Hallo Mr. Withinshaw?, I have recently found out that when my ancestor Ann Merry died her husband William Davis remarried a lady called Emily Ada Withinshaw,approximately in 1893.They lived in Longton,Staffs.Around 1906/07 they had a fruit and veg.business in Stafford. Any connection? Regards Linda Westmaas(Holland) ----- Original Message ----- From: "withinshaw" <redgwit@chariot.net.au> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 3:14 AM Subject: [Pots] new lister and interests > BMD lists a number of WITHINSHAW in Wolstanton including my GGrFather > Edward > and hie family.He married a Sarah SHEEN from across the border in > Cheshire. > Has anyone found an odd Withinshaw in their tree. I am sure that some must > be related but I have not found any connections. Also Thomas married a > Mary > Alice MEAKIN about 1890. Has anyone an interest in Meakin. > Any help appreciated as I have yet to find anyone with a declared interest > in Withinshaw Redg Withininshaw > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.4 - Release Date: 1/02/2005 > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > >

Dear Hilary, I'm not sure anymore if you were the original person enquiring over the Bloor family.Just had a quick look on my tree and i found the following,any connection? Hannah Bloore married James Merry in 1875,Edensor,St.Paul,S-O-T. I think she was either an unmarried mother or a widow as she has a daughter called Matilda Bloore born 1875. Have a nice day. Linda Westmaas. ----- Original Message ----- From: "hilary jackson" <hj014b0552@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [Pots] SEARCHING FOR BLOOR OR JACKSON FAMILY > Hi > > Thank you, Heather for your reply and suggestion. I don't have much > information at all on the Bloor family except for the wedding certificate. > I will do as you suggest contact the Bloor Society. If I find we are > connected in any way, I will recontact you. > > I do not seem to have much luck with the Census queries. Perhaps they are > hard to read. I know the 1861 Census is hard work, especially with no > index. > > Hilary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <FRENCHFrenchies@aol.com> > To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 1:35 AM > Subject: Re: [Pots] SEARCHING FOR BLOOR OR JACKSON FAMILY > > >> Hi, my husbands mother was a Bloor, but I don't think they were your >> family >> tree, My husbands great, great grandfather was a James Edward Bloor, >> married to >> Ann Brunt, they lived in Stoke and then moved up to work at the Leeds >> Pottery, their son, also James Edward joined the Kings Royal Rifles and >> was sent to >> Canada, he married a red Indian girl and stayed there. They moved up to >> Leeds >> in the early 1830's and young James Edward went to Canada about 1860. >> Have you >> contacted the Bloor Society? They have a lot of info that might help you, >> hope you get lots of replies, Heather French >> > > > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > >

BMD lists a number of WITHINSHAW in Wolstanton including my GGrFather Edward and hie family.He married a Sarah SHEEN from across the border in Cheshire. Has anyone found an odd Withinshaw in their tree. I am sure that some must be related but I have not found any connections. Also Thomas married a Mary Alice MEAKIN about 1890. Has anyone an interest in Meakin. Any help appreciated as I have yet to find anyone with a declared interest in Withinshaw Redg Withininshaw -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.4 - Release Date: 1/02/2005

Hello Linda No connection but I found the marriage here....... http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl Emily Ada Withinshaw married William Davis September 1/4 1895 Cheadle 6B 495 HTH Cameron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda en Henk" <yrrem1@quicknet.nl> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [Pots] new lister and interests > Hallo Mr. Withinshaw?, > I have recently found out that when my ancestor Ann Merry died her husband > William Davis remarried a lady called Emily Ada Withinshaw,approximately in > 1893.They lived in Longton,Staffs.Around 1906/07 they had a fruit and > veg.business in Stafford. > Any connection? > Regards > Linda Westmaas(Holland) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "withinshaw" <redgwit@chariot.net.au> > To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 3:14 AM > Subject: [Pots] new lister and interests > > > > BMD lists a number of WITHINSHAW in Wolstanton including my GGrFather > > Edward > > and hie family.He married a Sarah SHEEN from across the border in > > Cheshire. > > Has anyone found an odd Withinshaw in their tree. I am sure that some must > > be related but I have not found any connections. Also Thomas married a > > Mary > > Alice MEAKIN about 1890. Has anyone an interest in Meakin. > > Any help appreciated as I have yet to find anyone with a declared interest > > in Withinshaw Redg Withininshaw > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.4 - Release Date: 1/02/2005 > > > > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.4 - Release Date: 01/02/2005 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.4 - Release Date: 01/02/2005

Last November I was poking around on the IGI list and found a christening for my GreatGrandmother Esther Wase. It was fpr 8 Nov 1863 ad Wellingston,Stafford and is from Batch C167341 Source 1471183. Monday I was showing someone the IGI and attempted to find the same listing as before. However, this time I got a citation for 28 Mar 1869 Hope by Stoke Upon Trent, Stafford. Batch C166401 Source 1470999 Call No. IT 12-19 Is it possible that Esther was christened twice. Both records list the same parents, so I know they're both fo my Esther. Can anyone explain this discrepancy?

