Hello Elizabeth Somerset Archives have a file entitled "Typescript history ofthe methodist church in Street byB Alvey". [1820-1993] I dont know if its relevant or not. Sarah -----Original Message----- From: CHRIS REAY via <eng-somerset@rootsweb.com> To: elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com>; ENG-SOMERSET <ENG-SOMERSET@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 22:28 Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Rev. Herbert Butler Cowl Hello Elizabeth, Thank you for your message. I have made several visits to the John Rylands Library in Manchester and yes this is a great place to go for any Methodist records. Unfortunately, they don't seem to have very much on Street. I'm not sure what I am looking for, but I was hoping that there would be some records or some information 'locally' on Street and / or the Wesleyan Church at that time in 1914. As for the Army Chaplain's Dept., there is not much that has survived but as I understand it, Kew do not hold any records on Army Chaplaincy. Rev. Frederick Bond COWL was Rev. Herbert Butler Cowl's father. Herbert is not on that list because he died later in 1971. The list date was cut-off earlier than this date. If you have any other thoughts on Street and my grandfather in 1914, please do come back to me. THANK YOU! Kind regards and best wishes, Sarah. On 16 October 2014 16:27, elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi, there are two potential sources of information apart > from local newspapers as yet undigitised , which are the Army Chaplains > dept which will be at the National Archives in Kew, and the Wesleyan > Methodist archives in the John Rylands Library in the Uni of > Manchester.............they have a complicated onlinie catalogue but > although there is a Rev Frederick B Cowl , d 1937, I could find no trace > of Herbert. It doesn`t mean he isn`t there of course. > > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- From: "CHRIS REAY via" < > eng-somerset@rootsweb.com> > To: <ENG-SOMERSET@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:39 AM > Subject: [SPAM] [ENG-SOM] New to the list & Rev. Herbert Butler Cowl query? > > > Hello List, >> >> I have recently signed on to this list in the hope of gaining and sharing >> knowledge. >> >> My query this morning relates to Street in Somerset. In the summer of >> 1914, my grandfather, Rev. Herbert Butler COWL moved to Street and became >> the local Wesleyan Methodist Minister. Then with the onset of the war, >> Herbert volunteered to become an Army Chaplain. He was accepted into the >> Royal Army Chaplain's Department and began life as an Army Chaplain on >> Christmas Eve 1914 and he left Street for Bordon Camp. >> >> So, my query is that I wonder if anyone on this list knows anything about >> my grandfather's time at Street? I have looked at local newspapers and >> found very little. I wonder if someone knows something about my >> grandfather or the Wesleyan Church in Street in 1914? >> >> I am researching and writing a book on the war experiences of my >> grandfather, 'The Half Shilling Curate'. He was one of the first >> Chaplains >> to be awarded the Military Cross for Gallantry. >> >> I shall look forward to hearing from you! Fingers crossed. >> >> Kind regards, Sarah in Northumberland. >> >> >> >> ps. I have subscribed to the Rootsweb Street list but no response as yet. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Elizabeth, Thank you for your message. I have made several visits to the John Rylands Library in Manchester and yes this is a great place to go for any Methodist records. Unfortunately, they don't seem to have very much on Street. I'm not sure what I am looking for, but I was hoping that there would be some records or some information 'locally' on Street and / or the Wesleyan Church at that time in 1914. As for the Army Chaplain's Dept., there is not much that has survived but as I understand it, Kew do not hold any records on Army Chaplaincy. Rev. Frederick Bond COWL was Rev. Herbert Butler Cowl's father. Herbert is not on that list because he died later in 1971. The list date was cut-off earlier than this date. If you have any other thoughts on Street and my grandfather in 1914, please do come back to me. THANK YOU! Kind regards and best wishes, Sarah. On 16 October 2014 16:27, elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi, there are two potential sources of information apart > from local newspapers as yet undigitised , which are the Army Chaplains > dept which will be at the National Archives in Kew, and the Wesleyan > Methodist archives in the John Rylands Library in the Uni of > Manchester.............they have a complicated onlinie catalogue but > although there is a Rev Frederick B Cowl , d 1937, I could find no trace > of Herbert. It doesn`t mean he isn`t there of course. > > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- From: "CHRIS REAY via" < > eng-somerset@rootsweb.com> > To: <ENG-SOMERSET@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:39 AM > Subject: [SPAM] [ENG-SOM] New to the list & Rev. Herbert Butler Cowl query? > > > Hello List, >> >> I have recently signed on to this list in the hope of gaining and sharing >> knowledge. >> >> My query this morning relates to Street in Somerset. In the summer of >> 1914, my grandfather, Rev. Herbert Butler COWL moved to Street and became >> the local Wesleyan Methodist Minister. Then with the onset of the war, >> Herbert volunteered to become an Army Chaplain. He was accepted into the >> Royal Army Chaplain's Department and began life as an Army Chaplain on >> Christmas Eve 1914 and he left Street for Bordon Camp. >> >> So, my query is that I wonder if anyone on this list knows anything about >> my grandfather's time at Street? I have looked at local newspapers and >> found very little. I wonder if someone knows something about my >> grandfather or the Wesleyan Church in Street in 1914? >> >> I am researching and writing a book on the war experiences of my >> grandfather, 'The Half Shilling Curate'. He was one of the first >> Chaplains >> to be awarded the Military Cross for Gallantry. >> >> I shall look forward to hearing from you! Fingers crossed. >> >> Kind regards, Sarah in Northumberland. >> >> >> >> ps. I have subscribed to the Rootsweb Street list but no response as yet. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >

Hi, there are two potential sources of information apart from local newspapers as yet undigitised , which are the Army Chaplains dept which will be at the National Archives in Kew, and the Wesleyan Methodist archives in the John Rylands Library in the Uni of Manchester.............they have a complicated onlinie catalogue but although there is a Rev Frederick B Cowl , d 1937, I could find no trace of Herbert. It doesn`t mean he isn`t there of course. life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "CHRIS REAY via" <eng-somerset@rootsweb.com> To: <ENG-SOMERSET@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:39 AM Subject: [SPAM] [ENG-SOM] New to the list & Rev. Herbert Butler Cowl query? > Hello List, > > I have recently signed on to this list in the hope of gaining and sharing > knowledge. > > My query this morning relates to Street in Somerset. In the summer of > 1914, my grandfather, Rev. Herbert Butler COWL moved to Street and became > the local Wesleyan Methodist Minister. Then with the onset of the war, > Herbert volunteered to become an Army Chaplain. He was accepted into the > Royal Army Chaplain's Department and began life as an Army Chaplain on > Christmas Eve 1914 and he left Street for Bordon Camp. > > So, my query is that I wonder if anyone on this list knows anything about > my grandfather's time at Street? I have looked at local newspapers and > found very little. I wonder if someone knows something about my > grandfather or the Wesleyan Church in Street in 1914? > > I am researching and writing a book on the war experiences of my > grandfather, 'The Half Shilling Curate'. He was one of the first > Chaplains > to be awarded the Military Cross for Gallantry. > > I shall look forward to hearing from you! Fingers crossed. > > Kind regards, Sarah in Northumberland. > > > > ps. I have subscribed to the Rootsweb Street list but no response as yet. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello List, I have recently signed on to this list in the hope of gaining and sharing knowledge. My query this morning relates to Street in Somerset. In the summer of 1914, my grandfather, Rev. Herbert Butler COWL moved to Street and became the local Wesleyan Methodist Minister. Then with the onset of the war, Herbert volunteered to become an Army Chaplain. He was accepted into the Royal Army Chaplain's Department and began life as an Army Chaplain on Christmas Eve 1914 and he left Street for Bordon Camp. So, my query is that I wonder if anyone on this list knows anything about my grandfather's time at Street? I have looked at local newspapers and found very little. I wonder if someone knows something about my grandfather or the Wesleyan Church in Street in 1914? I am researching and writing a book on the war experiences of my grandfather, 'The Half Shilling Curate'. He was one of the first Chaplains to be awarded the Military Cross for Gallantry. I shall look forward to hearing from you! Fingers crossed. Kind regards, Sarah in Northumberland. ps. I have subscribed to the Rootsweb Street list but no response as yet.

Hi,  I hope it's alright to post this here. If anyone is researching family history in Somerset or Dorset, there is a new Facebook group which has just been started by the Somerset & Dorset Family History Society - all welcome, whether members or not - https://www.facebook.com/groups/SDFHS/ Kind regards Liz Jones   Denman DNA Project - http://www.familytreedna.com/public/denman/default.aspx Denman One Name Study - http://www.one-name.org/profiles/denman.html   Welsman/Willsman DNA Project - www.familytreedna.com/public/Willsman Welsman/Willsman One Name Study - http://www.one-name.org/profiles/willsman.html

Hi, Thank you to everyone that has sent replies to my query on age help with my Porter family, lots of good ideas Lindsay

