My 4th ggmother was Judith Brough born 1785 in Biddulph, she was one of ten children of Robert Brough of Biddulph born 1749. The more complete list is at http://www.whitecat.co.uk/genealogy/legacy/index.htm Hope we might be connected John Clare ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Brough" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 03 January 2003 14:11 Subject: New Enquirer > Hello, > > I am a member of the rootsweb, and have viewed lots of other mails form all over looking for different people. I am trying to look at my ancestry and have not got very far as some of my family are not around to ask about recent events. > > My Surname is BROUGH and my family originate from Burslem in the Potteries, I know that my immiediate family moved to Bradwell and some of my Mothers side still live in that area. > > Are there any People out there who have run into the Brough or Waterhouse Name ( my mothers maiden name) in the Burslem area ? > > Can anyone point me inthe right direction to look for records or references to trace these people. > > Any help would be much appreciated. > > > David Brough > Eng.Tech. AMIIE (elec.) > > 07801 905335 > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire >

Hello, I am a member of the rootsweb, and have viewed lots of other mails form all over looking for different people. I am trying to look at my ancestry and have not got very far as some of my family are not around to ask about recent events. My Surname is BROUGH and my family originate from Burslem in the Potteries, I know that my immiediate family moved to Bradwell and some of my Mothers side still live in that area. Are there any People out there who have run into the Brough or Waterhouse Name ( my mothers maiden name) in the Burslem area ? Can anyone point me inthe right direction to look for records or references to trace these people. Any help would be much appreciated. David Brough Eng.Tech. AMIIE (elec.) 07801 905335

In a message dated 03/01/2003 14:09:34 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > My Surname is BROUGH and my family originate from Burslem in the Potteries, > I know that my immiediate family moved to Bradwell and some of my Mothers > side still live in that area. > > Are there any People out there who have run into the Brough or Waterhouse > Name ( my mothers maiden name) in the Burslem area ? > > Can anyone point me inthe right direction to look for records or references > to trace these people. > > Any help would be much appreciated. > > > David Brough > Eng.Tech. AMIIE (elec.) > > 07801 905335 Hi David. There is a BROUGH family society for the Staffordshire Brough's at: www.broughfamily.org Regards Earl. Descended from Ralph BROUGH (1701-1772) of Blurton and Trentham

I am researching the following names - BANKS : Stretton (Cheshire), Manchester (Lancs) BRADBURY : Lymm (Cheshire) BROWNBILL : St Helens (Lancs) CALLAGHAN : St Helens (Lancs), Ireland DANIELS : Bowdon (Cheshire) GABRIEL : St Helens (Lancs), Liverpool (Lancs) GRATWICH : Barlaston (Staffs) HIGHAM : Lymm (Cheshire), Leigh (Lancs) JOHNSON : Over Peover (Cheshire) JOHNS(T)ON : Wallasey (Cheshire), Birkenhead (Cheshire), Hull (East Riding), North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland), Ryton (Co. Durham) JONES : Whitchurch (Shrops) LEIGH : Lymm (Cheshire) MILLER : Lymm (Cheshire), Grappenhall (Cheshire) MOSTON/MOSSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Over Peover (Cheshire) NORBURY : Liverpool (Lancs) PERCIVAL : Lymm (Cheshire), Antrobus (Cheshire) RICHARDSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Prescot (Lancs) TABERN : St Helens (Lancs) THOMPSON : North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland) WILLIAMSON : Cheshire WINSTANLEY : Lymm (Cheshire) WOOTTON : Barlaston (Staffs), Moddershall (Staffs), Stone (Staffs) I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests. Thanks Tim

Have been here before but I am hoping some one will make my Christmas! Anyone out there with interests in the name Bevington, Beavington, Bebington, Berington, Beverton etc.... Am really stuck due to the missing Hanley Registers. Has anyone found any papers that could be used instead of these registers? Many thanks and a Merry Christmas! Sandra

List. Areas of interest are MORREY Staffordshire TURNOCK Staffordshire/Leek COYNE Saffordshire/Liverpool 1800s Thanks Steve

