Good morning, Please note new email address janeb@skymesh.com.au Betty Beasley

This grave should still be there as it will be a war grave with a headstone maintained by the CWGC: http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/394444/BENTLEY,%20A%20W%20B There is an associated volunteer project to photograph all war graves and, if this one does not yet appear in their search results, you can contact them and make a request (for a small donation): www.twgpp.org/search.php Celia At 05:03 20/10/2013, you wrote: >Is anyone local to Taunton who would be kind enough to photo the grave of >2nd Lieut Arthur Webb Butler BENTLEY, of the 3rd Yorkshire Regiment died 2 >December 1918 aged 35, Old Ground 7391 in Taunton (St. Mary's) Cemetery. > >With thanks, >Mike

Hello Again Mike I have just looked at the Commonwealth War Graves Site and was interested to see the picture they show of St Mary's Cemetery, this is the newer of the two in Wellington Road. The old ground is on the other side of the road and is much larger, as you can see in the picture of the newer Cemetery, most of the monuments are standing, burials still take place in this one but only where plots were purchased in the past. With the one you are looking for I would imagine the marker is still in place as it is a CWG plot, I will certainly have a look next time I am there. Regards Patrick Williams Is anyone local to Taunton who would be kind enough to photo the grave of 2nd Lieut Arthur Webb Butler BENTLEY, of the 3rd Yorkshire Regiment died 2 December 1918 aged 35, Old Ground 7391 in Taunton (St. Mary's) Cemetery. With thanks, Mike

I went to this cemetery a couple if years ago and there were no headstones above ground. Apparently the council made the decision to bury them as a preservation measure. If you contact the cemeteries office they can give you the transcript of the headstone, if there was one. I found them to be very helpful and lovely people. Ros Lumley Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass; it's about learning to dance in the rain. > On 20 Oct 2013, at 0:21, "Mike Berrell" <mike_berrell@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > Is anyone local to Taunton who would be kind enough to photo the grave of > 2nd Lieut Arthur Webb Butler BENTLEY, of the 3rd Yorkshire Regiment died 2 > December 1918 aged 35, Old Ground 7391 in Taunton (St. Mary's) Cemetery. > > With thanks, > Mike > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Elizabeth, Snip>> Do you know where your Glovers came from ?<<< Yes, from Staffordshire, Longdon actually. But the oldest ancestor I have in that line was born County Mayo, Ireland, perhaps his dad was in the British army, or the family were actually Irish, horror of horrors for my husband, who loves being 'English"....especially when sporting events are on between England and Aussies. Cheers, Jill

Hi Mike If no one else offers, I will see what I can do when I go into Taunton in a couple of weeks, I have to say the there may not be any stone available as most have been taken down in the old Cemetery. There are a few but not many. Regards Patrick Bruton Somerset Is anyone local to Taunton who would be kind enough to photo the grave of 2nd Lieut Arthur Webb Butler BENTLEY, of the 3rd Yorkshire Regiment died 2 December 1918 aged 35, Old Ground 7391 in Taunton (St. Mary's) Cemetery. With thanks, Mike

Is anyone local to Taunton who would be kind enough to photo the grave of 2nd Lieut Arthur Webb Butler BENTLEY, of the 3rd Yorkshire Regiment died 2 December 1918 aged 35, Old Ground 7391 in Taunton (St. Mary's) Cemetery. With thanks, Mike

Oh dear, and yes either is possible , Ireland or the British Army !! life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Glover" <jmglover@tpg.com.au> To: <eng-somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 1:31 PM Subject: [ENG-SOM] Glover.... > Hi Elizabeth, > Snip>> Do you know where your Glovers came from ?<<< > > > Yes, from Staffordshire, Longdon actually. But the oldest ancestor I have > in > that line was born County Mayo, Ireland, perhaps his dad was in the > British > army, or the family were actually Irish, horror of horrors for my husband, > who loves being 'English"....especially when sporting events are on > between > England and Aussies. > > Cheers, > Jill > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Pleased to help . Do you know where your Glovers came from ? life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Glover" <jmglover@tpg.com.au> To: <eng-somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Charles BLACKMORE b. cir 1838...Pitminster. > Good evening Elizabeth, > > Thanks for your help once again with parishes, I know that Charles > Blackmore > was in NZ in 1874 so I can eliminate any of that name/age/from S'set.and > Devon in the 1881 census, so to work..... > > Thank you once again for your leads, > ,-._|\ best wishes, > / Oz \ jill , brisbane. > \_,--.x/ jmglover@tpg.com.au > v > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Good evening Elizabeth, Thanks for your help once again with parishes, I know that Charles Blackmore was in NZ in 1874 so I can eliminate any of that name/age/from S'set.and Devon in the 1881 census, so to work..... Thank you once again for your leads, ,-._|\ best wishes, / Oz \ jill , brisbane. \_,--.x/ jmglover@tpg.com.au v

Hi Elizabeth, Snip>> I wonder if I could have some help with a look-up for Charles BLACKMORE inthe 1841and 1851 census. Charles is on the 1861 census with wife Sarah, And daughter Elizabeth, 4mths. According to the 1861 census, Charles was b 1838 in Pitminster, Somerset, Sarah was from Getley Gross, Wales, and Elizabeth was b. Wellington, Somerset.,,,, Thank you for your helpful reply, I'll have a good look at the records you've sent, certainly gives me some leads. You said " In the 1851 for Wales there is a Charles Blackmore , relative, aged 11, labourer, b Pitminster, living in Bridge St , St John Cardiff, he is living with John Rich". And also..."Pitminster bapts are online via genuki/somerset but there is no bapt for Charles c 1838-40". You said "There are two births in the early BMD registers, and probably Charles b in the Wellington district , March 1/4 1840 is him", would that be the most likely Parish for Pitminster ? Is it possible that he could have been bapt. in Devon? Many thanks, Cheers, Jill Brisbane

Hi, if you go to FreeBMD you will find that there is an Informatiion icon , if you click on that you will get several paragraphs and under Statistics is Districts , if you click on Districts you will find all the parishes and the dates . Pitminster comes under the Taunton district but the system only started in Sept 1/4 of 1837 and things were a little fluid for the first few years . And yes it is quite possible he could have been born in Devon , the parishes involved are right on the border of Devon and Somerset . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Glover" <jmglover@tpg.com.au> To: <eng-somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Charles BLACKMORE b. cir 1838...Pitminster. > Hi Elizabeth, > > Snip>> > I wonder if I could have some help with a look-up for Charles BLACKMORE > inthe 1841and 1851 census. Charles is on the 1861 census with wife Sarah, > And daughter Elizabeth, 4mths. According to the 1861 census, Charles was b > 1838 in Pitminster, Somerset, Sarah was from Getley Gross, Wales, and > Elizabeth > was b. Wellington, Somerset.,,,, > > Thank you for your helpful reply, I'll have a good look at the records > you've sent, certainly gives me some leads. > > You said " In the 1851 for Wales there is a Charles Blackmore , relative, > aged 11, labourer, b Pitminster, living in Bridge St , St John Cardiff, he > is living with John Rich". > And also..."Pitminster bapts are online via genuki/somerset but there is > no > bapt for Charles c 1838-40". > You said "There are two births in the early BMD registers, and probably > Charles b in the Wellington district , March 1/4 1840 is him", would that > be > the most likely Parish for Pitminster ? Is it possible that he could have > been bapt. in Devon? > Many thanks, > Cheers, > Jill > Brisbane > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Good morning, I wonder if I could have some help with a look-up for Charles BLACKMORE in the 1841and 1851 census. Charles is on the 1861 census with wife Sarah, and daughter Elizabeth, 4mths. According to the 1861 census, Charles was b 1838 in Pitminster, Somerset, Sarah was from Getley Gross, Wales, and Elizabeth was b. Wellington, Somerset. Charles was a Brickmaker. I haven't been able to find him on the 1871 census either, but the family went to N.Z. in 1874, so he would have been in another country then. I do have Ancestry, but haven't been able to find Charles BLACKMORE from Pitminster . If anyone is researching this family, I'd love to hear from you. Many thanks, Jill Brisbane

Hi, freebmd shows a marriage of a Charles Blackmore in the Cardiff district in the March 1/4 of 1860 to possibly Sarah Perkins . There is a further marriage in the June 1/4 of 1861 Taunton district . In the 1851 for Wales there is a Charles Blackmore , relative, aged 11, labourer, b Pitminster, living in Bridge St , St John Cardiff, he is living with John Rich, head, marr, 45 , b Taunton, Mary , 52, b Pitminster, and Charlotte , dau, unm, 17, dressmaker, b Taunton, and John , son , 15, labourer, b Pitminster . They in turn are in a shared house with John Reynolds, 30 , labourer, b Gloucs, and his wife Mary Ann, wife, marr, 32, b Bridgwater . There are two births in the early BMD registers, and probably Charles b in the Wellington district , March 1/4 1840 is him , the other is b in March 1/4 of 1838 , but in the Tiverton district which is Devon but only just over the border and which district includes several Somerset parishes . In the 1841 Charles may be the 3 yr old son of William and Ann, both aged 35 , she is born in the county of Somerset, he is N for not born in county . William is a mason , and his eldest son Joseph aged 10 is a mason`s lab , they also have James 10 and Charles, 3. Also in Brushford is Benj Blackmore , 50, ag lab , Elizabeth , 45, and Charlotte, 7 . Pitminster bapts are online via genuki/somerset but there is no bapt for Charles c 1838-40.though there are many Blackmoor and Blackmore in the parish . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Glover" <jmglover@tpg.com.au> To: <ENG-SOMERSET@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 12:45 PM Subject: [ENG-SOM] Charles BLACKMORE b. cir 1838...Pitminster. > > Good morning, > > I wonder if I could have some help with a look-up for Charles BLACKMORE in > the 1841and 1851 census. Charles is on the 1861 census with wife Sarah, > and > daughter Elizabeth, 4mths. According to the 1861 census, Charles was b > 1838 > in Pitminster, Somerset, Sarah was from Getley Gross, Wales, and Elizabeth > was b. Wellington, Somerset. > Charles was a Brickmaker. I haven't been able to find him on the 1871 > census > either, but the family went to N.Z. in 1874, so he would have been in > another country then. > I do have Ancestry, but haven't been able to find Charles BLACKMORE from > Pitminster . > If anyone is researching this family, I'd love to hear from you. > Many thanks, > Jill > Brisbane > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Henry was born in East Coker, son of George and Mary [nee Frampton] Osmond. He married twice, and my family descends from his eldest child, Walter by his first wife, Elizabeth Miller, who died in 1893. They had three children and possibly a fourth who died shortly after birth [Faith, 1893]. Their first two children were born and baptised at Oborne, but the family were already living in the Dorchester area. Not found Albion’s baptism. Walter Henry [our grandfather] c. 1879, died Somme 1916 Also served Royal Navy as a boy, Boer War. Emily Jane 1881 Albion James 1886 - died 1964, a baker of Clevedon, descendants. Henry married secondly Lavinia Melinda Steed in Weymouth District in 1896, and had the following children: William Henry bapt. 29 Nov. 1897 Winterbourne Came Philadelphia, bapt. 1 Nov. 1898 Winterbourne Came. [married Henry C. IND]. Philadelphia died 1981 Chichester. Descendants. Evelyn Irene [died in infancy] 1899 - 1901. Bapt. Winterbourne Came. Louisa Amelia born in Wellington Dist. [Milverton], Somerset, April 1908 In 1877 Henry married Elizabeth Anne Miller at Oborne. In 1879 Walter Henry was born at Oborne. In 1881 Henry’s wife and son Walter were at Fordington, Dorset. In 1881 Emily Jane was born at Oborne. In 1886 Albion James was born at Queens Camel. [appears as Albert on 1891 Census]. In 1891 Henry, Elizabeth Anne [Annie] and three children at Podimore Milton In 1893 Elizabeth Anne died, possibly childbirth-related, Yeovil Reg. District. After their mother's death the boys appear to have lived with grandparents for a time at least - Walter is known to have been at Weston Zoyland in 1896 with his Miller grandparents. Albion in 1901 was with his widowed grandmother Mary Osmond at Congresbury. I have not found anything definite on their sister Emily Jane, there were many of the same name and age. In 1896 Henry married Lavinia Melinda Steed in Weymouth Dist. In 1901 Henry was at Upolowman, Devon, on his steam roller van, while his second wife and their children were in Winterbourne Came, Dorset. although Lavinia has entered him on the Census, with wrong age and place of birth. In 1911 Henry was a Road Roller Driver working for Wellington Dist. Council, living at Houndsmoor, Milverton, Somerset. ?Henry died 1925 in the same area. Lavinia died Taunton Reg. Dist. June 1959. Henry habitually knocked a few years off his age on the census entries If anyone has an interest or connection with the family I would be pleased to know. Wendy