Lindsay, you must be careful about accepting other peoples trees as being accurate. Many people add "family lore" as facts without verifying their accuracy. You need to do your own research to find your ancestors. That's the fun of genealogy! Good luck, Kay > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 07:55:00 +1000 > From: "Lindsay Perry" <linzee21@tpg.com.au> > Subject: [ENG-SOM] Age Help > To: <ENG-SOMERSET@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000601cfdcf9$2f8c6050$8ea520f0$@tpg.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I have a tree that supposedly includes Samuel Porter (5x great grandfather) > born in 1682 and a wife Mary? born about the same time, both in the Pitcombe > area. > The next Generation I have is John Porter ( 4x Great grandfather) born in > 1753 but am I right in thinking I am missing a generation as it would make > Samuel and Mary far too old to be the parents of John. > I have checked other trees but they all seem to have this Samuel and Mary as > the parents of John and his siblings and depending on which tree you are > looking at it seems they had between 6-11 children, is this possible? Or can > someone find me another father for John please > > Thank You > Lindsay > >

Hi Lindsay I have found that sometimes a child that is born out of wedlock to one of the daughters is marked on the census as the son instead of the grandson. Kind regards Nikki On 1 October 2014 09:39, Jon via <eng-somerset@rootsweb.com> wrote: > As they were both 71 when John was born, I think that says it all! > > <G> > > Best wishes, Jon > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

As they were both 71 when John was born, I think that says it all! <G> Best wishes, Jon

Hi Lindsay. I have a man who married and had family , his wife Mary died and this 70 years old man married his nurse Mary and had 2 children . Was it the same Mary . Laurie -----Original Message----- From: eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lindsay Perry via Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2014 7:55 AM To: ENG-SOMERSET@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-SOM] Age Help I have a tree that supposedly includes Samuel Porter (5x great grandfather) born in 1682 and a wife Mary? born about the same time, both in the Pitcombe area. The next Generation I have is John Porter ( 4x Great grandfather) born in 1753 but am I right in thinking I am missing a generation as it would make Samuel and Mary far too old to be the parents of John.

I have a tree that supposedly includes Samuel Porter (5x great grandfather) born in 1682 and a wife Mary? born about the same time, both in the Pitcombe area. The next Generation I have is John Porter ( 4x Great grandfather) born in 1753 but am I right in thinking I am missing a generation as it would make Samuel and Mary far too old to be the parents of John. I have checked other trees but they all seem to have this Samuel and Mary as the parents of John and his siblings and depending on which tree you are looking at it seems they had between 6-11 children, is this possible? Or can someone find me another father for John please Thank You Lindsay

Thank you to David Hartley and Elizabeth Howard for their help with Richard Wright Goodall. I have now found his baptism, a brother and sister and the names of his parents. Lesley Abraham. Isle of Wight,. Today's Topics: 1. Richard Wright GOODALL. (elizabeth howard) 2. Re: Richard Wright GOODALL. (David Hartley) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 14:33:56 +0100 From: "elizabeth howard" <elizgh@btinternet.com> Subject: [ENG-SOM] Richard Wright GOODALL. To: <lesley@kitehillfarm.co.uk>, <eng-somerset@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <CC9BD800A7424F8EAFB862C028A6402C@max> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi , freereg has a bapt of Richard W Goodall on 17th Nov 1807 born 4th June at Walcot St Swithin, Bath, son of Thomas and Mary Goodall . They also had Martha in 1810 and William in 1811 but the latter was bapt at the Abbey. There are a number of references to the bankruptcy of Thomas Goodall of Birmingham , banker in 1803 and 1805 in the National Archives one mentions William Goodall , the younger both of Poultry, Bankers and partners. On Britishnewspaperarchive there are several mentions of Thomas Goodall, of Birmingham , banker , and in the same sentence Michael Goodall this is 1805 . Familysearch has a burial , non conformist, of a Thomas Goodall in Bathwick , Som, in 1827. life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley Abraham via" <eng-somerset@rootsweb.com> To: <ENG-SOMERSET@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 5:45 PM Subject: [ENG-SOM] Richard Wright GOODALL. > Hello List, > > > > Richard Wright GOODALL died at Maitland Hospital in New South Wales, > Australia in February 1870 aged 62 years. On his death certificate it > stated that he was born in Bath, England and that his father was a banker. > Richard married Elisheba BAZLEY in Okehampton in 1827, after becoming > bankrupt in 1835 in Birmingham, travelled to NSW just before the 1841 > census. Does he belong to anyone's tree? I would appreciate any info > regarding his birth in Bath. > > > > Lesley Abraham. > > > > Isle of Wight. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 15:10:26 +0100 From: David Hartley <drhartley@woolleymanor.co.uk> Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Richard Wright GOODALL. To: eng-somerset@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <su84hjCSbBKUFwMf@woolleymanor.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed In message <CC9BD800A7424F8EAFB862C028A6402C@max>, elizabeth howard via <eng-somerset@rootsweb.com> writes >Familysearch has a burial , non conformist, of a Thomas Goodall in >Bathwick , Som, in 1827. Unfortunately that Thomas was aged 35 and so too young to be Richard's father. (FreeREG has two entries for the event, one giving age 35, the other 55. They are from different sources, the burial register and the burial ground accounts book. Images of the originals can be viewed via Ancestry and both actually have the age as 35.) -- David Hartley ------------------------------ To contact the ENG-SOMERSET list administrator, send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the ENG-SOMERSET mailing list, send an email to ENG-SOMERSET@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of ENG-SOMERSET Digest, Vol 9, Issue 79 *******************************************