Hugh, Many thanks for the information.I'll have a proper look when the kids are in bed. I'm now in Bristol so if you need any help with places I'll do my best. All the Best, Helen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Watkins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 4:33 PM Subject: Re: Potters in new jersey > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ian.hopkins > Sent: 03 December 2002 14:04 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Potters in new jersey > > Hi Hugh, > > Good to see you back on the list.I hope you kept busy on your break!!!!!!! > > You mentioned the Irish and Roman Catholic lists being in a Cathedral in > Birmingham.Do you have an address or a website for information??? 4 of my > G.G.Grandparents were Irish,and Roman Catholic I think. > I'm really struggling to get anything on them so any help would be most > appreciated. > > > << STS was a bit too busy and too much Black Country > > along with GLS MON Bristol_and_Somerset to keep up with and usenet > so I have been lurking in Potters all along > some of these Irish were illiterate so expect the spelling of surnames to vary - especially the vowels. Grannon Grannnen for example amd birthplace "Ireland" is not a big help. > Mine > > Descendants of John Riley > Hanley folk > 1 John Riley possibly a groom from Ireland who came down the Holyhead Road with some horses > ........ 2 Mitchell (Michael) Riley 1855 - a carter > ............ +Harriet Ann Kent 1857 - father Gerorge Kent mother Ann Hanley or Etruria > ................... 3 Annie Riley 1877 - > ................... 3 Thomas Riley 1880 - > ................... 3 William Riley 1882 - > ................... 3 John Riley 1884 - > ................... 3 George Riley 1889 - > ................... 3 Henry Riley 1889 - 1901 > ................... 3 Samuel Ernest Riley 1896 - 1967 > ....................... +Mary Grannon 1902 - 1952 > .............................. 4 Samuel Riley 1920 - 1992 > snip > Descendants of Bryan Grannon > 1 Bryan Grannon > ........ 2 John Grannon 1854 - Ireland Roscom: > Bricklayers labourer then collier > ............ +Maria Duffy 1856 - Ireland Roscom: father Micael Duffy > Potters Sponger > married St Mary & St Patrick's Church **** Hanley Stoke T 6b 311 > ................... 3 Kate Grannon 1878 - > ................... 3 Bernard Grannon 1879 - > ................... 3 Eliza Grannon 1880 - > ................... 3 John Grannon 1885 - > ................... 3 Michael Grannon 1887 - > ................... 3 Peter Grannon 1891 - > ................... 3 Mary Grannon 1902 - 1952 > ....................... +Samuel Ernest Riley 1896 - 1967 > .............................. 4 Samuel Riley 1920 - 1992 > > .............................. 4 George Patrick Riley 1925 - 1982 > snip - > .............................. 4 Karen Riley > .............................. 4 Lorraine Riley > > The RC church was a mission church until 1918 > > married by > Father William Malloy > Rites andCeromonies of the Roman Catholics > X the Mark of John Grannon > X the Mark of Maria Duffy > witnesses:- > John Currigan > Catherine Morgan > Dwelling: Eastwood Pl. The Presbyty > Census Place: (Stoke Upon Trent) Shelton, Stafford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341652 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2722 Folio 122 Page 42 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > W. (Rev) MOLLOY U 63 M Ireland > Rel: Head > Occ: Roman Cath. Priest > Lucy GALLIMORE U 39 F Hanley, Stafford, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Housekeeper (Dom) > Father (Rev) ROWES U 29 M Ireland > Rel: Boarder > Occ: Curate Rom. Cath. Priest > Polly KEIMS U 22 F Ireland > Rel: Serv. > Occ: Dom. Serv. > ?? > Dwelling: 26 N Castle St > Census Place: Stoke Upon Trent, Stafford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341654 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2728 Folio 102 Page 34 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Patrick GRANNEN M 36 M Rosscommon, Ireland > Rel: Head > Occ: Agri Laborer > > 7 Toll Street, Hanley > > http://home.att.net/~Local_Catholic/Catholic-England-Wales.htm > Archdiocese of Birmingham [est. 1850] > Diocesan offices: Cathedral House, St Chad's Queensway, Birmingham B4 6EX. > Phone: 0121-236-5535 - Fax 0121-233-9266. > The Archdiocese of Birmingham encompasses the Counties of Warwickshire, Oxfordshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands and Worcestershire. > History of the Diocese of Birmingham, by John Caswell, from The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume II, 1907, by Robert Appleton Company, Online Edition, by Kevin Knight, 1999.- > Prior to September 1850, the counties of Oxford, Stafford, Warwick, and Worcester were included, first in the Midland, then in the Central, District or Vicariate, which had been governed by Vicars-Apostolic since 1688... > http://birminghamdiocese.org.uk/ > http://www.birminghamdiocese.org.uk/archives/archives.htm > > BIRMINGHAM ARCHDIOCESAN ARCHIVES > > Cathedral House, St Chad’s Queensway, Birmingham, B4 6EU > Telephone: 0121 230 6252 > E-Mail: [email protected] > > Archivist: The Rev. Dr John Sharp > > The Birmingham Archdiocesan Archives contains the historical documents of the Midland District (1688-1840), Central District (1840-1850), Diocese of Birmingham (1850-1911), Archdiocese of Birmingham (1911-). It is also the repository of the parishes of the archdiocese and contains many parish registers. > > The archives are normally open to members of the public on three days of the week (Wednesday-Friday) from 11 am until 6 pm. No charge is made. It is necessary to make an appointment by letter, telephone or e-mail before visiting; casual visitors are not admitted. ID (including address) must be produced on a first visit. > > The archivist cannot undertake research. > > very helpful > > Registers written in latin including christian names > > BIRMINGHAM ARCHDIOCESAN ARCHIVES > > I forgot the ARCH- so difficult to Google > > Hugh WGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire >

----- Original Message ----- From: ian.hopkins Sent: 03 December 2002 14:04 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Potters in new jersey Hi Hugh, Good to see you back on the list.I hope you kept busy on your break!!!!!!! You mentioned the Irish and Roman Catholic lists being in a Cathedral in Birmingham.Do you have an address or a website for information??? 4 of my G.G.Grandparents were Irish,and Roman Catholic I think. I'm really struggling to get anything on them so any help would be most appreciated. << STS was a bit too busy and too much Black Country along with GLS MON Bristol_and_Somerset to keep up with and usenet so I have been lurking in Potters all along some of these Irish were illiterate so expect the spelling of surnames to vary - especially the vowels. Grannon Grannnen for example amd birthplace "Ireland" is not a big help. Mine Descendants of John Riley Hanley folk 1 John Riley possibly a groom from Ireland who came down the Holyhead Road with some horses ........ 2 Mitchell (Michael) Riley 1855 - a carter ............ +Harriet Ann Kent 1857 - father Gerorge Kent mother Ann Hanley or Etruria ................... 3 Annie Riley 1877 - ................... 3 Thomas Riley 1880 - ................... 3 William Riley 1882 - ................... 3 John Riley 1884 - ................... 3 George Riley 1889 - ................... 3 Henry Riley 1889 - 1901 ................... 3 Samuel Ernest Riley 1896 - 1967 ....................... +Mary Grannon 1902 - 1952 .............................. 4 Samuel Riley 1920 - 1992 snip Descendants of Bryan Grannon 1 Bryan Grannon ........ 2 John Grannon 1854 - Ireland Roscom: Bricklayers labourer then collier ............ +Maria Duffy 1856 - Ireland Roscom: father Micael Duffy Potters Sponger married St Mary & St Patrick's Church **** Hanley Stoke T 6b 311 ................... 3 Kate Grannon 1878 - ................... 3 Bernard Grannon 1879 - ................... 3 Eliza Grannon 1880 - ................... 3 John Grannon 1885 - ................... 3 Michael Grannon 1887 - ................... 3 Peter Grannon 1891 - ................... 3 Mary Grannon 1902 - 1952 ....................... +Samuel Ernest Riley 1896 - 1967 .............................. 4 Samuel Riley 1920 - 1992 .............................. 4 George Patrick Riley 1925 - 1982 snip - .............................. 4 Karen Riley .............................. 4 Lorraine Riley The RC church was a mission church until 1918 married by Father William Malloy Rites andCeromonies of the Roman Catholics X the Mark of John Grannon X the Mark of Maria Duffy witnesses:- John Currigan Catherine Morgan Dwelling: Eastwood Pl. The Presbyty Census Place: (Stoke Upon Trent) Shelton, Stafford, England Source: FHL Film 1341652 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2722 Folio 122 Page 42 Marr Age Sex Birthplace W. (Rev) MOLLOY U 63 M Ireland Rel: Head Occ: Roman Cath. Priest Lucy GALLIMORE U 39 F Hanley, Stafford, England Rel: Serv Occ: Housekeeper (Dom) Father (Rev) ROWES U 29 M Ireland Rel: Boarder Occ: Curate Rom. Cath. Priest Polly KEIMS U 22 F Ireland Rel: Serv. Occ: Dom. Serv. ?? Dwelling: 26 N Castle St Census Place: Stoke Upon Trent, Stafford, England Source: FHL Film 1341654 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2728 Folio 102 Page 34 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Patrick GRANNEN M 36 M Rosscommon, Ireland Rel: Head Occ: Agri Laborer 7 Toll Street, Hanley http://home.att.net/~Local_Catholic/Catholic-England-Wales.htm Archdiocese of Birmingham [est. 1850] Diocesan offices: Cathedral House, St Chad's Queensway, Birmingham B4 6EX. Phone: 0121-236-5535 - Fax 0121-233-9266. The Archdiocese of Birmingham encompasses the Counties of Warwickshire, Oxfordshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands and Worcestershire. History of the Diocese of Birmingham, by John Caswell, from The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume II, 1907, by Robert Appleton Company, Online Edition, by Kevin Knight, 1999.- Prior to September 1850, the counties of Oxford, Stafford, Warwick, and Worcester were included, first in the Midland, then in the Central, District or Vicariate, which had been governed by Vicars-Apostolic since 1688... http://birminghamdiocese.org.uk/ http://www.birminghamdiocese.org.uk/archives/archives.htm BIRMINGHAM ARCHDIOCESAN ARCHIVES Cathedral House, St Chad’s Queensway, Birmingham, B4 6EU Telephone: 0121 230 6252 E-Mail: [email protected] Archivist: The Rev. Dr John Sharp The Birmingham Archdiocesan Archives contains the historical documents of the Midland District (1688-1840), Central District (1840-1850), Diocese of Birmingham (1850-1911), Archdiocese of Birmingham (1911-). It is also the repository of the parishes of the archdiocese and contains many parish registers. The archives are normally open to members of the public on three days of the week (Wednesday-Friday) from 11 am until 6 pm. No charge is made. It is necessary to make an appointment by letter, telephone or e-mail before visiting; casual visitors are not admitted. ID (including address) must be produced on a first visit. The archivist cannot undertake research. very helpful Registers written in latin including christian names BIRMINGHAM ARCHDIOCESAN ARCHIVES I forgot the ARCH- so difficult to Google Hugh WGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Hi Hugh, Good to see you back on the list.I hope you kept busy on your break!!!!!!! You mentioned the Irish and Roman Catholic lists being in a Cathedral in Birmingham.Do you have an address or a website for information??? 4 of my G.G.Grandparents were Irish,and Roman Catholic I think. I'm really struggling to get anything on them so any help would be most appreciated. Many Thanks and Best Wishes, Helen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Watkins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 7:14 PM Subject: Re: Potters in new jersey > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > Sent: 02 December 2002 18:22 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Potters in new jersey > > In a message dated 02/12/2002 18:12:48 GMT Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > > Do you know if there were Potter's from Staffordshire sent to Trenton, New > > Jersey in the 1870-1890. My grandfather- Thomas Stephenson (Stevenson) > > went there in this time period. > > Sincerely, Marjorie Stephenson Allcorn. > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > Hi Marjorie. Some people called Trenton, the US Potteries. There was a lot > > of migration of families in the Staffordshire Potteries and Trenton. Some > > of my CYPLES family went from Longton in the Potteries and settled in > > Burlington County in New Jersey. > > > > The early 20th century directories for Trenton are quite useful and someone > > managed to trace my CYPLES family there after posting on one of the Trenton > > County boards on rootsweb. > > > and don't forget the Irish and their descendants > many were Roman Catholics and their registers are in the archives of the Birmingham RC Diocese > at that cathedral > BRUM UK > you have to finds some ships lists and manifests Ellis Island site starts about 1892 > > Hugh WGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire >

That's good news. My great uncle William Bourne went to Trenton NJ circa 1910, maybe later. He married stateside and had a family. I have photos of the family sent to his sister/neices and my uncle, now deceased was still writing to some of them circa 1960. I am now trying to trace them. www.risinsun.co.uk Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0 - Release Date: 21/11/02 ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 7:07 PM Subject: Re: Potters in new jersey Not sure if my last message went so sending again. Radio stoke habve joined up with decendants of potters who went stateside. Try contacting them at www.bbc.co.uk/england/radiostok/ Then ask you questions of them - they may be able to put you in touch with other researchers at your end Stuty > > From: "margie" <[email protected]> > Date: Mon 02/Dec/2002 18:25 GMT > To: [email protected] > Subject: Potters in new jersey > > Do you know if there were Potter's from Staffordshire sent to Trenton, New Jersey in the 1870-1890. My grandfather- Thomas Stephenson (Stevenson) went there in this time period. > Sincerely, Marjorie Stephenson Allcorn. > [email protected] > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > > > _______________________________________________________________________ Freeserve AnyTime, only £13.99 per month with one month's FREE trial! For more information visit http://www.freeserve.com/time/ or call free on 0800 970 8890 ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire

----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] Sent: 02 December 2002 18:22 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Potters in new jersey In a message dated 02/12/2002 18:12:48 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Do you know if there were Potter's from Staffordshire sent to Trenton, New > Jersey in the 1870-1890. My grandfather- Thomas Stephenson (Stevenson) > went there in this time period. > Sincerely, Marjorie Stephenson Allcorn. > [email protected] > > > > Hi Marjorie. Some people called Trenton, the US Potteries. There was a lot > of migration of families in the Staffordshire Potteries and Trenton. Some > of my CYPLES family went from Longton in the Potteries and settled in > Burlington County in New Jersey. > > The early 20th century directories for Trenton are quite useful and someone > managed to trace my CYPLES family there after posting on one of the Trenton > County boards on rootsweb. and don't forget the Irish and their descendants many were Roman Catholics and their registers are in the archives of the Birmingham RC Diocese at that cathedral BRUM UK you have to finds some ships lists and manifests Ellis Island site starts about 1892 Hugh WGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Not sure if my last message went so sending again. Radio stoke habve joined up with decendants of potters who went stateside. Try contacting them at www.bbc.co.uk/england/radiostok/ Then ask you questions of them - they may be able to put you in touch with other researchers at your end Stuty > > From: "margie" <[email protected]> > Date: Mon 02/Dec/2002 18:25 GMT > To: [email protected] > Subject: Potters in new jersey > > Do you know if there were Potter's from Staffordshire sent to Trenton, New Jersey in the 1870-1890. My grandfather- Thomas Stephenson (Stevenson) went there in this time period. > Sincerely, Marjorie Stephenson Allcorn. > [email protected] > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > > > _______________________________________________________________________ Freeserve AnyTime, only £13.99 per month with one month's FREE trial! For more information visit http://www.freeserve.com/time/ or call free on 0800 970 8890

Do you know if there were Potter's from Staffordshire sent to Trenton, New Jersey in the 1870-1890. My grandfather- Thomas Stephenson (Stevenson) went there in this time period. Sincerely, Marjorie Stephenson Allcorn. [email protected]

