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Does anyone know if the forename "Phoebe" is used as a nickname in England....and if so for what name might it be. I know this seems like a dumb question, but I have a will that lists someone as Phoebe Bibby in 1855...and I have gleaned the census and cannot come up with anyone named Phoebe....was hoping maybe it was used for another name... Thanks to all...everyone has been so helpful in the past. Ruth

Hi Babs, Yes, Maer and Meir Heath are two separate places. Maer is situated just off the A53 between Newcastle-under-Lyme and Market Drayton. Meir Heath is on the A 520 between Blythe Bridge and Stone. I think that Maer has it's own parish church, but not sure about Meir Heath as it is only a small place Regards, Jean. -------Original Message------- From: Babs Astley Date: 06/19/05 17:20:46 To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Pots] Maer/Meir Heath Hi List, Would SKS be able to tell me if Maer and Meir Heath are 2 separate places in Staffs? If they are, what would be the distance between them. Also, would anyone know the name of the parish churches. Thanks in anticipation, Regards, Babs. ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire

Hi List, Would SKS be able to tell me if Maer and Meir Heath are 2 separate places in Staffs? If they are, what would be the distance between them. Also, would anyone know the name of the parish churches. Thanks in anticipation, Regards, Babs.

Thanks for the census but it is not the right one unless they got his age wrong as he was born in either 1841 or 42 as he was 25 when he married and in all the census that i have for hin the match the dates that i have. any more suggestions would be gratefully appreciated regards Joan ----------------------------------------- Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/

Hi Listers The Staffs BMD has been updated with the following records .... Added 6,759 Marriages Stoke-on-Trent Registration District:- Burslem: St Paul - 1902 to 1915 & 1951 to 1972 Tunstall: St Mary - 1917 to 1972 Stafford Registration District:- Stowe by Chartley: St John the Baptist - 1837 to 2002 Forebridge: St Paul - 1844 to 1885 Stafford: St Mary - 1873 to 1903 Stone, Dominican Church - (Margaret Street) - 1917 to 1984 Eccleshall, Methodist Chapel - (Stone Road) - 1973 to 1994 Eccleshall, Church of the Sacred Heart - (Stone Road) - 1976 to 1986 Barlaston, Methodist Church Hall - (Park Drive) - 1935 to 1973 Fulford, Methodist Church - (Cross Gate) - 1926 to 1988 Stone, Methodist Chapel - 1935 to 1976 Swynnerton, St.Marys Chapel - 1956 to 1989 Barlaston, Methodist Church - (Rough Close) - 1935 to 1973 Rising Brook (Stafford), Baptist Church Centre - 1983 to 1989 regards Bill ======================================================================== The Staffordshire BMD can be found at http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk and the West Midlands BMD at http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk (If you live in the North/Mid Staffs area, South Cheshire area or the West Midlands and would like to help Photostating,Transcribing or Co-ordinating then please email me asap please!!) ========================================================================

Hi Ester I did try to get Williams birth certificate but i had the wrong info and the certificate could not be found. I will have another go as i know from his marriage certificate that he was 25 when he married so that makes his date of birth 1841/2. Thanks for your help regards Joan ----------------------------------------- Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/

Joan - several options , 1 You know when William was born and that his father was Joseph - if you get a copy of his birth cert that will give you the name of his mother full maiden name and where they were living when William was born. 2 How old was William on his wedding cert ? was he about 22 ? if so you could look at the 1851 census index. There is one Evason and 1851 but there are other spellings of the name as well. I will send you the 1851 and see if that makes sense to you 3 On that census luckily he has his mother in law with him and wife Jane so you know her maiden name and can check that against the cert in 1) above and that will give proof you have the correct family in 1851. 4 You can then search freeBMD for a death of Joseph Evason in Staffordshire between 1851 and 1867. 5 Don’t forget William may have lied on his marriage cert and said his father was deceased when he was alive !!. If the 1851 census above proves correct then look at a few weddings of Josephs other children. If you get some saying he is alive then that will narrow down the search. If you get someone saying that Joseph is alive after 1867 then Wm may have fibbed. Steve -----Original Message----- From: evason100@ntlworld.com [mailto:evason100@ntlworld.com] Sent: 16 June 2005 16:52 To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Pots] Help please Hi all. Wonder if anybody could suggest how i can find out when my gr-gr-grandfathers father was born, when he died or who he married. I know that Joseph Evason died before 1867 when William married as i have a copy of William's marriage certificate. They married in Wolstanton. I have looked on the 1861 census but can find no record of William or his father so i am presuming that Joseph died before this. Any help of suggestions would be gratefully recieved. Regards Joan ----------------------------------------- Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/ ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.3/15 - Release Date: 14/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.3/15 - Release Date: 14/06/2005

Hi all. Wonder if anybody could suggest how i can find out when my gr-gr-grandfathers father was born, when he died or who he married. I know that Joseph Evason died before 1867 when William married as i have a copy of William's marriage certificate. They married in Wolstanton. I have looked on the 1861 census but can find no record of William or his father so i am presuming that Joseph died before this. Any help of suggestions would be gratefully recieved. Regards Joan ----------------------------------------- Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/

