Patrick Williams wrote: > Births Sep 1843 > STARK Eliza Ann Bridgwater 10 321 > > Yes this is a James but listed as a grocer and still alive in 1871 From a purely personal point of view, I wouldn't totally dismiss this one *yet*. If Eliza had a falling out with her father, say over her choice of preferred husband, she could have demoted him and "killed him off" out of spite/revenge. > Births Dec 1843 > STARK Elizabeth Clifton 11 310 > > I have yet to find further details on this one. Good luck :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/