In message <CC9BD800A7424F8EAFB862C028A6402C@max>, elizabeth howard via <eng-somerset@rootsweb.com> writes >Familysearch has a burial , non conformist, of a Thomas Goodall in >Bathwick , Som, in 1827. Unfortunately that Thomas was aged 35 and so too young to be Richard's father. (FreeREG has two entries for the event, one giving age 35, the other 55. They are from different sources, the burial register and the burial ground accounts book. Images of the originals can be viewed via Ancestry and both actually have the age as 35.) -- David Hartley

Hi , freereg has a bapt of Richard W Goodall on 17th Nov 1807 born 4th June at Walcot St Swithin, Bath, son of Thomas and Mary Goodall . They also had Martha in 1810 and William in 1811 but the latter was bapt at the Abbey. There are a number of references to the bankruptcy of Thomas Goodall of Birmingham , banker in 1803 and 1805 in the National Archives one mentions William Goodall , the younger both of Poultry, Bankers and partners. On Britishnewspaperarchive there are several mentions of Thomas Goodall, of Birmingham , banker , and in the same sentence Michael Goodall this is 1805 . Familysearch has a burial , non conformist, of a Thomas Goodall in Bathwick , Som, in 1827. life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley Abraham via" <eng-somerset@rootsweb.com> To: <ENG-SOMERSET@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 5:45 PM Subject: [ENG-SOM] Richard Wright GOODALL. > Hello List, > > > > Richard Wright GOODALL died at Maitland Hospital in New South Wales, > Australia in February 1870 aged 62 years. On his death certificate it > stated that he was born in Bath, England and that his father was a banker. > Richard married Elisheba BAZLEY in Okehampton in 1827, after becoming > bankrupt in 1835 in Birmingham, travelled to NSW just before the 1841 > census. Does he belong to anyone's tree? I would appreciate any info > regarding his birth in Bath. > > > > Lesley Abraham. > > > > Isle of Wight. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Lesley FreeREG has good coverage of the Bath area. This looks like his baptism. http://tinyurl.com/nma9nw3 -- David Hartley

Hello List, Richard Wright GOODALL died at Maitland Hospital in New South Wales, Australia in February 1870 aged 62 years. On his death certificate it stated that he was born in Bath, England and that his father was a banker. Richard married Elisheba BAZLEY in Okehampton in 1827, after becoming bankrupt in 1835 in Birmingham, travelled to NSW just before the 1841 census. Does he belong to anyone's tree? I would appreciate any info regarding his birth in Bath. Lesley Abraham. Isle of Wight.

Hello List, According to the Pigot & Co Directory of 1830, Margaret BAZLEY was a school mistress of a boarding school at 5 Sion Place, Bath. Can anyone advise me of any websites etc where I can find out a bit more about her stay in Bath, when she arrived there etc? She was born in Okehampton, Devon in 1794. In 1832 she moved to Salisbury to the Godolphin Ladies School. Lesley Abraham Isle of Wight.

Just want to say, well done Martin, and thank you for the time and effort you put into doing these transcriptions. Without you and others like you, we would not have the great access to records that we have today. Cheers Jan, in sunny QLD. Australia -----Original Message----- From: Martin Southwood via Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 6:30 AM To: eng-somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-SOM] More update Evening all, As a bit of light relief from transcribing gravestones, I've updated www.wsom.org.uk with Taunton St. Mary Mag Baptisms back to 1690 and Burials back to 1790. Cheers, Martin Southwood

Evening all, As a bit of light relief from transcribing gravestones, I've updated www.wsom.org.uk with Taunton St. Mary Mag Baptisms back to 1690 and Burials back to 1790. Cheers, Martin Southwood --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hi, I find the British Newspaper Archives excellent, they can be found on Find My Past and at their own website http://www.britishnewspaperarchives.co.uk Best wishes, Jon