Hi Vivien, Thanks for your response. I will chase up that book it sounds as though it will be really insightful. Re the census, som kind soul on the list has sent me the 1841 census images which are wonderful. Thanks again Cheers Rob -----Original Message----- From: eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Vivien Rice Sent: Friday, 11 April 2008 9:09 AM To: eng-somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Pinkstone family from North Petherton, somerset Rob Flynn wrote: > I would love to learn more about this PINKSTONE family and their life in > North Petherton. Has anyone been researching them or come across them? Any > advice on how from this distance I might research George's time as Minister > of the Congregational Church? There is a small book called "My Ancestors Were Congregationalists in England and Wales" which may give you some useful background information. I know that it is available from Gould Books in Adelaide http://www.gould.com.au/ Have you seen the 1841 census, which shows that George was not born in Somerset? I have a copy if you need it. Vivien ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Rob - if you don't have them in the 1841 census this looks like your folk: North Petherton, Dobins George PINKSTONE 37 Minister. Not born in county Betsy 28 Albert 7 Emily 4 Richard 3 Thirsa 1 Betsy and children listed as born in county. IGI has a marriage in 1833 of a George PINKSTONE and Betsey Helen HEARN in Banbury, Oxford. Looking around on the IGI it seems the name may well be a Devon name and there is a possible match for George (and William) in births in Tiverton. Also a William in the 1861 census with birthplace Tiverton, but not living in Nottinghill - occupation retired grocer, does this match with what you have?. Hope some of this is useful, apologies if you have this already. Best wishes, Patsy - New Zealand Subject: [ENG-SOM] Pinkstone family from North Petherton, somerset > Hello all, > > ><snip> > My ancestor was Rev George PINKSTONE who was a Congregational Minister in > North Petherton. He was born about 1803. I also know that he had only > one > brother whose name was William PINKSTONE and who died at his residence in > Nottinghill, London on 1 December 1863 aged 69. My ancestor George > migrated > to Adelaide South Australia aboard the Ship Royal Sovereign which sailed > from Plymouth on 17 February 1849. George PINKSTONE brought his wife > (Helen, I think) and his seven children including my great, great, > grandfather Edmund PINKSTONE. > I would love to learn more about this PINKSTONE family and their life in > North Petherton. Has anyone been researching them or come across them? > Any > advice on how from this distance I might research George's time as > Minister > of the Congregational Church? Any thoughts or advice would be very > welcome. > Sincerely > Rob Flynn
GDAY:) Am in a real dilemna with this George HANCOCK, Born circa 1816 in Milverton Somerset, according to Censuses, but CANNOT find his baptism there at all we think his Parents are GEORGE HANCOCK and MARY PARSONS(Nee COOMBES), They were listed as widower and widow in a Marriage in Milverton Somerset in 1812 Several of this Hancock Descendants thru George Hancock who Married eliza CRIDDLE do have a middle name of COOMBES, so we thinking we on right track that George Born circa 1816 was indeed the Son of GEORGE HANCOCK and MARY PARSONS(Nee COOMBES) BUttttt We have yet to find a Baptism for this George We are looking perhaps at this a GEORGE HANCOCK born 1748 In Milverton Parents GEORGE HANCOCK and SARAH ROSSITER, Maybe the George who Married MARY PARSONS(COOMBES) We found a George Died in Milverton in 1829 Aged 81, so we thinking is the GEORGE born 1748 Butttttt we can find no First Marriage at all for the GEORGE HANCOCK who was a widower in 1812 when he married Mary Not impossible for him to have a child at 64 we think Sooooo where is our george baptised???thats our dilemna Sooooo Any Hancock researchers out there and im sure there are a Few , hoping u or anyone else can help us with this Pulling out our grey Hairs*G* with this one lol Thanks Regarss Cathy:) --------------------------------- Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address.
