Celia, Thank you very much, I hadn't thought of looking for a ship or anything. My mind is boggling at census and bmd. I will look straight away. Thank you for taking the time to look and help me. Hils > If you look at the www.somerset.gov.uk/archives/ website and click on > "Search Catalogues and Indexes" in the left-hand menu, there is a > searchable index to the Bridgwater Shipping Crew Lists. (The > Somerset Record office has the Bridgwater Port shipping registers > [1786-1906] - ref. DD\RSH) > > The index shows Thomas SYMES on the "Ryl Forester" in: > 1863 age 62 > 1864 age 63 > 1866 age 65 > 1867 age 66 > 1868 age 68 > 1869 age 67 > > There are also two younger SYMES listed for other ships. > > If you google a bit, you will find various references to the > (presumably) "Royal Forester" which appears to have traded between > Bridgwater and Cardiff. > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ShippingLists.html lists Thos. > SYMES as master of the coastal ship the "Taunton" sailing to Bristol > in 1830 (Pigots Directory). > > So you may find him further afield (simply away at sea) in the other > census, > Celia > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

If you look at the www.somerset.gov.uk/archives/ website and click on "Search Catalogues and Indexes" in the left-hand menu, there is a searchable index to the Bridgwater Shipping Crew Lists. (The Somerset Record office has the Bridgwater Port shipping registers [1786-1906] - ref. DD\RSH) The index shows Thomas SYMES on the "Ryl Forester" in: 1863 age 62 1864 age 63 1866 age 65 1867 age 66 1868 age 68 1869 age 67 There are also two younger SYMES listed for other ships. If you google a bit, you will find various references to the (presumably) "Royal Forester" which appears to have traded between Bridgwater and Cardiff. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ShippingLists.html lists Thos. SYMES as master of the coastal ship the "Taunton" sailing to Bristol in 1830 (Pigots Directory). So you may find him further afield (simply away at sea) in the other census, Celia

I am seeking to make contact, and to share family history information, with any relation or researcher of the family of my cousin, Augusta White RUMSEY, who married Robert Kilmister MELSOME, farmer. Robert Kilmister MELSOME, a son of George William MELSOME, yeoman, and Elizabeth, his wife, was born about 1839 in Oaksey, Wilts. Augusta White RUMSEY, daughter of William White RUMSEY, yeoman, and Ann BUTT, was baptized in West Knoyle on October 18th., 1835. On September 23rd., 1862, in Warminster Christ Church, Robert Kilmister MELSOME married Augusta White RUMSEY. Robert and Augusta farmed in Norton Bavant, Wilts; and, after about 1866, in 830 acres in Manor Farm in Compton Pauncefoot, Somerset; they were there for the 1871 and 1881 censuses. In the 1891 census, Robert 51was an agent for manure etc. in Sutton Veny, Wilts; for the 1901 census, Robert was a corn and cake agent, living in Sutton Veny, Wilts, with wife Augusta and daughters Blanche and Winifred. Robert 69 died in Warminster in Q1 of 1909; Augusta died a widow in 1925 at Alma Cottage, Church Street, Warminster. Robert and Augusta had issue: a) Walter William Melsome, b. c1863 and baptized on October 29th., 1863 (BVRI-2) in Norton Bavant, Wilts b) Beatrice Sybil Melsome, b. c1864 in Norton Bavant, Wilts; a Beatrice Sybil Melsome was married in Eastborne district in Q1 of 1903; c) Alice Maude Melsome, b. 1865 in Norton Bavant, Wilts, birth registered in Warminster in Q4 of 1865; an Alice Maude Melsome was married in Marylebone, London, in Q3 of 1909; d) Edith Mary Melsome, b. 1867 in Norton Bavant, Wilts, birth registered in Warminster in Q2 of 1867; e) Florence Amy Melsome, b. c1868 in Compton Pauncefoot, Som., birth registered in Wincanton in Q1 of 1869; a Florence A. Melsome was married in Stroud district in Q2 of 1911; f) Adeline Blanche Melsome, b. 1870 in Compton Pauncefoot, Som., birth registered in Wincanton in Q2 of 1870; g) Winifred Rosalie Melsome, b. c1871 in Compton Pauncefoot, Som.; birth registered in Wincanton in Q4 of 1871 (BMD ref: 5c / 498); h) Robert Rumsey Melsome, born c1875 in Compton Pauncefoot, Som.; birth registered in Wincanton in Q2 of 1875 (BMD ref: 5c / 491); Robert Rumsey Melsome 17 died in the Isle of Wight in Q2 of 1892. Best wishes. Peter Ferreira Toronto, Canada.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: maheather1 Surnames: Phillips, Cousins & Aplin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.som.general/12838.