I do hope a joint group will be formulated. My ancestors came from the BORDER of the two counties, i.e. Clayhanger, Devon and Chipstable (and more) Somerset. An index of surnames for that area can be found in the Descendants chart for Richard Stone 1579 on the Stone page at the website shown below. -- John C. Stone II New Hampshire & Vermont, USA jcstone2@gmail.com www.stone-rhodes.org

thankyou Got them all except Wiltshire and Swindon web site is great it had a lot of Dorset wills which I bought all of - I am just looking for Somerset will at the moment and I see the wills on the Som site don't go back far enough the ones I want? Thank you Cheers Jill -- Jill [ARNOLD] MORLEY O.P.C. [Genealogy] for the village- Winterbourne Kingston in Dorset, England http://www.opcdorset.org Project - Street Names of the Copper Coast – project Project- Port Adelaide Notes and Pictures of Past People ---- elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com> wrote: ============= Hi, There are a number of Arnold of Devon, Dorset and Somerset wills, in the PCC will collections The earliest is 1595 for a Richard Arnold of Milton, Dorset. and a number of 17th C wills in Devon, Dorset and 18th in Somerset as well . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "A CLARKE" <evelineclarke183@btinternet.com> To: <eng-somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM Subject: [ENG-SOM] Fw: Ilchester parish records > Just before this subject is entirely finished, can I just ask if anyone > knows whether if during the Bristol Channel floods of 1607, the sea got as > far as Ilchester and perhaps destroyed any earlier records. I know that it > went as far as Glastonbury Tor and Ilchester is almost due south of that. > It might explain why there are no earlier records. > > Eveline > > > > Jill > Sorry that my good intentions in suggesting other avenues seems to have > upset you. > > I'm glad that you want to do your own research, and make your own > deductions. That is why I suggested you check out the online catalogue at > Somerset Archives. There are many results for ARNOLD and for ILCHESTER. > You would have to check them to know if they are of use. > > It's a pity that you are not able to access their film hire service. Apart > from any filmed records of Ilchester Parish Church, there are some others > that could help you. > > The Somerset Person Index A-Z comes to mind. This is a filming of a list > of original records held at the Archives. It is arranged alphabetically by > surname, and then lists all the occurrences of that surname (with given > names and years), in each Somerset Parish. It gives the filing reference > too, which I found invaluable in giving my researcher directions about the > material I wanted copies of. It could help you by seeing what parishes > your family is listed in. > > Another one although I don't remember how useful it was The Somerset Place > Index A-Z. Again this is a filming of a list of original records arranged > alphabetically by location. > > Another one I found useful was the Somerset settlement and bastardy index, > A-Z. This contains an inventory of those persons mentioned in the Somerset > poor law records that deal with settlement and bastardy, arranged > alphabetically by surname. Documents like those can help explain anomalies > from the parish register, and fill in what can't be found in the surviving > registers, like linking a son to his parents, because he is so described > in the document. My research suggested it was a likely link, but there was > no proof in the register. Perhaps I was super lucky that my families of > interest had a rich history in the Poor Law Records. > > Now I don't know if you have tried these avenues, but I assure you I have > read your email. I'm not trying to suggest you use online trees or > genealogies submitted. I'm not suggesting anything to do with the IGI > (which, by the way doesn't exist any more.) > > Bev > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jill [mailto:jillmorley@bigpond.com] > Sent: Sunday, 26 January 2014 6:51 AM > To: Bev Bonning; SOMERSET list > Subject: Ilchester parish records > > Thank you Bev > What I am after is the Name ARNOLD in the Ilchester Register only NO OTHER > > I say this because people do not always read the email and waste their > precious time sending advice that I have already look at or done > > I want to find the earliest ARNOLD records in area of Ilchester > > I also want to BUY their wills? if there is any or actual documents > > I do not want other Peoples research > > I do not want the info that the IGI has as most of it is sheep coping each > other I want to do my own deductions my own research > > So far I can find no proof of any ARNOLD's in Ilchester or that part of > Somerset in the mid to late 1500s? yet everyone says on familyserach.org > that they were there > > I was not going to say this because I might offend someone but it seems > there are no records and I need proof so that mean records. > > So Bev I do not think you can help me > As there are no records for Ilchester that have survived Thank you very > much for your reply and to all the others > > sincerely Jill > > > > > > > -- > Jill [ARNOLD] MORLEY > O.P.C. [Genealogy] for the village- Winterbourne Kingston in Dorset, > England http://www.opcdorset.org/ Project - Street Names of the Copper > Coast – project > Project- Port Adelaide Notes and Pictures of Past People > > > ---- Bev Bonning <kosan@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > ============= > Jill > Can you identify anything in the Somerset Archives catalogue that might be > useful? When I find anything there, I use a super researcher to go and get > copies for me. > I don't know about Ilchester, but maybe Findmypast could help, or even The > Genealogist. There are sometimes special deals for a month, 3 months > membership. > Those deals are often to be found in the LostCousins Newletters. Have you > used them? > > > Bev > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jill [mailto:jillmorley@bigpond.com] > Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014 4:34 PM > To: Bev Bonning > Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Ilchester parish records > > I don't live near a town and was hoping I could get the records online > guess it is not a good county for records I think I am spoilt being a > descendant from Dorset and their OPC is great some is Cornwall's I am a > member of Ancestry and they have very little on Somerset also? very > disappointing since I cant get to any other source So lining down under > means to got to their records office take a few thousand dollars is the > sufficient Jill > > -- > Jill [ARNOLD] MORLEY > O.P.C. [Genealogy] for the village- Winterbourne Kingston in Dorset, > England http://www.opcdorset.org/ Project - Street Names of the Copper > Coast – project > Project- Port Adelaide Notes and Pictures of Past People > > > ---- Bev Bonning <kosan@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > ============= > Jill > Have you looked at what is available in filmed records from FamilySearch? > Bishops Transcripts go back to 1594. > > If you are not close to a FamilySearch Family History Centre, you will > find that many Family History Societies are licensed for films to be sent > to for viewing. > > I have not found living 'down under' to be an insurmountable problem. When > you say "too far from any civilization", what do you mean? > > Bev > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jill > Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014 2:12 PM > To: eng-somerset@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Ilchester parish records > > I gave my reader away years ago because I thought I could get it all on > disc or the internet So no point is getting fiche I live too far from any > civilisation so no point > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, this is Combe St Nicholas from the Somerset Archives site........ Summary of holdings for Parish of 'Combe St Nicholas' Hundred Tithing Registration District Areas Kingsbury East Combe St Nicholas Yeovil Parish Registers Baptisms Marriages Burials Start 1678 1678 1678 End 1942 1984 1965 Transcripts 1678-1942 1813-1924 1678-1965 Monumental Inscriptions Phillimore 14 1 1678-1812 Dr Campbell's Index: Yes Dwelly Transcripts Manuscript Printed 13 1 Union Workhouse Union Births Deaths Chard 1848-1914 1848-1914 Census 1841 1851 1861 1871 1881 1891 Microfiche refs MC544 MC 935,936 MC 1270 MC 1599,1600 164 MC 95 life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Levine" <jplayer.levine19@gmail.com> To: <ENG-SOMERSET@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 9:54 PM Subject: [ENG-SOM] On the topic of Parish Records > Hi everyone, > > As we seem to be on the topic of parish record today I wonder if anyone > could shed some light on the availability or existence of baptism records > for Combe St Nicholas. My dead end here is approximately 1800. The > Marriage registers seem to be accessible but not the baptisms and burials > for the late decades of 1700's and early two decades of 1800's. > Were some of the parish records destroyed or just not filmed or > transcribed? I am interested in information or detail about the records > for this parish regarding any or all time periods. Any help is most > welcome. > > My surnames for the parish of Combe St Nicholas are PLAYER and BETTY. > Surnames in other areas of Somerset: St Decuman - PEPPIN and THORN > Bishop's Hull and locale: CROCKER > (Forever grateful to Martin Southwood & www.wsom.org.uk for these > wonderful > transcribed records!) > > All the best to everyone on the list. > Regards, > Jenny > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, There are a number of Arnold of Devon, Dorset and Somerset wills, in the PCC will collections The earliest is 1595 for a Richard Arnold of Milton, Dorset. and a number of 17th C wills in Devon, Dorset and 18th in Somerset as well . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "A CLARKE" <evelineclarke183@btinternet.com> To: <eng-somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM Subject: [ENG-SOM] Fw: Ilchester parish records > Just before this subject is entirely finished, can I just ask if anyone > knows whether if during the Bristol Channel floods of 1607, the sea got as > far as Ilchester and perhaps destroyed any earlier records. I know that it > went as far as Glastonbury Tor and Ilchester is almost due south of that. > It might explain why there are no earlier records. > > Eveline > > > > Jill > Sorry that my good intentions in suggesting other avenues seems to have > upset you. > > I'm glad that you want to do your own research, and make your own > deductions. That is why I suggested you check out the online catalogue at > Somerset Archives. There are many results for ARNOLD and for ILCHESTER. > You would have to check them to know if they are of use. > > It's a pity that you are not able to access their film hire service. Apart > from any filmed records of Ilchester Parish Church, there are some others > that could help you. > > The Somerset Person Index A-Z comes to mind. This is a filming of a list > of original records held at the Archives. It is arranged alphabetically by > surname, and then lists all the occurrences of that surname (with given > names and years), in each Somerset Parish. It gives the filing reference > too, which I found invaluable in giving my researcher directions about the > material I wanted copies of. It could help you by seeing what parishes > your family is listed in. > > Another one although I don't remember how useful it was The Somerset Place > Index A-Z. Again this is a filming of a list of original records arranged > alphabetically by location. > > Another one I found useful was the Somerset settlement and bastardy index, > A-Z. This contains an inventory of those persons mentioned in the Somerset > poor law records that deal with settlement and bastardy, arranged > alphabetically by surname. Documents like those can help explain anomalies > from the parish register, and fill in what can't be found in the surviving > registers, like linking a son to his parents, because he is so described > in the document. My research suggested it was a likely link, but there was > no proof in the register. Perhaps I was super lucky that my families of > interest had a rich history in the Poor Law Records. > > Now I don't know if you have tried these avenues, but I assure you I have > read your email. I'm not trying to suggest you use online trees or > genealogies submitted. I'm not suggesting anything to do with the IGI > (which, by the way doesn't exist any more.) > > Bev > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jill [mailto:jillmorley@bigpond.com] > Sent: Sunday, 26 January 2014 6:51 AM > To: Bev Bonning; SOMERSET list > Subject: Ilchester parish records > > Thank you Bev > What I am after is the Name ARNOLD in the Ilchester Register only NO OTHER > > I say this because people do not always read the email and waste their > precious time sending advice that I have already look at or done > > I want to find the earliest ARNOLD records in area of Ilchester > > I also want to BUY their wills? if there is any or actual documents > > I do not want other Peoples research > > I do not want the info that the IGI has as most of it is sheep coping each > other I want to do my own deductions my own research > > So far I can find no proof of any ARNOLD's in Ilchester or that part of > Somerset in the mid to late 1500s? yet everyone says on familyserach.org > that they were there > > I was not going to say this because I might offend someone but it seems > there are no records and I need proof so that mean records. > > So Bev I do not think you can help me > As there are no records for Ilchester that have survived Thank you very > much for your reply and to all the others > > sincerely Jill > > > > > > > -- > Jill [ARNOLD] MORLEY > O.P.C. [Genealogy] for the village- Winterbourne Kingston in Dorset, > England http://www.opcdorset.org/ Project - Street Names of the Copper > Coast – project > Project- Port Adelaide Notes and Pictures of Past People > > > ---- Bev Bonning <kosan@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > ============= > Jill > Can you identify anything in the Somerset Archives catalogue that might be > useful? When I find anything there, I use a super researcher to go and get > copies for me. > I don't know about Ilchester, but maybe Findmypast could help, or even The > Genealogist. There are sometimes special deals for a month, 3 months > membership. > Those deals are often to be found in the LostCousins Newletters. Have you > used them? > > > Bev > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jill [mailto:jillmorley@bigpond.com] > Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014 4:34 PM > To: Bev Bonning > Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Ilchester parish records > > I don't live near a town and was hoping I could get the records online > guess it is not a good county for records I think I am spoilt being a > descendant from Dorset and their OPC is great some is Cornwall's I am a > member of Ancestry and they have very little on Somerset also? very > disappointing since I cant get to any other source So lining down under > means to got to their records office take a few thousand dollars is the > sufficient Jill > > -- > Jill [ARNOLD] MORLEY > O.P.C. [Genealogy] for the village- Winterbourne Kingston in Dorset, > England http://www.opcdorset.org/ Project - Street Names of the Copper > Coast – project > Project- Port Adelaide Notes and Pictures of Past People > > > ---- Bev Bonning <kosan@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > ============= > Jill > Have you looked at what is available in filmed records from FamilySearch? > Bishops Transcripts go back to 1594. > > If you are not close to a FamilySearch Family History Centre, you will > find that many Family History Societies are licensed for films to be sent > to for viewing. > > I have not found living 'down under' to be an insurmountable problem. When > you say "too far from any civilization", what do you mean? > > Bev > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jill > Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014 2:12 PM > To: eng-somerset@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Ilchester parish records > > I gave my reader away years ago because I thought I could get it all on > disc or the internet So no point is getting fiche I live too far from any > civilisation so no point > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 26/01/2014 11:19, A CLARKE wrote: > Just before this subject is entirely finished, can I just ask if > anyone knows whether if during the Bristol Channel floods of 1607, > the sea got as far as Ilchester and perhaps destroyed any earlier > records. I know that it went as far as Glastonbury Tor and > Ilchester is almost due south of that. It might explain why there > are no earlier records. There were several articles and a TV program about this flood afew years ago which is believed by some to have been a tsunami. These could be found using a search engine. I can't recollect Ilchester being mentioned at all but my rememberer doesn't always work as well as it should. These are just a few of the results http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Channel_floods,_1607 http://survive2012.com/news/2012/06/british-tsunamis-3288.html http://news.nationalgeographic.co.uk/news/2007/05/070507-tsunami-britain.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzTLaxTcNrY http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/6305013.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6311527.stm I can't find a really detailed map. There are many reasons why there are no earlier records. There is a story of one incumbent's son who deliberately destroyed early registers in one parish. Some parish registers were found in the attic of a parish clerk after his death. He regarded them as /his/ property rather than the church's so took them with him when he retired from the position. Thankfully the people who found them realised what they were and their importance and returned them to the church. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

To all the people who have helped me with Ichester - THANK YOU you all have been a great help and I must say a nice lot on this list Thank you Sincerely Jill

Yes thankyou Les I am going to do this It is the only way I think Thankyou Jill

Great Charani thankyou Jill--

Just before this subject is entirely finished, can I just ask if anyone knows whether if during the Bristol Channel floods of 1607, the sea got as far as Ilchester and perhaps destroyed any earlier records.    I know that it went as far as Glastonbury Tor and Ilchester is almost due south of that.   It might explain why there are no earlier records.   Eveline   Jill Sorry that my good intentions in suggesting other avenues seems to have upset you. I'm glad that you want to do your own research, and make your own deductions. That is why I suggested you check out the online catalogue at Somerset Archives. There are many results for ARNOLD and for ILCHESTER. You would have to check them to know if they are of use. It's a pity that you are not able to access their film hire service. Apart from any filmed records of Ilchester Parish Church, there are some others that could help you. The Somerset Person Index A-Z comes to mind. This is a filming of a list of original records held at the Archives. It is arranged alphabetically by surname, and then lists all the occurrences of that surname (with given names and years), in each Somerset Parish. It gives the filing reference too, which I found invaluable in giving my researcher directions about the material I wanted copies of. It could help you by seeing what parishes your family is listed in. Another one although I don't remember how useful it was The Somerset Place Index A-Z. Again this is a filming of a list of original records arranged alphabetically by location. Another one I found useful was the Somerset settlement and bastardy index, A-Z. This contains an inventory of those persons mentioned in the Somerset poor law records that deal with settlement and bastardy, arranged alphabetically by surname. Documents like those can help explain anomalies from the parish register, and fill in what can't be found in the surviving registers, like linking a son to his parents, because he is so described in the document. My research suggested it was a likely link, but there was no proof in the register. Perhaps I was super lucky that my families of interest had a rich history in the Poor Law Records. Now I don't know if you have tried these avenues, but I assure you I have read your email. I'm not trying to suggest you use online trees or genealogies submitted. I'm not suggesting anything to do with the IGI (which, by the way doesn't exist any more.) Bev -----Original Message----- From: Jill [mailto:jillmorley@bigpond.com] Sent: Sunday, 26 January 2014 6:51 AM To: Bev Bonning; SOMERSET list Subject: Ilchester parish records Thank you Bev What I am after is the Name ARNOLD in the Ilchester Register only NO OTHER I say this because people do not always read the email and waste their precious time sending advice that I have already look at or done I want to find the earliest ARNOLD records in  area of Ilchester I also want to BUY their wills? if there is any or actual documents I do not want other Peoples research I do not want the info that the IGI has as most of it is sheep coping each other I want to do my own deductions my own research So far I can find no proof of any ARNOLD's in Ilchester or that part of Somerset in the mid to late 1500s? yet everyone says on familyserach.org that they were there I was not going to say this because I might offend someone but it seems there are no records  and I need proof so that mean records. So Bev I do not think you can help me As there are no records for Ilchester that have survived Thank you very much for your reply and to all the others sincerely Jill -- Jill [ARNOLD] MORLEY O.P.C. [Genealogy] for the village- Winterbourne Kingston in Dorset, England http://www.opcdorset.org/ Project - Street Names of the Copper Coast – project Project- Port Adelaide Notes and Pictures of Past People ---- Bev Bonning <kosan@optusnet.com.au> wrote: ============= Jill Can you identify anything in the Somerset Archives catalogue that might be useful? When I find anything there, I use a super researcher to go and get copies for me. I don't know about Ilchester, but maybe Findmypast could help, or even The Genealogist. There are sometimes special deals for a month, 3 months membership. Those deals are often to be found in the LostCousins Newletters. Have you used them? Bev -----Original Message----- From: Jill [mailto:jillmorley@bigpond.com] Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014 4:34 PM To: Bev Bonning Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Ilchester parish records I don't live near a town and was hoping I could get the records online guess it is not a good county for records I think I am spoilt being a descendant from Dorset and their OPC is great some is Cornwall's I am a member of Ancestry and they have very little on Somerset also? very disappointing since I cant get to any other source So lining down under means to got to their records office take a few thousand dollars is the sufficient Jill -- Jill [ARNOLD] MORLEY O.P.C. [Genealogy] for the village- Winterbourne Kingston in Dorset, England http://www.opcdorset.org/ Project - Street Names of the Copper Coast – project Project- Port Adelaide Notes and Pictures of Past People ---- Bev Bonning <kosan@optusnet.com.au> wrote: ============= Jill Have you looked at what is available in filmed records from FamilySearch? Bishops Transcripts go back to 1594. If you are not close to a FamilySearch Family History Centre, you will find that many Family History Societies are licensed for films to be sent to for viewing. I have not found living 'down under' to be an insurmountable problem. When you say "too far from any civilization", what do you mean? Bev -----Original Message----- From: eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jill Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014 2:12 PM To: eng-somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Ilchester parish records I gave my reader away years ago because I thought I could get it all on disc or the internet So no point is getting fiche I live too far from any civilisation so no point ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jill Sorry that my good intentions in suggesting other avenues seems to have upset you. I'm glad that you want to do your own research, and make your own deductions. That is why I suggested you check out the online catalogue at Somerset Archives. There are many results for ARNOLD and for ILCHESTER. You would have to check them to know if they are of use. It's a pity that you are not able to access their film hire service. Apart from any filmed records of Ilchester Parish Church, there are some others that could help you. The Somerset Person Index A-Z comes to mind. This is a filming of a list of original records held at the Archives. It is arranged alphabetically by surname, and then lists all the occurrences of that