Thought we would pass this on for those looking for pubs in the area! Have one for us when you visit them!! Chris and Caroline Click here: Pubs in Southampton Hi Chris, don't know if this site is any use to anyone. Best wishes Jo in Hedge End --- All of our outgoing mail is checked and certified Virus Free by regularl updates Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.707 / Virus Database: 463 - Release Date: 15/06/2004

Hello Dave and all, I am currently feeling very happy about having found my Hannah Blake and her children ages 2 months (my gr grandmother) 2 yrs (James) and 4 yrs (Samuel) in the 1841 census (which I have) of St Mary, Southampton. I wanted to let you know this, DAve, as you did so much work for me earlier on this family. You may recall you found Samuel Blake, 14, visitor with James Hurdle in the 1851 census for me and we wondered about who he was and what was the relationship if any. For those who don't know, James Hurdle is named as my gr grandmother's father on her marriage entry. I haven't been able to locate birth entries for any of these children through freebmd or 1837 on line. Though I think Dave that you did look in Parish Registers for me earlier, I'd like to take one more stab at that if someone could suggest who to contact. I believe but am not absolutely positive that they were Church of England. And as well DAve I wanted to let you know we have now got Hannah's death certificate. She died Hannah Blake, March 24, 1871 in Freemantle at Trafalgar Rd just before the census was taken. So is Southampton Bereavement Services the place to enquire about her burial? Thanks, Eleanor in B. C. Canada

Hi Paul I certainly won't be tripping over them by accident among the many thousands of graves in Southampton Cemeteries, but you could ask these people if they can give you the actual details Bereavement Services Provision and operation of cemeteries and Crematorium. Also Maintenance of records. Directorate: Development and Sustainability Availability: Office Hours Charges: none Area: city Address: 6 Bugle Street Southampton SO14 2AJ Email: <mailto:r.hancock@southampton.gov.uk>r.hancock@southampton.gov.uk Telephone: 023 8083 2362 or 023 8033 0364 Fax: 023 8033 0364 =============================== If you give me plot locations, I can probably take a photograph for you if you like. Cheers, Dave Jacobs =============== At 13:08 28/05/2004, Paul Barfoot wrote: >I don't know any plot numbers, but if you're there and you happen to run >across any of the names listed below, I'd love to know about them - but >don't make a special trip. > >William Barfoot d. abt.1860 >James Barfoot d. July 1900 >Edna Ethel Barfoot d. abt 1900 >Hannah Pring d. unknown > >Thanks. > >Paul Barfoot > > > > >>> Dave Jacobs <Dave@Jacobs.net> 05/28/04 07:48AM >>> >Hi All > >Being a man (and only going there in broad daylight) I have no problem >visiting Millbrook Cemetery, so if anyone has a plot there they'd like >looked at or photographed, I can do that for you. > >Cheers, Dave Jacobs >============== > >At 20:07 26/05/2004, el.lsa@lineone.net wrote: > >Dear all > > > >I now have a few requests to look for graves at Stoneham cemetery, & intend > >a visit within the next week. If anyone else has a plot they'd like me > >to photograph, shout now! > >When I made the original offer, it included St Mary Extra, Hollybrook & > >Southampton Old cemetery on the common. Millbrook is just to spooky & full > >of drunks for me to venture too I'm afraid. > >I'm happy to go any of them as long as you can provide the plot details. > > The only one that ever gives me any grief is the one on the common. It's > >extremely overgrown in places & it's easy to loose your footing & end up > >where you don't want to end up in a graveyard!! It's also full of > >rats...however, > >some areas are accessible & I can probably tell from the plot reference > >if it's one I'd be able to get to easily. > >Best wishes, > >Debbie (Southampton U.K.) > > > > > > > >============================== > >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > ><http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237>http:// > www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. ><http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hi Derek and others Have you tried these helpful people? Special Collections at Southampton Libraries Fascinating material on the city, the people and the port of Southampton can be found in the Special Collections Library. Special Collections Library CIVIC Centre Southampton SO14 7LW Tel: 023 8083 2205 Fax : 023 8033 6305 Minicom: 023 8083 2463 E-mail: <mailto:local.studies@southampton.gov.uk>local.studies@southampton.gov.uk Cheers, Dave Jacobs ============== At 20:57 05/06/2004, derekive wrote: >I wondered if anyone has any informtion about Southampton Photographers. I >have recently acquired a large framed photograph of 25 schoolgirls with a >lady with fur stole and hat and a military gentlemen, perhaps 1920's or >30's?. Obviously a school photograph. The photographer was Nellie G Smith >Commercial Rd Southampton. >I would like to try and find out more about the picture and thought I >would try and start with the photographer. > >regards >Derek Ive > > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hello All This is aimed at HGS members based in the UK and indeed, non-members who may wish to join and participate in the local family history group. There are a number of vacancies on the Committee and also some of the voluntary jobs that need the enthusiastic input that has been so evident within the Society for many years. Our Chairman,Ron Hall, has indicated he will be stepping down at the AGM in September 2004 and in addition, a replacement Treasurer to succeed Roger Smith will be required at the same time. There are a number of admin roles at the Cosham Office to be filled (although living in the Portsmouth area would be an advantage). Help is needed with the collation of genealogical sources, the HFH Journal indexing. Project Co-ordinator, Dolina Clarke, who amongst other duties looks after the vitally important transcription projects undertaken by the Society. If you can help, email either chairman@hgs-online.org.uk OR secretary@hgs-online.org.uk for further details Thanks in anticipation Tony Knight Publicity Officer HGS Web Site: www.hgs-online.org.uk

