds like the same Jacob. I haven't done any searching on that line yet (I'm still pursuing elusive Wainwrights) so if you've got there first I'd love to know what you've found. Cheers Pat > Hello Again Pat, > I dont know how far you have progressed or what resources you are using > but whilst looking for a connection I think I may have found your JACOB > HULSE on the IGI born in Longton 18th July 1830. If you dont already have > this and would like details plus siblings please let me know. > Regards, Terry Brooks. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia Wainwright" <pwainwri@macace.net> > To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 11:17 AM > Subject: Re: [Pots] Reposting interests > > >> Hello Terry, >> >> I do not have a William but it's not impossible that there is a > connection. >> All I have so far on HULSE is 1881 census transcript from LDS: >> >> 17 Park St. S-O-T >> Jacob HULSE, b. Longton, 53, Potters presser, Head >> Ann HULSE, b. Longton, 42, wife >> Dinah HULSE, b. Hanley, 21, potter, daur >> Emma HULSE, b. Stoke, 18, potter, daur >> Hannah HULSE, b. Stoke, 16, potter, daur >> Jacob HULSE, b. Stoke, 10, potter, son >> Thomas HULSE, b. Stoke, 8, scholar, son >> Joseph HULSE, b. Stoke, 6, scholar, son >> Saml. HULSE, b. Stoke, 3, scholar, son >> Mary HULSE, b. Stoke, 2, daur >> >> Unless they were extremely precocious (scholar at 3?!) it looks as though >> the enumerator or the transcriber has got lines crossed or missed one out. >> Next time I have the opportunity I'll look at the original. >> Cheers >> Pat >> >>> Hello Patricia, >>> Although I could not find the name mentioned in your list, I think I > have >>> a William Hulse who married the sister of my g-grandfather in the > Potteries >>> in 1889. The lady in question was Mary Sherlock who was 28 y.o. at her >>> marriage. The Sherlock clan lived in the Tinkersclough area of Hanley in > the >>> period 1865-1900. If you have any interest please let me know. >>> Best regards, Terry Brooks >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Patricia Wainwright" <pwainwri@macace.net> >>> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:23 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Pots] Reposting interests >>> >>> >>>> My Great grandmother was Hannah Eliza HULSE b. 1865, da of Jacob and > Ann >>>> HULSE. Address in 1881 was 17 Park St Stoke-on-Trent. I haven't yet >>>> explored that branch of the family so if it fits with any of your > research >>> I >>>> would be very interested to know more. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Pat Wainwright >>>> >>>>> Names I am researching: >>>>> >>>>> BIRKS, BROSTER, GREEN, HULSE, MACHIN, PRINCE, RAY, REDFERN, STIRRUP, >>> SWIFT, >>>>> TIDESWELL, WEBB. >>>>> >>>>> Also interested in these Potteries: >>>>> >>>>> ADAMS AND PRINCE >>>>> ALLERTON BROUGH AND GREEN >>>>> ANCHOR WORKS >>>>> HOLLAND AND GREEN >>>>> PEEL POTTERY >>>>> RAY AND TIDESWELL >>>>> WEBB AND CO >>>>> WEBB AND WALTERS >>>>> >>>>> Jennie Shelley, New Zealand >>>>> >>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>> Find your perfect match @ http://personals.xtramsn.co.nz with > XtraMSN >>>>> Personals! >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== >>>> The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire >>>> >>> >>> ______________________________ >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== >> The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire >> > > ______________________________

I don't know about other denominations but the Methodist Chapels used to be grouped in a Circuit which was at least two chapels. Sometimes the records appear to have comprised the circuit rather than individual Chapels, so this may explain why Longton and Fenton were together, being adjacent. Perhaps there is a Minister who can give an expert opinion? Arnold Bennett talked about "The Five Towns" but there are and were really Six; Longton, Fenton, Stoke, Hanley, Burslem, and Tunstall. I find it confusing having signposts to the City Centre pointing to Hanley! I suppose thats progress, it always was the best for shopping, and is even better now with the redevelopment on the old Shelton bar site

Sue Suggest you check out this site - gives a great deal on of Information on Workhouses and Infirmaries. http://www.institutions.org.uk/ Happy Hunting Helen New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: Sue [mailto:styler1@hotkey.net.au] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:29 AM To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Pots] Workhouse hospital I have just received a death cert for my great grandmother in 1914, she lived at 69 Brook st Hanley but died of consumption in the workhouse hospital, the death is registered at stoke upon trent. My query is there any info on what a workhouse hospital was and is it still there? any info would be great, thanks kindly sue ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire _____ << ella for Spam Control >> has removed 828 Spam messages and set aside 44 Newsletters for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! www.ellaforspam.com

Thanks Helen I think I found it "spittals" at Spittal in Penkhull. Would anyone know if this building is still there. thanks again Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Verrall" <hverrall@ihug.co.nz> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:44 AM Subject: RE: [Pots] Workhouse hospital > Sue > > > > Suggest you check out this site - gives a great deal on of Information > on Workhouses and Infirmaries. > > > > http://www.institutions.org.uk/ > > > > Happy Hunting > > > > Helen > > New Zealand > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sue [mailto:styler1@hotkey.net.au] > > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:29 AM > > To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [Pots] Workhouse hospital > > > > I have just received a death cert for my great grandmother in 1914, she > lived at 69 Brook st Hanley but died of consumption in the workhouse > hospital, the death is registered at stoke upon trent. My query is there > any info on what a workhouse hospital was and is it still there? any > info would be great, > > thanks kindly > > sue > > > > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > > > > > > > _____ > > << ella for Spam Control >> has removed 828 Spam messages and set aside > 44 Newsletters for me > You can use it too - and it's FREE! www.ellaforspam.com > > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > >

I have just received a death cert for my great grandmother in 1914, she lived at 69 Brook st Hanley but died of consumption in the workhouse hospital, the death is registered at stoke upon trent. My query is there any info on what a workhouse hospital was and is it still there? any info would be great, thanks kindly sue