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: mikemorris5_1 I am a direct descendant of James Phillips and Jane Cousins through one of their sons, Philip,who farmed near Axminster, Devon during first half of nineteenth century.Philip married Mary Aplin at Thurlber in 1809. I am descended from both their eldest son, James, b Axminster, 1810 and youngest son, Samuel, b Axminster, 1822. A large number of their descendants moved to Sussex, mainly between 1896 and 1933, and farmed there, although the family has now virtually died out as active farmers. I can only think of one being left. Immediately after the 1939-45 war there were over a dozen Phillips' farming in Sussex all descended from the aforementioned James and Samuel.Sorry but can't help with the birthplace of James from Thurlbear.Would be intersted to know myself. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: davidmagl14 Surnames: Treat, Trott Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.som.general/12864.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: . . My name is David Treat (Colorado-USA)... my oldest known relative is said to have been John Trott who was born in 1458 at Taunton Manor, Staplegrove, Somerset, England. Several generations later a Richard Trott (1584-1670) changed his name to Treat when he immigrated to America. Here is what I know: 1. John Trott (1458-1479) born in Taunton Manor, Staplegrove, Somerset, England whos son was: 2. William Trott (1480-1571) born in Staplegrove, Somerset, England whos son was: 3. Richard Trott (1508-1571) born in Staplegrove, Somerset, England whos son was: 4. Robert Trott (1538-1599) born in Pitminster, Somerset, England whos son was: 5. Richard Trott/Treat (1584-1670) born in Pitminster, Somerset, England... died in Wethersfield, Hartford, Connecticut Richard changed his name to Treat after his immigration to America. His son was: 6. Richard Trott/Treat (1623-1693) born in Pitminster, Somerset, England... died in Glastonburg, Connecticut whos son was: 7. Thomas Treat (1668-1712) born in Wethersfield, Hartford, Connecticut whos son was: 8. Richard Treat (1694-1759) born in Glastonbury, Connecticut whos son was: 9. Timothy Treat (1731-1776) born in Connecticut... died in Canada whos son was: 10. Ebenezer Treat (1771-1852) born in Lenox, Berkshire, Massachusetts... died in New York whos son was: 11. Ebenezer Hamlin Treat (1808-1867) born in Mendon, NY... died in Turtle Rock Co., Wisconsin whos son was: 12. William M. Treat (1833-1900) born in Mendon, NY... died in Doniphan, Nebraska whos son was: 13. Ebenezer Hamlin Treat (1867-1960) born near Clinton, WI... died in Colby, Kansas whos son was: 14. William Jasper Treat (1901-1981) born in Doniphan, Nebraska... died in Gem, Kansas whos son is: 15. Earl Harlan Treat (born 1942) born in Colby, Kansas... living in Bellvue, Colorado whos son is: 16. David Warren Treat (born 1967)... that's me. Are you related? David W. Treat Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SandraWilliamson13 Surnames: Lovell, Field Classification: biography Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.som.general/12867.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Dave, My Lovell family were from Acton, Middlesex, and not from Compton Martin, Somerset, England as I had originally thought. When I began my research I had the parents of my Francis Lovell - William Lovell and Mary. With nothing much more to go on I did a search in the census' and found a William and Mary Lovell in Compton Martin, Somerset, England. I decided to follow through on this line and in doing so found a whole clan of Lovell's living in the area but as I was to find out soon enough they weren't mine. Francis Lovell my direct connection to the family was nowhere to be found and far more elusive. Later I discovered that this was because I had unfortunately chosen the wrong family. The William and Mary I was looking for can be found in the Middlesex area of England(See below). I would like to thank you for responding to my original query about the Lovell's that I thought were mine, what I find of most value in your reply is the way you have set out your approach to the research and the methodology that you used. It is not how I had originally approached the problem but it has given me an excellent template to follow up on. I have used the IGI and Ancestry.com extensively but I haven't used the LDS catalog before so you have opened up the many possibilities for me in terms of research strategies - it almost feels as though I have a private tutoring session. Thanks once again, Sandra William Lovell born about 1806 in Chalfont, Buckinghamshire, England and died: Jan Q 1870 - Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, England, United Kingdom 1841 Census East Acton, Middlesex, England, United Kingdom. ( HO107; Piece 687; Book: 2; Civil Parish: Acton; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 4; Folio: 22; Page: 11) 1. William Lovell, 40, Carman 2. Mary Lovell, 40 3. Ann Lovell, 15 4. William Lovell, 15 5. Francis Lovell, 13 6. Mary Lovell, 7 7. Sarah Borall 70 1851 Census ( HO107; Piece: 1699; Folio: 637; Page: 19) East Acton, Middlesex, England, United Kingdom. 