Hello One & All , Could some kind soul please tell me if the above Church is Roman Catholic or Protestant . Thanking you Lucy

Hi Judith I am running the list at the moment and I don't mind at all , this is part of our history and I was delighted to find out about this, my uncle was killed at Gallipoli Cheers Cassy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard & Judith Thorpe" <rfthorpe@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 6:58 PM Subject: [Pots] ANZAC Day - Remembrance >I hope that the list won't mind me sending this message, but there have >been so many mentions of ANZAC day that I thought some of you might like to >know that there is a memorial to Gallipoli at the National Memorial >Arboretum near Alrewas in Staffordshire. The Arboretum has lots of >memorials to service and veterans organisations, and also to civilian >organisations, and there are over 60,000 trees planted in its 150 acres. > > The trees are very young but already the site is very beautiful and a home > to lots of wildlife. Obviously as time goes on it will change > dramatically as the trees grow. > > It is open every day from 10am till 5pm and entry is free though they do > like people to give a donation towards the upkeep of the site. > > With apologies if this isn't appropriate but I thought it might be of > interest to some. > > Judith Thorpe > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 21/04/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 21/04/2005

I hope that the list won't mind me sending this message, but there have been so many mentions of ANZAC day that I thought some of you might like to know that there is a memorial to Gallipoli at the National Memorial Arboretum near Alrewas in Staffordshire. The Arboretum has lots of memorials to service and veterans organisations, and also to civilian organisations, and there are over 60,000 trees planted in its 150 acres. The trees are very young but already the site is very beautiful and a home to lots of wildlife. Obviously as time goes on it will change dramatically as the trees grow. It is open every day from 10am till 5pm and entry is free though they do like people to give a donation towards the upkeep of the site. With apologies if this isn't appropriate but I thought it might be of interest to some. Judith Thorpe

Hi Mike The Compasses was 22 Market Lane. Yes, this is now Transport Lane. It is not in Kelly's Directory 1880 or 1900 under Public Houses. Eileen ----- Original Message ----- From: "MICHAEL WHEELER" <mike_wheeler@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:52 PM Subject: [Pots] The Compasses Inn Market Lane Longton > Hi all > > I am looking for any information on The Compasses Inn, Market Lane, > Longton. > > I believe that Market Lane is now Transport Lane. > > I have a death certificate from 1896 with the informant as Elizabeth > Shenton and her address as the the Compasses Inn. > > I am trying to find who lived in the Compasses Inn in 1891 and in 1901, > but cannot find it on the census. Also are there any other records that > would give clues to who was running/living in the Compasses Inn. > > Mike > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire >

British Census 1881 Sunday ( night ) April 3rd RG11 Piece 2721 Folio 30 Page 45 Census Place : Stoke Upon Trent, Stafford, England Dwelling : 21 Bright Street Herbert Forrester : Head : Married : Age 35 : Born Wicherwood, Staffordshire : Carter Fanny Forrester : Wife : Married : Age 28 : Born Chesterton, Staffordshire. Herbert Forrester : Son : Age 2 : Born Hanley, Staffordshire. Fanny Forrester : Daughter : Age 1 month : Born Hanley, Staffordshire. Sarah SMYTHEMAN : Visitor : Age 6 : Born Hanley, Staffordshire. Harry Smytheman : Visitor : Age 5 : Born Hanley, Staffordshire. Hi, is this Herbert Forrester of interest to you ? I believe " Wicherwood " is actually the Washerwall area of Werrington. Regards de Dave

Hi all I am looking for any information on The Compasses Inn, Market Lane, Longton. I believe that Market Lane is now Transport Lane. I have a death certificate from 1896 with the informant as Elizabeth Shenton and her address as the the Compasses Inn. I am trying to find who lived in the Compasses Inn in 1891 and in 1901, but cannot find it on the census. Also are there any other records that would give clues to who was running/living in the Compasses Inn. Mike

At 15:46 20/04/05, DrGeneal wrote: >Greetings It is some while since I stated my Interests in the Potteries >and the surrounding area so here they are, ... >LOWE I have LOWE in Biddulph - Ralph and Sarah were hosts at the Talbot Inn in 1818 and again in 1851. He was baptised in Betley, his parents were John and Martha "of Barthomley". Any connections? BW Andy.

