Thanks Charani, no I haven't looked there yet but will keep it in mind. Best wishes, Wendy

Dear Elizabeth, Thanks so much for this tip, I will take a look. Best regards, Wendy

I note the PR Baptisms are currently being suscribed, but if anyone has access to the baptisms there, I would be pleased if they could look for the following. Albion James OSMOND, born 1886 - 1888 at Queen Camel, son of Harry [Henry] and Elizabeth Anne [nee Miller of Oborne Dorset]. I can't find a baptism on Ancestry. The family roamed Somerset and Dorset throughout their lives, with Harry's family mainly basd in the Dorchester area at that time, to which Harry later returned. Albion went on to be a baker at Clevedon, while Harry and his second wife Lavinia ended up at Milverton. Harry was a steam roller driver at times. I am also looking for the burial of their mother Elizabeth Anne Osmond, who died in 1893. Thanks for any advice, Wendy

I have a Francis Cook born 1838 in Wookey but there was more than one Francis born in the same year I wondered if anyone else was following any of these lines please Many thanks Pauline

Thank you Elizabeth for that information.In a way,I am pleased that there are no other baps,in D.W.since I am trying to research Anna Spark,who married 1731 in Thorncombe.I have a baptism of an Anna 1712 in Yarcombe Devon,with parents John and Ann.A chap from the Devon list advised me the prs for Yarcombe were not available.The S&D.FHS provided the marriage details in D.W.Had there been a number of baptisms,it could have ruled out this couple,who I believe went on to have children in Whitestaunton. Regards,Charles

Hi, Genuki Somerset has almost nothing on the Dowlish Wake page so no OPC . But Freereg has transcriptions of its registers but I cannot see any other than Samuel for DW , perhaps they moved ? Have you tried A2A for Somerset to see if there is any reference to them there , Spark is a very populous name and I didn`t check all the bapts on Freereg . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Hawker" <charles_hawker@o2.co.uk> To: <eng-somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 5:52 PM Subject: [ENG-SOM] Spark baptisms in Dowlish Wake early 1700s > John Spark married Ann Sealy in Dowlish Wake,26.12.1703.I know that a > Samuel Spark,was baptised there in 1705.I would like to discover if any > other baptisms are recorded for Spark in this parish,and wondered if there > was an OPC for Dowlish Wake,who may be able to help me. > Regards,Charles > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John Spark married Ann Sealy in Dowlish Wake,26.12.1703.I know that a Samuel Spark,was baptised there in 1705.I would like to discover if any other baptisms are recorded for Spark in this parish,and wondered if there was an OPC for Dowlish Wake,who may be able to help me. Regards,Charles