1. William Lovell, head, married, 56, A??ing Laundry 2. Mary Lovell, wife, mar, 54, Laundress 3. Frank Lovell, son U, 23, Apresting lab 4. Mary Lovell, daughter, U, 17, Laundress 3. He appeared on the census in 1871 in Kensington Workhouse, Kensington, London, England, United Kingdom. (6) William was an inmate, his occupation was labourer. William Lovell married Mary Field (Abt 1797 - Jul Q 1874) in 1823 - Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England, United Kingdom and they had four children that I know of:- 1. Ann Lovell (Abt 1826- ) 2. William Lovell (Abt 1826- ) 3. Francis Lovell (Abt 1829- ) 4. Mary Lovell (Abt 1834- ) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Marion & Robert Thank you, now I look at the cert it definitely looks like it. They had to squeeze it in. I truly didn't expect you to look, you are very kind. I would never of thought of mariner. Hope I can return the favour one day. Hils

Hi Hilary Took a bit of searching but here he is in 1861 RG 9/1625 Page 3 folio 5 Eastover, Bridgwater Thos SYMES, head, Mar, 60, Mariner, born Sormerset Bridgwater Sarah ", wife, mar, 61, ditto wife, ditto Betsy ", Daur, Un, 38, Boot binder, ditto Ann ", Daur, Un, 24, Boot binder, ditto Grace ", Daur Law, W, born Cornwall Penzance Thomas ", grandson, 1, born Bridgwater Mary J BEGGS, granddau, Un, 13, scholar, ditto Eliza J MUNDY, ditto, 9, ditto (scholar), ditto Marion

MARINER perhaps On 27/04/2008, hilaryflynn@blueyonder.co.uk <hilaryflynn@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > To Marion and Robert > > Thank you sooo much and so quick too. I've been chasing Thomas Symes for > ages. I originall went down the wromg track. His daughter Eliza married > Edwin Mundy in 1852. On their marriage cert it says "master something" and > I cannot decifer. My system has been playing up a bit(or I'm doing > something wrong- probably) and I cant find him in 1861 on 1851 he's not > listed with the rest of family. Oh well will keep trying to find him 1861. > Thanks so much > Hils > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Robert Alun Chick Penarth GFHS 7007

To Marion and Robert Thank you sooo much and so quick too. I've been chasing Thomas Symes for ages. I originall went down the wromg track. His daughter Eliza married Edwin Mundy in 1852. On their marriage cert it says "master something" and I cannot decifer. My system has been playing up a bit(or I'm doing something wrong- probably) and I cant find him in 1861 on 1851 he's not listed with the rest of family. Oh well will keep trying to find him 1861. Thanks so much Hils

Hi Hilary It is "Sea Man", written as two words. Marion 2008/4/27 <hilaryflynn@blueyonder.co.uk>: > Dear Listers, > > Could some kind soul please look up the occupation of THOMAS SYMES born > c.1799 on the 1871 census for me. >

Dear Listers, Could some kind soul please look up the occupation of THOMAS SYMES born c.1799 on the 1871 census for me. RG10 piece 2388 folio 6 Pg4 GSU Roll 835108 I would be very grateful, as I am having difficulties. Thanks Hilary

Hi June What are you looking for in particular? BMD's, census? Rose Sydney On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 11:25 AM, JUNE TOWNSEND <townsend_june@hotmail.com> wrote: > > I live in Australia and I am looking to find families from Somerset UK . > Names are Parkes/Parks/Hunt/Rowe/Hayman/Ling > My family came from Cannington and Combwich in Somerset in 1850 through > 70's Any help would be appreciated with these families. > June > _________________________________________________________________ > Search for local singles online @ Lavalife - Click here > > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D30290&_t=764581033&_r=email_taglines_Search_OCT07&_m=EXT > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

SEA MAN Robert Alun Chick (Penarth) -----Original Message----- From: hilaryflynn@blueyonder.co.uk To: eng-somerset@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:13 Subject: [ENG-SOM] thomas symes Dear Listers, Could some kind soul please look up the occupation of THOMAS SYMES born c.1799 on the 1871 census for me. RG10 piece 2388 folio 6 Pg4 GSU Roll 835108 I would be very grateful, as I am having difficulties. Thanks Hilary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour at http://info.aol.co.uk/homepage/ now.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DaveBoylan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.som.general/12867.