surname (with given names and years), in each Somerset Parish. It gives the filing reference too, which I found invaluable in giving my researcher directions about the material I wanted copies of. It could help you by seeing what parishes your family is listed in. Another one although I don't remember how useful it was The Somerset Place Index A-Z. Again this is a filming of a list of original records arranged alphabetically by location. Another one I found useful was the Somerset settlement and bastardy index, A-Z. This contains an inventory of those persons mentioned in the Somerset poor law records that deal with settlement and bastardy, arranged alphabetically by surname. Documents like those can help explain anomalies from the parish register, and fill in what can't be found in the surviving registers, like linking a son to his parents, because he is so described in the document. My research suggested it was a likely link, but there was no proof in the register. Perhaps I was super lucky that my families of interest had a rich history in the Poor Law Records. Now I don't know if you have tried these avenues, but I assure you I have read your email. I'm not trying to suggest you use online trees or genealogies submitted. I'm not suggesting anything to do with the IGI (which, by the way doesn't exist any more.) Bev -----Original Message----- From: Jill [mailto:jillmorley@bigpond.com] Sent: Sunday, 26 January 2014 6:51 AM To: Bev Bonning; SOMERSET list Subject: Ilchester parish records Thank you Bev What I am after is the Name ARNOLD in the Ilchester Register only NO OTHER I say this because people do not always read the email and waste their precious time sending advice that I have already look at or done I want to find the earliest ARNOLD records in area of Ilchester I also want to BUY their wills? if there is any or actual documents I do not want other Peoples research I do not want the info that the IGI has as most of it is sheep coping each other I want to do my own deductions my own research So far I can find no proof of any ARNOLD's in Ilchester or that part of Somerset in the mid to late 1500s? yet everyone says on familyserach.org that they were there I was not going to say this because I might offend someone but it seems there are no records and I need proof so that mean records. So Bev I do not think you can help me As there are no records for Ilchester that have survived Thank you very much for your reply and to all the others sincerely Jill -- Jill [ARNOLD] MORLEY O.P.C. [Genealogy] for the village- Winterbourne Kingston in Dorset, England http://www.opcdorset.org Project - Street Names of the Copper Coast – project Project- Port Adelaide Notes and Pictures of Past People ---- Bev Bonning <kosan@optusnet.com.au> wrote: ============= Jill Can you identify anything in the Somerset Archives catalogue that might be useful? When I find anything there, I use a super researcher to go and get copies for me. I don't know about Ilchester, but maybe Findmypast could help, or even The Genealogist. There are sometimes special deals for a month, 3 months membership. Those deals are often to be found in the LostCousins Newletters. Have you used them? Bev -----Original Message----- From: Jill [mailto:jillmorley@bigpond.com] Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014 4:34 PM To: Bev Bonning Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Ilchester parish records I don't live near a town and was hoping I could get the records online guess it is not a good county for records I think I am spoilt being a descendant from Dorset and their OPC is great some is Cornwall's I am a member of Ancestry and they have very little on Somerset also? very disappointing since I cant get to any other source So lining down under means to got to their records office take a few thousand dollars is the sufficient Jill -- Jill [ARNOLD] MORLEY O.P.C. [Genealogy] for the village- Winterbourne Kingston in Dorset, England http://www.opcdorset.org Project - Street Names of the Copper Coast – project Project- Port Adelaide Notes and Pictures of Past People ---- Bev Bonning <kosan@optusnet.com.au> wrote: ============= Jill Have you looked at what is available in filmed records from FamilySearch? Bishops Transcripts go back to 1594. If you are not close to a FamilySearch Family History Centre, you will find that many Family History Societies are licensed for films to be sent to for viewing. I have not found living 'down under' to be an insurmountable problem. When you say "too far from any civilization", what do you mean? Bev -----Original Message----- From: eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jill Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014 2:12 PM To: eng-somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Ilchester parish records I gave my reader away years ago because I thought I could get it all on disc or the internet So no point is getting fiche I live too far from any civilisation so no point ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you David This is exactly what I want to prove? But it seems I can't But I will not accept it because This ARNOLD family was born in or came from around Bagbere - Middleton now Milton Abbas - Puddletown- and Cheselborne in Dorset? I have all the wills in Cheselborne and area to say it is them But the USA people believe this ?X??X Because a man Mr Somerby said he found it all in Ilchester on 1870 yet there records are gone disappeared including the Bishops transcripts? He was paid to do this he was not a relation so my theory is that who was going to check it in 1870? he could write what ever he wanted and he did? They now use this a the given word. I was hoping records have come to light now - since it has been few years since I tried this before He said he disregard Dorset because it also mention Northover and as there was no Northover in Dorset the document it must have meant Somerset But there was a Northover in Dorset and a southover near Piddletown - Puddletown I have proof of this also I just about going to give up and just write and prove my own research I guess I am just vetting my frustration And hoping some old records have been found and put on the internet for me to find Thanks again Jill -- Jill [ARNOLD] MORLEY O.P.C. [Genealogy] for the village- Winterbourne Kingston in Dorset, England http://www.opcdorset.org