Dear Peter, That is wonderful. It is always nice to hear of the end result and it is good to know that all your (and many other people's) labours paid off. I wonder if Hilda Grace didn't lie her real middle names, although I rather like Ethel Louisa's full name - quite impressive. Good luck and happy hunting with the rest of it. Regards, Kathryn -----Original Message----- From: eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of P Elliott Sent: Monday, 19 August 2013 11:57 PM To: ENG-SOMERSET@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-SOM] RE Francis Guise Stevens Hi everyone, In July 2012 I put a request on this board for information regarding Francis Guise Stevens of somerset, his eldest daughter Ethel louisa and younger daughter Hilda Grace (according to info from family in South Africa) I thought that folks might like to know the outcome. It took many months of fruitless combing of records of various sorts and emails to numerous folk and societies but finally a lady in New Zealand thought out of the box and came up trumps, via rootschat.com where I had also put a query. It turned out that there were 3 Francis Guise Stevens in the family 1 b Chard 1833,2 b Branscombe 1852 and 3 b Greenwich, d Camberwell 1879. It transpired that Ethel and Hilda were sisters of FGS NO.3 and because no 2 was an alcoholic and thought to be partially responsible for death of his son (no3) the girls were brought up by an aunt and not by their parents and that is where the New Zealand lady found them. Another barrier to our search was that when found Ethel Louisa was found to be Ethel Lydia Florence Mary, and Hilda Grace was Hilda Gertrude Hannah. postscript. A couple of months ago a direct descendent living in Cornwall, who has many paper records pertaining to the family got in touch so now many more fact may come to light. A big thankyou to all who took the time, to look up records, email tips and encouraging comments. Apologies for the length of this epistle. Thanks again peter . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Elizabeth.   I appreciate that and will try to join in the next day or two.   The James Tally bit looks interesting as that could be a relation of Wiltons.       I am not sure I have the right Wilton, but with an unusual name and the fact that Poyntington is not that far south East of West Camel, when I found a Wilton being born there in 1745 (as you can see I have done a bit of research in the meantime) I thought YES.  Right name, right age and right vicinity.     Now this Wilton had a brother James born 1737 also in Poyntington.   Then looking at the map I find that Marston Magna is bang smack in the middle of these two places, it seems to fit together somehow.     Gosh wouldn't that be something a Methodist preacher with a brother who was convicted of swearing and cursing - I love it.    Of course it could have been their father another James, he would have been about 58 if he was still alive.   Regarding the Dykes, I am a little happier about them as well.    They appear to have been quite a large family in Milborne Port, though I think that they might have moved there, perhaps from Ansford, as there appears to have been a George Dike/Dyke born there in 1779 - just the right age to start having children in Milborne Port in 1802 and just one year out in his age at death of 72.   Thank you once again, especially for James Tally   Eveline ________________________________ From: elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com> To: A CLARKE <evelineclarke183@btinternet.com>; eng-somerset@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 20 August 2013, 11:22 Subject: [ENG-SOM] Bennett, Dyke and Tally               Hi,  this caught my eye as I too suffer from a myriad of Bennetts all with the same boring Christian names !!!  on the Somerset archive online catalogue there is a James Tally of Marston Magna , miller and baker, who is convicted in 1772 of "swearing and cursing 10 profane oaths and curses " .  Tally is quite difficult to research because most catalogues don`t distinguish between the surname and the noun /verb . Bennett are too many to research ,  and the Dyke name again is sometimes a place and sometimes attached to the land owning Dyke Acland family ,.    You could try joining the Somerset Family History Society  , in fact I see its the Somerset and Dorset FHS  , life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "A CLARKE" <evelineclarke183@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-SOMERSET@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:26 AM Subject: [ENG-SOM] Bennett, Dyke and Tally Hi I am researching the above names for a cousin and these people seem to have popped either side of the Somerset/Dorset border. I am hoping that one of these names will leap out at someone and they will be able to help me. Caleb Bennett born West Camel in 1802 son of Thomas Bennett 1780 and Elsie Tally 1702. Caleb married Elizabeth Burrows at Sherborne in 1821. I quite a bit about Caleb and Elizabeth and their children who were born/baptised in Sherborne, Shepton Mallett and Wincanton, not everything, but enough to know where they lived and what they did for a living. It is Caleb and Elizabeth's ancestors who I am trying to find. Thomas Bennett and Elsie Tally were married in West Camel in 1801. Thomas's father was another Thomas Bennett married Ann Tapp in Mells in 1773. Thomas would have been born any time from about 1740 to 1755. Someone on the net has him being born 1749 at Blagdon, son of John Bennett. However, there was a Thomas born at Street in 1754 which is much closer to Mells where Ann Tapp was born. Ann Tapp's parents were Thomas Tapp and Hannah and I have found a brother Edward born 1757. Elsie Tally was the daughter of Wilson Tally and Ann Hanham. Wilson appears to be a Methodist preacher. One of the Thomas Bennetts appears to have been a carpenter in West Camel. An entry in Victoria House in Somerset states: The (nonconformist) group meeting in Wilton Tally's house in 1800, however, seems in origin to have been Methodist.... The Methodist cause may then be traced to the house of Thomas Bennett, licensed in 1809 and again in 1814, perhaps on rebuilding Certainly, later worshippers dated the origin of their chapel from the year 1814. The chapel was the upper story of a carpenter's shop opposite the pound at the western end of Keep Street.  It was still owned by the Bennett family in 1840, but later passed to the Digby Estate JK Wingfield-Digby sold it to Thomas Martin in 1892 (50.Glastonbury, Lambrook Street Medhodist Church, trust deeds, etc.).  