Hi Jean You are quite right, the 1841 census has not been indexed. The reason why organisations have not spent any effort to do this, is because the 1841 census is not very useful. At each address, it gives a list of names, approximate ages and occupations if any. It also says whether each person was born in the same County as that in which the census was being taken. So whereas from the 1851 census (and later ones) one can establish (assuming always that the people concerned were giving true answers) pretty much where and when someone was born, and their relationships to other people in the same household, we cannot do the same from the 1841 returns. As a result of this, one cannot just look up a name in 1841. Given an address, one can use street indexes to find the right part of the census to look at, but without an address it is just a matter of virtually wandering the streets looking for the name you want. Not a nice or rewarding job, especially in a crowded town. If you give us the address from 1851, either I or the local studies people could look at it, but the chances of a family being at the same address for ten years is pretty low, especially among the renting classes. Cheers, Dave Jacobs =============== At 19:47 18/11/2004, Jean Williams wrote: >Hi Dave > >You did not mention the 1841 census so I take it that is not indexed. > >I am still trying to find my Family in the 1841 census and as one child was >born in 1839/40 in Southampton I think that is where they are most likely to >be in 1841. The details in 1851, in case you come across them, are: > >Piece 1659 Folio 736 > >William Kingston born Portsmouth, age 42 mechanical draughtsman >Tryphena Kingston, born Dartmouth, age 35 >William born Southampton, age 11 > >Many thanks > >Jean > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dave Jacobs [mailto:Dave@Jacobs.net] >Sent: 18 November 2004 15:28 >To: ENG-SOUTHAMPTON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [ENG-SOU] 1861 census > > >Dear Eleanor and others > >An index for the 1861 census of Southampton is apparently all but complete, >and is available on paper at Southampton Local Studies Library, which is >where I have consulted it. > >I do not know what plans there are for wider publication, but I will send a >message to local.studies@southampton.gov.uk and ask them. I'll relay their >answer to the List. > >Meanwhile if anyone has a name to look up there, you have a choice of >asking the LSL directly, or asking me and I'll do it on my next trip >in. The same in fact for any of the 1851-1891 censuses which are all >indexed. > >Cheers, Dave Jacobs >=============== > > At 23:13 17/11/2004, Elenor Ross wrote: > >Hi DAve and all, > > > >Jumping on the back of this last message, I wasn't aware that an index for > >the 1861 census was in the works anywhere so I'm very delighted to see this > >message. I've been waiting for a long time now to receive the 1861 census >CD > >from Archive Books but would very much like to get my hands on a copy of >the > >index. More information please? > > > >Thanks. Eleanor, B. C. Canada > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Dave Jacobs" <Dave@Jacobs.net> > >To: <ENG-SOUTHAMPTON-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 7:37 AM > >Subject: Re: [ENG-SOU] 1861 census Look up Please / LEAKE > > > > > > > Hi Heather > > > > > > Sory if someone has already answered off line, although there is really > > > nothing to report. > > > The 1861 census index for Southampton (I take it this was where you >wanted > > > us to look?) is almost completely finished, but sadly there is no entry > >for > > > William or Isabella Leake or family. Or any variation on the name, as > > > Leak, Leek, Leeke. > > > > > > Cheers, Dave Jacobs > > > =============== > > > > > > At 13:10 09/11/2004, Heather Brown wrote: > > > >Hello List, > > > > > > > >If any kind member has access to the 1861 census, would they please do >a > > > >look up for me? > > > > > > > >I am interested in finding any information on the LEAKE family. > > > > > > > > >From the 1871 census this family are all stated as being born in St > > > > Mary's Bourne. > > > > > > > >Now I am not to sure about all of them as being born there, but I think > > > >there is a very good chance of William LEAKE being born there. > > > > > > > >The LEAKE family should include in 1861: > > > >William - c 1823 ? -1831? > > > >Isabella (nee HOSKIN) - 1823 ? - 1831 ? > > > >William - ? - son > > > >Thomas - c 1857 - 1862 - son - (given places of birth from Army records > > > >Somerset & Marriage cert & 1901 Census Southampton) > > > >Robert - 1860 - son > > > > > > > >1871 Census: > > > >William - 48 - St Mary Bourne > > > >Isabella - 48 - St Mary Bourne > > > >Robert - 11 - St Mary Bourne > > > >Sarah - 5 - St Mary Bourne > > > >John - 1 - St Mary Bourne > > > > > > > >The 1881 census > > > >William - 50 - Portsmouth, Hampshire > > > >Isabella - 50 - Devon > > > >Robert - 21 - Taunton, Somerset > > > >Sarah - 18 - Southampton - seems to have gained quite a few years! > > > >John - 11 - Portsmouth, Hampshire > > > > > > > >Thomas is not on either the 1871 or 1881 census. > > > > > > > >I have been unable to find any birth record for Thomas, when he married > >my > > > >gt Aunt Sarah HOSKING in July 1900 he gave his age as 40 yrs, and on >the > > > >1901 census he gave his age as 41yrs. > > > > > > > >Any help would be truly appreciated, no matter how small. > > > > > > > >Many thanks and best wishes > > > >Heather Brown (nee Hosking) > > > > > > > > > > > >============================== > > > >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > > >areas they lived. 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