Dear Folks, Over the years I have made many contacts via this list and write to many of you directly.? However, as from 1 Jun my aol address will no longer be valid.? Anyone wishing to contact me should write to lizcoles@t-online.de I will resubscribe to the list using my new address. Just a reminder of my Somerset interests: SCRIVEN from High Ham, ADAMS from Isle Brewers HUSSEY from Curry Rivel and Beercrocombe PIPPIN from Curry Rivel VILE from Puckington and Isle Brewers BUDGE rom Isle Brewers COLES from Walcot and Bathwick LYDIARD from Monkton Combe SHELL from Batheaston History of Curry Rivel and Langport I have transcribed many Curry Rivel Parish Records for Freereg and sometimes work with the OPC. At present I am transcribing marriages records for St Mary's Bathwick. Best wishes to you all, Liz Coles in Munich ________________________________________________________________________ Bei AOL gibt's jetzt kostenlos eMail f?r alle. Klicken Sie auf AOL.de um heraus zu finden, was es sonst noch kostenlos bei AOL gibt.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: syljun Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.som.general/4058.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Would be interested to know if you obtained any info. on George Harding e.g. birthplace as I have been searching for a long time for a George Harding born Stawell Somerset.Bap. 1804. Have found no info at all on him but members of family have married in Bristol. Many thanks, Syljun Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Just want to thank Martin and his team for all their efforts. It is much appreciated. Best Wishes, Chris -----Original Message----- From: Martin Southwood [mailto:martin@southw.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 8:12 PM To: eng-somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-SOM] Site update Evening all, Sampford Brett has had its Baptisms updated, back to 1692, and Janet is working on more St. Decumans (Watchet). We shall shortly make a fresh start with Cannington (which has been requested). http://wsomparreg.mysite.orange.co.uk Cheers, Martin Southwood

Lynne Several of us wanted the answers to the questions about destinations. I would expected that others had asked the same question of them. It was a simple request to see if anyone had had a reply; no criticism intended. I would guess that the answer to my post is "no"? Philip Maddocks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne" <rwlist.admin@verizon.net> To: <eng-somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Immigration to Canada > Hi Philip > > You wrote: > >>Has anyone managed to get a reply from these people? >> >>Philip Maddocks >> >> >> >> >>>For Castle Gardens, try: >>> >>>The Battery Conservancy >>>1 New York Plaza, New York, NY 10004 >>>phone: 212 344-3491 fax: 212 344-3496 >>>_info@castlegarden.org_ (mailto:info@castlegarden.org) >>> >>>Dorothy Nagy >>>Newport News, Virginia >>> > > > > I imagine they are overwhelmed with family history queries and unlikely > to respond very quickly. If you haven't already, try searching their > web site at http://www.castlegarden.org/ > > Best wishes, > Lynne > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ros, Thanks very much for the info. Helen McNamara New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: <rosandtony@talktalk.net> To: <eng-somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:21 AM Subject: [ENG-SOM] re Parish Records > Hi Helen > Try the Bath Record Office > Guildhall > BATH BA1 5AW > Tel 01225 477421 > Fax 01225 477439 > Email archives@bathnes.gov.uk > The staff are very helpful and will go out of their way to find > information for you. Wishing you success > Regards Ros > Ros Portsmouth in the City of Bath > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.7/1408 - Release Date: > 30/04/2008 6:10 PM > >

Evening all, Sampford Brett has had its Baptisms updated, back to 1692, and Janet is working on more St. Decumans (Watchet). We shall shortly make a fresh start with Cannington (which has been requested). http://wsomparreg.mysite.orange.co.uk Cheers, Martin Southwood

Dear James & Nancy, Thanks for your replies. >so I ask therefore why not baptised at same time as John?< >Could James have been baptised pre-14th May as PERKINS?< . Can't think of any reason why James wasn't baptized at the same time as John! I thought that the delay in registering his birth could have been so that his parents were married prior to the registration. Doesn't explain why the 2 children weren't baptized together, though. . I suppose that it's possible that James may have been baptized as PERKINS. > Could John Jones have married a Mary Elizabeth PERKINS and she was called Betty?< . On the marriage entry her only name was Mary. Haven't found her baptism yet, so can't be absolutely certain that she didn't have a middle name, however she's always listed as plain 'Mary' on censuses where we've found her. Once again, thanks for your thoughts on this! Joanna

Has anyone managed to get a reply from these people? Philip Maddocks ----- Original Message ----- To: <eng-somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 3:22 PM Subject: [ENG-SOM] Immigration to Canada snip > For Castle Gardens, try: > > The Battery Conservancy > 1 New York Plaza, New York, NY 10004 > phone: 212 344-3491 fax: 212 344-3496 > _info@castlegarden.org_ (mailto:info@castlegarden.org) > > Dorothy Nagy > Newport News, Virginia >