This 'upper room' had sittings for 84 people, of which 60 were free.  in 1851 there were three services each Sunday and on Census Sunday the congretaions were 7 in the morning, 23 in the afternoon and 45 in the evening. My real conundrum (although any info at all would be appreciated) is that I know that by 1840 Caleb who was a glover living in Milborne Port was planning to emigrate to Canada, he had already been to the West Indies but the climate didn't suit him. So if the house was still in the Bennett family, I am wondering whether Thomas born 1750 had older siblings who inherited the property. I won't go into Elizabeth Burrows ancestry as her parents were born in Dorset. The Dyke part comes in as Elizabeth daughter of Caleb married Sylvanus Dyke son of Sylvanus Dyke and Maria Parsons. Who in turn was the son of George Dyke and Tabitha Hyde. The Dykes at sometime had a gloving business employing quite a number of people. Any information from Sylvanus back to George and beyond would also be appreciated. I know I am asking a lot, but this cousin (living in Canada) is really keen to find out more about her history and as I live on Anglesey it is difficult for me to get down to the records office in Somerset. Regards Eveline ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, this caught my eye as I too suffer from a myriad of Bennetts all with the same boring Christian names !!! on the Somerset archive online catalogue there is a James Tally of Marston Magna , miller and baker, who is convicted in 1772 of "swearing and cursing 10 profane oaths and curses " . Tally is quite difficult to research because most catalogues don`t distinguish between the surname and the noun /verb . Bennett are too many to research , and the Dyke name again is sometimes a place and sometimes attached to the land owning Dyke Acland family ,. You could try joining the Somerset Family History Society , in fact I see its the Somerset and Dorset FHS , life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "A CLARKE" <evelineclarke183@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-SOMERSET@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:26 AM Subject: [ENG-SOM] Bennett, Dyke and Tally Hi I am researching the above names for a cousin and these people seem to have popped either side of the Somerset/Dorset border. I am hoping that one of these names will leap out at someone and they will be able to help me. Caleb Bennett born West Camel in 1802 son of Thomas Bennett 1780 and Elsie Tally 1702. Caleb married Elizabeth Burrows at Sherborne in 1821. I quite a bit about Caleb and Elizabeth and their children who were born/baptised in Sherborne, Shepton Mallett and Wincanton, not everything, but enough to know where they lived and what they did for a living. It is Caleb and Elizabeth's ancestors who I am trying to find. Thomas Bennett and Elsie Tally were married in West Camel in 1801. Thomas's father was another Thomas Bennett married Ann Tapp in Mells in 1773. Thomas would have been born any time from about 1740 to 1755. Someone on the net has him being born 1749 at Blagdon, son of John Bennett. However, there was a Thomas born at Street in 1754 which is much closer to Mells where Ann Tapp was born. Ann Tapp's parents were Thomas Tapp and Hannah and I have found a brother Edward born 1757. Elsie Tally was the daughter of Wilson Tally and Ann Hanham. Wilson appears to be a Methodist preacher. One of the Thomas Bennetts appears to have been a carpenter in West Camel. An entry in Victoria House in Somerset states: The (nonconformist) group meeting in Wilton Tally's house in 1800, however, seems in origin to have been Methodist.... The Methodist cause may then be traced to the house of Thomas Bennett, licensed in 1809 and again in 1814, perhaps on rebuilding Certainly, later worshippers dated the origin of their chapel from the year 1814. The chapel was the upper story of a carpenter's shop opposite the pound at the western end of Keep Street. It was still owned by the Bennett family in 1840, but later passed to the Digby Estate JK Wingfield-Digby sold it to Thomas Martin in 1892 (50.Glastonbury, Lambrook Street Medhodist Church, trust deeds, etc.). This 'upper room' had sittings for 84 people, of which 60 were free. in 1851 there were three services each Sunday and on Census Sunday the congretaions were 7 in the morning, 23 in the afternoon and 45 in the evening. My real conundrum (although any info at all would be appreciated) is that I know that by 1840 Caleb who was a glover living in Milborne Port was planning to emigrate to Canada, he had already been to the West Indies but the climate didn't suit him. So if the house was still in the Bennett family, I am wondering whether Thomas born 1750 had older siblings who inherited the property. I won't go into Elizabeth Burrows ancestry as her parents were born in Dorset. The Dyke part comes in as Elizabeth daughter of Caleb married Sylvanus Dyke son of Sylvanus Dyke and Maria Parsons. Who in turn was the son of George Dyke and Tabitha Hyde. The Dykes at sometime had a gloving business employing quite a number of people. Any information from Sylvanus back to George and beyond would also be appreciated. I know I am asking a lot, but this cousin (living in Canada) is really keen to find out more about her history and as I live on Anglesey it is difficult for me to get down to the records office in Somerset. Regards Eveline ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi   I am researching the above names for a cousin and these people seem to have popped either side of the Somerset/Dorset border.   I am hoping that one of these names will leap out at someone and they will be able to help me.   Caleb Bennett born West Camel in 1802 son of Thomas Bennett 1780 and Elsie Tally 1702.    Caleb married Elizabeth Burrows at Sherborne in 1821.   I quite a bit about Caleb and Elizabeth and their children who were born/baptised in Sherborne, Shepton Mallett and Wincanton, not everything, but enough to know where they lived and what they did for a living.       It is Caleb and Elizabeth's ancestors who I am trying to find.   Thomas Bennett and Elsie Tally were married in West Camel in 1801.    Thomas's father was another Thomas Bennett married Ann Tapp in Mells in 1773.   Thomas would have been born any time from about 1740 to 1755.     Someone on the net has him being born 1749 at Blagdon, son of John Bennett.   However, there was a Thomas born at Street in 1754 which is much closer to Mells where Ann Tapp was born.   Ann Tapp's parents were Thomas Tapp and Hannah and I have found a brother Edward born 1757.   Elsie Tally was the daughter of Wilson Tally and Ann Hanham.   Wilson appears to be a Methodist preacher.   One of the Thomas Bennetts appears to have been a carpenter in West Camel.   An entry in Victoria House in Somerset states:  The (nonconformist) group meeting in Wilton Tally's house in 1800, however, seems in origin to have been Methodist.... The Methodist cause may then be traced to the house of Thomas Bennett, licensed in 1809 and again in 1814, perhaps on rebuilding   Certainly, later worshippers dated the origin of their chapel from the year 1814.  The chapel was the upper story of a carpenter's shop opposite the pound at the western end of Keep Street. It was still owned by the Bennett family in 1840, but later passed to the Digby Estate JK Wingfield-Digby sold it to Thomas Martin in 1892 (50.Glastonbury, Lambrook Street Medhodist Church, trust deeds, etc.). This 'upper room' had sittings for 84 people, of which 60 were free. in 1851 there were three services each Sunday and on Census Sunday the congretaions were 7 in the morning, 23 in the afternoon and 45 in the evening.   My real conundrum (although any info at all would be appreciated) is that I know that by 1840 Caleb who was a glover living in Milborne Port was planning to emigrate to Canada, he had already been to the West Indies but the climate didn't suit him.    So if the house was still in the Bennett family, I am wondering whether Thomas born 1750 had older siblings who inherited the property.   I won't go into Elizabeth Burrows ancestry as her parents were born in Dorset.   The Dyke part comes in as Elizabeth daughter of Caleb married Sylvanus Dyke son of Sylvanus Dyke and Maria Parsons.   Who in turn was the son of George Dyke and Tabitha Hyde.    The Dykes at sometime had a gloving business employing quite a number of people.    Any information from Sylvanus back to George and beyond would also be appreciated.   I know I am asking a lot, but this cousin (living in Canada) is really keen to find out more about her history and as I live on Anglesey it is difficult for me to get down to the records office in Somerset.   Regards   Eveline