Project - Street Names of the Copper Coast – project Project- Port Adelaide Notes and Pictures of Past People ---- David Hartley <drhartley@woolleymanor.co.uk> wrote: ============= In message <20140125205041.A0Y2E.56714.root@nschwwebs01p>, Jill <jillmorley@bigpond.com> writes >So far I can find no proof of any ARNOLD's in Ilchester or that part of >Somerset in the mid to late 1500s? yet everyone says on >familyserach.org that they were there I was not going to say this >because I might offend someone but it seems there are no records and >I need proof so that mean records. FreeREG shows Arnold baptisms at Ilchester in 1596 and 1635, so there definitely were some in the area. The source for the various online trees seems to be this book http://archive.org/stream/accountofenglish00arno/accountofenglish00arno_d jvu.txt It contains a copy of an account of his family alleged to have been written by William Arnold, an early settler in New England who came from Ilchester. His information is apparently corroborated by the Bishop's Transcripts for those periods where they exist. I'll leave it to you to decide how reliable it is. -- David Hartley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Jill, I have been watching all of the interest in Ilchester & you mention you would like wills if any. I would suggest that you get in touch with the Somerset Record Office & see if there are any wills for the period 1500 to 1600 for the county of Somerset with the name Arnold, I would not keep it just with Ilchester as there do not appear to be any parish records early 1500, so their records would be with another church. This would sought things out once & for all for you as if there are no wills research in this time frame is difficult. With the record office they sometimes have had people looking for probate & have lists already compiled. How far back have you taken your line already? There is such a lot of dodgy research out there you need to check everything. Good luck. Robyn -----Original Message----- From: Jill Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 6:50 AM To: Bev Bonning ; SOMERSET list Subject: [ENG-SOM] Ilchester parish records Thank you Bev What I am after is the Name ARNOLD in the Ilchester Register only NO OTHER I say this because people do not always read the email and waste their precious time sending advice that I have already look at or done I want to find the earliest ARNOLD records in area of Ilchester I also want to BUY their wills? if there is any or actual documents I do not want other Peoples research I do not want the info that the IGI has as most of it is sheep coping each other I want to do my own deductions my own research So far I can find no proof of any ARNOLD's in Ilchester or that part of Somerset in the mid to late 1500s? yet everyone says on familyserach.org that they were there I was not going to say this because I might offend someone but it seems there are no records and I need proof so that mean records. So Bev I do not think you can help me As there are no records for Ilchester that have survived Thank you very much for your reply and to all the others sincerely Jill -- Jill [ARNOLD] MORLEY O.P.C. [Genealogy] for the village- Winterbourne Kingston in Dorset, England http://www.opcdorset.org Project - Street Names of the Copper Coast – project Project- Port Adelaide Notes and Pictures of Past People ---- Bev Bonning <kosan@optusnet.com.au> wrote: ============= Jill Can you identify anything in the Somerset Archives catalogue that might be useful? When I find anything there, I use a super researcher to go and get copies for me. I don't know about Ilchester, but maybe Findmypast could help, or even The Genealogist. There are sometimes special deals for a month, 3 months membership. Those deals are often to be found in the LostCousins Newletters. Have you used them? Bev -----Original Message----- From: Jill [mailto:jillmorley@bigpond.com] Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014 4:34 PM To: Bev Bonning Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Ilchester parish records I don't live near a town and was hoping I could get the records online guess it is not a good county for records I think I am spoilt being a descendant from Dorset and their OPC is great some is Cornwall's I am a member of Ancestry and they have very little on Somerset also? very disappointing since I cant get to any other source So lining down under means to got to their records office take a few thousand dollars is the sufficient Jill -- Jill [ARNOLD] MORLEY O.P.C. [Genealogy] for the village- Winterbourne Kingston in Dorset, England http://www.opcdorset.org Project - Street Names of the Copper Coast – project Project- Port Adelaide Notes and Pictures of Past People ---- Bev Bonning <kosan@optusnet.com.au> wrote: ============= Jill Have you looked at what is available in filmed records from FamilySearch? Bishops Transcripts go back to 1594. If you are not close to a FamilySearch Family History Centre, you will find that many Family History Societies are licensed for films to be sent to for viewing. I have not found living 'down under' to be an insurmountable problem. When you say "too far from any civilization", what do you mean? Bev -----Original Message----- From: eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jill Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014 2:12 PM To: eng-somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Ilchester parish records I gave my reader away years ago because I thought I could get it all on disc or the internet So no point is getting fiche I live too far from any civilisation so no point ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi - Very much appreciated! This clarifies so much for me. Regards, Jenny On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 7:06 AM, elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com>wrote: > > Hi, this is Combe St Nicholas from the Somerset > Archives site........ > > Summary of holdings for Parish of 'Combe St Nicholas' > > Hundred Tithing Registration District > Areas Kingsbury East Combe St Nicholas Yeovil > Parish Registers Baptisms Marriages Burials > Start 1678 1678 1678 > End 1942 1984 1965 > Transcripts 1678-1942 1813-1924 1678-1965 > Monumental Inscriptions > Phillimore 14 1 1678-1812 > Dr Campbell's Index: Yes > Dwelly Transcripts Manuscript Printed > 13 1 > Union Workhouse Union Births Deaths > Chard 1848-1914 1848-1914 > Census 1841 1851 1861 1871 1881 1891 > Microfiche refs MC544 MC 935,936 MC 1270 MC 1599,1600 164 MC 95 > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jennifer Levine" <jplayer.levine19@gmail.com> > To: <ENG-SOMERSET@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 9:54 PM > Subject: [ENG-SOM] On the topic of Parish Records > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > As we seem to be on the topic of parish record today I wonder if anyone > > could shed some light on the availability or existence of baptism records > > for Combe St Nicholas. My dead end here is approximately 1800. The > > Marriage registers seem to be accessible but not the baptisms and burials > > for the late decades of 1700's and early two decades of 1800's. > > Were some of the parish records destroyed or just not filmed or > > transcribed? I am interested in information or detail about the records > > for this parish regarding any or all time periods. Any help is most > > welcome. > > > > My surnames for the parish of Combe St Nicholas are PLAYER and BETTY. > > Surnames in other areas of Somerset: St Decuman - PEPPIN and THORN > > Bishop's Hull and locale: CROCKER > > (Forever grateful to Martin Southwood & www.wsom.org.uk for these > > wonderful > > transcribed records!) > > > > All the best to everyone on the list. > > Regards, > > Jenny > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, This is very helpful - thanks so much. To tell the truth, I do find this site a little daunting to navigate. I was unable previously to locate this listing on my own but your reference code lead me directly to the information I was after. I will keep in mind your suggestions. Right now I am transcribing another parish but this will now be top of the list for the next project. Regards, Jenny Regards, Jenny On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 3:18 PM, David Hartley <drhartley@woolleymanor.co.uk > wrote: > In message > <CAJb4xevkaYDHHsHSM8AVN2Yh+06aZyWsqCoEb8hsaEhpvv0NOA@mail.gmail.com>, > Jennifer Levine <jplayer.levine19@gmail.com> writes > >As we seem to be on the topic of parish record today I wonder if anyone > >could shed some light on the availability or existence of baptism > >records for Combe St Nicholas. My dead end here is approximately 1800. > >The Marriage registers seem to be accessible but not the baptisms and > >burials for the late decades of 1700's and early two decades of 1800's. > > The Somerset RO catalogue is the first place to look for such questions. > > http://www1.somerset.gov.uk/archives/ > > Search for Combe St Nicholas Parish Records or for the reference > D\P\com.n/2/1 > > Click on the individual register references to get details of their > contents. > > The only gap in the first register appears to be 1718-1719, otherwise it > covers Baptisms and Burials 1678-1797. The second has them 1798-1812 and > the fifth and seventh 1813 onwards. > > It would seem the registers have just not been transcribed yet. They > have been filmed and you can view the microfilm at an LDS Family History > Centre or buy microfiche copies from the Somerset Heritage Centre. > > If you would lend the microfiches to FreeREG for transcription - or even > transcribe them for FreeREG yourself - then you could buy them through > us. We get a slightly better rate by buying large batches with a single > handling charge. > > -- > David Hartley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

yes I live out of the city but there is no such thing as Dial up any more in Aus as far as I know- I have broadband - but if the records are not online then I cant search them ? I was hoping that this list could guide me to what I am seeking but it seems there Ilchester records for the 11500 - 1600 do not exist Thankyou Jill -- Jill [ARNOLD] MORLEY O.P.C. [Genealogy] for the village- Winterbourne Kingston in Dorset, England http://www.opcdorset.org Project - Street Names of the Copper Coast – project Project- Port Adelaide Notes and Pictures of Past People ---- margaret pavljuk <dustycarina@yahoo.com.au> wrote: ============= id say Bev, she probably lives out of a capital city.   Only Capital citys seem to have the mormon churches. to do babtism sort of research. I use to live in the country, and there is nothing available to search in their libarys.  internet is usually very slow.  Dial up. Im in a city in Australia, and we only got rid of dial up 4 years ago, and went cable.  A lot more expensive, but everyone is happier...   Our Goverment is still fighting over the roll out of a national broadban Australia wide.  margaret. On Saturday, 25 January 2014 4:03 PM, Bev Bonning <kosan@optusnet.com.au> wrote: Jill Have you looked at what is available in filmed records from FamilySearch? Bishops Transcripts go back to 1594. If you are not close to a FamilySearch Family History Centre, you will find that many Family History Societies are licensed for films to be sent to for viewing. I have not found living 'down under' to be an insurmountable problem. When you say "too far from any civilization", what do you mean? Bev -----Original Message----- From: eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jill Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014 2:12 PM To: eng-somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Ilchester parish records I gave my reader away years ago because I thought I could get it all on disc or the internet So no point is getting fiche I live too far from any civilisation so no point ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Bev What I am after is the Name ARNOLD in the Ilchester Register only NO OTHER I say this because people do not always read the email and waste their precious time sending advice that I have already look at or done I want to find the earliest ARNOLD records in area of Ilchester I also want to BUY their wills? if there is any or actual documents I do not want other Peoples research I do not want the info that the IGI has as most of it is sheep coping each other I want to do my own deductions my own research So far I can find no proof of any ARNOLD's in Ilchester or that part of Somerset in the mid to late 1500s? yet everyone says on familyserach.org that they were there I was not going to say this because I might offend someone but