I contacted Derrick offlist and it now appears likely that he is related to my WILTSHIRE family. Will keep you posted Hilary

Does anyone know of this family? Robert Nelson worked as a Boilermaker (shipyard)in 1922 when daughter Violet was born, address at the time was 7 Guillaume Terrace Southampton, mother was shown as Lavinia Freeman formerly Wigger. As informants were shown as R.Nelson Father L. Freeman Mother, am I right in assuming that they weren't married? How can I find out more about Robert? Thanks Jan

Does anybody have any info on a firm called PEGLERS from Southampton? A friend of ours in NZ was going through the archives at the museum in Blenheim when he found a knife and fork. More like a carving knife, but the fork was more or less forked just out of the handle. The handles were of wood, beautifully carved, with hall-marked silver ferrules. He would like to know a bit more on the firm itself so if anyone can help we both would be grateful Chris and Caroline SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) The History of the villages of Hampshire and its surrounding counties http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages --- All of our outgoing mail is checked and certified Virus Free by regularl updates Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.698 / Virus Database: 455 - Release Date: 02/06/2004

I would like to send a big thank you to listers who have recommended contacting Southampton Bereavement Services. I e-mailed them in the wee small hours yesterday, and received a very helpful reply today. This is their response to my query about John James HART, and you can see how much detail it contains. "John James Hart and Mary Ann Hart (presumably his wife) were buried in grave A8/276 at Hollybrook Cemetery Southampton. There is a headstone and kerbset on the grave. The details are: John James Hart, buried aged 74 on 02/08/1927. He died on 28/07/1927 at 'Rosedale' Harcourt Road, Mary Ann Hart, buried aged 86 on 28/09/1946. She died on 25/09/1946 at North Lodge, Efford Park, Everton near Lymington, Hants. Home address as above." Unfortunately, it still leaves me in the dark as to John James HART's date and place of birth, and he does not appear on 1837online. I would definitely recommend contacting Southampton Bereavement Services if you would like information on an ancestor's grave. At least I now have a family grave to visit when I travel to England later this year. Judy Mills, Toronto --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 6/7/2004

Hello Jeanne What a fascinating document. I'm not sure I can help, but I can make a few comments anyway! =========== At 11:18 09/06/2004, Jeanne Mayer wrote: >I wonder if someone can help me understand a birth certificate I have just >received. >I sent for it for the birth of a great uncle so as to try and establish >the date of marriage of >my great grandparents. He was obviously married twice as the eldest child >was only a year older than my great grandmother. 'He' being your great grandfather? And is your great uncle the said eldest child? Never mind anyway ... ==== >The certificate I have just received says mother Caroline COCKING now the >wife of Francis WELLMAN > >does"now the wife" mean that she was not his wife when the child was born. == I've not seen this before, but I should think you are right. I presume it doesn't say 'formerly' anything, so it looks as though COCKING was her maiden name. I also presume Caroline was the informant, and Francis was not present to claim fatherhood. Who does it give as the father? Have you looked for the marriage of Francis Wellman within the nine months before the child's birth? ==== >He was born at Salisbury, but mothers address was given as Millbrook, >Southampton. == I presume the registration was in the Salisbury (or perhaps Alderbury) Registration District? The registration is supposed to be in the same district as the birth. ==== >Also, he was born 26th Feb but the birth was not registered until 15th >April, so slightly more than the normal six weeks or was the law different >then? == When was 'then' by the way? I can't see the year. It has always been six weeks for a birth; having to travel back to the birth district might have contributed to the delay although depending on the date there was probably a good rail service between Millbrook and Salisbury. ==== Cheers, Dave Jacobs

I wonder if someone can help me understand a birth certificate I have just received. I sent for it for the birth of a great uncle so as to try and establish the date of marriage of my great grandparents. He was obviously married twice as the eldest child was only a year older than my great grandmother. The certificate I have just received says mother Caroline COCKING now the wife of Francis WELLMAN does"now the wife" mean that she was not his wife when the child was born. He was born at Salisbury, but mothers address was given as Millbrook, Southampton. Also, he was born 26th Feb but the birth was not registered until 15th April, so slightly more than the normal six weeks or was the law different then? Jeanne _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

Derrick Saw your posting on ENG-SOUTHAMPTON list ref Clovelly Road. Had a look in our Kellys Southampton Directory for 1914-1915 but nobody list in Clovelly Road under Wiltshire at that time. But I did find these which may be of use to you, the one in Bevois Valley Road is not far away from Clovelly Road. Also there was a chimney sweep in Totton with the name of WILTSHIRE, he used to drive round in a little blue three wheeled van, that was converted from a motorcycle. I think the family live in Sutton Road or Ewell Way which is a continuation of Sutton Road at Testwood in Totton. Chris WILTSHIRE Albt Edwd. 47 St John's Road Woolston WILTSHIRE Charles, 30 Cromwell Road Southampton WILTSHIRE Charles Thomas, 10 Polygon Road Southampton WILTSHIRE Edward 14 Ivy Road Itchen WILTSHIRE Edward, "Kirriemuir", 78 Hill Lane Southampton WILTSHIRE Frank, "Norton", Broadlands Road Portswood WILTSHIRE Gilbert Charles, "Sondan Villa", Englefield Road Bitterne Park WILTSHIRE Hector, 2 Weston Road Eastleigh WILTSHIRE James, 71 Heysham Road Freemantle WILTSHIRE Maurice, 77 Bevois Valley Road Southampton WILTSHIRE Misses, 22 Waterloo Road Freemantle WILTSHIRE Thomas James Sarum House, Totton WILTSHIRE Wm Jas, "The Grange" Netley Abbey --- All of our outgoing mail is checked and certified Virus Free by regularl updates Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.698 / Virus Database: 455 - Release Date: 02/06/2004

Dear Derrick I can't help you myself right now, but there are local places who can! You don't say exactly how you know your Frederick was a Southampton resident, and was born in 1862, but I expect you have researched this enough to be sure. I'm surprised in that case that you failed to find Fred's birth registration at the Family Records Centre, and I would think it more likely that he was recorded under a slightly different spelling of his name, or in another year, than that his birth was not registered at all. The local studies contact point (see below) at Southampton Library will be able to check his appearance in the 1871 census for example. You have him in 1891, and no doubt in 1881 as well, but you don't mention 1901. I only ask in order to know roughly when he might have died. Local studies can also find him in local Directories. To find his burial, if it was in a Southampton Cemetery, you should ask Southampton Bereavement Services - contact point also given below. If he was buried here, they should be able to give you the date and place of burial, his age and address at the time. Unfortunately Southampton Archives Dept is currently closed for refurbishment until late July, otherwise one could look in their master card index to see if Fred's baptism was recorded in a Southampton church. The staff may nevertheless have access to their holdings, so it would be worth asking them, at city.archives@southampton.gov.uk The information below is from the Official Southampton Site: http://www.southampton.gov.uk/citylife/councilservices.htm Cheers, Dave Jacobs ================ Bereavement Services Provision and operation of cemeteries and Crematorium. Also Maintenance of records. Directorate: Development and Sustainability Availability: Office Hours Charges: none Area: city Address: 6 Bugle Street Southampton SO14 2AJ Email: <mailto:r.hancock@southampton.gov.uk>r.hancock@southampton.gov.uk Telephone: 023 8083 2362 or 023 8033 0364 Fax: 023 8033 0364 =============================== Special Collections at Southampton Libraries Fascinating material on the city, the people and the port of Southampton can be found in the Special Collections Library. Special Collections Library CIVIC Centre Southampton SO14 7LW Tel: 023 8083 2205 Fax : 023 8033 6305 Minicom: 023 8083 2463 E-mail: <mailto:local.studies@southampton.gov.uk>local.studies@southampton.gov.uk Please note that personal callers will be asked to produce proof of their name and address or a valid Southampton City Libraries card. Local Studies Collection The Local Studies Collection brings every aspect of Southampton life and history alive. Contemporary material e.g. local policy documents, Council minutes and modern large-scale <http://www.southampton.gov.uk/leisure/libraries/information/special//leisure/libraries/information/special/the-southampton-library-map-collection.asp>maps rub shoulders with standard histories and works on the local architecture and environment, our industrial heritage & prominent figures The collection`s core is material on the city and its environs, however coverage extends to South-West Hampshire and includes background material on the county as a whole. Much of our information is in the form of pamphlets, illustrations, maps and periodicals. Our file of local newspapers, which date back to 1772, makes fascinating reading, and is supplemented by an invaluable cuttings collection, started in 1939 and still added to daily. Of particular interest to family historians will be Southampton Census returns 1841-1891, transcripts of selected local parish registers and a collection of street directories spanning the 1790s to the 1970s.To find out more look here <http://www.southampton.gov.uk/leisure/libraries/information/special//leisure/libraries/information/special/the-southampton-library-local-history-collection.asp>Local studies Collection The Special Collections Library runs two outreach programmes to support your local studies collection. * The <http://www.southampton.gov.uk/leisure/libraries/information/special//leisure/libraries/information/special/local-history-forum.asp>LocalHistory Forum supports those active or interested in all aspects of the city and its surroundings through regular meetings and occasional visits. * The <http://www.southampton.gov.uk/leisure/libraries/information/special//leisure/libraries/information/special/the-southampton-library-family-collection.asp>FamilyHistory Club meets monthly to enable the sharing of genealogical experience between those researching family histories. Maritime History Our long history is interwoven with the sea and, although national in remit, the Maritime Collection features many works on ships with strong Southampton connections. The ill-fated Titanic, whose tragic loss had such an impact on the town, is particularly well documented. The total Collection, however, offers much more to the maritime enthusiast or researcher - material on shipping lines, emigration, marine engineering, ship design & voyages, complements major runs of maritime periodicals, yearbooks & registers, many of which bear the famous names of LLoyds and Jane`s. Want to know more - have a look here <http://www.southampton.gov.uk/leisure/libraries/information/special//leisure/libraries/information/special/the-southampton-library-maritime-collection.asp>Southampton Maritime Collection ======================================= At 12:03 08/06/2004, you wrote: >Dear David, > >Can you help :- > >My Great-grandfather Frederick Wiltshire was a Southampton resident during >the later period of the 19th century, I know his year of birth is 1862 ..but >a search @ the FRO London showed no info... could you recommend any local >searches (parish churches records etc ) . > >He work in the Ordnance Survey office London Rd 1890's (he signed the >Jubilee book in 1897) do you have reference material that may be available >to further my research, I have his address as 16 Clovelly rd (1891 census), >I would like to find if he is buried in one of the many cemeteries ( I >believe the "old cemetery" is still there ?).. is a online search possible >?? > >I would dearly like discover any info on the way of life in the town at this >period can you recommend any sources, museum's, journal's books and archives >etc > >Any help would be much appreciated. > > >Best Regards, > >Derrick Wiltshire Electronics Dept >e-mail: derrickw@rmlmallock.co.uk >tel: +44(0)1933 402440 >fax: +44(0)1933 676497 > >(All goods are supplied ex RML works, excluding VAT, and subject to RML's >standard terms & conditions of sale which are available on request) > > > > >********************************************************************** >This communication is confidential and intended >only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is >addressed. > >If you have received this communication in error please >notify us immediately and destroy the original. > >Any copying or dissemination of this communication is >unauthorised. > >Although this communication and any attachments are >believed to be free from any virus, or any other defect >which might affect any computer or IT system into which >they are received and opened, it is the responsibility of >the recipient to ensure that they are virus free and no >responsibility is accepted by Ray Mallock Limited for >any loss or damage arising in any way from receipt or >use thereof. > >All goods and services are supplied ex RML works, >excluding VAT, and subject to RML's standard terms & >conditions of sale which are available on request. > >www.rmlmallock.co.uk >**********************************************************************

Hi List Could someone who has access to the 1851 Census please help. I am looking for my G G Grandmother Elizabeth Stratton born Twyford abt 1848. I know from her marriage certificate that her father was Charles Stratton. Thank you Elaine

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I wondered if anyone has any informtion about Southampton Photographers. I have recently acquired a large framed photograph of 25 schoolgirls with a lady with fur stole and hat and a military gentlemen, perhaps 1920's or 30's?. Obviously a school photograph. The photographer was Nellie G Smith Commercial Rd Southampton. I would like to try and find out more about the picture and thought I would try and start with the photographer. regards Derek Ive

RG9/1409/83/5: Union Workhouse, Newton Abbot A. Medland, aged 8 (male), scholar, born Southampton Hope someone can claim him! Sara

Hello List, Is there any kind person who would been willing to take a look at a certificate I have. I am trying to make out one of the witnesses first initial. I think it is an "L". And if I am right, then I must have another Hosking family member in Southampton who I know nothing about! Best wishes Heather

The website http://www.southampton.gov.uk/leisure/archives/ states that they are shut until 19th July. Hilary

Somebody said they could not contact Southampton Archives, the reason is they are being refurbished and more storage space added and expect to be open within a few days. Chris and Caroline --- All of our outgoing mail is checked and certified Virus Free by regularl updates Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.691 / Virus Database: 452 - Release Date: 26/05/2004