Hi , Peter has now emailed to confirm , as if confirmation were needed, that genealogy is the most frustrating rewarding time consuming occupation ever !!! I have just summarised a Deed dated 1847 " executed in Canada " from Wiveliscombe James Warren and Elizabeth Hill Warren , nee Stone , have moved to Yarmouth, Saint Thomas London District Upper Canada . Fundamentally the deed registers the existence of Elizabeth Hill Warren`s three sons Robert Stone Warren, John Warren and James Warren and therefore their claim to anything that might devolve down through leases and releases of land etc in Wiveliscombe from Robert Stone , Elizabeth Warren`s father . What a tangled web ..........!!!! life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=///

Hi everyone, In July 2012 I put a request on this board for information regarding Francis Guise Stevens of somerset, his eldest daughter Ethel louisa and younger daughter Hilda Grace (according to info from family in South Africa) I thought that folks might like to know the outcome. It took many months of fruitless combing of records of various sorts and emails to numerous folk and societies but finally a lady in New Zealand thought out of the box and came up trumps, via rootschat.com where I had also put a query. It turned out that there were 3 Francis Guise Stevens in the family 1 b Chard 1833,2 b Branscombe 1852 and 3 b Greenwich, d Camberwell 1879. It transpired that Ethel and Hilda were sisters of FGS NO.3 and because no 2 was an alcoholic and thought to be partially responsible for death of his son (no3) the girls were brought up by an aunt and not by their parents and that is where the New Zealand lady found them. Another barrier to our search was that when found Ethel Louisa was found to be Ethel Lydia Florence Mary, and Hilda Grace was Hilda Gertrude Hannah. postscript. A couple of months ago a direct descendent living in Cornwall, who has many paper records pertaining to the family got in touch so now many more fact may come to light. A big thankyou to all who took the time, to look up records, email tips and encouraging comments. Apologies for the length of this epistle. Thanks again peter .