Greetings It is some while since I stated my Interests in the Potteries and the surrounding area so here they are, Main interests RUSHTON, of Keele, Silverdale CORK of Betley, Silverdale, WHITTINGHAM, ANDERSON of Silverdale BILLINGTON of Basford/Etruria/Shelton. FORRESTER of Bucknall cum Bagnall. "also ran" LOWE, HOLLINS, COTTERILL, SLATER,

There are two possibles - neither of them with parents, unfortunately. Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Sarah Byefield 1791 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Head Sedgley Staffordshire Mary Clark 1856 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Granddaughter Sedgley Staffordshire ------------- Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Mary Jennet Clark 1857 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Relative Wolverhampton Staffordshire Mary Cooker 1820 Bilston, Staffordshire, England Wife Wolverhampton Staffordshire William Cooker 1816 Kiraton, Derbyshire, England Head Wolverhampton Staffordshire Thomas Longmore 1810 Kinver, Staffordshire, England Boarder Wolverhampton Staffordshire ---------------------- But then there is this family which fits your criteria Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Ann Clarke 1809 Leek, Staffordshire, England Wife Leek and Lowe Staffordshire John Clarke 1809 Leek, Staffordshire, England Head Leek and Lowe Staffordshire - carter John Clarke Jur. 1848 Leek, Staffordshire, England Son Leek and Lowe Staffordshire - carter Mary J Clarke 1857 Leek, Staffordshire, England Daughter Leek and Lowe Staffordshire - silk winder Civil Parish or Township: Leek and Lowe Ecclesiastical parish: St Edward Town: Leek County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: 96 Canal Street Source information: RG10/2882 Registration district: Leek Sub-registration district: Leek ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Folio: 91 Page: 19 Household schedule number: 104 Will send the link to the image off list Anne On 18 Apr 2005, at 19:38, Richard & Judith Thorpe wrote: > Would some sks who has access to an 1871 census please look for Mary J > Clark who would be about 14 and living probably in Leek. Perhaps her > brother John aged 23ish will be there too. I've found several John > Clarks in 1881 but I can't pin him down. This should give me his > parents. > > Thank you in anticipation. > > Judith Thorpe > > > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire >

Would some sks who has access to an 1871 census please look for Mary J Clark who would be about 14 and living probably in Leek. Perhaps her brother John aged 23ish will be there too. I've found several John Clarks in 1881 but I can't pin him down. This should give me his parents. Thank you in anticipation. Judith Thorpe

Hi Listers The Staffs BMD has been updated with the following records .... Added 5,496 Births for the Newcastle-under-Lyme Registration District (code NUL) 1855 to 1858 & 1879 to 1884 This now make the coverage for NUL Births now 1837-1884 Added 764 Marriages for Stoke-on-Trent Registration District, Abbey Hulton, Our Lady and St Benedict's Church, 1942-1980 New Totals now:- Births - 349,096 Marriages - 423,292 regards Bill ======================================================================== The Staffordshire BMD can be found at http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk and the West Midlands BMD at http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk (If you live in the North/Mid Staffs area, South Cheshire area or the West Midlands and would like to help Photostating,Transcribing or Co-ordinating then please email me asap please!!) ========================================================================

I would recommend Hanley museum. There are loads of different departments but one has an old photographs touch screen display which we found really interesting. Parking in Hanley is probably easiest at John street but all the car parks are signposted anyway. There might be some other info in the library too. Records is top floor I think but they have local history books near the records and archives. And its near John street car park Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: PHILLPOTTDebian@aol.com To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 3:55 PM Subject: [Pots] ADVICE ON A STOKE VISIT PLEASE My family history research has led me to Stoke, particularly Burslem/Hanley areas. I have a number of addresses known such as: Granville Place Regent Street Gordon Street Hollins Street Sneyd Street Work seems to have revolved around iron & steel working rather than pottery. I wondered if any who know this area could suggest a few places to visit/sites to see in the area. I would like to plan a visit this summer but will have a couple of elderly relatives in tow so we won't want to be trudging the streets of Stoke (hence this email). Is there anything in the form of local history museums or displays? Where is the best parking for these areas? I suppose we would really be trying to visit "where our ancestors lived" rather than looking to do any record-office style of research. Any ideas, suggestions or tips would be most welcome as we do not know this area at all. Thanking you in advance. Regards. Ian Phillpott My family website - http://hometown.aol.co.uk/phillpottdebian/index.htm ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire

Hi Ian Try visiting the Special Collections Dept at Keele University at Keele (outskirts of Newcastle under Lyme). They have the Ernest Warrilow Photo Collection .... a vast collection of street scenes etc in Black and white - indexed by street / town etc. You will need to make an appointment. Also you can also ask for a photocopy of the photos provided for own use etc etc. regards Bill ======================================================================== * This Mail was sent WITHOUT attachments* Bill Harrison's Genealogy Pages can be found online at http://www.harrisongenealogy.co.uk Also BMSGH Webmaster - URL = http://www.bmsgh.org The Staffordshire BMD can be found at http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk and the West Midlands BMD at http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk (If you live in the North/Mid Staffs area, South Cheshire area or the West Midlands and would like to help Photostating,Transcribing or Co-ordinating then please email me asap please!!) ======================================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: <PHILLPOTTDebian@aol.com> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 3:55 PM Subject: [Pots] ADVICE ON A STOKE VISIT PLEASE > My family history research has led me to Stoke, particularly > Burslem/Hanley > areas. I have a number of addresses known such as: > > Granville Place > Regent Street > Gordon Street > Hollins Street > Sneyd Street > > Work seems to have revolved around iron & steel working rather than > pottery. > > I wondered if any who know this area could suggest a few places to > visit/sites to see in the area. I would like to plan a visit this summer > but will have a > couple of elderly relatives in tow so we won't want to be trudging the > streets of Stoke (hence this email). > > Is there anything in the form of local history museums or displays? Where > is > the best parking for these areas? I suppose we would really be trying to > visit > "where our ancestors lived" rather than looking to do any record-office > style > of research. > > Any ideas, suggestions or tips would be most welcome as we do not know > this > area at all. > > Thanking you in advance. > > Regards. > > Ian Phillpott > My family website - http://hometown.aol.co.uk/phillpottdebian/index.htm > > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.13 - Release Date: 16/04/2005 > >

Ian - Granville Place - Gone but was half way up Waterloo Road on the left. Just past Granville crossings Regent Street - Now Zion Street and has the Zion Methodist chapel and Parkers Brewery buildings still there but they have changed functions now. Gordon Street - now Cape Street - only two buildings remain on the east side - they would have been even numbers Hollins Street - cant bring this one to mind Sneyd Street - a very long street from Cobridge to Sneyd Green Some old houses at the top and bottom though. "Is there anything in the form of local history museums or displays? " BURSLEM - Ceramica. Parking at the side or in side streets Hanley - Hanley Museum - Several car parks around - also café inside Longton - Gladstone Museum - own carpark and café .Do take a small walk 200yds to Short Street (or drive and park in the road). Short Street is in the middle of an old Victorian remnant and is in the process of being regenerated. Look at the houses and the proximity to the ovens. Yes also look at the dirt the size of short Street and the remains of Heaths passage. People lived here and these are typical houses of the rest of the Potts. Hopefully when they are regenerated we may be able to go around these houses. QUE - Any ideas, suggestions or tips would be most welcome as we do not know this area at all. ANS -Give the census references of the people you are interested in, particularly those in Regent Street, Sneyd Street and Gordon Street and I will tell you if the houses still exist. Some light reading is at :- http://www2002.stoke.gov.uk/museums/ http://www.exploringthepotteries.org.uk/ http://www.thepotteries.org/ Bye for now Steve -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.7 - Release Date: 12/04/2005

Hi - One of the best websites for the history of the Potteries area is : www.thepotteries.org This should give you plenty of information plus ideas for following up your specific interests. Regards - Joan (an ex-potter) ___________________________________________________________ Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005. Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/ Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/

Hi All This is a link to take you to several on line census thou not complete , first one in for Staffs http://www.griffs4bears.co.uk/census/scripts/search61.html UK Census on-line http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ http://www.worcestershiresurnames.co.uk/ Cassy -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.13 - Release Date: 16/04/2005

Hi Jeffery Try this link it gives you a list of local area's country wide of Birth Deaths and Marriages that are are line with the ref . for any cert http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/ Cassy -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.13 - Release Date: 16/04/2005

Hi Steve. Addresses of interest: 42 Bexley Street (1881 census) 48 Regent Street (1881 census - 1896 marriage) 2 Sneyd Street (1891 census) 428 Waterloo Road (1901 census) 2 Gordon Street (1901 census RG13/2609/142/14) 23 Hollins Street (1902 marriage) Many thanks to you and to all who have passed their ideas & suggestions forward. Best regards. Ian Phillpott My family website - http://hometown.aol.co.uk/phillpottdebian/index.htm

My family history research has led me to Stoke, particularly Burslem/Hanley areas. I have a number of addresses known such as: Granville Place Regent Street Gordon Street Hollins Street Sneyd Street Work seems to have revolved around iron & steel working rather than pottery. I wondered if any who know this area could suggest a few places to visit/sites to see in the area. I would like to plan a visit this summer but will have a couple of elderly relatives in tow so we won't want to be trudging the streets of Stoke (hence this email). Is there anything in the form of local history museums or displays? Where is the best parking for these areas? I suppose we would really be trying to visit "where our ancestors lived" rather than looking to do any record-office style of research. Any ideas, suggestions or tips would be most welcome as we do not know this area at all. Thanking you in advance. Regards. Ian Phillpott My family website - http://hometown.aol.co.uk/phillpottdebian/index.htm

--WebTV-Mail-5202-36 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Hello, try google for information on Salop and also Madeley. There is quite abit of info on both locations. Salop is in Shropshire. Take care, Noreen ~ (looking for Farnsworth). --WebTV-Mail-5202-36 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpinvite-3302.bay.webtv.net (209.240.205.170) by storefull-3317.bay.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:01:18 -0700 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.18.41]) by smtpinvite-3302.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id D3C93E103 for <Dolls-4-Nor@webtv.net>; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id j3G60ttc006915; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 00:00:55 -0600 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 00:00:55 -0600 Message-Id: <200504160600.j3G60ttc006915@lists5.rootsweb.com> From: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D Digest V05 #61 X-Loop: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume05/61 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com X-Brightmail: Message tested, results are inconclusive ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 61 Today's Topics: #1 County of Salop ["Jeffery K. Davidson" <jdavidson@r] #2 Re: [Pots] County of Salop [EarlJDavis@aol.com] #3 RE: [Pots] County of Salop ["Jackie Jones" <j.jones5890@ntlwor] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D, send a message to ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. To contact the ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D list administrator, send mail to ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-admin@rootsweb.com. ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #1 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:43:22 -0600 From: "Jeffery K. Davidson" <jdavidson@rathandcompany.com> To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <001901c541e2$a0a3c970$6902a8c0@Rath01> Subject: County of Salop Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello, I ordered a birth certificate that is potentially that of my gg grandfather. He, Henry Matthews was, according to census, in Whitmore in about 1838. I found, on 1837online.com reference to an 1838 birth registered Madeley (there is a Madeley not to far from Whitmore). Hoping it was the right won, I took a chance and ordered it (hoping the residence information might confirm something). Unfortunately, all the residence information says is "Park Lane". Anyway, I received the certicate to find it is in the "County of Salop". Now, I have never heard of such a county or Salopshire before. I cannot find a town called Salop. Can anyone tell me what Salop is? Is this the Madeley in Staffordshire, the one in Shropshire or another Madeley. Thoughts. Thank you. Jeffery Davidson Calgary, Canada ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #2 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:14:59 EDT From: EarlJDavis@aol.com To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <ae.7060e584.2f915ea3@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Pots] County of Salop Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi Salop = Shropshire. Hope this helps. Regards Earl. ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #3 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 00:17:31 +0100 From: "Jackie Jones" <j.jones5890@ntlworld.com> To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <20050415231732.LPSQ1352.aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@D8X6K91J> Subject: RE: [Pots] County of Salop Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jeffery The county of Salop is actually Shropshire. This is a county on the border of Wales and England. Hopes this helps. Jackie J -----Original Message----- From: Jeffery K. Davidson [mailto:jdavidson@rathandcompany.com] Sent: 15 April 2005 18:43 To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Pots] County of Salop Hello, I ordered a birth certificate that is potentially that of my gg grandfather. He, Henry Matthews was, according to census, in Whitmore in about 1838. I found, on 1837online.com reference to an 1838 birth registered Madeley (there is a Madeley not to far from Whitmore). Hoping it was the right won, I took a chance and ordered it (hoping the residence information might confirm something). Unfortunately, all the residence information says is "Park Lane". Anyway, I received the certicate to find it is in the "County of Salop". Now, I have never heard of such a county or Salopshire before. I cannot find a town called Salop. Can anyone tell me what Salop is? Is this the Madeley in Staffordshire, the one in Shropshire or another Madeley. Thoughts. Thank you. Jeffery Davidson Calgary, Canada ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire -------------------------------- End of ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D Digest V05 Issue #61 *************************************************** --WebTV-Mail-5202-36--