> Last November I was poking around on the IGI list and found a > christening for my GreatGrandmother Esther Wase. It was fpr 8 Nov 1863 > ad Wellingston,Stafford and is from Batch C167341 Source 1471183. > > Monday I was showing someone the IGI and attempted to find the same > listing as before. However, this time I got a citation for 28 Mar 1869 > Hope by Stoke Upon Trent, Stafford. Batch C166401 Source 1470999 > Call No. IT 12-19 > > Is it possible that Esther was christened twice. Both records list the > same parents, so I know they're both fo my Esther. Can anyone explain > this discrepancy? Richard, I think that the only way you may be able to solve this is to have a look at the actual christening registers. If you can go to a Family History Centre, the Source numbers are the actual filmnumbers you would have to order - they are images of the christening registers, 1471183 contains Baptisms 1848-1900 and Marriages 1854 - 1900 for what I read to be St. Luke's in the chapelry of Wellington. 1470999 contains Baptisms 1865-1901, Marriages 1884-1904 and Burials 1878 - 1902 for the Parish Church of Hednesford (items 1 - 11), Baptisms 1848-1903 and Marriages 1850 - 1909 for the Parish Church of Hope (items 12 - 19). It could be as simple as the child being written into 1869 in the christening register because the family had moved. I would certainly try to find a burial or death for an Esther Wase between 1863 and 1869 as there is the possibility that the first one died. There also is a real possibility that Esther was an important family name, and two children were given that name - growing up they possibly had different nicknames. Rare, but it did happen. (If that is the case, marriage certificates for both girls would hopefully give their ages, and determine which one married what man). In any case, as always, you would definitely have to check the originals and not rely on the IGI. Greetings from Beautiful British Columbia another Esther ;-)

Hi Thank you, Heather for your reply and suggestion. I don't have much information at all on the Bloor family except for the wedding certificate. I will do as you suggest contact the Bloor Society. If I find we are connected in any way, I will recontact you. I do not seem to have much luck with the Census queries. Perhaps they are hard to read. I know the 1861 Census is hard work, especially with no index. Hilary ----- Original Message ----- From: <FRENCHFrenchies@aol.com> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 1:35 AM Subject: Re: [Pots] SEARCHING FOR BLOOR OR JACKSON FAMILY > Hi, my husbands mother was a Bloor, but I don't think they were your > family > tree, My husbands great, great grandfather was a James Edward Bloor, > married to > Ann Brunt, they lived in Stoke and then moved up to work at the Leeds > Pottery, their son, also James Edward joined the Kings Royal Rifles and > was sent to > Canada, he married a red Indian girl and stayed there. They moved up to > Leeds > in the early 1830's and young James Edward went to Canada about 1860. Have > you > contacted the Bloor Society? They have a lot of info that might help you, > hope you get lots of replies, Heather French >

I am researching the following names - BANKS : Stretton (Cheshire), Manchester (Lancs) BRADBURY : Lymm (Cheshire) BROWNBILL : St Helens (Lancs) CALLAGHAN : St Helens (Lancs), Ireland DANIELS : Bowdon (Cheshire) GABRIEL : St Helens (Lancs), Liverpool (Lancs), Dublin (Ireland) GARDNER : Dublin (Ireland) GRATWICH : Barlaston (Staffs) HIGHAM : Lymm (Cheshire), Leigh (Lancs) JOHNSON : Over Peover (Cheshire) JOHNSON : Barlaston (Staffs) JOHNS(T)ON : Wallasey (Cheshire), Birkenhead (Cheshire), Hull (East Riding), North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland), Ryton (Co. Durham) JONES : Whitchurch (Shrops) LEIGH : Lymm (Cheshire) MILLER : Lymm (Cheshire), Grappenhall (Cheshire) MOSTON/MOSSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Over Peover (Cheshire), Marthall (Cheshire) MYCOCK : Barlaston (Staffs) NORBURY : Liverpool (Lancs) PERCIVAL : Lymm (Cheshire), Antrobus (Cheshire) RICHARDSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Prescot (Lancs) TABERN : St Helens (Lancs) THOMPSON : North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland) WILLIAMSON : Cheshire WINSTANLEY : Lymm (Cheshire) WOOTTON : Barlaston (Staffs), Moddershall (Staffs), Stone (Staffs) I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests. Thanks Tim

I would be very grateful if anyone can provide me with any information, 1841 or 1851 Census details, image or Census index to help me progress further with researching the BLOOR or JACKSON families. And if anyone on the list has a connection - that would be a real bonus. I have a wedding certificate which tells me that on 23 September 1850, at Hanley Chapel, John JACKSON married Ann BLOOR. John was a Brickmaker and was living at Well Street at the time of marriage and his father was Hamlet JACKSON, a Brick maker. Ann BLOOR was living at Bucknall New Road and her father was Hamlet BLOOR, a Potter. They were both of "full age". Witnesses were John and Mary Bath. Their son John Jackson was born on 23 August 1860 when they were living at 99 Hotlane, Burslem. John Jackson (junior) is the Grandfather of my husband, Barry Jackson. Thanking you in anticipation and thank you also for reading this request. Hilary Jackson from Kilnhurst, Rotherham, South Yorkshire http://www.hilarymaryjackson.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Jackson.htm Also researching BARROWCLIFFE (Ilkeston-Doncaster); BRAITHWAITE (Cundall-Hartwith-Bradfield-Hunshelf-West Melton); BLOOR (Hanley & Burslem); SARAH CHARLESWORTH (Bradfield); COPLEY (Ambleside); CUPIT (Alfreton & Kirkby in Ashfield, to Darnall & West Melton); DAVIES (Shipley, Derbyshire); DAWSON (Kirton, Lincs); DUTTON (Ickleston & Doncaster); GASH (Kirton, Lincs to S Yorks to Newark & Canada); GRAVES (Kirton); HALLAM (Ilkeston); HICKLING (Hugglescote to Rawmarsh); HORNSEY (Moortown, Lincs to Ickleston, to Doncaster) JACKSON (Burslem to Cudworth to Doncaster); LEES (Burslem); MCPHADEN (Sheffield to West Melton); MICKLETHWAITE (Cumberworth to Whitwell to Onesacre, and Hunshelf - Yorkshire); MOON (Mapperley to Langley to Ilkeston); NETTLETON (Hoyland in Barnsley), PRICE (Tunstall & Burslem), SHAW (Alfreton), SKEVINGTON (Kirkby in Ashfield), TOMLINSON (Kirton, Lincs); VAUGHAN (Sheffield to Thorpe Hesley to Wath); WATSON (Thorpe Hesley); AND WILKINSON (Moortown, Lincs) .... phew...

What a super site this is. People are so helpful, again and again. Thank you so much to Chris, Diana and Sandra. That information will now lead me in the correct direction. My Grandmother and her family only lived a stones throw away from St. Lukes.(In Erskine Street if you know the area.) Funny though, they all were christened when they were older, and in pairs! Two were christened aged 20 and 18,in 1893, then two more aged 8 and 6 years old in 1898. According to the info just received, the latter two children could have been among the last ones to have been christened there. Thanks again, Regards Jean.

St Lukes is (was?) in Cromartie Street, Dresden, a mission church to the main Dresden parish (the Church of the Resurrection). Hanley and Stafford record offices have baptisms from 1855-1898, according to the Archive Services Guide to sources. It also says there were no marriages there and no burial ground. From what I remember, the registers of both churches were filmed by the LDS Church (hence their inclusion in the IGI, of course) on the same film. Diana Bouglas ----- Original Message ----- From: "j.ankers1" <j.ankers1@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 5:25 PM Subject: St. Lukes, Dresden. > Hi Listers, > Whilst trying to find my Grandmother's birth entry, the info from the IGI > on the Family search site, gives her christening and her siblings all as > having taken place at St. Lukes, Dresden, Stoke on Trent. Does anyone know > of this Church? I have never heard of it. Where was it sited? Any ideas? > TIA. Jean. >

Hi, my husbands mother was a Bloor, but I don't think they were your family tree, My husbands great, great grandfather was a James Edward Bloor, married to Ann Brunt, they lived in Stoke and then moved up to work at the Leeds Pottery, their son, also James Edward joined the Kings Royal Rifles and was sent to Canada, he married a red Indian girl and stayed there. They moved up to Leeds in the early 1830's and young James Edward went to Canada about 1860. Have you contacted the Bloor Society? They have a lot of info that might help you, hope you get lots of replies, Heather French

Hi Listers, Whilst trying to find my Grandmother's birth entry, the info from the IGI on the Family search site, gives her christening and her siblings all as having taken place at St. Lukes, Dresden, Stoke on Trent. Does anyone know of this Church? I have never heard of it. Where was it sited? Any ideas? TIA. Jean.