On 17/08/2013 15:16, elizabeth howard wrote: > Hi , the very sensible mailing list bounced all four of the attached papers, > so please contact me with your plain email address . Thanks . Rootsweb doesn't allow attachments or images. Email addresses are given in the original post to which you are replying. Just do a copy and paste. . -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Hi , the very sensible mailing list bounced all four of the attached papers, so please contact me with your plain email address . Thanks . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=///

Afternoon all, www.wsom.org.uk has just been updated with Lydeard St. Lawrence Baptisms and Marriages now taken back to 1753/4. Burials will be next. Cheers, Martin Southwood

Hello Elizabeth, What a wonderful find! Shame they weren't some of your own. Not sure exactly, but the names in those documents, are the same as several in my tree. Not direct ancestors, but siblings or spouses and cousins etc. All crop up in Wivliescombe, and Essex and Wales, can't be sure, as I con't have exact dates for some of them,. If you're sure you wouldn't mind sharing them, I'd be pleased to have a copy, so I can go over them with more details etc. Thanks for the opportunity to see them Yours in Genealogy, Jan, in sunny QLD, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "elizabeth howard" <elizgh@btinternet.com> To: <Eng-SomERSET@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 9:54 PM Subject: [ENG-SOM] STONE/ROGERS/WINTER > Hi, I have some handwritten papers from a > bundle bought at auction , which include 20th C notes on Rogers of > Wiveliscome wills, and an earlier page of the children of William WINTER, > b 1814, who married Sarah ROGERS, and the children of Anna Williams who > was b 1787 died 1868 who married Edward Rogers who died 1826 and 2ndly > James STONE who died 1869. William and Sarah Winter had 15 children and > the adds that in 1898 ( possibly the date of this note) she had 56 > grandchildren and 5 great grandchildren . Sarah Winter born Rogers dau of > Anna Williams , was one of 12 daughters and one son . > Edward Rogers senr had 4 sons including the Edward > mentioned above, and three daughters, of which Sarah married Robert Stone > and had Edward Rogers Stone, and Anna married James Slape and had a son > Benjamin. > Edward left a will dated 1813, and left Newtons to Sarah > his wife then to cousins Benjamin and Edward on trust for his > granddaughter Caroline "Left Daveys to Benjamin and Elizabeth ( son and > dau) Left Hugh Hills to Joseph and then his son Edward , Gamlins to George > and furniture brought from Cleyhanger . Edward to live at Newtons and if > he refuse then Benjamin ." > Benjamin Rogers ( presumably the son of Edward above ) left > a will dated 1836 and left to Thomas Broadmead of Milverton, farmer, and > William Stone, butcher , nephew, of Wiveliscombe , Davys , in trust for > nephew Benjamin Rogers Slape son of James Slape . > Other notes say that Sarah Stone sister of Benjamin and > George mother of William lived at Chipstable , and that Caroline Rogers > granddaughter of Benjamin m William Rogers Stone of Bampton , Devon , and > lived at Clifton before marriage . > From a fleeting search of the 1851 census it would appear > that James and Anna Stone both born Wiveliscome were living in Bristol , > he was a poulterer , William and Sarah Winter were living in Narberth in > Wales in 1851 , she born Wiveliscombe and he in Brompton Ralph. Judging > by the ages of the children of William and Sarah , the family moved to > Wales between the births of Benjamin aged 6 in the 1841 census described > as N for not born in county and the birth of John aged 3 and born Wales , > so between 1835 and 1838. > If these are anyone`s family , I would be more than happy > to scan in copies for you . They are not my family . > > > > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is a Winters Farm in Brompton Ralph I believe. I have ancestors there [Coles, Bale and others] but sadly none of the above. Wendy

