My GGrandfather Richard BILLINGTON was born in Dumfries around 1818, the son of Richard and Mary. His parents owned a crockery shop, and I think must have originated in the Potteries. Richard married Mary FORRESTER from Wetley/Bucknall in Stoke in 1845.He then moved to Spitalfields where he was tailor to the Guards, later returning to Etruria.All their children were given the second name Forrester. He died in Manchester at his daughter Eliza Ann (m.) HOLT's home.There were two other daughters Mary Jane (m.) SLATER and Helen (?m.?)BILLINGTON who stayed in the Potteries. There were three sons Alexander, Donald, and Richard, my grandfather who had a business selling and teaching musical instruments in Shelton New Road close to the Victoria St crossroads. I would like to know more of the family of Alexander(m. BRADLEY) and Donald (m.CARNALL) who both had numerous offspring. I am the sole survivor of Richard's four children, Richard, who carried on his father's music business, Fanny, a headmistress, Rose White who died young, and my mother Polly who became headmistress at Bucknall until she married Frank RUSHTON of Silverdale and moved to London. Jim

ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > MIME-Version: > 1.0 > Content-type: > text/plain > Content-transfer-encoding: > 7BIT > > >ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 33 > >Today's Topics: > #1 1901 Census Lookup [Richard Stout <rlstout@optonline.n] > #2 RE: [Pots] 1901 Census Lookup ["Helen Verrall" <hverrall@ihug.co.] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D, send a message to > > ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >To contact the ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-D list administrator, send mail to >ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-admin@rootsweb.com. > >______________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > 1901 Census Lookup > From: > Richard Stout <rlstout@optonline.net> > Date: > Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:11:32 -0500 > To: > ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com > > To: > ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: > <421BBC24.5020402@optonline.net> > Content-type: > text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > Content-transfer-encoding: > 7BIT > X-Message: > #1 > > > Can SKS please look for Thomas Liversage and his daughter Margaret on > the 1901 Census for Hanley, Stoke-on-Trent. > > > Thank you, > Dick Stout > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > RE: [Pots] 1901 Census Lookup > From: > "Helen Verrall" <hverrall@ihug.co.nz> > Date: > Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:34:09 +1300 > To: > ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com > > To: > ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: > <005801c51937$02d004d0$c1e6adcb@futxphe> > Content-type: > text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-transfer-encoding: > 7BIT > X-Message: > #2 > > >Richard > >No Margaret but there is a Thomas LIVERSAGE aged 26 with wife Alice in >Burslem. >But that is all, how old do you estimate Margaret would be ? > >Helen >New Zealand > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Richard Stout [mailto:rlstout@optonline.net] >Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 2005 12:12 p.m. >To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Pots] 1901 Census Lookup > >Can SKS please look for Thomas Liversage and his daughter Margaret on >the 1901 Census for Hanley, Stoke-on-Trent. > > >Thank you, >Dick Stout > > >==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== >The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > > Helen, Thanks for your help. I think I've got the correct one. I really appreciate everyone who's responded to my post. It's great to meet so many kind and helpful people. Sincerely, Dick Stout Trenton,NJ USA

Richard No Margaret but there is a Thomas LIVERSAGE aged 26 with wife Alice in Burslem. But that is all, how old do you estimate Margaret would be ? Helen New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: Richard Stout [mailto:rlstout@optonline.net] Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 2005 12:12 p.m. To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Pots] 1901 Census Lookup Can SKS please look for Thomas Liversage and his daughter Margaret on the 1901 Census for Hanley, Stoke-on-Trent. Thank you, Dick Stout ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire

Can SKS please look for Thomas Liversage and his daughter Margaret on the 1901 Census for Hanley, Stoke-on-Trent. Thank you, Dick Stout

