Hi Jean-Marie, This may help you, Dorset Online Parish Clerks < http://www.opcdorset.org/links.htm > Best wishes Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Marie Dessaux" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 11:57 AM Subject: [ENG-SOM] My name interests in Somerset > > Here are the names of my ancestors in Somerset (and where they lived) > > > > - DAVIDGE : Wayford - > > - MOREY or MORY : Wayford - > > - CROCKER : Wayford - Crewkerne > > - > Jean-Marie DESSAUX > > - > 59242 Templeuve FRANCE > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Here are the names of my ancestors in Somerset (and where they lived) - DAVIDGE : Wayford - - MOREY or MORY : Wayford - - CROCKER : Wayford - Crewkerne - Jean-Marie DESSAUX - 59242 Templeuve FRANCE

Yvonne Scrivener wrote: > I have found a lot of brides without surnames in the earliest registers - an > indication that she becomes a chattel from the ceremony onwards, perhaps? Maybe; I'm more inclined to think whoever made up the registers had forgotten her name, perhaps because she had no identity of her own. I have to say I have found other grooms missing a name. > There are occasions when she doesn't get a forename either - just took a > wife, and if the Clerk was a little bit helpful it might say where she came > from! I've had a couple of those too :/ I found the name of one missing bride by looking for children with her husband's name. I still don't have her surname of course, but I may be able to identify her within a reasonable degree of certainty eventually. They were in Street so it wasn't too bad. Where a couple are from completely different parishes, it'll have to wait until I can get to the Heritage Centre. > There is another parish where there are regular references to David the > Welshman, or Bridget the Irishwoman, for example, when their children are > baptised - no surnames again. I guess in a small parish, they knew who they > meant. Very likely and they'd never have dreamt there'd be all us researchers wanting to know this information and pawing/pouring over their registers 200/300 years on <BG> Most inconsiderate of them but I suppose they couldn't whip out their crystal balls. It might have proved somewhat detrimental to their health if they had. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Diana Ingram wrote: > Hello Charani > > How far afield have you looked for a PINKARD? In the 1940's there was a > family of that name in Frome. Just a thought. Not that far from Wells but > expect you have done all that. Thanks for your thoughts :)) They are always useful :)) The Frome family would no doubt be connected but the young lady's husband was rather earlier than that. I may have to go that way around to find him though; in which case he'll have to go on the back burner for a time. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Hello Charani How far afield have you looked for a PINKARD? In the 1940's there was a family of that name in Frome. Just a thought. Not that far from Wells but expect you have done all that. Regards Diana ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charani" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] IGI Middle Name Index [was Missing groom from Wells 1733] > Yvonne Scrivener wrote: >> I can't help with your PINKARD, Charani, but I did think of Hugh Wallis' >> IGI >> Middle Name Index when I read your message. >> >> It hasn't been mentioned in a long while on any list that I am on, so may >> be >> new to some readers: >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/ > > Thank you for thinking of it :)) It's something I'd forgotten about. > Sadly it seems Hester didn't have any children with PINKARD as a > middle name. > > The chances of finding who the groom was are slim in the extreme but > doing the impossible isn't unheard of for researchers :)) > > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM > Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have found a lot of brides without surnames in the earliest registers - an indication that she becomes a chattel from the ceremony onwards, perhaps? There are occasions when she doesn't get a forename either - just took a wife, and if the Clerk was a little bit helpful it might say where she came from! There is another parish where there are regular references to David the Welshman, or Bridget the Irishwoman, for example, when their children are baptised - no surnames again. I guess in a small parish, they knew who they meant. Yvonne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charani Sent: Monday, 17 January 2011 7:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] IGI Middle Name Index [was Missing groom from Wells 1733] Yvonne Scrivener wrote: > That would have been too easy :) True but easy would be nice occasionally, well, a bit more than occasionally <G> So long as it isn't too often. That'd spoil the fun!! LOL I've found a few more brides and grooms minus their given and/or surnames since posting that and I've only got as far as 1745. I also have a puzzle as to why so many couples from other towns and villages all over north Somerset chose to marry in that particular church. Sometimes it's only the bride or groom, mostly it's both. One groom came from Wales and another from London. The latter's bride was from Doulting which is at least 12 miles from Walton. Most of these "foreign" brides/grooms/couples married by licence as one would expect but some were by banns. So far I've not found any connections with Walton. There may be some but the BTs are very patchy from 1607 and the PRs don't get going until about 1680/1690. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5792 (20110116) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

That would have been too easy :) Yvonne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charani Sadly it seems Hester didn't have any children with PINKARD as a middle name.