Hi Philip You wrote: >Lynne > >Several of us wanted the answers to the questions about destinations. I >would expected that others had asked the same question of them. It was a >simple request to see if anyone had had a reply; no criticism intended. > >I would guess that the answer to my post is "no"? > > > I didn't take your message as being critical. I've never tried to contact the Castle Gardens organization myself, but thought the URL of the site might be useful to you while you're awaiting a response. Best wishes, Lynne

Hi Philip You wrote: >Has anyone managed to get a reply from these people? > >Philip Maddocks > > > > >>For Castle Gardens, try: >> >>The Battery Conservancy >>1 New York Plaza, New York, NY 10004 >>phone: 212 344-3491 fax: 212 344-3496 >>_info@castlegarden.org_ (mailto:info@castlegarden.org) >> >>Dorothy Nagy >>Newport News, Virginia >> I imagine they are overwhelmed with family history queries and unlikely to respond very quickly. If you haven't already, try searching their web site at http://www.castlegarden.org/ Best wishes, Lynne

Hi Stephanie, where have you looked? Have you checked out FreeREG http://www.freereg.org.uk/, FreeBDM http://www.freebmd.org.uk/, FreeCEN http://www.freecen.org.uk/, The Somerset Online Parish Clerk website can be found at http://wsom-opc.org.uk What have you found on the LDS website http://www.familysearch.org/? Debbie McKay Sth Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ssteevenson@aol.com> To: <ENG-SOMERSET@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 4:04 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] VALENTINE, GULLY, POLES, TIMEWELL,JAMES all in the Bridgwater area >I have joined the list in order to help my research into several surnames > from the Bridgwater area of Somerset. I am carrying out this research for > a > good friend - I am the family history nut! I have got to the point where > it > would be extremely useful to find some cousins. So, I would be very > happy to > hear if this list includes researchers into the following surnames: > VALENTINE, > GULLY, POLES, TIMEWELL, JAMES, in descending order of connection, all > 19th > century. > With thanks from > Stephanie > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joanna >From my reading of this message: 1 John JONES married Mary PERKINS 15 May 1838 2 John Perkins JONES baptised 14 May 1838 but age 7 on 1841 therefore born c 1834 3 James Perkins JONES age 3 on 1841 born 4th April 1838 ie 6 WEEKS before his parents marriage, so I ask therefore why not baptised at same time as John? Could James have been baptised pre-14th May as PERKINS? 2008/5/12 Joanna Wheatland <joanna.wheatland@btinternet.com>: > Hello everyone, > I 'finished' researching my Joneses a few years ago now, but have just had > my interest re-awakened by a contact from a relative making an enquiry. > I wonder if any kind lister could possibly help? > In return, I live very close to the Wiltshire Record Office in Chippenham, > and would be willing to do look ups. > My query is regarding John JONES & his wife Mary PERKINS. > They married on 15 May 1838 in Raddington. > On 1841 census of Battscombe the couple are living with children John (7), > James (3) & William (1). > A researcher found the baptism of John Perkins JONES at Raddington on 14 > May > 1838 (the day before his parents' wedding) > the baptism of William Jones in Chipstable in 1840, but no sign of James > Perkins Jones. > That was as far as I got. > My relative, however, has traced James's birth in the GRO and has the > certificate which states: James Perkins Jones born 4th April 1838 in > Chipstable. Father is John Jones who was also the informant and was > resident > in Raddington, he placed his mark on the register so was illiterate. The > birth wasn't registered till the 18th May 1838 however, but here's the fly > in the ointment: the mother is listed as BETTY Jones formerly Perkins and > not Mary Jones formerly Perkins! > He says "I don't really know what to make of that. For this to be a > different James Jones there would need to be 2 John Joneses both living in > Raddington having both married a Perkins woman, having sons about the same > time and both calling them James! and then for the John and Betty to have > left the area or died before 1841 as they don't appear in the 1841 > census." > SO the question is – is the James Perkins Jones on the birth certificate > the > same as the James Jones, son of John & Mary Jones on the 1841 census? > I would love to find the baptismal entry for James, to see who his mother > was, but of course, he could NOT have been baptized (although all their > other children were) or maybe he wasn't baptized until later on, and my > researcher didn't look far enough ahead? > Does anyone have any bright ideas?? > Many thanks to all who've read this far! > Joanna Wheatland > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Jim - http://www.payman.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk Over 15,000 Names in the forest - I have now found the W O O Ds and W O O D L A N Ds (and a B U S H) there are B I R Ds in the trees (including S P A R R O Ws) and Have P R I N C Es and K I N Gs but mostly Ag Labs - Happy Hunting Owner - Somerset Hundreds Groups (Contact Off List for Details) see also: http://www.fromeresearch.org.uk and http://www.opcdorset.com