What a fantastic story. I wish my FH was half as interesting! Regards Glen Riley, nr. Canberra, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Wilkinson" <eileen_and_mike@madasafish.com> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:05 AM Subject: [Pots] Missing Grandmother (DAWSON, CATCHPOLE, FINCH, NEWBY) > Hi Listers > This is a shot in the dark by me in trying to trace my maternal > Grandmother. I just hope that you have the patience to read it! > > My maternal grandparents were Frederick DAWSON (1884-1962) and May > Elizabeth CATCHPOLE (1886-?). Both were born in Norwich, Norfolk and were > married there in 1905. Between that year and 1915 they had 4 daughters and > 2 sons, one of whom died in infancy in 1913. > > During WW1 Frederick served in the Royal Engineers on the Western Front. > About 1917/18, as Norwich army barracks were full to capacity, soldiers > were billeted out in local homes. I assume that some were billeted in the > street where the DAWSON family lived, as during this period there was a > shooting incident in the family home between 2 soldiers over May > Elizabeth. This came to the attention of the military and Frederick was > sent home on leave from France to resolve the matter. As May Elizabeth > was pregnant by one of the soldiers, Frederick threw her out, and she > left, leaving behind all the children, never to see them again. > > May Elizabeth DAWSON was last seen boarding a train from Norwich bound for > Doncaster to join the soldier, it is assumed, by whom she was pregnant. > Whether she gave birth to the child is not known. According my cousin > (daughter of my eldest aunt) the soldier my Grandmother left with had a > surname which was that of a bird, possibly FINCH. I'm not certain of this > surname and as there were 84 surnames that were names of birds in the 1891 > Census, I'm hedging my bets that it could be the right name <VBG>. > > The only time that May Elizabeth had further contact with either family > was about 1921, when she wrote to Frederick from the Midlands appealing to > be allowed to return to the family home as she was desperately missing her > 5 children. Her request was rejected and that was the last time any > member of both families (DAWSON'S or CATCHPOLE'S) heard or saw of her. > > There is, however, a twist to this tale! Frederick's trade was as a > church organ builder and repairer and several years ago, I made the > acquaintance of a local man, Neville NEWBY, who had been one of > Frederick's apprentices. > > In the early part of 1998, Neville received a letter from a person asking > if he had known Frederick DAWSON, his family or descendants. > Significantly, this letter was sent from the Midlands. Neville replied by > letter, stating that he had known Frederick, and only knew one descendant, > that being me, but couldn't remember my name. > > It was several moths after Neville had received the letter that I met > Neville again in Norwich. He told me of the letter, and when I asked if > he had kept it , he said that he would try to find it. Unfortunately, he > had not kept it, and also, could not remember who had sent it or the > address, other than it was from the Midlands. > > Should the person from the Midlands, who wrote to Neville NEWBY about > Frederick DAWSON, read this message would they please contact me? Are > they a descendant of May Elizabeth DAWSON or FINCH? (nee CATCHPOLE)? Or, > perhaps some Lister may have heard of this tale from the lips of May > Elizabeth or her descendant(s) and can tell me what happened to her. Both > the DAWSON and CATCHPOLE families' descendants would dearly like to know. > It would be marvellous to have a satisfactory ending to such a tragic > tale. > > If any Lister would like a photo of May Elizabeth DAWSON taken about > 1916/17, in case they think they may recognise her, please let me know and > I'll e-mail them a copy. > > I'm keeping my fingers crossed! > > Mike Wilkinson > Newton Flotman > Norfolk > > > > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire > >

Sorry can't help you on this one, but fascinating story - try writing the book!!. If you do get the right reply please post a message to let us all know!! Jackie Jones Cheshire -----Original Message----- From: Mike Wilkinson [mailto:eileen_and_mike@madasafish.com] Sent: 21 February 2005 20:06 To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Pots] Missing Grandmother (DAWSON, CATCHPOLE, FINCH, NEWBY) Hi Listers This is a shot in the dark by me in trying to trace my maternal Grandmother. I just hope that you have the patience to read it! My maternal grandparents were Frederick DAWSON (1884-1962) and May Elizabeth CATCHPOLE (1886-?). Both were born in Norwich, Norfolk and were married there in 1905. Between that year and 1915 they had 4 daughters and 2 sons, one of whom died in infancy in 1913. During WW1 Frederick served in the Royal Engineers on the Western Front. About 1917/18, as Norwich army barracks were full to capacity, soldiers were billeted out in local homes. I assume that some were billeted in the street where the DAWSON family lived, as during this period there was a shooting incident in the family home between 2 soldiers over May Elizabeth. This came to the attention of the military and Frederick was sent home on leave from France to resolve the matter. As May Elizabeth was pregnant by one of the soldiers, Frederick threw her out, and she left, leaving behind all the children, never to see them again. May Elizabeth DAWSON was last seen boarding a train from Norwich bound for Doncaster to join the soldier, it is assumed, by whom she was pregnant. Whether she gave birth to the child is not known. According my cousin (daughter of my eldest aunt) the soldier my Grandmother left with had a surname which was that of a bird, possibly FINCH. I'm not certain of this surname and as there were 84 surnames that were names of birds in the 1891 Census, I'm hedging my bets that it could be the right name <VBG>. The only time that May Elizabeth had further contact with either family was about 1921, when she wrote to Frederick from the Midlands appealing to be allowed to return to the family home as she was desperately missing her 5 children. Her request was rejected and that was the last time any member of both families (DAWSON'S or CATCHPOLE'S) heard or saw of her. There is, however, a twist to this tale! Frederick's trade was as a church organ builder and repairer and several years ago, I made the acquaintance of a local man, Neville NEWBY, who had been one of Frederick's apprentices. In the early part of 1998, Neville received a letter from a person asking if he had known Frederick DAWSON, his family or descendants. Significantly, this letter was sent from the Midlands. Neville replied by letter, stating that he had known Frederick, and only knew one descendant, that being me, but couldn't remember my name. It was several moths after Neville had received the letter that I met Neville again in Norwich. He told me of the letter, and when I asked if he had kept it , he said that he would try to find it. Unfortunately, he had not kept it, and also, could not remember who had sent it or the address, other than it was from the Midlands. Should the person from the Midlands, who wrote to Neville NEWBY about Frederick DAWSON, read this message would they please contact me? Are they a descendant of May Elizabeth DAWSON or FINCH? (nee CATCHPOLE)? Or, perhaps some Lister may have heard of this tale from the lips of May Elizabeth or her descendant(s) and can tell me what happened to her. Both the DAWSON and CATCHPOLE families' descendants would dearly like to know. It would be marvellous to have a satisfactory ending to such a tragic tale. If any Lister would like a photo of May Elizabeth DAWSON taken about 1916/17, in case they think they may recognise her, please let me know and I'll e-mail them a copy. I'm keeping my fingers crossed! Mike Wilkinson Newton Flotman Norfolk ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire

Hi Listers This is a shot in the dark by me in trying to trace my maternal Grandmother. I just hope that you have the patience to read it! My maternal grandparents were Frederick DAWSON (1884-1962) and May Elizabeth CATCHPOLE (1886-?). Both were born in Norwich, Norfolk and were married there in 1905. Between that year and 1915 they had 4 daughters and 2 sons, one of whom died in infancy in 1913. During WW1 Frederick served in the Royal Engineers on the Western Front. About 1917/18, as Norwich army barracks were full to capacity, soldiers were billeted out in local homes. I assume that some were billeted in the street where the DAWSON family lived, as during this period there was a shooting incident in the family home between 2 soldiers over May Elizabeth. This came to the attention of the military and Frederick was sent home on leave from France to resolve the matter. As May Elizabeth was pregnant by one of the soldiers, Frederick threw her out, and she left, leaving behind all the children, never to see them again. May Elizabeth DAWSON was last seen boarding a train from Norwich bound for Doncaster to join the soldier, it is assumed, by whom she was pregnant. Whether she gave birth to the child is not known. According my cousin (daughter of my eldest aunt) the soldier my Grandmother left with had a surname which was that of a bird, possibly FINCH. I'm not certain of this surname and as there were 84 surnames that were names of birds in the 1891 Census, I'm hedging my bets that it could be the right name <VBG>. The only time that May Elizabeth had further contact with either family was about 1921, when she wrote to Frederick from the Midlands appealing to be allowed to return to the family home as she was desperately missing her 5 children. Her request was rejected and that was the last time any member of both families (DAWSON'S or CATCHPOLE'S) heard or saw of her. There is, however, a twist to this tale! Frederick's trade was as a church organ builder and repairer and several years ago, I made the acquaintance of a local man, Neville NEWBY, who had been one of Frederick's apprentices. In the early part of 1998, Neville received a letter from a person asking if he had known Frederick DAWSON, his family or descendants. Significantly, this letter was sent from the Midlands. Neville replied by letter, stating that he had known Frederick, and only knew one descendant, that being me, but couldn't remember my name. It was several moths after Neville had received the letter that I met Neville again in Norwich. He told me of the letter, and when I asked if he had kept it , he said that he would try to find it. Unfortunately, he had not kept it, and also, could not remember who had sent it or the address, other than it was from the Midlands. Should the person from the Midlands, who wrote to Neville NEWBY about Frederick DAWSON, read this message would they please contact me? Are they a descendant of May Elizabeth DAWSON or FINCH? (nee CATCHPOLE)? Or, perhaps some Lister may have heard of this tale from the lips of May Elizabeth or her descendant(s) and can tell me what happened to her. Both the DAWSON and CATCHPOLE families' descendants would dearly like to know. It would be marvellous to have a satisfactory ending to such a tragic tale. If any Lister would like a photo of May Elizabeth DAWSON taken about 1916/17, in case they think they may recognise her, please let me know and I'll e-mail them a copy. I'm keeping my fingers crossed! Mike Wilkinson Newton Flotman Norfolk

Thanks for that Helen, most usefull. regards Mike Helen Verrall <hverrall@ihug.co.nz> wrote: Mike Pre 1841 census information is very fragmented - there were censuses taken in 1801-11-21-31 Heads of Households only - Also prior to that some local census . From a list I have, the following locations hold records for 1801-1831 Staffordshire Record Office Wednesbury 1801-1811-1821 Colwich 1811 1801 Stafford Parish of St Mary 1801 Biddulph Newcastle under Lyme 1820 Tettenhall 1831 Blymill and Sedgley Lichfield Record Office 1801 Lichfield Parish of St Michael 1828 " Parish of St Chad Walsall Record Office 1801 Parish of Walsall ( including Bloxwich and Bentley) 1811-1821-1831 Walsall (Borough Township only ) hth Helen -----Original Message----- From: Michael Wheeler [mailto:mike_wheeler@btinternet.com] Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005 11:20 a.m. To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Pots] PRE 1841 CENSUS INFO. Hi all I was wondering if anyone can tell me what Census's information prior to 1841 exists within Staffordshire and the Potteries and how to access them?? thanks Mike ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire

Mike Pre 1841 census information is very fragmented - there were censuses taken in 1801-11-21-31 Heads of Households only - Also prior to that some local census . From a list I have, the following locations hold records for 1801-1831 Staffordshire Record Office Wednesbury 1801-1811-1821 Colwich 1811 1801 Stafford Parish of St Mary 1801 Biddulph Newcastle under Lyme 1820 Tettenhall 1831 Blymill and Sedgley Lichfield Record Office 1801 Lichfield Parish of St Michael 1828 " Parish of St Chad Walsall Record Office 1801 Parish of Walsall ( including Bloxwich and Bentley) 1811-1821-1831 Walsall (Borough Township only ) hth Helen -----Original Message----- From: Michael Wheeler [mailto:mike_wheeler@btinternet.com] Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005 11:20 a.m. To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Pots] PRE 1841 CENSUS INFO. Hi all I was wondering if anyone can tell me what Census's information prior to 1841 exists within Staffordshire and the Potteries and how to access them?? thanks Mike ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire

At 23:22 17/02/05, Helen wrote: >Pre 1841 census information is very fragmented - there were censuses >taken in 1801-11-21-31 Heads of Households only - Also prior to that >some local census . > From a list I have, the following locations hold records for 1801-1831 Thanks, Helen. You really are a mine of useful information. ATB Andy.

Hi all I was wondering if anyone can tell me what Census's information prior to 1841 exists within Staffordshire and the Potteries and how to access them?? thanks Mike

At 12:46 14/02/05, you wrote: >Hi Andy, the Talbot Inn still existing and is now a very nice restaurant >theme pub (good food), close to National Trust Biddulph Grange Gardens Thanks Pete for a speedy response! Sounds like a good day out when the weeds come into flower :-) BW Andy.

Is this the best list for Biddulph? I'd like to know where the Talbot Inn was, and if it still exists - I suspect from the 1851 census that it's between Congleton and Biddulph Common. My ancestor Ralph LOWE was publican in 1851, and also according to Helen's list http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/STS/Dir/StaffsPubs1818.html in 1818, though not in 1834. Does anyone know any more about him? I have some details from the IGI and the 1851 census. TIA Andy

Hi Andy, the Talbot Inn still existing and is now a very nice restaurant theme pub (good food), close to National Trust Biddulph Grange Gardens (good day out if you like plants / weeds!) and the owner should be easy enough to contact by 192 or similar. Below should be the multi link map but address should come up easy as Overton Road, Biddulph (the PH by Poolfold) _http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=390000&Y=360000&width= 700&height=400&gride=388867.508353229&gridn=358347.695849038&srec=0&coordsys=g b&db=freegaz&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap =&table=&ovtype=&zm=0&scale=50000&multimap.x=303&multimap.y=249_ (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=390000&Y=360000&width=700&height=40 0&gride=388867.508353229&gridn=358347.695849038&srec=0&coordsys=gb&db=freegaz& addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovty pe=&zm=0&scale=50000&multimap.x=303&multimap.y=249) Peter Wayman in Stoke-on-Trent

Jean If you look on http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks1.html SS could mean Stepson Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "j.ankers1" <j.ankers1@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 11:46 PM Subject: [Pots] Re: [STS] Re: initials > Hi Arlene, Before this goes any further I think I should say that my > original e mail was really two separate queries. The first has been > resolved, i.e. Female servant . > > The second query was about the initials SS after the mans name. It was a > Joseph Sweetenham? SS married as a widower aged 54 in 1893, occupation, > labourer. His (dec) father was Thomas Sweetenham SS, Sinker. I've looked on > the 1881 census, there are only three possibles, none born in Staffs. The > most likely seems to bethe one born in Gosport, and his occupation was > Bargeman. > > Could the SS be related to his occupation? As he is not in my direct line, > I shall have to just wonder, I suppose. Thanks for your time and interest. > Thanks also to others who took their time to respond. Cheers, Jean. > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Arlene Hetchler > Date: 02/11/05 15:57:57 > To: j.ankers1 > Subject: Re: [STS] Re: initials > > Jean, > What did he list as his profession in the 1841 census? > Also, did he sign his name or make an 'X' on his > marriage cert.? > Arlene > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > > ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== > The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire >

Hi Arlene, Before this goes any further I think I should say that my original e mail was really two separate queries. The first has been resolved, i.e. Female servant . The second query was about the initials SS after the mans name. It was a Joseph Sweetenham? SS married as a widower aged 54 in 1893, occupation, labourer. His (dec) father was Thomas Sweetenham SS, Sinker. I've looked on the 1881 census, there are only three possibles, none born in Staffs. The most likely seems to bethe one born in Gosport, and his occupation was Bargeman. Could the SS be related to his occupation? As he is not in my direct line, I shall have to just wonder, I suppose. Thanks for your time and interest. Thanks also to others who took their time to respond. Cheers, Jean. -------Original Message------- From: Arlene Hetchler Date: 02/11/05 15:57:57 To: j.ankers1 Subject: Re: [STS] Re: initials Jean, What did he list as his profession in the 1841 census? Also, did he sign his name or make an 'X' on his marriage cert.? Arlene __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

-------Original Message------- From: j.ankers1 Date: 02/11/05 14:49:17 To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Pots] RE: re : initials Hi John, The suspense is getting to me too!. The F.S. means Female servant, and if you find MS it means Male servant, BUT, I've had no response to the other query. The initials SS were after the mans name, and also after his fathers name. (his occupation was a Sinker, if that could be a clue.) Still clueless, Jean. -------Original Message------- From: John Tunnicliffe Date: 02/11/05 09:03:41 To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Pots] RE: re : initials Don't keep us in suspense!!!!!!!!???????????? What was the answer? ha!! ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire

Mike asked the question below and here is my quick way of finding out the answer if you are using the CDs Get the "person" you are after and then do click on the "neighbour" button. Move to the next Street or road by using the UP / Down arrows and note their names. By a process of elimination you can always find out the true street location by this method. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Michael Wheeler [mailto:mike_wheeler@btinternet.com] Sent: 08 February 2005 20:58 To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Pots] Raglan Street Hi All I have a street in the 1881 census called Raglan St. Stoke on Trent. But is this the Raglan St. Fenton or was there another in Stoke? Regards Mike -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 10/02/2005

Hi John, The suspense is getting to me too!. The F.S. means Female servant, and if you find MS it means Male servant, BUT, I've had no response to the other query. The initials SS were after the mans name, and also after his fathers name. (his occupation was a Sinker, if that could be a clue.) Still clueless, Jean. -------Original Message------- From: John Tunnicliffe Date: 02/11/05 09:03:41 To: ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Pots] RE: re : initials Don't keep us in suspense!!!!!!!!???????????? What was the answer? ha!! ==== ENG-STS-THE-POTTERIES Mailing List ==== The List for the Pottery Towns of the Ancient County of Staffordshire

Hello I am looking for information on the family of an ANNE HUMPHREYS born 1816 in West Hatch, Somerset. Her father was called Thomas and mother was Elizabeth. I would like to know about any of her family. By 1853 ANNE HUMPHREYS had married CHARLES SUTTERBY (publican) and they lived in Eastgate Street Staffordshire, and had a son called CHARLES SUTTERBY born 1853. I have got the information from CHARLES SUTTERBY'S (1853) birth certificate. ANNE HUMPHREYS and CHARLES SUTTERBY went on to have another 2 children, HENRY SUTTERBY 1857 born Middlesex and EMILY SUTTERBY 1858 again born Middlesex. It would be great if anyone had any info on a GRO for the marriage ANNE HUMPHREYS to CHARLES SUTTERBY, or information on the birth for CHARLES SUTTERBY (father of Charles 1853) I don't know anything about CHARLES SUTTERBY. My grandmother said the SUTTERBY'S originated from Lincolnshire but I haven't found anything. Many thanks for any information Kind Regards Amanda