Hi Tony, It doesn't look like the same line, my Jane's parents were Ralph and Sarah (Perry). She had siblings John, Eliza, Catherine, Ann, Ralph & Sarah, all born between 1833 and 1844. Ralph was shown as a Potter in 1851, in Watergate Street, Tunstall. He was a Beerseller in the 1851 Staffs Gazetteer, still in Watergate Street. In 1881 he was a widower living with son John & his wife Sarah, having a grocers shop and beerhouse at 37 marsh street Hanley. Regards, Keith in N.Z.

In a message dated 30/08/2003 12:20:35 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Hello. > > Is anyone working on the Davenports, master potters of Burslem? > > I have part of their tree, from books and Internet trees, and believe they > originated > in Leek. > > According to various trees I have found on the Internet, my Goodfellows tie > into a > Davenport line from the Leek area, and I wondered if there was any > connection there. > > Best regards > > Eileen Hi Eileen, I seem to recall there was an extensive piece on the Leek Davenports in (I think), the book 'The Ancient Parish of Leek'. A copy of which resides on the shelves in Hanley Record Office. Regards Earl.

At 14:23 30/08/03 +1200, you wrote: >It doesn't look like the same line, my Jane's parents were Ralph and Sarah (Perry). She had siblings John, Eliza, Catherine, Ann, Ralph & Sarah, all born between 1833 and 1844. > Hi Keith, Have you come across any more PERRYs - I'm looking for Ann PERRY who married Thomas STUBBS in 1842. It doesn't look like that family. BW Andy. Ripley, Derbys. Also researching BEBBINGTON, CATEN, JENKS, MALPASS, OLIVER in the Potteries.

HI list, Can anyone tell me why two of MOORLEY's were named Harry Orme MOORLEY. I am aware of the Orme boys school but why should anyone want to be named after a school? Unless once upon a time there was a Mrs ORME somewhere. Mike Hill Waterlooville A modern village.

Elieen did you find any of our family yet? Eileen Hallam wrote: > Hello. > > Is anyone working on the Davenports, master potters of Burslem? > > I have part of their tree, from books and Internet trees, and believe they originated > in Leek. > > According to various trees I have found on the Internet, my Goodfellows tie into a > Davenport line from the Leek area, and I wondered if there was any connection there. > > Best regards > > Eileen > > Interests: > BRUNT - Stoke-on-Trent, Staffs > BURTON - Fenton, Staffs > CHURNSIDE(S) - Lancs > DYDE - Staffs > EKIN - Longton, Staffs & Salop > GOODFELLOW - N Staffs & Greater Manchester > HALLAM - Stoke-on-Trent, Staffs > HASSALL - Salop > HOLDEN - Greater Manchester > HUGHES - Longton, Staffs > JONES - Longton, Staffs & Tong, Salop > MILLWARD - Eccleshall, Staffs > POINTON - Tunstall & Chesterton > PORRITT - Cheshire & Lancs > SCARROTT - Longton & Stafford, Staffs > VENABLES - Norbury, Salop > WARRILOW - Stoke-on-Trent, Staffs > WEDGE - Salop & Staffs > Longton Pottery manufacturers > Home Page http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/a/l/Eileen-Hallam/ > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire

OK, thanks Keith. Good luck with your search, Tony -----Original Message----- From: Keith Hackney [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 30 August 2003 03:24 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Pots] JOBBURN>WITHNULL>LEESE> Hi Tony, It doesn't look like the same line, my Jane's parents were Ralph and Sarah (Perry). She had siblings John, Eliza, Catherine, Ann, Ralph & Sarah, all born between 1833 and 1844. Ralph was shown as a Potter in 1851, in Watergate Street, Tunstall. He was a Beerseller in the 1851 Staffs Gazetteer, still in Watergate Street. In 1881 he was a widower living with son John & his wife Sarah, having a grocers shop and beerhouse at 37 marsh street Hanley. Regards, Keith in N.Z. ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire

Hello. Is anyone working on the Davenports, master potters of Burslem? I have part of their tree, from books and Internet trees, and believe they originated in Leek. According to various trees I have found on the Internet, my Goodfellows tie into a Davenport line from the Leek area, and I wondered if there was any connection there. Best regards Eileen Interests: BRUNT - Stoke-on-Trent, Staffs BURTON - Fenton, Staffs CHURNSIDE(S) - Lancs DYDE - Staffs EKIN - Longton, Staffs & Salop GOODFELLOW - N Staffs & Greater Manchester HALLAM - Stoke-on-Trent, Staffs HASSALL - Salop HOLDEN - Greater Manchester HUGHES - Longton, Staffs JONES - Longton, Staffs & Tong, Salop MILLWARD - Eccleshall, Staffs POINTON - Tunstall & Chesterton PORRITT - Cheshire & Lancs SCARROTT - Longton & Stafford, Staffs VENABLES - Norbury, Salop WARRILOW - Stoke-on-Trent, Staffs WEDGE - Salop & Staffs Longton Pottery manufacturers Home Page http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/a/l/Eileen-Hallam/

In a message dated 29/08/2003 00:30:21 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Earl - there are 13 folios with Whitehursats on !! > > Steve > Thanks Steve. Regards Earl.

Earl - there are 13 folios with Whitehursats on !! Steve -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: 28 August 2003 21:18 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Pots] Biddulph Census In a message dated 28/08/2003 21:07:09 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Earl - It is on a Cheshire page (Congleton) > > Starts At Piece HO 107 / 2167 folio 562 and goes on to 640 > It is on CD Volume 8 of the 1851 of Cheshire (Congleton Registration > District) > > > Who are you after ? > > Steve Thanks Steve. Am after Whitehursts in the area. Was interested in Congleton anyway so will probably get the CD. Regards Earl. ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/2003

Earl - It is on a Cheshire page (Congleton) Starts At Piece HO 107 / 2167 folio 562 and goes on to 640 It is on CD Volume 8 of the 1851 of Cheshire (Congleton Registration District) Who are you after ? Steve -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: 28 August 2003 17:26 To: [email protected] Subject: [Pots] Biddulph Census Does anyone know the HO number for the 1851 Biddulph census and which CD Set the parish appears on? Regards Earl. ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/2003

Hi Earl, welcome back. I wondered where you'd gone. Regards de Dave

Hello Jack, Thank you for sending that. As yet I can't tell if it is the same family, but the age is right. In 1881 the family were living in Penkhull Terrace but Joseph is not there. His wife, Betsy is Head. On the 1891 census Joseph is there but is a milk seller. It is very likely he could have changed jobs. I suppose I will have to try and track them through other census. I am very grateful to you for looking this up. Jeanne _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile

In a message dated 28/08/2003 21:07:09 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Earl - It is on a Cheshire page (Congleton) > > Starts At Piece HO 107 / 2167 folio 562 and goes on to 640 > It is on CD Volume 8 of the 1851 of Cheshire (Congleton Registration > District) > > > Who are you after ? > > Steve Thanks Steve. Am after Whitehursts in the area. Was interested in Congleton anyway so will probably get the CD. Regards Earl.

Back after a break. Just on the Potts list at the moment, not resubbed to the Staffs list yet. A few surname interests (anywhere in the Potteries) DEGG CYPLES DERRICOTT COCKERSOLE Regards Earl.

Does anyone know the HO number for the 1851 Biddulph census and which CD Set the parish appears on? Regards Earl.

Just received this from another list so am passing it on. Jeanne -----Original Message----- From: Ian Hartas [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [YKS] New Version of UK BMD web site. Dear all, A new version of the UK BMD web site went on the air tonight. It is a complete re-write and offers links to over 150 web sites that offer on-line information for UK births, marriages and deaths. http://www.UKBMD.org.uk More sites will be added as and when I find out about them. Let me know of any missing ones. The new site is navigated by a menu on its left side. For example, if all you want is the links to the local BMD sites, such as Cheshire BMD, then simply press the 'Local BMD' button. Note that the Isle-of-Wight are the latest to offer BMD indexes on-line. (Under Hampshire, if you're searching by county) If you want information specific to a county (or country), select one from the drop-down list and then press the 'County' button. Other buttons should be self-explanatory. I only subscribe to CHS, YKS and GENBRIT, so please cross post this note to as many genealogy lists as you can, as most counties have entries on the new site. Hope you find it useful ! -- regards, Ian Hartas, [email protected] ---------------------------------------- There are 10 types of people, those that understand binary and those that don't. ---------------------------------------- --- _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

Hello Jeanne In the 1841 census, HO107 piece 991 part 11 Enumeration District 7, Penkhull, Garden Street, there is a Joseph Leese, age 12, Brickmaker, born in Staffordshire. He is living (probably) with his (perhaps) widowed mother Susannah age 30 to 34, sister Mary Ann age 8, and Charles age 4, all born in Staffordshire. There is no adult male with the family. The occupation of mother Susannah is "F.S.", that is "female servant." I say "probably" and "perhaps" because the 1841 census does not give relationships or marital status, but these can often be surmised from the entries. Also, the age for those over 15 is given only to the nearest 5 years below the actual age. The age for those under 15 is supposed to be given exactly in years. Can you tell if this is your family? ........ Jack Leigh At 02:00 PM 08/27/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Hi Keith & Jane >My Mother-in-law was a Leese. Her father was Charles Joseph Leese. We have only got back as far as her grandfather so far. >Joseph Leese born around 1829. On the 1881 & 1891 census he and his family were living in Penkhull > >Jeanne ========================================================================= 5030 Meadfeild Road, West Vancouver, BC, Canada V7W 3G2 (604) 926-4422

Hi List, My cousin has in her posession an embroidered Sampler, given to her by our grandmother some years ago. It was said to have been given to our grandmother by her grandmother. The inscription on the sampler is: "Maryan Bywater Age 7 years, 1838". We have been unable to trace Maryan, and wonder whether anyone can help?? TIA Keith in N.Z.

Hi Jane, I have a Leese line in my tree. Jane Leese b 20 Sept 1834 in Chell, m Joseph Nixon 22 Jan 1860. Their dtr Emma Nixon Lees(e) married my g grandfather Charles Hackney 3 Aug 1879 in Tunstall. I have more if you can connect. Regards, Keith in N.Z.

Hi Keith & Jane My Mother-in-law was a Leese. Her father was Charles Joseph Leese. We have only got back as far as her grandfather so far. Joseph Leese born around 1829. On the 1881 & 1891 census he and his family were living in Penkhull I had a look for Maryan Bywater on Vital Records, but no luck. The only similar name born 1831 is this one: BYWATERS, Mary Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 28 Oct 1831 Recorded in: Great Paxton, Huntingdonshire, England Father: William BYWATERS Mother: Charlotte Source: FHL Film 1040745 Dates: 1813 - 1877 Jeanne