Hi, Thanks for that. Yes, the name isn't very numerous. There were a few at Wiveliscombe, and, intriguingly, there were also a couple of men born in the area in question: Robert HEMBORROW, b. circa 1793, Exbridge/Brushford (depending upon which census you believe), and William HEMBURROW, b. circa 1787, Morebath/Exbridge; d. 1876, Wiveliscombe. The latter married Susan HAGLEY on 06 Jan 1842 at Wiveliscombe, when he gave his father as "John HEMBRO, labourer". Morebath, Exebridge and Bampton are set in a triangle, with each only about 2 miles apart, so I think it likely that the above chaps are brothers of my Mary HEMBURROW; but, as you say, I'll probably have to go the DRO for a search of the Morebath registers to be sure. As there are so many descendents of George FARMER and Mary HEMBURROW, I was being optimistic, and hoping that someone already had the info I needed! Re: the Stoke St Gregory and North Curry HEMBURROWs (still there, though usually spelt as HEMBROW these days), I don't think these are immediately connected. Likewise, there are a number of HEMBURYs in the Wedmore area of Somerset (my maternal grandfather was, coincidentally, one of these!) but I doubt that there is a connection. Many thanks for your kind and helpful email. Sue -----Original Message----- From: eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of elizabeth howard Sent: 11 October 2013 15:41 To: eng-somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-SOM] ENG-SOM] FARMER and HEMBURROW family Hi, Devon Family History Society has an index to marriages in the county 1754-1812 and 1813-1837 , and there are 2 Hemburrow marriages in both these periods and further 5 baptisms same name 1813-1839 both of which you might find useful to get as printouts if you go to the DFHS . From Somerset RO online catalogue there is a will for a William Hembrow of Stoke St Gregory dated 1873 , and a record in 1684 of a Joseph Hemburrow of North Curry , and the same date of a Thomas Hemburrow of Stoke St Gregory .From the NA there are four Hemburrow soldiers medal cards of the 1st WW . Not the most populous name and you may need to ask DRO for a search of the Morebath registers .

Hi, Devon Family History Society has an index to marriages in the county 1754-1812 and 1813-1837 , and there are 2 Hemburrow marriages in both these periods and further 5 baptisms same name 1813-1839 both of which you might find useful to get as printouts if you go to the DFHS . From Somerset RO online catalogue there is a will for a William Hembrow of Stoke St Gregory dated 1873 , and a record in 1684 of a Joseph Hemburrow of North Curry , and the same date of a Thomas Hemburrow of Stoke St Gregory .From the NA there are four Hemburrow soldiers medal cards of the 1st WW . Not the most populous name and you may need to ask DRO for a search of the Morebath registers . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "SusanKellow" <ksusan1999@gmail.com> To: <eng-somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 4:16 PM Subject: [ENG-SOM] FARMER and HEMBURROW family > I've been poring over some of my brick-walls this week. One of these > concerns my FARMER ancestry, and, as I know there are oodles of FARMER > descendents out there, I'm hoping that someone on the list may have the > answer I seek! > > George FARMER was my 4G Grandfather. He was bap 25 Mar 1796 at > Treborough, > Somerset, son of James FARMER and Mary nee HOLE. George FARMER married a > Mary HEMBURROW on 01 Oct 1816 at Luxborough, Somerset (witnesses James > HOLE > and John WEBBER). According to the 1841 census, Mary HEMBURROW was born > in > Somerset, sometime circa 1796-1801; according to the 1851 census, Mary had > been born circa 1797/1798 at Morebath, Devon, while according to the 1861 > census, she had been born circa 1796/1797 at Bampton, Devon. > > Does anyone have Mary HEMBURROW's baptism/birth details? I'm pretty sure > she wasn't baptised at Bampton as these baptisms are online (in Genuki > Devon). As I'm currently housebound, a trip to the Devon Record Office > regretfully isn't on the cards, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that > some > kind soul already has the details I need. And, of course, if anyone ties > into the above family, I'm always more than happy to share the info I *do* > have! > > Ever hopeful, > > Sue Hembury-Kellow > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Jill, Ah - I think you've confused the two Marys! <grin> Mary HOLE (1759-1803) was the mother of George FARMER - Mary HOLE married James HOLE in 1780 at Treborough, Somerset, and they had my George FARMER in 1796, Treborough. The lady I am actually looking for is Mary HOLE's daughter-in-law, Mary HEMBURROW, who married George FARMER in 1816 in Luxborough, Somerset. I guess Mary HEMBURROW was born circa 1797, probably at Morebath. I don't think she was a widow, as the Luxborough parish register tended to mention such things, and the entry merely mentioned the usual: ie. names and date. Best wishes, Sue -----Original Message----- From: eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jill and Peter Harvey Sent: 10 October 2013 16:36 To: eng-somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] FARMER and HEMBURROW family Hi Sue As nee means born, perhaps you are looking for the wrong name. Could she have been born Mary Hole, married a Hemburrow and was Mary Hemburrow widow on her marriage. That would explain James Hole (brother?, father? other relative) as witness at the wedding. Best wishes Jill

Hi Sue As nee means born, perhaps you are looking for the wrong name. Could she have been born Mary Hole, married a Hemburrow and was Mary Hemburrow widow on her marriage. That would explain James Hole (brother?, father? other relative) as witness at the wedding. Best wishes Jill On 10/10/2013 16:16, SusanKellow wrote: > I've been poring over some of my brick-walls this week. One of these > concerns my FARMER ancestry, and, as I know there are oodles of FARMER > descendents out there, I'm hoping that someone on the list may have the > answer I seek! > > George FARMER was my 4G Grandfather. He was bap 25 Mar 1796 at Treborough, > Somerset, son of James FARMER and Mary nee HOLE. George FARMER married a > Mary HEMBURROW on 01 Oct 1816 at Luxborough, Somerset (witnesses James HOLE > and John WEBBER). According to the 1841 census, Mary HEMBURROW was born in > Somerset, sometime circa 1796-1801; according to the 1851 census, Mary had > been born circa 1797/1798 at Morebath, Devon, while according to the 1861 > census, she had been born circa 1796/1797 at Bampton, Devon. > > Does anyone have Mary HEMBURROW's baptism/birth details? I'm pretty sure > she wasn't baptised at Bampton as these baptisms are online (in Genuki > Devon). As I'm currently housebound, a trip to the Devon Record Office > regretfully isn't on the cards, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that some > kind soul already has the details I need. And, of course, if anyone ties > into the above family, I'm always more than happy to share the info I *do* > have! > > Ever hopeful, > > Sue Hembury-Kellow

I've been poring over some of my brick-walls this week. One of these concerns my FARMER ancestry, and, as I know there are oodles of FARMER descendents out there, I'm hoping that someone on the list may have the answer I seek! George FARMER was my 4G Grandfather. He was bap 25 Mar 1796 at Treborough, Somerset, son of James FARMER and Mary nee HOLE. George FARMER married a Mary HEMBURROW on 01 Oct 1816 at Luxborough, Somerset (witnesses James HOLE and John WEBBER). According to the 1841 census, Mary HEMBURROW was born in Somerset, sometime circa 1796-1801; according to the 1851 census, Mary had been born circa 1797/1798 at Morebath, Devon, while according to the 1861 census, she had been born circa 1796/1797 at Bampton, Devon. Does anyone have Mary HEMBURROW's baptism/birth details? I'm pretty sure she wasn't baptised at Bampton as these baptisms are online (in Genuki Devon). As I'm currently housebound, a trip to the Devon Record Office regretfully isn't on the cards, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that some kind soul already has the details I need. And, of course, if anyone ties into the above family, I'm always more than happy to share the info I *do* have! Ever hopeful, Sue Hembury-Kellow