Hello everyone, I ‘finished’ researching my Joneses a few years ago now, but have just had my interest re-awakened by a contact from a relative making an enquiry. I wonder if any kind lister could possibly help? In return, I live very close to the Wiltshire Record Office in Chippenham, and would be willing to do look ups. My query is regarding John JONES & his wife Mary PERKINS. They married on 15 May 1838 in Raddington. On 1841 census of Battscombe the couple are living with children John (7), James (3) & William (1). A researcher found the baptism of John Perkins JONES at Raddington on 14 May 1838 (the day before his parents’ wedding) the baptism of William Jones in Chipstable in 1840, but no sign of James Perkins Jones. That was as far as I got. My relative, however, has traced James's birth in the GRO and has the certificate which states: James Perkins Jones born 4th April 1838 in Chipstable. Father is John Jones who was also the informant and was resident in Raddington, he placed his mark on the register so was illiterate. The birth wasn’t registered till the 18th May 1838 however, but here’s the fly in the ointment: the mother is listed as BETTY Jones formerly Perkins and not Mary Jones formerly Perkins!  He says “I don’t really know what to make of that. For this to be a different James Jones there would need to be 2 John Joneses both living in Raddington having both married a Perkins woman, having sons about the same time and both calling them James! and then for the John and Betty to have left the area or died before 1841 as they don’t appear in the 1841 census.” SO the question is – is the James Perkins Jones on the birth certificate the same as the James Jones, son of John & Mary Jones on the 1841 census? I would love to find the baptismal entry for James, to see who his mother was, but of course, he could NOT have been baptized (although all their other children were) or maybe he wasn't baptized until later on, and my researcher didn't look far enough ahead? Does anyone have any bright ideas?? Many thanks to all who've read this far! Joanna Wheatland

Joanna, My thoughts. 1. Could John Jones have married a Mary Elizabeth PERKINS and she was called Betty? 2. Elizabeth's in some families were called Betty, usually so as not to confuse them with their mother Elizabeth. 3. A few in my family went by their middle names. At times they went by their first names and used the middle initial and vise versa. Very confusing for we searchers!. 4. My ggrandfather Robert was not Baptized till he was 2 years old, along with his baby brother. The family had been living in MDX when Robert was born but did not Baptize Robert till 2 years later. They went home to Minehead and Baptized Robert along with their next infant, William Edward (always called Ted). 5. Your James may have been Baptized in the mother's Parish or one close by.

Hello again. I have found all the above-mentioned families in all the censuses and have had quite a bit of luck with marriages. My friend who is the direct relative has family oral evidence too from the Bridgwater area. However, there is no contact with any living relatives from parallel lines, so that is what I am hoping for. I have found in my own family research that fifth cousins can have masses of helpful stuff from their lines, totally unkown to me! I will try the online Parish Clerk's site, so thank you. As for the JAMES surname: Hannah JAMES married Samuel Gooding POLES in the July quarter of 1876 in Bridgwater. She sometimes calls herself Annie. She was born about 1852 and was living for the 1901 census, by which time the family have 8 children. It is Samuel POLES' sister who marries into the main VALENTINE line. Many thanks for two responses so far. Stephanie

Joanna, My thoughts. 1. Could John Jones have married a Mary Elizabeth PERKINS and she was called Betty? 2. Elizabeth's in some families were called Betty, usually so as not to confuse them with their mother Elizabeth. 3. A few in my family went by their middle names. At times they went by their first names and used the middle initial and vise versa. Very confusing for we searchers!. 4. My ggrandfather Robert was not Baptized till he was 2 years old, along with his baby brother. The family had been living in MDX when Robert was born but did not Baptize Robert till 2 years later. They went home to Minehead and Baptized Robert along with their next infant, William Edward (always called Ted). 5. Your James may have been Baptized in the mother's Parish or one close by.

