Miss Moneypenny wrote: > Hi thanks for answering my letter, I have search for years with no success > for a marriage for Sarah Prior to may Edwards with no joy even to a Windsor > any help would be great, can not even find marriage for Thomas Edwards to > sarah Prior/Windsor I need a miracle It could be they didn't marry. I've found several recently who didn't and that's without the marriages missing from the GRO indices. You could try contacting the relevant register offices to see if they have an entry which didn't make it to the GRO or didn't make it into the GRO indices. FreeREG is updated regularly, so if there's no relevant entry there now, try again next month. Sarah and Thomas may not have married in the expected parish either. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Hello Everyone, This is my first post to the list. I am researching my Aunt's Husbands side for my Cousin who live's in Australia. I have found so far, William WHAITE Born 1821 ? Leicester (going by the 1851 Census) Occupation Artist/Photographer Married Hannah UNKNOWN Children: Edward GAY WHAITE born 1849 Bath Somerset William Henry WHAITE born 1850 Bath. Clementina Mary WHAITE born 1852 Bath Somerset. Anne WHAITE born 1854 Bath Somerset. Hannah WHAITE I have googled William & Hannah WHAITE as the Photography/Artist seemed most intriguing to me, I did wonder what sort of things they may have taken. Is anyone else researching the Surname WHAITE by any chance.. Iris

Hi thanks for answering my letter, I have search for years with no success for a marriage for Sarah Prior to may Edwards with no joy even to a Windsor any help would be great, can not even find marriage for Thomas Edwards to sarah Prior/Windsor I need a miracle sandy

Lemleyloo wrote: > Thomas Edwards born 1815 married Sarah Prior/ Windsor to which I > can find a married to in the name of Prior or Windsor, to Thomas > Edwards. Was this lady married twice. Yes, she most likely did marry twice. The marriage certificate should sort out which was her birth surname and which was her previous married name. See if you can find a marriage for a Sarah PRIOR to a WINDSOR. If you can, have a look for his death before Sarah married Thomas EDWARDS. If Sarah's first marriage was before 1 July 1837, try www.freereg.org.uk If neither option gives you an answer, you will probably have to buy Thomas and Sarah's marriage certificate. The alternative possibility was that Sarah was illegitimate and one name was her mother's and the other either her natural father's name or her stepfather's name. > One of their children called Sampson born 1847 is known as Sampson > Windsor .his birth certificates say his mother maiden name is Prior > and father as Thomas Windsor surely it would be Edwards but is > Windsor. > > So why would the father name her name and use his, has any one any > ideas that can help me sort this out and understand, I am willing > to send birth certificate to clear any misunderstanding in my > request for help. The father didn't have to register the child, the mother could also do so as could a friend, relative, midwife or another resident at the same address. There are three possible reasons why a child's surname is not as expected after a marriage. The first is the registrar asks for the father's name, meaning the *child's* father, but the mother gives *her* father's name. The second is the mother gives her previous husband's name rather than her current husband's. The third is the informant (father or another person) misunderstands the question and gives the wrong name or is just plain confused, especially if it's the first time the informant has registered a child. The second or third possibilities seem to be the most likely in your instance. At that time, the registrar had to find and register all the newborn children. Having a government official in your home would have flustered many a parent, I would think :)) The parent/s could also go to register their child themselves. They didn't have to wait for the registrar to find them. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Miss Moneypenny wrote: > Thomas Edwards born 1815 married Sarah Prior/ Windsor to which I can find a > married to in the name of Prior or Windsor, to Thomas Edwards. Was this lady > married twice. Yes, she most likely did marry twice. The marriage certificate should sort out which was her birth surname and which was her previous married name. See if you can find a marriage for a Sarah PRIOR to a WINDSOR. If you can, have a look for his death before Sarah married Thomas EDWARDS. If Sarah's first marriage was before 1 July 1837, try www.freereg.org.uk If neither option gives you an answer, you will probably have to buy Thomas and Sarah's marriage certificate. The alternative possibility was that Sarah was illegitimate and one name was her mother's and the other either her natural father's name or her stepfather's name. > One of their children called Sampson born 1847 is known as Sampson Windsor . > his birth certificates say his mother maiden name is Prior and father as > Thomas Windsor surely it would be Edwards but is Windsor. > > So why would the father name her name and use his, has any one any ideas > that can help me sort this out and understand, I am willing to send birth > certificate to clear any misunderstanding in my request for help. The father didn't have to register the child, the mother could also do so as could a friend, relative, midwife or another resident at the same address. There are three possible reasons why a child's surname is not as expected after a marriage. The first is the registrar asks for the father's name, meaning the *child's* father, but the mother gives *her* father's name. The second is the mother gives her previous husband's name rather than her current husband's. The third is the informant (father or another person) misunderstands the question and gives the wrong name or is just plain confused, especially if it's the first time the informant has registered a child. The second or third possibilities seem to be the most likely in your instance. At that time, the registrar had to find and register all the newborn children. Having a government official in your home would have flustered many a parent, I would think :)) The parent/s could also go to register their child themselves. They didn't have to wait for the registrar to find them. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

From: Lemleyloo [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 28 February 2011 12:03 To: '[email protected]'; 'Miss Money Penny ([email protected])' Subject: Windsor Info Hello I am writing to see if anyone can try and explain a situation which I cannot understand in my husband's family down in Langport , Somerset It starts with honour hill Marry a john Edwards in Huish Episcope, Somerset on the 5th march 1777 they had the following children: Thomas 1784 Mary 1779 Betty 1779 John 1782 Now Thomas born 1784 married Elizabeth Bernard and they had the following children John 1806 Leah 1808 James 1812 Rachael 1819 Winifred 1820 Elizabeth 1826 Thomas 1815 Now all these children have the surname of EDWARDS. Thomas Edwards born 1815 married Sarah Prior/ Windsor to which I can find a married to in the name of Prior or Windsor, to Thomas Edwards. Was this lady married twice. They had eight children, this is where the confused has set in. One of their children called Sampson born 1847 is known as Sampson Windsor . his birth certificates say his mother maiden name is Prior and father as Thomas Windsor surely it would be Edwards but is Windsor. So why would the father name her name and use his, has any one any ideas that can help me sort this out and understand, I am willing to send birth certificate to clear any misunderstanding in my request for help. Honour hill left a will about Wagg gardens or orchard to her kin folk known as Windsor, please someone help me. Thanks for my confusing letter, hope the right person can understand it, and may put me in touch with someone in the family down there and we can clear this matter up. Thanks sandy

Hello I am writing to see if anyone can try and explain a situation which I cannot understand in my husband's family down in Langport , Somerset It starts with honour hill Marry a john Edwards in Huish Episcope, Somerset on the 5th march 1777 they had the following children: Thomas 1784 Mary 1779 Betty 1779 John 1782 Now Thomas born 1784 married Elizabeth Bernard and they had the following children John 1806 Leah 1808 James 1812 Rachael 1819 Winifred 1820 Elizabeth 1826 Thomas 1815 Now all these children have the surname of EDWARDS. Thomas Edwards born 1815 married Sarah Prior/ Windsor to which I can find a married to in the name of Prior or Windsor, to Thomas Edwards. Was this lady married twice. They had eight children, this is where the confused has set in. One of their children called Sampson born 1847 is known as Sampson Windsor . his birth certificates say his mother maiden name is Prior and father as Thomas Windsor surely it would be Edwards but is Windsor. So why would the father name her name and use his, has any one any ideas that can help me sort this out and understand, I am willing to send birth certificate to clear any misunderstanding in my request for help. Honour hill left a will about Wagg gardens or orchard to her kin folk known as Windsor, please someone help me. Thanks for my confusing letter, hope the right person can understand it, and may put me in touch with someone in the family down there and we can clear this matter up. Thanks sandy

Hello Jenny, By coincidence, the February edition of the Chew Valley Gazette (a free, monthly, newspaper) carried an appeal from Peter Forrester for information on this air crash. I didn't notice the appeal at the time, but my attention was drawn by the follow-up in the March edition, which contains some of the information which Mr. Forrester has been sent. It is mainly eye witness accounts, and nothing about the inquests. Apparently Mr Forrester is writing a book on aircraft crashes with a Somerset connection, since the end of WWII. It is due to be released in October. He published his email address: [email protected] , and the Chew Valley Gazette can be contacted at [email protected] . Do you live near the Chew Valley area? The Gazette offices are in Chew Magna, and the paper is available through many outlets in the Chew Valley and Wrington Vale area - village shops, farm shops, tea rooms, etc. Dundry is about the furthest place to the north, and Chewton Mendip to the south. I hope this helps your quest. Best wishes, Marian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Davis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 1:51 PM Subject: [ENG-SOM] Air accident at Chew Magna in 1975 > Dear Listers, > > On 07 Jun 1975 a light aircraft crashed on the outskirts of Chew Magna and > the two occupants, one a Mr.J Hamilton, died. There would undoubtedly have > been an inquest on these deaths. Can any lister please point me to where I > might find details of the inquest? I dare say the local press would have > reported, but at this stage I've no idea about the date of such inquest. > > Thanks > Jenny > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In this month's update FreeCEN has had the following pieces added to the database: 1861 Somerset RG9/1614 North Curry Parishes of Hatch Beauchamp, West Hatch, Thorne Falcon, North Curry 1861 Somerset RG9/1633 Ilminster Parishes of Shepton Beauchamp, Seavington St Mich, Seavington St Mary, White Lackington, Kingstone, Dowlish Wake, West Dowlish, Cricket Malherbie, Donyatt, Ilton, Ashill, Broadway 1861 Somerset RG9/1697 Batheaston Parishes of Bathford, Batheaston, St Catherine, Swainswick 1861 Somerset RG9/1704 Bedminster Parish of Bedminster 1871 Somerset RG10/2378 Bishops Lydeard Parishes of Ash Priors, Combe Florey, Tolland, Lydeard St Lawrence, West Bagborough 1891 Gloucestershire RG12/1963 Bristol Parish of St James In 1891 Gloucestershire RG12/1999 Thornbury Parishes of Cromhall, Cross Ways, Falfield, Morton, Oldbury on Severn, Rangeworthy, Rockhampton, Thornbury, Tytherington Regards Geoff Jarvis FreeCEN Coordinator Somerset (1841 - 1871) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~somtcen/

>From The York Herald, and General Advertiser ( York, England ), Saturday, January 15, 1814; Issue 1220. DEATH. Lately, at St. Audries, in the county of Somerset, after a long illness, George BALCH , Esq., the last male descendant of an opulent, ancient and highly respectable family in that county.

Afternoon all, www.wsom.org.uk has just had Taunton St. Mary Mag marriages taken forward to 1837 to the change of Register point. I will be carrying on with these records until about 1850 to get an overlap with national Registration. Cheers, Martin Southwood

>From The Standard ( London, England ), Saturday, November 08, 1879; pg.[1] Issue 17254. MARRIAGE. DUNN - DEMPSTER. - Oct. 30, at All Saints, Hatcham Park, by the vicar, the Rev. Gardiner SMITH , assisted by the Rev. Paxton THORP , Adam DUNN , Esquire, R. N., of Weston-super-Mare, to Catherine Elizabeth, of Adelaide House, Queen's-road, Peckham, eldest daughter of the late John Smith DEMPSTER , of Turnham-green, Middlesex, and Tetsworth, Oxfordshire.

Thank you Jim Parsons and Charani for your responses, they open up a few more avenues of research. I don't yet know who the parents are so there's hope I can find him outside of Wellington. Also, a thank you to Meg Naylor for the Phillimores link. From Archive.org you can download several Phillimore registers but not for some parts of Somerset. The link you provided seems complete. You folks are great! Cheers

Please be aware that records marked as happening in Abbotts Leigh and Walcot may NOT be correct. LDS are aware and are, hopefully, correcting them.

It was (and in some families still is) common for the first child to be Baptised/Christened in the home Parish of the mother. A child could be born in Wellington and his baptism or christening might take place in Taunton if that was the home Parish of his mother. It would appear that at marriage he was not ordinarily resident in Wellington, hence his description as a sojourner. Another possibilty reharding baptism/christening. His parents may have been non-conformists. Somerset at this time (and still today) had/has many non-con churches and chapels. Jim http://www.payman.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk OPC HORNINGSHAM and CORSLEY (Wilts) OPC MILTON CLEVEDON (Somerset) FreeReg Co-ord Wiltshire Hundreds Manager Dorset, Devon, Wilts & Gloucs ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 10:53 AM Subject: [ENG-SOM] Parish or place of birth > Hello everyone > I have questions concerning an ancestors place of birth in 1790. This > ancestor stated on two consecutive census returns that his place of > birth was Wellington, Somerset. At the time of his marriage, in > Wellington, he is identified as a sojourner. At this time I can't > positively identify his baptism in any Wellington transcripts. I have > sent for birth registries for three people of the same name born in that > time frame and none seem to fit. His descendants have been relatively > easy to trace and I have met several cousins in the process! I'm hoping > that there is something I've missed with parish or municipal boundaries > or something that only the 'locals' may be aware of. > > My questions are as follows; Is it possible that parish boundaries > were different at that time in Wellington? > Are there small villages near > Wellington that may have been considered a part of Wellington? > > Any help is greatly appreciated. > > Mike > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My genealogy program allows me to enter multiple names for the same person so I enter it as an Alias or AKA in addition I also enter nicknames etc and in the case of females I also enter married names so however I key in a search for a particular person I will find them. For some of my entrants I have as many as 5-6 names recorded but the primary name is always from the christening or baptism record. -----Original Message----- From: Jean-Marie Dessaux Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 12:48 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Badcock/Babcock My gg father born MOREY in Somerset chose his mother's name DAVIDGE once in Jersey , I entered him as MOREY-DAVIDGE. Jean-Marie -----Message d'origine----- De : [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] De la part de Christine Poole Envoyé : dimanche 13 février 2011 22:20 À : ENG-SOMERSET-L Objet : [ENG-SOM] Badcock/Babcock How do you enter in your records when a person changes their last name (I don't think it was done legally)? How is it entered in our records? I am not sure when this was done. Thanks, Christine ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Afternoon all, www.wsom.org.uk has just had Taunton St. Mary Mag marriages for 1820-1829 added. I will be doing 1830-1837 next, then the newer layout for 1837 to 1850 eventually. Cheers, Martin Southwood

[email protected] wrote: > I have questions concerning an ancestors place of birth in 1790. This > ancestor stated on two consecutive census returns that his place of > birth was Wellington, Somerset. At the time of his marriage, in > Wellington, he is identified as a sojourner. A sojourner was someone who was temporarily resident in a place so Wellington would not have been his place of birth, nor necessarily his parish either. Have you had a look on FreeREG to see if your man is listed there. Select Somerset as the county but not a place. It could be worth adding Gloucestershire, Wiltshire, Devon, Dorset and Cornwall as well. IIRC, FreeREG is updated every month so if he's not there now, try again next month. If you put your man's name on the list, maybe someone will be able to find him or perhaps connect with him in some way. The IGI might also prove a finding aid, but be very careful with any patron submissions. They can vary from total accuracy to pure fiction. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Thanks to Anne, Dianne and Duncan for their replies. I'll write to Taunton Register Office and ask the question. Pat Molloy

Hello everyone I have questions concerning an ancestors place of birth in 1790. This ancestor stated on two consecutive census returns that his place of birth was Wellington, Somerset. At the time of his marriage, in Wellington, he is identified as a sojourner. At this time I can't positively identify his baptism in any Wellington transcripts. I have sent for birth registries for three people of the same name born in that time frame and none seem to fit. His descendants have been relatively easy to trace and I have met several cousins in the process! I'm hoping that there is something I've missed with parish or municipal boundaries or something that only the 'locals' may be aware of. My questions are as follows; Is it possible that parish boundaries were different at that time in Wellington? Are there small villages near Wellington that may have been considered a part of Wellington? Any help is greatly appreciated. Mike