Hi Linda, I have found some of your family on various census and will send the images off list. Ann Merry was living with her father John Ratcliff in 1871 but no George Henry. Jeanne

Dear All, Have been reading all messages for ages but no answers to my questions yet.So i thought i'd write a new list of interests for any new readers.My only sources have come from Civil Reg.1901 census, BMD and 1881 census and family photos and documents..Any info.welcome.Getting confused as can't find whole familys on the named census lists. Family Barnish 1.James Thomas Barnish married Sarah Davies 1864 Wolstanton. 2.John Joseph Barnish married Minnie Stevenson 1890 S-O-T. 3.Joseph Barnish married Nellie Edith McCarthy 1922? Family Merry 1.Samuel Merry born 1795 Nuneaton?married Mary Bunce?had children George Henry born 1833,James and John in S-O-T 2.George Henry born Longton married Ann Ratcliff?children William 1866,Longton,James John and Stephen - Stone/Longton? 3.William Merry married Amelia Ault 1885 S-O-T.children William Edmund 1886 and Amelia. 4.William Edmund married Lily?children Francis William,marjorie,Nancy and Desmond Royston lived in Stone 1950's Thanks Linda Westmaas.

I am looking for anyone who is researching Austins in Staffordshire. I am unsure if Mary Elizabeth (Elizabeth Mary) and brother who were born in Devon, are actually members of the Staffordshire Austin family or whether the were taken in by Staffordshire Austins. etween the birth of Elizabeth and Arthur who were born in Devon, there is a gap when a sister was born in Staffordshire. Everyone else in the family is from Shelton/Hanley in Staffs. Sorry if I haven't explained too well! Many thanks. -----Original Message----- From: GENEALOGYWAKELAM@aol.com [mailto:GENEALOGYWAKELAM@aol.com] Sent: 24 January 2005 19:05 To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Pots] Austin What is it you are looking for? Jennifer Devon UK ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire

I am researching Mary Elizabeth Austin (or Elizabeth Mary) who was born in Devon but brought up in Shelton/Hanley in the Potteries, born approx. 1859. In the 1871 census she is living in Staffs (age 12). Her father is given as Sampson Austin, mother is Eliza Austin. She has one brother also born in Devon (age 7 in 1871 census). She also has two sisters - in the 1871 census they are age 9 and 4, both born in Staffordshire, which gives the impression the family moved between Devon and Staffordshire on more than one occasion. Many thanks. Jackie J

What is it you are looking for? Jennifer Devon UK

Hi Jean, and Helen Yes those are the ones on F306, I've just found them on my discs!! Maryan would have been c20 in 1851, and consequently may have been married, and 55 when my grandmother was born, so of the right age to be her grandmother. I have found 6 Maryans in 1881, all married and the right age, just got to sort them out yet! That doesn't include other spellings of Maryan!! Many thanks to you both Keith

Keith One day this will be solved, Just a few ideas. :-) need to locate your Great Grandmother, in 1841 Census , or similar possibly she was the one to whom Mary Ann endowed the Sampler. Perhaps she was Maryann's Godmother - ?? What was her maiden name . Have checked the Index for 1851 there is a Bywater in Piece 2004 - Folio 306 , but unfortunately I do not have it. 2004 is Stoke on Trent. There are other BYWATER listed in Index but not in that Area. Happy Hunting Helen -----Original Message----- From: Keith Hackney [mailto:keith.hackney@xtra.co.nz] Sent: Sunday, 23 January 2005 7:04 a.m. To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Fw: [Pots] Researching - Bywater Hi List, My cousin has in her posession an embroidered Sampler, given to her by our grandmother some years ago. It was said to have been given to our grandmother by her grandmother. The inscription on the sampler is: "Maryan Bywater Age 7 years, 1838". We have been unable to trace Maryan, and wonder whether anyone can help?? Our grandmother lived all her life, apart from later years, in Hanley. The problem is that I don't really know who Maryan was. I know who my grandmothers maternal grandmother was, certainly not a Bywater. I don't know who my grandmother's, nor her siblings, father was, as he was not shown on their bcs., so that makes it harder. TIA Keith, in warm & sunny N.Z. ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire