Several subscribers have emailed me ref my posting about Gentracers, and found that the MSN group was no longer in action. I emailed the list owner this morning and got this back in reply. Chris please inform all your members that we are alive and well and have a BRAND NEW site We are now residing at www.gentracers.com <http://www.gentracers.com> Many users had problems joining the MSN site due to Net passports etc so we decided to move I sincerely apologise and just hope that we eventually get to see anhd indeed help all the visitors Thankyou for advising us of the situation Happy Hunting Jimgentrace Http://www.gentracers.com <http://www.gentracers.com>