Yvonne Scrivener wrote: > That would have been too easy :) True but easy would be nice occasionally, well, a bit more than occasionally <G> So long as it isn't too often. That'd spoil the fun!! LOL I've found a few more brides and grooms minus their given and/or surnames since posting that and I've only got as far as 1745. I also have a puzzle as to why so many couples from other towns and villages all over north Somerset chose to marry in that particular church. Sometimes it's only the bride or groom, mostly it's both. One groom came from Wales and another from London. The latter's bride was from Doulting which is at least 12 miles from Walton. Most of these "foreign" brides/grooms/couples married by licence as one would expect but some were by banns. So far I've not found any connections with Walton. There may be some but the BTs are very patchy from 1607 and the PRs don't get going until about 1680/1690. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Hi Folks I thought it was time to try some demolition work on some of the brick walls in the family!! The first I am looking for is John LUXTON born c1801 according to 1841 & 1851 Census, I have him on both of these as living in Upper High street Taunton. In 1841 with (presumably) wife Sarah and 8 children born between 1821 & 1840, baptisms for the children are at Paul Street Independent Church Taunton. In the 1851 Census he is listed as a widower and living with 4 children. I have a death in 1842 for Sarah and in 1860 for John. Unfortunately I cannot find any other details for either of them in the Taunton area. The second child, Jane (b 1822), my GG grandmother, gives her place of birth on later census returns as Staplegrove but no details to be found. I would love to find the Marriage for John & Sarah which would give her Surname and would have taken place around 1820 according to the Baptisms. Regards and best wishes for 2011 to all Patrick Williams

I can't help with your PINKARD, Charani, but I did think of Hugh Wallis' IGI Middle Name Index when I read your message. It hasn't been mentioned in a long while on any list that I am on, so may be new to some readers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/ Yvonne Scrivener Canberra ACT Australia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charani On 5 Nov 1733 Hester PINKARD married a gentleman from Wells in Walton by banns. Problem is the register doesn't give the groom's name and the BT for that year are missing. The couple are not going to be in any census. Does anyone have a gentleman in Wells who has a wife named Hester but no marriage for them. Hopefully they had a child with Pinkard as a middle name.

Yvonne Scrivener wrote: > I can't help with your PINKARD, Charani, but I did think of Hugh Wallis' IGI > Middle Name Index when I read your message. > > It hasn't been mentioned in a long while on any list that I am on, so may be > new to some readers: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/ Thank you for thinking of it :)) It's something I'd forgotten about. Sadly it seems Hester didn't have any children with PINKARD as a middle name. The chances of finding who the groom was are slim in the extreme but doing the impossible isn't unheard of for researchers :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

I know how much family historians and genealogists love a challenge <VBG> so I have one. I can't offer too much of a prize beyond a quart of whatever the person who solves this is having :)) On 5 Nov 1733 Hester PINKARD married a gentleman from Wells in Walton by banns. Problem is the register doesn't give the groom's name and the BT for that year are missing. The couple are not going to be in any census. Does anyone have a gentleman in Wells who has a wife named Hester but no marriage for them. Hopefully they had a child with Pinkard as a middle name. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