The OPC for North Curry can be found on the following web address http://wsom-opc.org.uk/Gazetter/SOM_A2Z.php?a2z=N -----Original Message----- From: eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: 12 May 2008 15:25 To: ENG-SOMERSET@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-SOM] DREW in NORTH CURRY Forwarded on behalf of the poster. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: DREW in NORTH CURRY Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 15:31:57 +1200 From: John Scott <jaydeescott@xtra.co.nz> Reply-To: John Scott <jaydeescott@xtra.co.nz> To: <ENG-SOMERSET-admin@rootsweb.com> Hi List, I am a newcomer to Somerset, is anybody researching DREW in North Curry, I am looking for the baptism of a RICHARD DREW about 1788, age in 1851 census 63 or 65 in Creech St Michael H.O. 107 1922. Is there an OPC for North Curry ? or Creech St Michael ? Any connections with Drew would be wonderful. Many thanks Daphne New Zealand ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pat I have transcribed all the HALLIFAX deaths from the fiche, some years ago and can't find either of the sons there, nor now on FreeBMD. I wonder if they died out of the country. I know a brother was in South Africa at that time. The plot thickens. Regards Liz Vincent 02 4677 2044 / 0419 003 806 P.O. Box 111 Picton NSW 2571 Australia liz@lizvincenttours.com.au www.lizvincenttours.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Hase" <pat@pathase.demon.co.uk> To: <eng-somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Brean/e C/E burial registers > The Weston-super-Mare FHS has transcribed the memorials of Brean - see > www.wsmfhs.org.uk > and there is the following memorial. Nothing on that memorial after > 1900 though. > > In memory of > JOSEPH HALLIFAX > for 23 Rector of this parish > who died Nov 8 1882 > aged 54 years. > Also his sons JOSEPH and OCTAVIOUS > who died Dec 30th 1875 and Oct 3rd 1882 > aged respectively 19 and 20 years. > In hope of eternal life > also CLARA ISABELLA wife of the above > Rev JOSEPH HALLIFAX > who died July 13 1884 aged 57 years > > Best wishes > > Pat > > > > Liz Vincent wrote: > > Hi all > > > > Does anyone know where I could find or has access to St Brigids C/E burial > > records in Brean/e. I have accessed the LDS film which only goes to 1900. > > > > I am researching the HALLIFAX family and found Rev Joseph HALLIFAX and his > > wife Clara died and were buried there 1882/1884 resp. > > > > However I have recently been told some of the children were also buried > > there in the 1900s. > > > > Would appreciate any help. > > > > Thanks and > > > > > > Regards > > Liz Vincent 02 4677 2044 / 0419 003 806 > > P.O. Box 111 Picton NSW 2571 Australia > > liz@lizvincenttours.com.au www.lizvincenttours.com.au > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Forwarded on behalf of the poster. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: DREW in NORTH CURRY Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 15:31:57 +1200 From: John Scott <jaydeescott@xtra.co.nz> Reply-To: John Scott <jaydeescott@xtra.co.nz> To: <ENG-SOMERSET-admin@rootsweb.com> Hi List, I am a newcomer to Somerset, is anybody researching DREW in North Curry, I am looking for the baptism of a RICHARD DREW about 1788, age in 1851 census 63 or 65 in Creech St Michael H.O. 107 1922. Is there an OPC for North Curry ? or Creech St Michael ? Any connections with Drew would be wonderful. Many thanks Daphne New Zealand

Hi Pat WOW thank you so very much, most appreciated. Now I know why the devils aren't appearing on the census. :-) Regards Liz Vincent 02 4677 2044 / 0419 003 806 P.O. Box 111 Picton NSW 2571 Australia liz@lizvincenttours.com.au www.lizvincenttours.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Hase" <pat@pathase.demon.co.uk> To: <eng-somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Brean/e C/E burial registers > The Weston-super-Mare FHS has transcribed the memorials of Brean - see > www.wsmfhs.org.uk > and there is the following memorial. Nothing on that memorial after > 1900 though. > > In memory of > JOSEPH HALLIFAX > for 23 Rector of this parish > who died Nov 8 1882 > aged 54 years. > Also his sons JOSEPH and OCTAVIOUS > who died Dec 30th 1875 and Oct 3rd 1882 > aged respectively 19 and 20 years. > In hope of eternal life > also CLARA ISABELLA wife of the above > Rev JOSEPH HALLIFAX > who died July 13 1884 aged 57 years > > Best wishes > > Pat > > > > Liz Vincent wrote: > > Hi all > > > > Does anyone know where I could find or has access to St Brigids C/E burial > > records in Brean/e. I have accessed the LDS film which only goes to 1900. > > > > I am researching the HALLIFAX family and found Rev Joseph HALLIFAX and his > > wife Clara died and were buried there 1882/1884 resp. > > > > However I have recently been told some of the children were also buried > > there in the 1900s. > > > > Would appreciate any help. > > > > Thanks and > > > > > > Regards > > Liz Vincent 02 4677 2044 / 0419 003 806 > > P.O. Box 111 Picton NSW 2571 Australia > > liz@lizvincenttours.com.au www.lizvincenttours.com.au > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >