Is anyone able to assist in a death look up, still hitting too many barriers here, for 2 deaths husband and wife: Frederick Davenport and Mary Ellen Davenport - died around Hanley between 1904 - 1918. He was a potter. Frederick was born 1861Tunstall and mary ellen born 1864 Golden hill. Also I have found on their 1901 census result borders living with them by name of Hicks if anyone is looking for Charles, Margaret Hicks and son Harold. thanks sue

Hi Sue, Try the new website , but still being transcribed. www.staffordshirebmd.co.uk You may be lucky. Regards Jean. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 3:42 AM Subject: [Pots] Davenport Look up > Is anyone able to assist in a death look up, still hitting too many barriers here, > for 2 deaths > husband and wife: > Frederick Davenport and Mary Ellen Davenport - died around Hanley between 1904 - 1918. He was a potter. Frederick was born 1861Tunstall and mary ellen born 1864 Golden hill. > > Also I have found on their 1901 census result borders living with them by name of Hicks if anyone is looking for Charles, Margaret Hicks and son Harold. > thanks > sue > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > >

Hi Terry, It's me again, Jean. Do you know about the new website still being transcribed. You may be lucky there, or you may have to be patient ,(Hm) like me? and wait till they have done your bit. It's all pertaining to Staffs. I've found some info there thats not anywhere else. It's www.staffordshirebmd. Hope you're lucky. Let me know. Jean. ----- Original Message ----- From: "terrybrooks" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:32 PM Subject: [Pots] Sherlock- Hanley > Hello list, I wonder if some knowledgeable lister would put me out of my misery. I have a real brick wall on which I have exhausted my energies, and wonder if someone could come up with a brainwave. My problem is this. The marriage certificate for my grandfather at Shelton Parish Church Aug 7th 1892 gives his name as Daniel Sherlock aged 22 and his fathers name as Reuben Sherlock. I cannot find any birth registered for a Daniel Sherlock anywhere within 2 years of 1870. However I have the birth certificate of Reuben Sherlock son of Reuben Sherlock.The younger Reuben was born 4th Aug 1869. Having found the Sherlock family including the younger Reuben on the 1881 census I am unable to find either the younger Reuben OR Daniel on the 1891 census. I have found Daniel on the 1901 census but no younger Reuben. I am convinced in my own mind that "Daniel" was in fact the younger Reuben but I just cannot think of anyway that I can prove my suspicians to be correct. Can anyone make any! > suggestions please.TIA. > Terry Brooks. > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire >

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Hello list, I wonder if some knowledgeable lister would put me out of my misery. I have a real brick wall on which I have exhausted my energies, and wonder if someone could come up with a brainwave. My problem is this. The marriage certificate for my grandfather at Shelton Parish Church Aug 7th 1892 gives his name as Daniel Sherlock aged 22 and his fathers name as Reuben Sherlock. I cannot find any birth registered for a Daniel Sherlock anywhere within 2 years of 1870. However I have the birth certificate of Reuben Sherlock son of Reuben Sherlock.The younger Reuben was born 4th Aug 1869. Having found the Sherlock family including the younger Reuben on the 1881 census I am unable to find either the younger Reuben OR Daniel on the 1891 census. I have found Daniel on the 1901 census but no younger Reuben. I am convinced in my own mind that "Daniel" was in fact the younger Reuben but I just cannot think of anyway that I can prove my suspicians to be correct. Can anyone make any! suggestions please.TIA. Terry Brooks.

Thank you Steve. Will certainly widen my range. When I can afford to ask Records for another search. Other than using a map, this southerner has little idea of the geography of Staffordshire, and I am grateful for the pointers. Yours Vicki Turner ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:02 PM Subject: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D Digest V03 #157

Not forgetting the spelling LEESE - if I remember rightly, there was (is?) a Funeral Director of that name at the foot of Dividy Road, at Trent Bridge in Bucknall. Graham -----Original Message----- From: Steve Stutcinskas [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 28 July 2003 21:54 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Pots] Re:Doultons Henry LEIGHS b1809 Endon Staffs. Staffordshire Records cannot find his baptism in Endon or Leek. You should try HORTON, Norton in the Moors, Cheddleton, Bucknull- cum-Bagnall - Whilst he may have first recollections of Endon he may well have been born in any of those parishes - they are only a mile or so from differnt parts of Endon. I would certainly look at those before Leek He was a "China man" and dealer in china and glass with a workshop of some sort employing several people in Guildford. As was his father, John, before him according to Henry's marriage cert. Sometime before 1838 Henry moved from Stafford to Lambeth, and the only connection I could think of between the two places and chinaware is Doultons- All Major Potbanks had offices in London - Wedgwood, Spode etc.. Then, as now, the place to sell to those with Money was the Smoke. All the foreign buyers would be looking around the smoke to see what was In vogue and what was not. Nowts changed I also have noticed that nearly all the LEIGHS' on FreeBMD are recorded Stoke on Trent, the spelling of the name being consistent. Leigh is a very common pottery name and the spelling is also consistent, though in the early 1800s and before dont discount LEE, LEA or LEES, LEAS. Steve ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 18/07/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 18/07/03