it seems there are no records and I need proof so that mean records. So Bev I do not think you can help me As there are no records for Ilchester that have survived Thank you very much for your reply and to all the others sincerely Jill -- Jill [ARNOLD] MORLEY O.P.C. [Genealogy] for the village- Winterbourne Kingston in Dorset, England http://www.opcdorset.org Project - Street Names of the Copper Coast – project Project- Port Adelaide Notes and Pictures of Past People ---- Bev Bonning <kosan@optusnet.com.au> wrote: ============= Jill Can you identify anything in the Somerset Archives catalogue that might be useful? When I find anything there, I use a super researcher to go and get copies for me. I don't know about Ilchester, but maybe Findmypast could help, or even The Genealogist. There are sometimes special deals for a month, 3 months membership. Those deals are often to be found in the LostCousins Newletters. Have you used them? Bev -----Original Message----- From: Jill [mailto:jillmorley@bigpond.com] Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014 4:34 PM To: Bev Bonning Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Ilchester parish records I don't live near a town and was hoping I could get the records online guess it is not a good county for records I think I am spoilt being a descendant from Dorset and their OPC is great some is Cornwall's I am a member of Ancestry and they have very little on Somerset also? very disappointing since I cant get to any other source So lining down under means to got to their records office take a few thousand dollars is the sufficient Jill -- Jill [ARNOLD] MORLEY O.P.C. [Genealogy] for the village- Winterbourne Kingston in Dorset, England http://www.opcdorset.org Project - Street Names of the Copper Coast – project Project- Port Adelaide Notes and Pictures of Past People ---- Bev Bonning <kosan@optusnet.com.au> wrote: ============= Jill Have you looked at what is available in filmed records from FamilySearch? Bishops Transcripts go back to 1594. If you are not close to a FamilySearch Family History Centre, you will find that many Family History Societies are licensed for films to be sent to for viewing. I have not found living 'down under' to be an insurmountable problem. When you say "too far from any civilization", what do you mean? Bev -----Original Message----- From: eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jill Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014 2:12 PM To: eng-somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Ilchester parish records I gave my reader away years ago because I thought I could get it all on disc or the internet So no point is getting fiche I live too far from any civilisation so no point ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 25/01/2014 23:28, les wright wrote: > I would suggest that you get in touch with the > Somerset Record Office & see if there are any wills for the period 1500 to > 1600 for the county of Somerset with the name Arnold, I would not keep it > just with Ilchester as there do not appear to be any parish records early > 1500, so their records would be with another church. This would sought > things out once & for all for you as if there are no wills research in this > time frame is difficult. Where there are no parish registers, there may be other records such as Manorial Records. These are not online as far as I know but someone may know otherwise. None of my lines go back that far for ordinary folk. Parish registers started in 1538 and incumbents were instructed to keep them secure. It wasn't always successful. Time, weather and other Acts of God ably assisted by rodents and vandals have taken their toll. There were no such conditions on the Bishops Transcripts so they are even more haphazard. Somerset Wills were sent to Exeter for safety during the War. Some survive and there may be Office copies of any proved in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury. Those can be found on Ancestry. Best bet is to contact the Somerset Heritage Centre (formerly Somerset Record Office). They can advise what they hold and also suggest where else to look. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

On 25/01/2014 20:50, Jill wrote: > I do not want the info that the IGI has as most of it is sheep coping each other FamilySearch has separated the IGI and patron submissions from the actual extractions. What FamilySearch has in their main index is as trustworthy now as any other transcription. You have to do a bit of a hunt for the old IGI. That's why people are suggesting FamilySearch. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Devon and Somerset county councils are proposing to merge their heritage and museum services into a new Trust, see : http://www.devon.gov.uk/index/councildemocracy/record_office/heritage_trust. htm The Trustee briefing pack gives more detail: <http://www.devon.gov.uk/trust_pack-2.pdf> http://www.devon.gov.uk/trust_pack-2.pdf Mike

In message <CAJb4xevkaYDHHsHSM8AVN2Yh+06aZyWsqCoEb8hsaEhpvv0NOA@mail.gmail.com>, Jennifer Levine <jplayer.levine19@gmail.com> writes >As we seem to be on the topic of parish record today I wonder if anyone >could shed some light on the availability or existence of baptism >records for Combe St Nicholas. My dead end here is approximately 1800. >The Marriage registers seem to be accessible but not the baptisms and >burials for the late decades of 1700's and early two decades of 1800's. The Somerset RO catalogue is the first place to look for such questions. http://www1.somerset.gov.uk/archives/ Search for Combe St Nicholas Parish Records or for the reference D\P\com.n/2/1 Click on the individual register references to get details of their contents. The only gap in the first register appears to be 1718-1719, otherwise it covers Baptisms and Burials 1678-1797. The second has them 1798-1812 and the fifth and seventh 1813 onwards. It would seem the registers have just not been transcribed yet. They have been filmed and you can view the microfilm at an LDS Family History Centre or buy microfiche copies from the Somerset Heritage Centre. If you would lend the microfiches to FreeREG for transcription - or even transcribe them for FreeREG yourself - then you could buy them through us. We get a slightly better rate by buying large batches with a single handling charge. -- David Hartley