I can't make him fit but thanks anyway Sheila ======================================== Message Received: Jan 14 2011, 02:31 PM From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Cc: Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] John Lang Sheila, I have a John LANG bt c 1794 Brompton Regis, SOM., married Mary bt c 1798 Dulverton. Daughter Jane LANG bt 1835 Dulverton married John COLE 1829 Timberscombe, they had 10 children, one of whom Henry married Maria ALLEN one of my ancestors at Minehead on the 28th April 1904. Is this of any help? Fred ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Fred I wish I could fit yours in but thanks anyway Sheila ======================================== Message Received: Jan 15 2011, 08:28 AM From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Cc: Subject: ENG-SOMERSET Digest, Vol 6, Issue 6 Sheila, I have a John LANG bt c 1794 Brompton Regis, SOM., married Mary bt c 1798 Dulverton. Daughter Jane LANG bt 1835 Dulverton married John COLE 1829 Timberscombe, they had 10 children, one of whom Henry married Maria ALLEN one of my ancestors at Minehead on the 28th April 1904. Is this of any help? Fred

Sheila, I have a John LANG bt c 1794 Brompton Regis, SOM., married Mary bt c 1798 Dulverton. Daughter Jane LANG bt 1835 Dulverton married John COLE 1829 Timberscombe, they had 10 children, one of whom Henry married Maria ALLEN one of my ancestors at Minehead on the 28th April 1904. Is this of any help? Fred

Does anyone know any Lang's born c1786 anywhere in Somerset. Sheila

Sheila Beer wrote: > Does anyone know any Lang's born c1786 anywhere in Somerset. FreeREG has over 400 in their database; 32 of these were been 1768 +/-5 years, only 2 are Johns. 5 Baptisms 25 Apr 1790 LANG John Somerset Lopen Father Surname 16 Baptisms 03 Mar 1782 LANG John Somerset Watchet Father Surname -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Good afternoon from New Zealand I am new to this list although have been on other list in the past My name is Eileen Chapman born in the UK came to NZ 1966 with my husband for 5 weeks and then decided this was to be our home.   Now to my request ....in 1884 my husband;s great G Grandfather James William Chapman(widower) moved from London to Kent where he met and married Fanny Denne they had 2 children which I have found ,their son Albert Arthur married Ethel May Field 1910 St Pancras I have just received Ethel's death cert: and the informant was their son Albert William (b 1911) his address 87 Woodbury Avenue Wells Somerset, as Chapman is a common name it is hard for me to find out if there are any relatives born (if he married of course) to him ie: also can anyone tell me who is now living at 87 Woodbury Avenue, this will get me further along in the Chapman line Thanking you all Eileen

>From Grub Street Journal ( London, England ), Thursday, June 10, 1736; Issue 337. They write from Old Henstridge in Somersetshire, that the 2nd inst. one Anne BOYNTON was delivered of 3 daughters and a son; soon after one of the daughters died, but the rest are like to live. The aforesaid woman has been married but 4 years, and has lain in 3 times; by the first she had 2 female children, by the second 2 male, and by the third 4, as above.

12:01:07 PM Monday, 10 January 2011 Hi Caroline Welcome to the Somerset List. Ladymead House is visible on Streetwise in Walcot Street, and further up the street on the same side of the road, there is a building named St Michael' Church House. But there is no sign of an actual church in the close vicinity. TonyM List Admin Monday, January 10, 2011, 11:25:00 AM, you wrote: > There is a St. Michaels in Broad Street and a Ladymead House in Walcot. It > is quite likely that over the years this became Ladymade church. I'd go with > freereg on this one. > Do a search on Google Earth for St Michaels, Bath and Ladymead, Bath. > Harry > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 11:45 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ENG-SOM] advice on church in Bath > G'day Listers, > I'm trying to find out the correct name of a church in Bath. > One of my ancestors, William Samwell, was buried in Moundford, Norfolk aged > 7 months in Sept 1815 - the burial entry states he was born 13 January 1815 > and baptised at 'Ladymade Church, Bath'. Parents were William and Mary Ann. > The closest baptism I can find in freereg is a baptism of William Samuel in > St Michael's in Bath but father is recorded as Labourer (although abode is > 'Lady Mead') and unlikely to be mine. > The Samwells were circus performers and were travelling all over England - > thus born and buried in different places. > Could someone please advise the correct name of the church - I've tried a > google search and can't find it. > As well, maybe SKS has access to the baptism register and could send me a > transcript or scan? > Many thanks, > Caroline > Darwin, Australia. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email -- Regards, TonyM mailto:[email protected]