Keith, It helps if you include name date and location in subject line. It's also important to convey where you've looked and any peculiarities you might have found in things like census records. I couldn't find a marriage for Thomas Creed and Elizabeth around 1815 - 1825. Usually this would be in bride's home parish in Wales. But I did find this submitted tree on Family Search https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/3MHY-KY6 You can never be sure of accuracy in other people's family trees, so use them as a guide and check out fully. The tree has parents for Thomas and suggests daughter Elizabeth married John Wallwork. After Elizabeth's death in 1856, in Birmingham, it shows John married an Ellen Creed, who could be a sister or cousin to Elizabeth. It needs to be checked with FreeBMD. I couldn't find Thomas in 1841 census to check any children. Where was he, and how was his name transcribed? Did he have a daughter Ellen? I notice he moved about from Somerset, to Derby and Worcestershire. Hope this helps, Peter PS!! I doubt Elizabeth was your grandfather. And I think you're missing a couple of greats