In a message dated 02/12/2002 18:12:48 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Do you know if there were Potter's from Staffordshire sent to Trenton, New > Jersey in the 1870-1890. My grandfather- Thomas Stephenson (Stevenson) > went there in this time period. > Sincerely, Marjorie Stephenson Allcorn. > [email protected] > > > > Hi Marjorie. Some people called Trenton, the US Potteries. There was a lot > of migration of families in the Staffordshire Potteries and Trenton. Some > of my CYPLES family went from Longton in the Potteries and settled in > Burlington County in New Jersey. > > The early 20th century directories for Trenton are quite useful and someone > managed to trace my CYPLES family there after posting on one of the Trenton > County boards on rootsweb. > > Regards Earl Also looking for: BRASSINGTON, Caverswall COCKERSOLE, all England CYPLES worldwide DEGG, Longton, Meir Heath DERRICOTT, Staffs, Shrops, Idao, Utah, South Africa DRESSER, Leek WALKLATE, Longton, Furnace WORSDALE, Shoemakers of Longton WHITEHURST, Cheadle, Dilhorne.

I am researching the following names - BANKS : Stretton (Cheshire), Manchester (Lancs) BRADBURY : Lymm (Cheshire) BROWNBILL : St Helens (Lancs) CALLAGHAN : St Helens (Lancs), Ireland DANIELS : Bowdon (Cheshire) GABRIEL : St Helens (Lancs), Liverpool (Lancs) GRATWICH : Barlaston (Staffs) HIGHAM : Lymm (Cheshire), Leigh (Lancs) JOHNSON : Over Peover (Cheshire) JOHNS(T)ON : Wallasey (Cheshire), Birkenhead (Cheshire), Hull (East Riding), North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland), Ryton (Co. Durham) JONES : Whitchurch (Shrops) LEIGH : Lymm (Cheshire) MILLER : Lymm (Cheshire), Grappenhall (Cheshire) MOSTON/MOSSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Over Peover (Cheshire) NORBURY : Liverpool (Lancs) PERCIVAL : Lymm (Cheshire), Antrobus (Cheshire) RICHARDSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Prescot (Lancs) TABERN : St Helens (Lancs) THOMPSON : North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland) WILLIAMSON : Cheshire WINSTANLEY : Lymm (Cheshire) WOOTTON : Barlaston (Staffs), Moddershall (Staffs), Stone (Staffs) I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests. Thanks Tim

Friends The Memoriam messages posted to the Staffordshire, Potteries and black Country Lists for Remembrance/Veterans Day 11 Nov. 2002, have been collated and loaded to the Staffordshire Genuki Page at- http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/STS/Remembrance.html There is also a link from the Front Page under 'Military Records.' Our thanks go to Mike Harbach - for arranging this!! Helen Verrall Deputy List Admin. STS & POTTS.

