Hi Jeffery The county of Salop is actually Shropshire. This is a county on the border of Wales and England. Hopes this helps. Jackie J -----Original Message----- From: Jeffery K. Davidson [mailto:jdavidson@rathandcompany.com] Sent: 15 April 2005 18:43 To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Pots] County of Salop Hello, I ordered a birth certificate that is potentially that of my gg grandfather. He, Henry Matthews was, according to census, in Whitmore in about 1838. I found, on 1837online.com reference to an 1838 birth registered Madeley (there is a Madeley not to far from Whitmore). Hoping it was the right won, I took a chance and ordered it (hoping the residence information might confirm something). Unfortunately, all the residence information says is "Park Lane". Anyway, I received the certicate to find it is in the "County of Salop". Now, I have never heard of such a county or Salopshire before. I cannot find a town called Salop. Can anyone tell me what Salop is? Is this the Madeley in Staffordshire, the one in Shropshire or another Madeley. Thoughts. Thank you. Jeffery Davidson Calgary, Canada ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire

Hi Salop = Shropshire. Hope this helps. Regards Earl.

Hello, I ordered a birth certificate that is potentially that of my gg grandfather. He, Henry Matthews was, according to census, in Whitmore in about 1838. I found, on 1837online.com reference to an 1838 birth registered Madeley (there is a Madeley not to far from Whitmore). Hoping it was the right won, I took a chance and ordered it (hoping the residence information might confirm something). Unfortunately, all the residence information says is "Park Lane". Anyway, I received the certicate to find it is in the "County of Salop". Now, I have never heard of such a county or Salopshire before. I cannot find a town called Salop. Can anyone tell me what Salop is? Is this the Madeley in Staffordshire, the one in Shropshire or another Madeley. Thoughts. Thank you. Jeffery Davidson Calgary, Canada

Hi Listers The Staffs BMD has been updated with the following records .... Added 16,990 Births:- Newcastle-under-Lyme RD - 1858 to 1879 (Code NUL) Stoke-on-Trent RD - 1873 & 1874 (Code TUN) Grand total for Births is now: 343,600 regards Bill ======================================================================== The Staffordshire BMD can be found at http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk and the West Midlands BMD at http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk (If you live in the North/Mid Staffs area, South Cheshire area or the West Midlands and would like to help Photostating,Transcribing or Co-ordinating then please email me asap please!!) ========================================================================

Hi Cliff Thanks for your reply. That would be great if you could forward me the list of chapelrys for Leek. Regards Garth H PS I have family from Cheddleton. It would be funny if we were connected in some way. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff & Ann" <anncliff.b@uqconnect.net> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [Pots] Joseph Holtham > Garth, > I had a similar problem. > I found my ancestor in Endon and his parents in Cheddleton. > Endon is a chapelry of Leek. > It appears that our ancestors might give the general area of their birth as > Leek but were baptised in a chapelry of Leek. > > I used the publication "Staffordshire and Stoke on Trent Archive Service, > Guide to Sources, No.1- Parish Registers and Bishops' Transcripts" to locate > the chapelrys.. > > If you want a list of chapelrys of Leek please let me know. > > Hope this helps. > > Cheers > Cliff > (from Oz) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Garth Houltham" <garph@ihug.co.nz> > To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 5:25 AM > Subject: [Pots] Joseph Holtham > > > >I am searching for the birth of Joseph Holtham c 1766 in Leek. His > >Staffordshire Militia records say he was born there but I can't find any > >reference in St Edwards Parish registers. I would love to know who his > >parents were. Can anyone make any suggestions as to where to look next? He > >married his first wife Catherine Gibson in 1803 but I don't connect with > >any children until 1812. Could he have been away with the Militia and his > >wife was left at home. In total he had 14 children from his two marriages. > >The second wife was Margaret Hawley. > > > > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > > > > > > > > -- > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 4/1/2005 > > > > > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 4/1/2005 > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire >

Garth, I had a similar problem. I found my ancestor in Endon and his parents in Cheddleton. Endon is a chapelry of Leek. It appears that our ancestors might give the general area of their birth as Leek but were baptised in a chapelry of Leek. I used the publication "Staffordshire and Stoke on Trent Archive Service, Guide to Sources, No.1- Parish Registers and Bishops' Transcripts" to locate the chapelrys.. If you want a list of chapelrys of Leek please let me know. Hope this helps. Cheers Cliff (from Oz) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garth Houltham" <garph@ihug.co.nz> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 5:25 AM Subject: [Pots] Joseph Holtham >I am searching for the birth of Joseph Holtham c 1766 in Leek. His >Staffordshire Militia records say he was born there but I can't find any >reference in St Edwards Parish registers. I would love to know who his >parents were. Can anyone make any suggestions as to where to look next? He >married his first wife Catherine Gibson in 1803 but I don't connect with >any children until 1812. Could he have been away with the Militia and his >wife was left at home. In total he had 14 children from his two marriages. >The second wife was Margaret Hawley. > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 4/1/2005 > > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 4/1/2005

The Hughes Collection website has gone live: http://www.thehughescollection.co.uk/index.html All 2,000 odd photos are online. There is a search engine that takes a broad description of the content, try typing "bicycle" or "football". Double click on an image and not only do you get a larger image, but you can either supply or request information. A few hundred of the iamges have a clients name on them. Try typing "GILES", or try your own Bromsgrovian name. Good Hunting Mike Yegwart Bromsgrove Branch Chairman BMSGH

Garth A lot of men joined up in the army in those days to get away from something - having fathered a child whose mother they did not wish to marry, some sort of crime, etc. and gave a false place of birth, age, name, etc. My ggg grandfather did all these three things on his army record. Happily for me, he told the truth about his age and birthplace to the 1851 Census enumerator and I was able to track him down eventually. Judith > Message date : Apr 09 2005, 08:28 PM > From : "Garth Houltham" > To : ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com > Copy to : > Subject : [Pots] Joseph Holtham > I am searching for the birth of Joseph Holtham c 1766 in Leek. His Staffordshire Militia records say he was born there but I can't find any reference in St Edwards Parish registers. I would love to know who his parents were. Can anyone make any suggestions as to where to look next? He married his first wife Catherine Gibson in 1803 but I don't connect with any children until 1812. Could he have been away with the Militia and his wife was left at home. In total he had 14 children from his two marriages. The second wife was Margaret Hawley. > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > > > -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm

I am searching for the birth of Joseph Holtham c 1766 in Leek. His Staffordshire Militia records say he was born there but I can't find any reference in St Edwards Parish registers. I would love to know who his parents were. Can anyone make any suggestions as to where to look next? He married his first wife Catherine Gibson in 1803 but I don't connect with any children until 1812. Could he have been away with the Militia and his wife was left at home. In total he had 14 children from his two marriages. The second wife was Margaret Hawley.

Sorry about the email, it should have read George Birks, widow, potter, married 26 July 1828, Stoke Upon Trent, to Ann Turner, spinster is anyone looking for this family? Jackie!

Jackie - you must know more ! Such as what year(s) are we talking about ? 1700s, 1800s or 1900s ? What, if any, census' do you have him / her in ? Where did his marriage take place and when ? When the marriage took place was Ann Turner a spinster or a widow ? So you can see you do have a lot more info. Birks and Turner are extremely common names -especially in the Fenton/Longton area . I have an interest in BIRKS, and there is a Geo who married an Ann 1871 RG10 - 2877 110 Stafford Street (Shakespear Inn) George Birks Head Marrie 56 Inn keeper Derby Ann (wife) 53 Ilkeston William 19 Ilkeston Charles 15 Ilkeston Albert 12 Longton Sarah A 11 Longton Sarah Jane Carnall GD 2 Longton Steve -----Original Message----- From: JcqlnKlly@aol.com [mailto:JcqlnKlly@aol.com] Sent: 08 April 2005 14:02 To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Pots] Birks Hi! I am new to this list and am looking for a George Birks who married Ann Turner. At the time of his marriage he was a potter. This is all I know. Are there any other people looking for this family? Jackie! ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 01/04/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 07/04/2005

Hi! I am new to this list and am looking for a George Birks who married Ann Turner. At the time of his marriage he was a potter. This is all I know. Are there any other people looking for this family? Jackie!

Hi Listers Sorry got the update date wrong in the header so reposting ........... The Staffs BMD has been updated with the following records .... 4,223 marriages added for the East Staffordshire Registration District (Burton) Anslow, Holy Trinity:- 1862 to 1989 Barton-under-Needwood, St James:- 1837 to 1959 Branston, St Saviour:- 1871 to 1963 Dunstall, St Mary:- 1854 to 1984 Hanbury, St Werburgh:- 1837 to 1967 Hoar Cross, Holy Angels:- 1876 to 1985 Needwood, Christ Church:- 1895 to 1964 Rangemore, All Saints:- 1886 to 1985 Abbots Bromley, St Nicholas:- 1837 to 1950 Grand total for marriages is now 422,525 regards Bill ======================================================================== The Staffordshire BMD can be found at http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk and the West Midlands BMD at http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk (If you live in the North/Mid Staffs area, South Cheshire area or the West Midlands and would like to help Photostating,Transcribing or Co-ordinating then please email me asap please!!) ========================================================================

Hi Listers The Staffs BMD has been updated with the following records .... 4,223 marriages added for the East Staffordshire Registration District (Burton) Anslow, Holy Trinity:- 1862 to 1989 Barton-under-Needwood, St James:- 1837 to 1959 Branston, St Saviour:- 1871 to 1963 Dunstall, St Mary:- 1854 to 1984 Hanbury, St Werburgh:- 1837 to 1967 Hoar Cross, Holy Angels:- 1876 to 1985 Needwood, Christ Church:- 1895 to 1964 Rangemore, All Saints:- 1886 to 1985 Abbots Bromley, St Nicholas:- 1837 to 1950 Grand total for marriages is now 422,525 regards Bill ======================================================================== The Staffordshire BMD can be found at http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk and the West Midlands BMD at http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk (If you live in the North/Mid Staffs area, South Cheshire area or the West Midlands and would like to help Photostating,Transcribing or Co-ordinating then please email me asap please!!) ========================================================================

Hi Listers The West Midlands BMD has now been updated with the following data:- Added 2,415 Deaths Sandwell Registration District for the years 1837 & 1838 Wednesbury Sub-District Harborne Sub-District Tipton Sub-District West Bromwich North East Sub-District West Bromwich South West Sub-District Oldbury Sub-District Rowley Regis Sub-District ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Added 33,164 Births Sandwell Registration District for the years 1895 to 1898 inclusive Wednesbury Sub-District Harborne Sub-District Tipton Sub-District West Bromwich North East Sub-District West Bromwich South West Sub-District Oldbury Sub-District Rowley Regis Sub-District ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Total Births on-line now 407,752 Total Deaths on-line now 2,415 regards Bill ======================================================================== The Staffordshire BMD can be found at http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk and the West Midlands BMD at http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk (If you live in the North/Mid Staffs area, South Cheshire area or the West Midlands and would like to help Photostating,Transcribing or Co-ordinating then please email me asap please!!) ========================================================================

I am researching the following names - BANKS : Stretton (Cheshire), Manchester (Lancs) BRADBURY : Lymm (Cheshire) BROWNBILL : St Helens (Lancs) CALLAGHAN : St Helens (Lancs), Ireland DANIELS : Bowdon (Cheshire) GABRIEL : St Helens (Lancs), Liverpool (Lancs), Dublin (Ireland) GARDNER : Dublin (Ireland) GRATWICH : Barlaston (Staffs) HIGHAM : Lymm (Cheshire), Leigh (Lancs) JOHNSON : Over Peover (Cheshire) JOHNSON : Barlaston (Staffs) JOHNS(T)ON : Wallasey (Cheshire), Birkenhead (Cheshire), Hull (East Riding), North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland), Ryton (Co. Durham) JONES : Whitchurch (Shrops) LEIGH : Lymm (Cheshire) MILLER : Lymm (Cheshire), Grappenhall (Cheshire) MOSTON/MOSSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Over Peover (Cheshire), Marthall (Cheshire), Snelson (Cheshire) MYCOCK : Barlaston (Staffs) NORBURY : Liverpool (Lancs) PERCIVAL : Lymm (Cheshire), Antrobus (Cheshire) RICHARDSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Prescot (Lancs) TABERN : St Helens (Lancs) THOMPSON : North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland) WILLIAMSON : Cheshire WINSTANLEY : Lymm (Cheshire) WOOTTON : Barlaston (Staffs), Moddershall (Staffs), Stone (Staffs) I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests. Thanks Tim

Hi Listers The Staffs BMD has been updated with the following records .... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Added 14287 marriages:- Stafford Registration District - Marriages Stafford, St Austins RC Church - (Wolverhampton Road):- 1971-1982 Stafford, St.Patricks RC Church - (Sandon Road):- 1955-1981 Great Haywood (Colwich), St.John the Baptist RC Church:- 1928-1994 Gnosall, Methodist Church - (Newport Road):- 1914-1983 Stafford, Methodist Chapel - (Rowley Street):- 1938-1987 Stafford (Rising Brook), Methodist Church:- 1958-1985 Stafford, Baptist Chapel - (The Green):- 1960-1965 Stafford, St.Chads Garrison Church - (RAF Station):- 1964-1985 Walton on the Hill, Berkswich Methodist Church - (The Rise):-1964-1987 Stafford, Trinity Church:- 1967-1968 Weeping Cross (Stafford), St.Annes - (Lynton Avenue):- 1970-1986 Stone, St.Johns Church (Meth & Un Ref) - (Granville Terrace):- 1914-1983 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- East Staffordshire (Burton-on-Trent) - Marriages Burton Register Office (Civil Marriages):- 1881-1894 & 1917-1952 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stoke-on-Trent Registration District - Marriages Hanford, St Matthias:- 1921-1975 Hartshill, Holy Trinity:- 1923-1983 Stoke & Wolstanton Register Office (Civil Marriages):- 1921-1925 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newcastle-under-Lyme Registration District - Marriages Basford Methodist Church:- 1974-1996 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Added 11996 births:- Stoke-on-Trent Registration District - Births Tunstall Sub-District:- 1950-1860 & 1862-1864 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Added 40943 deaths:- Staffordshire Moorlands (Leek) Registration District - Deaths Cheadle Sub-District:- 1837-1935 Leek Sub-District:- 1856-1904 Longnor Sub-District:- 1837-1935 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Database totals Births = 326613 Marriages = 418302 Deaths = 100297 regards Bill ======================================================================== The Staffordshire BMD can be found at http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk and the West Midlands BMD at http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk (If you live in the North/Mid Staffs area, South Cheshire area or the West Midlands and would like to help Photostating,Transcribing or Co-ordinating then please email me asap please!!) ========================================================================

This is my first post to the list. I am hoping to make a connection to anyone researching the Mellor and Mollart families of the Wolstanton area of Staffordshire. The families lived in Packmoor, Mow Cop, Brieryhurst, Biddulph areas. We have been told that the Mellor family owned farm lands in Wolstanton, which would become the town of Packmoor. If anyone is connected or knows anything about the Mellor/Mollart families I would be very appreciative of any help with this family. Ruth Pittsburgh, PA, USA

Hello To all, Can anyone please help me? I am trying to locate the parents of Ralph Goodfellow born about 1822 in or around Wolstanton. In 1842 he married Athaliah Holland and they had at least one son Joseph. I have traced amny Goodfellows in the area but cannot trace this Ralph. All information I have of him come from V.R. listing for the marriage of Joseph and IGI entry for Josephs birth. Many thanks Martin Interests Fell....yardley and Aston Goodfellow....Wolstanton Highfield......Wolstanton Holland ........Wolstanton Pennington.....Wolstanton Ault .......Derbyshire Shaw.......Sandbach, cheshire

Hi Marilyn, In the 1901 census there is a John MINSHULL aged 42 in Stafford Prison. 1901 census His Majesty's Prison, Stafford, Staffordshire RG13/2572 Fol 164 p14 John MINSHULL, Prisoner, Married, 42, Stoker at Blast furnaces, Chester Chester Cheers, Louise