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Sandra, Concerning William Lovell, Compton-Martin, Somerset, and the IGI, the Latter Day Saints may not have placed it's parish church index holdings for the town and parish on it's website as yet. But, information from the Latter Day Saints (LDS) online version of the Family History Library Catalog, shows the Family History Library has filmed records and information for Compton-Martin. Please see below for the topics in the catalog: England, Somerset, Compton-Martin Topics England, Somerset, Compton-Martin - Census England, Somerset, Compton-Martin - Church records England, Somerset, Compton-Martin - Land and property England, Somerset, Compton-Martin - Poorhouses, poor law, etc. England, Somerset, Compton-Martin - Schools England, Somerset, Compton-Martin - Taxation ____ Further information at the catalog shows the following church records have been filmed for Compton-Martin: England, Somerset, Compton-Martin - Church records Titles: Bishop's transcripts for Compton-Martin, 1601-1836 Church of England. Parish Church of Compton-Martin (Somersetshire) Church records, 1877-1977 Wesleyan Methodist Chapel (Compton-Martin, Somerset) Churchwardens' accounts and vestry minutes, 1743-1861 Church of England. Parish Church of Compton-Martin (Somersetshire) Parish registers, 1559-1982 Church of England. Parish Church of Compton-Martin (Somersetshire) ____ The LDS have filmed the Compton-Martin Church of England Bishop's Transcripts and Parish Registers. The baptism record of William Lovell may be recorded in these registers on the LDS microfilm. The marriage of his parents may also be recorded, provided of course, they were married in the parish. Information and film number for the Compton-Martin Church of England Bishop's Transcripts is below: Bishop's transcripts for Compton-Martin, 1601-1836 Authors Church of England. Parish Church of Compton-Martin (Somersetshire) (Main Author) Baptisms, marriages and burials, 1601-1640, 1661-1669, 1695, 1732, 1749-1751, 1776, 1800-1836. Some other years also missing and/or in poor condition. FHL BRITISH Film 1470914 Items 10-11 ____ The microfilm of the Compton-Martin Bishop's Transcripts can be ordered from your nearest Family History Center. Order microfilm number 1470914. Next is information and film numbers for the Compton-Martin parish registers. These are different than the Bishop's Transcripts, though they may contain basically the same information as the Bishop's Transcripts: Parish registers, 1559-1982 Authors Church of England. Parish Church of Compton-Martin (Somersetshire) (Main Author) Baptisms, 1559-1641, 1654-1885 Marriages, 1569-1641, 1654-1885 Banns, 1857-1886 Burials, 1559-1641, 1654-1894 List of charities, 1592-1601 Note: Very poor legibility in the registers for the early 19th century. FHL BRITISH Film 1526553 Items 21-31 Burials, 1813-1894 (another filming) Marriages, 1837-1927 Baptisms, 1857-1982 FHL BRITISH Film 1849635 Items 6-8 ____ The baptism and marriage registers that would pertain to your Lovell ancestors for the early 19th century, would be on LDS microfilm 1526553, also available to order from your Family History Center. I'd suggest ordering both the Bishop's Transcripts and the parish registers, as one film may be more legible than the other. More information about Compton-Martin can be found at the Somerset Online Parish Clerk's link at: http://wsom-opc.org.uk/Data/Parish_Gaz.php?k=298 The information at the link shows the name of the Church of England parish is St. Michael's. You'll also see an aerial photo of Compton-Martin at the OPC link. I found a William and Mary Lovell in the 1841 census living in Compton-Martin on Mill Lane. In the household are Ann, age 7; Elizabeth, age 4; and James, age 2. Also in the household is a 1 year old Charles Wells, who may have been related to William and Mary. Unfortunately, the 1841 census does not give the relationships of family members to the head of the household. In addition, ages in the 1841 census were not always accurate, especially for those who were older than 15. All the members of the Lovell household are shown to have been born in the "Same County," that is, Somersetshire. This is indicated by "Yes," in the enumeration for each person in the household. The census follows: 1841 England Census Civil Parish: Compton Martin Hundred: Chewton County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street Address: Mill Lane Registration district: Clutton Sub registration district: Harptree Name, Sex, Age, Occupation, Whether Born in Same County William Lovell, Male, 30, Ag Lab, Yes Mary Lovell, Female, 35, Yes Ann Lovell, Female, 7, Yes Elizabeth Lovell, Female, 4, Yes James Lovell, Male, 2, Yes Charles Wells, Male, 1, Yes ____ I can't be positive these are your Lovells Sandra, but they may be. I continued with further research about the Lovell children as if they were in your genealogy however. I next searched for the civil registration birth indexes for two of the children of William and Mary Lovell. The search was conducted at the FreeBMD website at: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ By way of explanation, the British government did not begin to record births, marriages, and deaths in England and Wales until July 1837. Indexes of these births, marriages, and deaths are grouped into quarters. The quarters include March, June, September, and December. For example, the March quarter consists of the months of January, February, and March. The June quarter consists of April, May, and June; the September quarter of July, August, and September; and the December quarter of October, November, and December. In the 1841 census shown above, Elizabeth Lovell is shown to be 4 years old, which places her year of birth in 1837. However, if she were born before July of 1837 (the September quarter), there would not be a birth record for her. Just like there would be no civil birth record for 7 year old Ann, who would have been born circa 1834. I searched the GRO birth indexes at the FreeBMD website for Elizabeth Lovell in Compton-Martin for 1837, but did not find an index for her. I then looked for the GRO birth index for James Lovell, who is shown to be 2 years old in 1841, placing his year of birth circa 1839. I may have found the index for him. The index shows the birth of a James Lovell recorded in the Clutton Registration District for the June quarter of 1839. I can't be positive this James Lovell was the son of your William and Mary, as the names of the parents are not given in the GRO indexes, though the full names of the parents, including the mother's maiden name, should be listed in the full birth record available from the GRO. The index follows: Births Jun 1839 Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Lovell James Clutton 11 105 ____ The full birth record for James Lovell can be found in Volume 11, Page 105 of the GRO registers. You can order the full birth record from the GRO website at: http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ The least expensive method of ordering GRO certificates is to order them online, and by providing the Volume (11), and Page Number (105), from the marriage index you see above. Before ordering certificates online, you will need to type in your email address and provide a password to log in to the site. The GRO link to log onto the site can be found at: https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp The cost of a certificate by ordering online is £7.00. The full baptism certificate for James Lovell should provide you with the names of his parents, as mentioned earlier. Birth records will also contain some or all of the following details, which comes from the FreeBMD website: Births : District, Date & Place of Birth, Child's ForeNames & Surname, Child's Sex, Father's Name, Fathers Place of Birth, Father's Occupation, Mother's Name, Mother's Occupation, Mother's Place of Birth, Mother's Usual Address, Informant's Name, Informants Qualification, Informant's Address, Informant's Signature, Date of Registration,Registrar's Name & Signature, Child's Revised Name (if any, after registration). ____ The index show that James's birth was recorded in the Clutton Registration District. The Clutton Registration District recorded births, marriages, and deaths for several towns and parishes in Somersetshire, including Compton-Martin. For a list of these towns and parishes, go to the GenUKI website link at: http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/clutton.html Continuing with research in the 1841 census, I also found the family of John and Ann Lovell and children in Compton-Martin. John Lovell may have been the brother or perhaps cousin of William. But, he may have been no relation at all. The census for John and Ann Lovell and family is below: 1841 England Census Civil Parish: Compton Martin Hundred: Chewton County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street Address or Place: Compton Martin Registration district: Clutton Sub registration district: Harptree Name, Sex, Age, Occupation, Whether Born in Same County John Lovell, Male, 30, Ag Lab, Yes Ann Lovell, Female, 40, Ag Lab, Yes Elizabeth Lovell, Female, 10, Yes Maria Lovell, Female, 7, Yes Ann Lovell, Female, 5, Yes George Lovell, Male, 1 Month, Yes ____ Also living in Compton-Martin, as shown in the 1841 census, is the family of James and Eliza Lovell and their children. James may have been the brother of William and John Lovell: 1841 England Census Civil Parish: Compton Martin Hundred: Chewton County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street Address or Place: Registration district: Clutton Sub registration district: Harptree