Hi, I have some handwritten papers from a bundle bought at auction , which include 20th C notes on Rogers of Wiveliscome wills, and an earlier page of the children of William WINTER, b 1814, who married Sarah ROGERS, and the children of Anna Williams who was b 1787 died 1868 who married Edward Rogers who died 1826 and 2ndly James STONE who died 1869. William and Sarah Winter had 15 children and the adds that in 1898 ( possibly the date of this note) she had 56 grandchildren and 5 great grandchildren . Sarah Winter born Rogers dau of Anna Williams , was one of 12 daughters and one son . Edward Rogers senr had 4 sons including the Edward mentioned above, and three daughters, of which Sarah married Robert Stone and had Edward Rogers Stone, and Anna married James Slape and had a son Benjamin. Edward left a will dated 1813, and left Newtons to Sarah his wife then to cousins Benjamin and Edward on trust for his granddaughter Caroline "Left Daveys to Benjamin and Elizabeth ( son and dau) Left Hugh Hills to Joseph and then his son Edward , Gamlins to George and furniture brought from Cleyhanger . Edward to live at Newtons and if he refuse then Benjamin ." Benjamin Rogers ( presumably the son of Edward above ) left a will dated 1836 and left to Thomas Broadmead of Milverton, farmer, and William Stone, butcher , nephew, of Wiveliscombe , Davys , in trust for nephew Benjamin Rogers Slape son of James Slape . Other notes say that Sarah Stone sister of Benjamin and George mother of William lived at Chipstable , and that Caroline Rogers granddaughter of Benjamin m William Rogers Stone of Bampton , Devon , and lived at Clifton before marriage . From a fleeting search of the 1851 census it would appear that James and Anna Stone both born Wiveliscome were living in Bristol , he was a poulterer , William and Sarah Winter were living in Narberth in Wales in 1851 , she born Wiveliscombe and he in Brompton Ralph. Judging by the ages of the children of William and Sarah , the family moved to Wales between the births of Benjamin aged 6 in the 1841 census described as N for not born in county and the birth of John aged 3 and born Wales , so between 1835 and 1838. If these are anyone`s family , I would be more than happy to scan in copies for you . They are not my family . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=///

Alan Knutson wrote: > Perhaps they were the ones killed in action. They all came home. That's why Shapwick is one of the Thankful Villages. There's only 51 of them. There's one where all the men who served in WWII also all came home. http://www.hellfirecorner.co.uk/thankful.htm Shapwick sent 32 men. There's only one other place that sent more who all returned. That was in Lancashire. Rebecca