Hi Charani, thanks for the reply. Do you have a link to your site? If it is ok with you I'd like to use it to check any queries I have with surnames. Debbie McKay Sth Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charani" <familyhunter@family-hunter.co.uk> To: <eng-somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 2:13 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Lots and lots of stone cutters > Debbie McKay wrote: > >> Hi guys, just a general query, I'm transcribing the 1841 Census for >> Hundred of Whitley for FreeCEN and I'm currently transcibing >> Walton. Lots and lots of men are stone cutters (as opposed to only >> a few in other townships/villages). Was there a quarry in the area? >> Just wondering, it has peaked my curiosity > > Yes, there was. It was blue lias that was quarried. > > I've already transcribed the 1841 census for Walton. > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Debbie McKay wrote: > Yes please Charani, > In Enumeration District 15 > Pg 10 > folio 23 > Living with Richard and Hannah Dyer is a Richard ? Farmer born in Somerset > Could you work out his surname, it looks like Liry, but that doesn't seem > right. He's Robert LING, 28, Farmer, born in county -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk
Sorry Patsy, sent my message to you instead of the List and Rob. Cheers Dallas -----Original Message----- From: Patricia O'Shea [mailto:pkoshea@xtra.co.nz] Sent: Friday, 11 April 2008 8:50 AM To: eng-somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Pinkstone family from North Petherton, somerset Hi Rob - if you don't have them in the 1841 census this looks like your folk: North Petherton, Dobins George PINKSTONE 37 Minister. Not born in county Betsy 28 Albert 7 Emily 4 Richard 3 Thirsa 1 Betsy and children listed as born in county. IGI has a marriage in 1833 of a George PINKSTONE and Betsey Helen HEARN in Banbury, Oxford. Looking around on the IGI it seems the name may well be a Devon name and there is a possible match for George (and William) in births in Tiverton. Also a William in the 1861 census with birthplace Tiverton, but not living in Nottinghill - occupation retired grocer, does this match with what you have?. Hope some of this is useful, apologies if you have this already. Best wishes, Patsy - New Zealand Subject: [ENG-SOM] Pinkstone family from North Petherton, somerset > Hello all, > > ><snip> > My ancestor was Rev George PINKSTONE who was a Congregational Minister in > North Petherton. He was born about 1803. I also know that he had only > one > brother whose name was William PINKSTONE and who died at his residence in > Nottinghill, London on 1 December 1863 aged 69. My ancestor George > migrated > to Adelaide South Australia aboard the Ship Royal Sovereign which sailed > from Plymouth on 17 February 1849. George PINKSTONE brought his wife > (Helen, I think) and his seven children including my great, great, > grandfather Edmund PINKSTONE. > I would love to learn more about this PINKSTONE family and their life in > North Petherton. Has anyone been researching them or come across them? > Any > advice on how from this distance I might research George's time as > Minister > of the Congregational Church? Any thoughts or advice would be very > welcome. > Sincerely > Rob Flynn ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Rob, I found what could be your William in 1851 and 1861 living in St Johns Kensington London. I will send the images offlist. Cheers Dallas 1851 England Census Name: William Pinkstone Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Grace Gender: Male Where born: Huntsham, Devon, England Civil Parish: Kensington Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Middlesex Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: Kensington Town ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 268 Household Members: Name Age Grace Pinkstone 42 William Pinkstone 51 Charlotte M A Spratt 17 1861 England Census Name: William Pinkstone Age: 61 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Grace Gender: Male Where born: Devon, England Civil Parish: Kensington St Mary Abbott Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Kensington County/Island: Middlesex Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: Kensington Town ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 548 Household Members: Name Age John Cassin 16 Grace Pinkstone 52 William Pinkstone 61 Richard Thrift 22 -----Original Message----- From: Patricia O'Shea [mailto:pkoshea@xtra.co.nz] Sent: Friday, 11 April 2008 8:50 AM To: eng-somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Pinkstone family from North Petherton, somerset Hi Rob - if you don't have them in the 1841 census this looks like your folk: North Petherton, Dobins George PINKSTONE 37 Minister. Not born in county Betsy 28 Albert 7 Emily 4 Richard 3 Thirsa 1 Betsy and children listed as born in county. IGI has a marriage in 1833 of a George PINKSTONE and Betsey Helen HEARN in Banbury, Oxford. Looking around on the IGI it seems the name may well be a Devon name and there is a possible match for George (and William) in births in Tiverton. Also a William in the 1861 