Name, Sex, Age, Occupation, Whether Born in Same County James Lovell, Male, 45, Ag Lab, Yes Eliza Lovell, Female, 30, Yes Louisa Lovell, Female, 10, Yes Sarah Lovell, Female, 7, Yes Henry Lovell, Male, 5, Yes Martha Lovell, Female, 2, Yes ____ Other Lovells in the 1841 census include Richard, 25 years old; Sarah, 60 years old; and Sarah, 7 years old. I am wondering if it is possible that 60 year old Sarah was the mother to your William, and the other Lovells, including James, and John, and of course Richard. The enumeration follows: 1841 England Census Civil Parish: Compton Martin Hundred: Chewton County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street Address or Place: Compton Martin Occupation: View image Registration district: Clutton Sub registration district: Harptree Name, Sex, Age, Occupation, Whether Born in Same County Richard Lovell, Male, 25, Ag Lab, Yes Sarah Lovell, Female, 60, Yes Sarah Lovell, Female, 7, Yes ____ The older Sarah Lovell is again enumerated in the 1851 census, where her age is given as 73. She is shown to be living in the household of Richard and Mary Lovell and their four children whose names are Alfred, James, Mary, and Matthew. Their address in the census is given as "No. 317 The Street." 1851 England Census Civil Parish: Compton Martin County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street Address: No. 317 The Street Registration district: Clutton Sub registration district: Harptree ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 37 Name, Relation to Head of Household, Condition as to Marriage, Sex, Age, Occupation, Where Born Richard Lovell, Head, Married, Male, 35, Ag Lab, Somerset Compton Martin Mary Lovell, Wife, Married, Female, 30, Somerset Compton Martin Alfred Lovell, Son, Male, 7, Scholar, Somerset Compton Martin James Lovell, Son, Male, 5, Somerset Compton Martin Mary Lovell, Daughter, Female, 2, Somerset Compton Martin Mathew Lovell, Son, 5 Mo, Somerset Compton Martin Sarah Lovell, Relation, Widow, 73, General Servant, Somerset Compton Martin ____ To recap Sandra, order the Compton Martin Church of England parish registers and Bishop's Transcripts from the Family History Center to see if you can find the baptism of William. His baptism should give you the full name of his father and first name of his mother, but may not provide you with his mother's maiden name. You'll also want to search the parish registers for the marriage of his parents. If found, the church marriage should give you the maiden name of William's mother. The marriage record may also tell you names of the fathers of the bride and groom. Likewise church marriage records should also tell you the maiden name of William's wife Mary. Keep in mind however, that is was a tradition that marriages took place in the bride's parish. If you cannot find the marriage of William and Mary in the Compton-Martin Church of England registers, you can search the registers for the parish of St. Cuthburt, also known as the parish of Wells, as this is the parish in which Chilcott is located, according to Lewis's Topographical Dictionary, 4th edition, printed in 1848. Lewis's Topographical Dictionary can be found at the British History Online website at: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/source.asp?pubid=445 The entry for Chilcott, from Lewis's Topographical Dictionary is below: Chilcott CHILCOTT, a tything in the parish of St. Cuthbert, city and union of Wells, hundred of Wells Forum, E. division of the county of Somerset; containing 70 inhabitants. From: A Topographical Dictionary of England (1848), pp. 593-597. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=50873. Date accessed: 27 April 2008. ____ More information about Wells can be found at the Somerset Online Parish Clerk's website at: http://wsom-opc.org.uk/Data/Parish_Gaz.php?k=560 This site shows that the name of the Anglican, or Church of England parish in Wells, is St. Cuthbert. The LDS have filmed the parish registers and banns of marriage for St. Cuthbert's Church of England for the time period that William and Mary would have been wed. Because it's not certain when William and Mary were married, I've included two microfilm reels for the St. Cuthbert's Registers, one of which ends with the year 1826, and the other which begins with the year 1826. Information and microfilms are below: Parish registers of Wells (St. Cuthbert's), 1609-1901 Authors Church of England. Parish Church of Wells (Somerset) The parish church of Wells is known as St. Cuthbert. Baptisms, 1740-1826 Marriages, 1740-1837 Banns, 1754-1834 Burials, 1740-1835 FHL BRITISH Film 1526770 Baptisms, 1826-1890 Marriages, 1837-1900 Banns, 1834-1869 Burials, 1835-1900 FHL BRITISH Film 1526763 ____ The St. Cuthbert's Church of England parish registers can be found on LDS microfilms 1526770 and 1526763. The registers of St. Cuthbert's may also contain the baptism of Mary. Best Wishes Sandra, Dave Boylan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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I am having difficulty in tracing the parents of Mary Ann Blackmore (nee Stone) who - according to her will - was born in Wraxall. She died on 30 April 1844 in Flax Bourton and based upon the dates in her death certificate she would have been born about 1790. I haven't been able to find the names of her parents or christening datealthough she did have a brother named John Stone. Whilst I appreciare that the surname 'Stone' is fairly common I hope that other listers may be able to help me in my search? Many thanks David Blackmore

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: syljun Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.som.general/3642.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Any chance you have a George Harding born c.1771/6. I have been searching for years for birthplace without luck as he was only ever on 1841 Census. Died Stawell, Somerset. Married Moorlinch Parish Church 1803 to Joan Holley. Regards, Syljun Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: grove27 Surnames: Stevens Swanger Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.som.general/12897/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Can anyone help with the descendents of John Stevens and Edith Swanger, married 1902 Hatch Beauchamp. John Stevens was the son of Hugh Stevens and Emily Harvey and born Thorn Falcon 1878. Edith was the daughter of Emily Swanger and born 1874 Kilve. Interested as to whether there are any Stevens descendents still in the Hatch Beauchamp / Thorn Falcon area Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is nothing to do with the PERRY or CRITCHARD families but I'm interested in GUPPY from Wells. My husband's great grandmother was Emma GUPPY born 1838 in Wells - I've managed to trace her family back to 1725 to GOOPY of Ditcheat - do you have any connections there? Best wishes Pat Valerie Guppy wrote: > i am new to this website , the mystery of my mothers family is the relation of henry perry of dowlish to my grandfather james tom crichard of axmouth & shute ,devon . henry was born in dowlish wake 1850 , the next entry in the family bible is the crichard family in my grandfathers writing, how did henry perry's family bible get to my grandfather which i have now , henry's family goes back to the 1700's . i live in devon ,my husband comes from somerset . val guppy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Dear Charani, Thanks for these websites which I will peruse tomorrow. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charani" <familyhunter@family-hunter.co.uk> To: <eng-somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] PURNELL family research > Paul Newbury wrote: >> Dear Listers, Please will some kind Lister with access to the >> Parish records of St Augustine of Hippo, Clutton, Holy Trinity, >> High Littleton and closeby parishes, help me with adding to and >> amending the details of two newly-discovered generations of my >> Purnell family ? If possible I would like the full dates and places >> for the events indicated. > > The High Littleton CMBs are available online at: > > http://www.highlittletonhistory.org.uk/church.html > > For Clutton, see: > > http://www.geocities.com/heartland/lane/8397/Clutton.htm > >> They went on to have four children - Robert Purnell, baptised 1685, >> Joseph Purnell baptised,Clutton, 1690, Betty Purnell, baptised >> 1694 and Mary Purnell, baptised 1698.. > >> Of these, I only know that Robert Purnell, baptised 1685 married a >> Jane Peare in 1706 (Place and date unknown) and went on to have >> eight children; while his brother Joseph Purnell was baptised 1690 >> at Holy Trinity, High Littleton, and went on to marry Sarah >> ........... (Place and Date not known), and went on to have seven >> children. > > I have a Joseph born/baptised around 1693 which would appear to be the > one you mention above. I guestimated his marriage to Sarah as being > around 1715, but with no place. > > I have 9 children for them: > > Betty b 1718 > Mary b 1719 > Anne b 1721 > Joseph b 1722 > Sarah b c1723 d 1727 > Isaac b 1725 d 1742 > Abraham b 1727 d 1812 > Sarah b 1730 > William b 1734 > > I've transcribed all the PURNELLs in Clutton and posted them up on the > Bristol & Somerset list. This was in November and December 2006. Not > all of them were/are on the geocities site I mentioned above. > > If you have a look at the archives for B+S you'll find them all there, > clearly listed as PURNELL. > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.4/1396 - Release Date: > 24/04/2008 18:32 >