> Wonder if anybody could suggest how i can find out when my gr-gr-grandfathers father was born, when he died or who he married. I know that Joseph Evason died before 1867 when William married as i have a copy of William's marriage certificate. They married in Wolstanton. I have looked on the 1861 census but can find no record of William or his father so i am presuming that Joseph died before this. Any help of suggestions Joan, you don't say when William was born, but that was after 1837, have you tried to get his birth certificate? That should give both parents' names, as well as the address where William was born. With that information you might then try and find parish records. Esther

Many thanks for your reply,but I have already tried the Address listed and it has been returned as "undeliverable".Apparently it is a webpage that has not been updated since 2001. Regards William Russell Jones Cefn Mawr Wrexham. ----- Original Message ----- From: "john richardson" <jjminfiek@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [Pots] Alan Haverley > hello, > > If this Alan is on rootweb then there must be an email address!!! > > John > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "williamjonesjonqms" <williamjonesjonqms@supanet.com> > To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:19 AM > Subject: [Pots] Alan Haverley > > >> This may seem highly unusual,but has anyone ever made contact with an >> Alan Haverley.I was browsing through some Famil trees submitted to >> Rootsweb last night,and came across one submitted by this Alan >> Haverley.as he may hold "vital" info with regards to my Mountford family >> from Hanley,quite naturally I would wish to make contact with him. >> >> Regards >> William Russell Jones >> Cefn Mawr >> Wrexham. >> >> >> ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== >> The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire >> >> > > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > >

hello, If this Alan is on rootweb then there must be an email address!!! John ----- Original Message ----- From: "williamjonesjonqms" <williamjonesjonqms@supanet.com> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:19 AM Subject: [Pots] Alan Haverley > This may seem highly unusual,but has anyone ever made contact with an Alan > Haverley.I was browsing through some Famil trees submitted to Rootsweb > last night,and came across one submitted by this Alan Haverley.as he may > hold "vital" info with regards to my Mountford family from Hanley,quite > naturally I would wish to make contact with him. > > Regards > William Russell Jones > Cefn Mawr > Wrexham. > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > >

This may seem highly unusual,but has anyone ever made contact with an Alan Haverley.I was browsing through some Famil trees submitted to Rootsweb last night,and came across one submitted by this Alan Haverley.as he may hold "vital" info with regards to my Mountford family from Hanley,quite naturally I would wish to make contact with him. Regards William Russell Jones Cefn Mawr Wrexham.

Thank you to all those that replied. I quess now these must be two different people, I did hope that they would be the same person. I have from the IGI the children of John Sheldon and Hannah, I have John and Hannah in 1841 with their children, in 1851 Hannah has changed to Fanny, so I quess Hannah must have died and John married again to Fanny. John married again later, so he must have liked wedding cake ! Once again, thanks to all. Researching from the Potteries : Weston Sheldon Mosely Meakin Walters ( Caverswall ) Lymer

Hi William, ’m not sure whether your Sarah WAKEFIELD is related to my family. My WAKEFIELDS came from N Staffs/Cheshire borders (Mow Cop) and so far the earliest I have found is a Nathan WAKEFIELD born around 1680. I believe he is my 6 x gt granddad but have yet to confirm this. I have data from various parish records of which Burslem is one, also in Stoke, Norton, New Chapel, and Wolstanton My 2 x gt granddad, Benjamin, was born 1800 at Brieryhurst Farm, Mow Cop. I believe that the family sold the farm around 1820 as it was not big enough to support them all. I know that Benjamin married Hannah HILL and they moved to Aston in Birmingham and there raised their family for whom I now have a great many details. It is quite possible that other family members stayed in Staffs and that Sarah could be a niece of Benjamin. Experience has shown that it is always worth keeping a record of all possible connections. My Hancocks are quiite a bit earlier than yours. I have a Thomas WAKEFIELD who married a Mary HANCOCK in 1792. I think this Mary may have died because parish registers show the death of a Mary WAKEFIELD, age 24, in 1801. Then in 1803 there is a Thomas Wakefield marrying a Lucy HANCOCK. This could have been her sister, but that is just speculation. They could be related to your later HANCOCKs. Hanley is part of Stoke so in the same area of N Staffs.- who knows! Penny

I have two Hancock lines in my tree.....any connection to your family.. 1. Luke Hancock (parents unknown still) b 1836 Brieyhurst Wolstanton, married: Paulina Oakes Mellor, St. Margarets, Wolstanton 2. Samuel Hancock (parents unknown still) b 1847 Mow Cop married Jane McCall 1871 St. Thomas Mow Cop. Hope to hear from you, or anyone else following these lines. ----- Original Message ----- From: PWakefield03@aol.com<mailto:PWakefield03@aol.com> To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 7:37 AM Subject: [Pots] Re: Reposting interests- WAKEFIELDS and others Researching - WAKEFIELD, ALLGOOD, BAILEY, GOODFELLOW, HAMMERSLEY, HANCOCK, HOBKIN, WARREN all in N Staffs/Cheshire borders –Brieryhurst Farm Mow Cop, Odd Rode, Norton, Wolstanton, Burslem areas 1680-1820 and possibly after this. WAKEFIELD, BATES,CLARK-BARKER, DICKINSON, GREEN, HARRIS, HILL, HOLDEN, KIRBY, JONES, SHAW, SIMMONS, WOOLLEY in Birmingham (mainly Aston. Handsworth areas) 1820 onwards. ALLGOOD in Whitwick, Leicestershire, 1810 onwards HARRIS in Westcotes, Leicester, 1800s SIMMONS in Hoboken, New Jersey from 1870 onwards WHITE in N Yorks/Durham late 1800s Would love to hear from anyone else with interest in these names. Penny in Hinckley ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire

I have a Sarah Wakefield in my Tree,she was born in Burslem in c 1825.She married one of my Lovatt Family.I also have several Hancock entries in my Family Tree,but they were all from Hanley,starting with a Ralph Hancock born in c 1855,who married one of my Cartlidge Family. Regards William Russell Jones Cefn Mawr Wrexham. ----- Original Message ----- From: <PWakefield03@aol.com> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 12:37 PM Subject: [Pots] Re: Reposting interests- WAKEFIELDS and others Researching - WAKEFIELD, ALLGOOD, BAILEY, GOODFELLOW, HAMMERSLEY, HANCOCK, HOBKIN, WARREN all in N Staffs/Cheshire borders –Brieryhurst Farm Mow Cop, Odd Rode, Norton, Wolstanton, Burslem areas 1680-1820 and possibly after this. WAKEFIELD, BATES,CLARK-BARKER, DICKINSON, GREEN, HARRIS, HILL, HOLDEN, KIRBY, JONES, SHAW, SIMMONS, WOOLLEY in Birmingham (mainly Aston. Handsworth areas) 1820 onwards. ALLGOOD in Whitwick, Leicestershire, 1810 onwards HARRIS in Westcotes, Leicester, 1800s SIMMONS in Hoboken, New Jersey from 1870 onwards WHITE in N Yorks/Durham late 1800s Would love to hear from anyone else with interest in these names. Penny in Hinckley ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire

Penny: I have a John Hancock who married a Mary Parkinson in the early-mid 1800s. Is there a connection to your Hancocks? Ron Hancock ----- Original Message ----- From: <PWakefield03@aol.com> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 7:37 AM Subject: [Pots] Re: Reposting interests- WAKEFIELDS and others > > Researching - WAKEFIELD, ALLGOOD, BAILEY, GOODFELLOW, HAMMERSLEY, HANCOCK, > HOBKIN, WARREN all in N Staffs/Cheshire borders –Brieryhurst Farm Mow Cop, > Odd Rode, Norton, Wolstanton, Burslem areas 1680-1820 and possibly after > this. > > WAKEFIELD, BATES,CLARK-BARKER, DICKINSON, GREEN, HARRIS, HILL, HOLDEN, > KIRBY, JONES, SHAW, SIMMONS, WOOLLEY in Birmingham (mainly Aston. Handsworth > areas) 1820 onwards. > ALLGOOD in Whitwick, Leicestershire, 1810 onwards > HARRIS in Westcotes, Leicester, 1800s > SIMMONS in Hoboken, New Jersey from 1870 onwards > WHITE in N Yorks/Durham late 1800s > Would love to hear from anyone else with interest in these names. > Penny in Hinckley > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire >

Researching - WAKEFIELD, ALLGOOD, BAILEY, GOODFELLOW, HAMMERSLEY, HANCOCK, HOBKIN, WARREN all in N Staffs/Cheshire borders –Brieryhurst Farm Mow Cop, Odd Rode, Norton, Wolstanton, Burslem areas 1680-1820 and possibly after this. WAKEFIELD, BATES,CLARK-BARKER, DICKINSON, GREEN, HARRIS, HILL, HOLDEN, KIRBY, JONES, SHAW, SIMMONS, WOOLLEY in Birmingham (mainly Aston. Handsworth areas) 1820 onwards. ALLGOOD in Whitwick, Leicestershire, 1810 onwards HARRIS in Westcotes, Leicester, 1800s SIMMONS in Hoboken, New Jersey from 1870 onwards WHITE in N Yorks/Durham late 1800s Would love to hear from anyone else with interest in these names. Penny in Hinckley

Hi Ruth It's most probably Greets Green West Bromwich Staffordshire (now West Midlands), adjacent to Rowley Regis, where the name ONIONS is fairly common. Garrets Green Birmingham isn't really near to Rowley. HTH Dave 8-)) List Admin: Potteries -----Original Message----- From: Amy Smith [mailto:FamilyHistorySeeker@msn.com] Sent: 07 June 2005 13:30 To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Pots] Where is Grett's Green--Surnames Onions & Webb Can anyone tell me where Grett's Green would be located. The marriage certificate says: Parish of Rowley Regis....what might be around this area? I'm trying to locate Charles Onions and Samuel Webb families..there children Edwin and Emma were married in the above place in 1863. Thanks, Ruth, USA