census with birthplace Tiverton, but not living in Nottinghill - occupation retired grocer, does this match with what you have?. Hope some of this is useful, apologies if you have this already. Best wishes, Patsy - New Zealand Subject: [ENG-SOM] Pinkstone family from North Petherton, somerset > Hello all, > > ><snip> > My ancestor was Rev George PINKSTONE who was a Congregational Minister in > North Petherton. He was born about 1803. I also know that he had only > one > brother whose name was William PINKSTONE and who died at his residence in > Nottinghill, London on 1 December 1863 aged 69. My ancestor George > migrated > to Adelaide South Australia aboard the Ship Royal Sovereign which sailed > from Plymouth on 17 February 1849. George PINKSTONE brought his wife > (Helen, I think) and his seven children including my great, great, > grandfather Edmund PINKSTONE. > I would love to learn more about this PINKSTONE family and their life in > North Petherton. Has anyone been researching them or come across them? > Any > advice on how from this distance I might research George's time as > Minister > of the Congregational Church? Any thoughts or advice would be very > welcome. > Sincerely > Rob Flynn ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Rob Flynn wrote: > I would love to learn more about this PINKSTONE family and their life in > North Petherton. Has anyone been researching them or come across them? Any > advice on how from this distance I might research George's time as Minister > of the Congregational Church? There is a small book called "My Ancestors Were Congregationalists in England and Wales" which may give you some useful background information. I know that it is available from Gould Books in Adelaide http://www.gould.com.au/ Have you seen the 1841 census, which shows that George was not born in Somerset? I have a copy if you need it. Vivien
Debbie McKay wrote: > Hi Charani, thanks for the reply. Do you have a link to your site? If it is > ok with you I'd like to use it to check any queries I have with surnames. It's not online at the moment, but give me a shout with any queries you have and I can tell you what it should be - providing I could read it myself!! There are a handful of names on all the censuses that I couldn't read. Usually they are people who moved into the village rather than being long term residents. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sanersti Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.som.general/12834.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Craig, Its ok, nobody tends to make sense at 4am :P It gets quite confusing even in the middle of the day, my durstons had a bad habit of using the same names an awful lot! Thomas and Winifred had children named George, Elizabeth, Sarah-ann, Charles & Sidney. Sidney married an Elizabeth and had children called George, Charles & Sarah-ann. I have read through some of your other posts and I can see that you have done a lot more research into the durstons than I have yet, so you probably already knew all of that! We are still Durstons - or rather I became a durston when I married my husband - and with a high male to female birth ratio, the durston name is not going to fade away anytime soon. If there is anything I can help with don't hesitate to ask. Renee Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rocke87 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.som.general/12834.3.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Renee mmmm just reading back over no i wasnt and to tell the truth i dont know what the heck i was talking about maybe i shouldnt make comments like that at 4am. those names are in australia though in the time frame but i doubt that they are thomas and winifred's Craig Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BrianQDG6476 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.som.general/12877.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Douglas I think I am going to upset you again unintentially ! If a person decides to get married, and that person is under 21 years of age, they need to get permission from the parent to allow it. This would be stated on the Certificate. If that person lied about his/her birth (ie under age and without parental permission) that marriage would/could be classed as void ! On the marriage Cert, they have two choices on status. Batchelor or Widower for the man, and Spinster or Widow for the female. On the marriage Cert, if the father is deceased, it would have to say so. On every Cert there is a caution. "There are offences relating to falsifying a Certificate and using or possessing a false Certificate" Your thoughts ? Brian Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BrianQDG6476 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.som.general/12877.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Douglas I think I am going to upset you again unintentially ! If a person decides to get married, and that person is under 21 years of age, they need to get permission from the parent to allow it. This would be stated on the Certificate. If that person lied about his/her birth (ie under age and without parental permission) that marriage would/could be classed as void ! On the marriage Cert, they have two choices on status. Batchelor or Widower for the man, and Spinster or Widow for the female. On the marriage Cert, if the father is deceased, it would have to say so. On every Cert there is a caution. "There are offences relating to falsifying a Certificate and using or possessing a false Certificate" Your thoughts ? Brian Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sanersti Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.som.general/12834.3.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Craig, Yes my Sidney Thomas And Elizabeth are the ones that came to Australia, but I can be of no help with any of the other names. I'm just curious though, you say that you think that all of thomas and winifreds children came to Australia, are you referring to Charles, George and Sarah-ann that came at the same time as Sidney & Elizabeth? Renee Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Hello all, I am a new member to this list. I am hoping to get some leads or information on one line of my ancestors who migrated to South Australia from North Petherton in Somerset. I live in New South Wales, Australia and am so unfamiliar with the geography of England that I had to search a map to fin North Petherton! My ancestor was Rev George PINKSTONE who was a Congregational Minister in North Petherton. He was born about 1803. I also know that he had only one brother whose name was William PINKSTONE and who died at his residence in Nottinghill, London on 1 December 1863 aged 69. My ancestor George migrated to Adelaide South Australia aboard the Ship Royal Sovereign which sailed from Plymouth on 17 February 1849. George PINKSTONE brought his wife (Helen, I think) and his seven children including my great, great, grandfather Edmund PINKSTONE. I would love to learn more about this PINKSTONE family and their life in North Petherton. Has anyone been researching them or come across them? Any advice on how from this distance I might research George's time as Minister of the Congregational Church? Any thoughts or advice would be very welcome. Sincerely Rob Flynn
Hi guys, just a general query, I'm transcribing the 1841 Census for Hundred of Whitley for FreeCEN and I'm currently transcibing Walton. Lots and lots of men are stone cutters (as opposed to only a few in other townships/villages). Was there a quarry in the area? Just wondering, it has peaked my curiosity Debbie McKay Sth Australia
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DouglasBeddie55 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.som.general/12877.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Brian At first I was of the same thoughts but I obtained the marriage cert. from GRO and all the information matches. His father was named John TOOSE, his occupation was a Poulterer. Alfreds occupation was a Carpenter. All that matches except his age. The cert says 23, infact he was born in 1872 and would have only been 20, and his father was deceased by 1892 but the cert. does not say that. The second cert. of 1897 in the District of Pontypool tells me that he is a BACHELOR aged 26, a carpenter and his father named John TOOSE (deceased) but his occupation is given as a carpenter too, which is actually incorrect. I am now convinced that they are the same person. I just wondered what happended to Amorah. There does not appear to have been any children. She may have died in childbirth, but I can find no trace. The second marriage bore 10 children. Thanks again for your interest regards Douglas Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BrianQDG6476 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.som.general/12877.3.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Douglas, To be honest, I am not convinced that Alfred had re-married. Perhaps there are two Alfreds ? In the 1897 Marriage, his name is down as just Alfred with the name William missing ! Did the Marriage Cert (1897) have him down as Widower ? The names on the Web-site I gave you, had NO previous Family in it. Sorry for keeping on. Brian Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Debbie McKay wrote: > Hi guys, just a general query, I'm transcribing the 1841 Census for > Hundred of Whitley for FreeCEN and I'm currently transcibing > Walton. Lots and lots of men are stone cutters (as opposed to only > a few in other townships/villages). Was there a quarry in the area? > Just wondering, it has peaked my curiosity Yes, there was. It was blue lias that was quarried. I've already transcribed the 1841 census for Walton. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DouglasBeddie55 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.som.general/12877.3.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for looking too Brian. This one is going to slip the net I think. I presume that she was known as something else and used her "Sunday" name for the marriage cert. Since Alfred re-married in 1897 I thought Amorah may have died between 1892 and 1897, but alas I still can't find anything. all the best Douglas Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.