GENUKI FAMILY HISTORY NEWS No 116 24th November 2002 Hello everyone and welcome to this weeks GENUKI Family History News. I am off travelling for business again but barring major IT disasters we should be ok for getting out the newsletters. This is currently being written 36000 feet above Quebec on route to New York! I hope you find something of interest in this weeks issue OXFORDSHIRE FHS JOINS THE CD REVOLUTION For over ten years, the Oxfordshire FHS has published a wide range of Parish register transcripts and monumental inscriptions, and census indexes And transcriptions, on microfiche. However, by popular demand, the society Is now making such data available on CD in the popular Adobe Acrobat format. The use of Acrobat means that this data can be accessed by PC and Mac users alike. The 1861, 1871 and 1891 censuses of Oxfordshire and North Berkshire have been fully indexed by members of this society. These continue to be available on microfiche, but are now also on sale on CD. Furthermore, an increasing number of our parish register transcripts are now available on CD, including those for the Oxford City and Wallingford areas. Further area collections will follow on CD in the near future. Another interesting gem now on CD is Volumes 1 to 11 of the "Oxfordshire Family Historian". This is the society's journal, which has been published three times per year since the society's formation in 1976. This CD includes over sixty editions of the journal published over a twenty-one year period, and includes many quality articles written by its first editor, Jeremy Gibson of "Gibson Guides" fame. This is a real treasure trove of data For those with Oxfordshire research interests. For further details of the society's CD publications and how to order them, please see :- http://www.ofhs.org.uk/CDsales.html Any queries about these CDs can be forwarded by e-mail to :- Paul Gaskell Publicity Officer and Minutes Secretary Oxfordshire Family History Society E-mail : [email protected] Website : www.ofhs.org.uk NEW BOOKS AND CD's Surname Landscape In Fermanagh Brian S Turner The first in an authoritative new series of maps and accompanying information which reveal the surname 'landscapes' of Ulster's counties. Resulting from more than 30 years of research Surname Landscape in the County of Fermanagh gives a fascinating insight into the special nature of the county through the varied inheritance which can be seen today. This work is a full colour map of the county locating its most numerous and characteristic contemporary surnames, with the intensity of their occurrence, as well as all the major towns and villages. It also includes a breakdown of the top 100 names in the county and an essay explaining how the surnames of its people relate to Fermanagh's particular history. Of interest to: . Local and social historians . Family historians and genealogists . Community relations and cross-community studies . Libraries . Schools and colleges . All those interested in Fermanagh Produced on high quality paper, the map folds from 60x84 cms to 17x20 cms. It can be framed or used as a poster, and can be supplied unfolded if preferred. E-mail: [email protected] NEW RELEASES FROM ARCHIVE CD BOOKS Reports of Heraldic Cases in The Court of Chivalry 1623-1732 There are many, many ordinary people here, from all parts of the country, all of them easy to find due to the superb index. The Life of William Bruges - The First Garter King of Arms William Bruges was a man of some prominence in his day, the first Garter King of Arms, an excellent herald, diplomat and devoted churchman. Report on Ecclesiastical Revenues of England & Wales 1835 A superb reference book for those interested in Church history or with ancestors who were clergy. Kelly's Directory of Surrey 1911 A very large and comprehensive directory of the county. Kelly's Directory of Sussex 1882 Each town, village and hamlet have excellent descriptions of their histories and facilities, plus directories of private residents and tradespeople. The county town, Brighton also has a superb street by street directory which shows private individuals and traders almost house by house. The 1st Battallion Royal Scots in South Africa, 1899-1902 A totallly superb account of this battalion's exploits during the Anglo-Boer War with literally hundreds of photographs. A real bonus is the index of ALL men serving in B, C, D, E, F, G, Right Flank and Left Flank Companies of the 1st Battalion. This includes ALL ranks, the date of each individual soldier's arrival in South Africa, their employment in service, details of their injuries (or worse), the date of their final departure and any medals and awards made. A truly outstanding book for military and family historians alike. Kelly's Directory of Bristol 1863 An excellent street by street directory of the city Post Office Directory of Herefordshire 1863 It is quite fascinating to compare directories to see how places changed over the years. Archive CD Books homepage - http://www.archivecdbooks.com WEBPAGE REVIEWS http://www.barnettresearch.freeserve.co.uk/main.htm This is a truly excellent site devoted to helping users find out about Merchant Seaman ancestors. The site informs us which records are available, how to use them and what you might realistically find. It also tells us where we might find them. It explains such records as crew lists and many more. The site was clear and simple and extremely easy to navigate, there was no real possibility of getting lost, as there were plenty of hyperlinks to take you to precisely the right spot, and they were well cross referenced. The refreshing lack of needless images also meant the site was quick to load which is a pleasant bonus http://www.bitterne.net/ The website of Bitterne Local History Society. This website follows the pattern of many Family History Society websites, lists of officers, meetings and publications, but this website has an added bonus if you connect via the Lists button. This is a collection of lists which are free to browse. Many f them refer to the two World Wars, it is heartening to see many local and family history societies are using webspace to honour their lost. I would love to see this expanded. The other list I found interesting is the road name changes. It appears many of these happened when Bitterne became part of Southampton in 1924, but if you have a road name on the 1881 census that does not appear on a modern map this may well be the place to look, for Bitterne anyway! CERTIFICATES BIRTHS BRIERS, John. son of William & Agnes. Born 27.3.1898. Lytham. MALONE, Archibald David Maurice. Son of Joseph & Marie. Born 4.8.1893. Toxteth Park. MALONE, Florence Kathleen. Daughter of Edward & Mary Malone. Born 22.3.1894. Portsea. MALONE, William Clarkson. Son of Margaret Malone. Born 13.9.1900. Preston. NICHOLLS, Peter. Son of Thomas & Mary. Born 29.11.1854. Sedgley. MARRIAGES BRIERS, Peter to WHITTLE, Ellen. 24.12.1855. Warton. BRIERS, Eliza Margaret to LOCKWOOD, William Thomas. 11.3.1899. Withington. DEATH HOWARD, Benjamin, 16.12.1900 (aaged 85) Denbigh MALONE, James. 4.4.1849 (aged 7). Bolton. MALONE, Ann. 12.12.1849 (aged 52). Dukinfield. MALONE, James. 29.5.1855 (aged 15). Dukinfield. 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Many, many thanks for that! Is your distant cousin a Bott? Janet Howell www.risinsun.co.uk using AVG virus checking from Grisoft ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 5:33 PM Subject: Re: Peter BOTT > In a message dated 17/11/2002 16:06:35 GMT Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > > > > I am trying to trace Peter BOTT, date of birth circa 1810 > > > > I have two baptisms at High St or Lower Chapel Longton 15 Feb 1836 > > Peter BUTT x Jane > > James BUTT b. 15Feb 1834 > > > > Hi Janet. > > Here is the 1841 Census entry for Peter BOTT. This was sent to me a few > months back by a distant cousin of mine. > > Regards Earl. > > 991/5/28 > > > Swifts Court > > George DANIEL.55..miner...y > Peter BOTT....30..potter..y > Jane..........30..........n > Thomas........18..........n > Rosana........13..........n > William.......11..........n > Peter..........9..........n > James..........7..........y > Mariah.........5..........y > Sarah..........3..........y > John...........2..........y > Mary...........1..........y > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > >

I am trying to trace Peter BOTT, date of birth circa 1810 I have two baptisms at High St or Lower Chapel Longton 15 Feb 1836 Peter BUTT x Jane James BUTT b. 15Feb 1834 Maria BUTT b. 31 Jan 1836 then 9 children and thier dates of birth 1839 - 1851 recorded for Peter BOTT x Jane Simmons (Symmons), all at Lane End or Longton. These are from IGI and data was submitted by someone but source was with held. Sarah b. 1837 John b. 1839 Mary b. 1840 Eliza b. 1842 Jane b. 1844 Martha b. 1846 Amos b. 1847 Mary b. 1849 David b. 1851 I think this is one and the same family but I can't find a birth, marriage or death for Peter. I have lost disc 1 of Midlands 1881 census so can't do any checking there. I think the James BUTT born 1834 is my ggg grandfather as age, father and area fit with his marriage cert. Could someone look for James, Amos, John and David BOTT / BUTT on the 1881 for me please? I am assuming BUTT to be poor transcribing of BOTT. If anyone has earlier census material or Longton/Lane End baptisms (do I assume they stuck with non-conformist baptisms?) then any clues for a further search would be gratefully received. It will be weeks before I can get out to spend an evening or two researching. The marriage must have been a parish one (circa 1834/5). As James was not baptised until 2 years old can I assume they were newly religious or that they just arrived in the area? Added complication maybe this. I know BOTT is a Prussian name as well as Anglo-Saxon English and there was some movement of BOTTs from Germany to US at the start of the 19th Century. Many thanks for reading this - it helps to get thoughts straight. Janet Howell www.risinsun.co.uk using AVG virus checking from Grisoft

In a message dated 17/11/2002 16:06:35 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > > I am trying to trace Peter BOTT, date of birth circa 1810 > > I have two baptisms at High St or Lower Chapel Longton 15 Feb 1836 > Peter BUTT x Jane > James BUTT b. 15Feb 1834 > Hi Janet. Here is the 1841 Census entry for Peter BOTT. This was sent to me a few months back by a distant cousin of mine. Regards Earl. 991/5/28 Swifts Court George DANIEL.55..miner...y Peter BOTT....30..potter..y Jane..........30..........n Thomas........18..........n Rosana........13..........n William.......11..........n Peter..........9..........n James..........7..........y Mariah.........5..........y Sarah..........3..........y John...........2..........y Mary...........1..........y