Henry LEIGHS b1809 Endon Staffs. Staffordshire Records cannot find his baptism in Endon or Leek. You should try HORTON, Norton in the Moors, Cheddleton, Bucknull- cum-Bagnall - Whilst he may have first recollections of Endon he may well have been born in any of those parishes - they are only a mile or so from differnt parts of Endon. I would certainly look at those before Leek He was a "China man" and dealer in china and glass with a workshop of some sort employing several people in Guildford. As was his father, John, before him according to Henry's marriage cert. Sometime before 1838 Henry moved from Stafford to Lambeth, and the only connection I could think of between the two places and chinaware is Doultons- All Major Potbanks had offices in London - Wedgwood, Spode etc.. Then, as now, the place to sell to those with Money was the Smoke. All the foreign buyers would be looking around the smoke to see what was In vogue and what was not. Nowts changed I also have noticed that nearly all the LEIGHS' on FreeBMD are recorded Stoke on Trent, the spelling of the name being consistent. Leigh is a very common pottery name and the spelling is also consistent, though in the early 1800s and before dont discount LEE, LEA or LEES, LEAS. Steve

Hi list,Many thanks to Steve and Arthur? for the help in locating Tinkersclough. I only wish it was as easy to located my grandad!! Many thanks list. Terry.

Thanks Anne, For locating Dayhills, much obliged. >"Dayhills is a small hamlet near Stone. it is just off the road from Little Stoke to Millwich. In the censuses it is usually found in the Stone Registration district along with Sandon, Millwich, Small Rise, Garshall Green, Salt, Enson etc. - (O.S.SJ95.32)"< Regards Barrie Sharples North Yorkshire

This message has been sent without an attachment. Hello Terry, Have a look at 'Memories of Stoke-on-Trent' Mike Stanton....via 'Google' It appears that yr Tinkersclough was the name of a coalmine in the vicinity of Clough St., Hanley. Regards, Lakhri in the Staffordshire Moorlands. ----- Original Message ----- From: "terrybrooks" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 11:23 PM Subject: [Pots] Hanley Tinkersclough > Hello list, I wonder if anyone could help an ex "Potter" please. > On my grandparents marriage cert their place of residence is given as Tinkersclough. Can anyone advise exactly where this was. TIA. > Terry Brooks. > > ______________________________

Hello, Thank you to all who have replied about Doultons. I will get in touch with the various people suggested. It is a "little" person, albeit a successful businessman, that prompted my request. As listers have probably seen, a couple of days ago I fielded a plea for help with my 2nd great grandfather, Henry LEIGHS b1809 Endon Staffs. Staffordshire Records cannot find his baptism in Endon or Leek. He was a "China man" and dealer in china and glass with a workshop of some sort employing several people in Guildford. As was his father, John, before him according to Henry's marriage cert. Sometime before 1838 Henry moved from Stafford to Lambeth, and the only connection I could think of between the two places and chinaware is Doultons- albeit that they went the other way round, from Lambeth to Burslem (which is not too far away from Endon). In the 1881 census Henry's son has taken over the business in Guildford and also calls himself a "Certified Drawing Master" whatever that was. I also have noticed that nearly all the LEIGHS' on FreeBMD are recorded Stoke on Trent, the spelling of the name being consistent. Any port in a storm, and if anyone else can think of anywhere else I might look to find Henry prior to 1838 and why he moved I would be grateful. Thanks again everyone. Yours Vicki Turner ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 1:00 AM Subject: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D Digest V03 #155

Terry - Do you know where CLOUGH street, Hanley is - Imagine walking down there until you are at the junction with Mount Pleasant. Standing there you are slap bang in the midle of Tinkersclough If you are still not sure then go to http://www.streetmap.co.uk and put CLOUGH STREET as a UK Street and select :- Clough Street, Stoke-On-Trent, ST1 The arrow shows where Tinkersclough was Steve Hello list, I wonder if anyone could help an ex "Potter" please. On my grandparents marriage cert their place of residence is given as Tinkersclough. Can anyone advise exactly where this was. TIA. Terry Brooks. ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire

Hi Vicki, Try Joan Jones, at The Royal Doulton museum Burslem. www.worldcollectorsnet.com/doulton/ or e mail to [email protected] Good luck. Jean. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Toft" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [Pots] Doultons Burslem > Royal Doulton is very familiar to me. My father George CLEWS worked there > as a production manager. It is in Nile Street BurslemHe worked there from > 1924 to 1958. He died at age 51 in 1958. I have copy of the Sentinel > article at the timeof his funeral and it lists many of the people there. The > managing director was J.K.Warrington. I skimmed it for LEIGHS but didn't > find any. What time period are you looking at? > They do have a website and I've looked at it but obviously it's mostly > promotional. I think you'd find it easily with a search engine I don't seem > to have it at my fingertips. > > Anne > [email protected] > http://www3.sympatico.ca/anne.toft/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "historyresearch" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 7:59 AM > Subject: [Pots] Doultons Burslem > > > > hello all, > > > > Can someone tell me where I might look for records relating to Doultons of > Burslem, presuming such things exist in the public domain. I am > particularly interested in those who might have worked for them, or been > related to them. Specifically with the surname LEIGHS. Thanks. > > > > Vicki Turner > > > > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > > > > > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire >

Hello list, I wonder if anyone could help an ex "Potter" please. On my grandparents marriage cert their place of residence is given as Tinkersclough. Can anyone advise exactly where this was. TIA. Terry Brooks.

Do you suspect that the person in question may have be good at something - either a modeller or a painter ?? If so then your best bet is to get in touch with Stoke Archives at Hanley Library and give them his name ... However if he was " a potter" then it is unlikely that any records exist.... Try watching something like "The Antiques Roadshow" - and Listen to either of the Sandons when describing pottery . The conversation goes something like "Oh yes painted by XXXXX, from a model by YYYYY - they never say things like "Fred Smith poured the slip into the cast ! Or Harry Barlow was a the guy wot put it in the sagger and his mate Arthur Foster drew it Ite .... Oh if only they had kept records of the little men - but your man may be famous and if he was he would be documented at the Archives. Steve ps - Claris Cliff - - How many bits of pot do you think she actually painted ? And how many of the Bizarre girls can anyone name ?? Same for Suzy Cooper .......

Hi Listers, I have found a ref. to: William BELL, born abt 1856 in Dayhills, Stafford. Could SKS put me out of my misery, I cannot find this place on any of my maps? TIA Barrie Sharples North Yorkshire, England "A fool sees not the same tree that a wise man sees." William Blake 1757 - 1827 Still searching for: BELL in Stone - Staffordshire, Lincs, & Lancs. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.504 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 24/07/03

Royal Doulton is very familiar to me. My father George CLEWS worked there as a production manager. It is in Nile Street BurslemHe worked there from 1924 to 1958. He died at age 51 in 1958. I have copy of the Sentinel article at the timeof his funeral and it lists many of the people there. The managing director was J.K.Warrington. I skimmed it for LEIGHS but didn't find any. What time period are you looking at? They do have a website and I've looked at it but obviously it's mostly promotional. I think you'd find it easily with a search engine I don't seem to have it at my fingertips. Anne [email protected] http://www3.sympatico.ca/anne.toft/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "historyresearch" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 7:59 AM Subject: [Pots] Doultons Burslem > hello all, > > Can someone tell me where I might look for records relating to Doultons of Burslem, presuming such things exist in the public domain. I am particularly interested in those who might have worked for them, or been related to them. Specifically with the surname LEIGHS. Thanks. > > Vicki Turner > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > >

Hi Listers, This is my first posting to this list - please be gentle with me (:-) I have just discovered a Staffs. link to my maternal BELL family: Joseph BELL b. abt 1828, Trusthorpe, Lincs Spouse - Myra b. abt 1832, Hixon Children: William b. abt 1856, Dayhills Alfred b. abt 1862, Stone Ruben b. abt 1867, Stone Alice b. abt 1870, Stone George b. abt 1872, Stone. Have more info on the links to Burnley, Lancs. Any interest out there? Regards Barrie Sharples North Yorkshire, England "A fool sees not the same tree that a wise man sees." William Blake 1757 - 1827 Still searching for: SHARPLES,SEDDON,ROMSDALE,KAY,HODGKINSON, BELL - Lancs. TEMPEST Burnley - plus Craven Dales -Yorks. Now! - BELL in Lincoln & Staffordshire

hello all, Can someone tell me where I might look for records relating to Doultons of Burslem, presuming such things exist in the public domain. I am particularly interested in those who might have worked for them, or been related to them. Specifically with the surname LEIGHS. Thanks. Vicki Turner