Hello Mike Both the FamilySearch.org and Ancestry databases have a Fanny Rebecca GERRISH baptised 14 Feb 1864 in Melksham, Wiltshire, England. Parents were John GERRISH and Mary. Appears to be a reliable extraction from parish registers. Could Floorie be Fanny ?? Two possible marriages - need more investigation. There are other possibilities in Wiltshire.: John GERRISH m Mary Hobbs COOPER 1864 St James, Bristol. John Henry GERRISH m Mary SHORT 3 May 1864 St Peter, Bristol. Cheers Ian Logan ----- Original Message ----- From: "pyd_zac7" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:49 AM Subject: [ENG-SOM] A family brick wall > > Having spent many hours trawling through the BDM records and Censuses > trying to track down my Step Grandmother who married my grandfather in > 1906 in Weston Super Mare I have now have to admit defeat in confirming > when she was born and if and when her parents married in Bristol > > The marriage certificate of my grandfather Henry Rose states my step > G/mother Florrie Gerrish was aged 43 therefore born in 1863 and that her > father was John Gerrish a Cab Proprietor was deceased. > > All the indications are that they originated in Clifton Bristol BUT I > cannot find her actual birth records in 1863 > There appears to be two John Gerrish marrying in 1864 a Mary Short who > had a daughter Mary Ann and the second John Gerrish marrying a Rosabella > Dyer. BUT again cannot find any trace of them in subsequent censuses. > > Except for a married John Gerrish - a Fly driver in 1881 without any > family living with him in Bristol. The only possibilty seems to be that > before the Rosabella married John in 1864 there was an unnamed female > Dyer child born in the Jul Aug Sep quarter which would coincide with > Florries Birth date of 3rd August 1863 which I obtained from the Old > Folks home where she died in 1952. > > It is very frustrating not to be able to find a trace of John Gerrish > before or after 1881 census and also for Florrie Gerrish before she > married my grandfather > > The marriage of my grandfather took place in the Wadham Street Baptist > Church in Weston Super Mare which is now a civic theatre and I wonder if > any knowleable lister can tell me if any records still exist for this > church and if the wedding couple may have had to provide any documents > to substantiate who and what they were - hopefully a birth certificate > which might give me a clue > > I hope this is not too long a question and thanks to anyone who can assist > > Mike . > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Perhaps some of those messages are in the Archives: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-SOMERSET.html Yvonne Scrivener Canberra ACT Australia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pam Cole > When this info came to light in 2004, Somerset Listers sent advice > and even maps. Since then, however, several life-changes including > moving house twice and settling interstate, changing computers..... > and you can guess the rest! Yes, all lost, apart from the information > above.

A friend who has lived in the vicinity of Dulverton all of his life tells me that there is no building he knows of called Dulverton Manor. We are assuming that they are using the expression as in Lord of the Manor as a piece of land, an area. The 'seat' would likely have been Pixton owned by the Carnarvons (relatives of the Carnarvon involved in Tutankhamon). The area around was developed, a railway brought in and a hotel built at Brushford to deliver their friends from London for shooting and hunting etc. The railway has gone now and the hotel converted into flats (Carnarvon Arms). New Invention seems to have been two houses at one time probably knocked into one. It cannot be seen from the road but the suggestion is to walk up from Marsh Bridge to get a look at it. We cannot offer a suggestion as to where the name came from but we have found a relative of someone who lived there once and will get back to you with anything we find. Philip Maddocks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Cole" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] ACLAND, WEST, BOUCHER, DYER Thank you Philip for the map advice...wonderful! Combined with help from Tony and Lorraine, yet another of our "Somerset Puzzles" has been clarified. Pam in Yack. Origi Saturday, September 10, 2011, 11:24:35 AM, you wrote: > In 1709 the brothers Joshua, Francis and Baldwin ACLAND leased some > plots of land named New Invention and Camworthy, from one Humphrey > SYDENHAM. This land had been part of Dulverton Manor. > When this info came to light in 2004, Somerset Listers sent advice > and even maps. Since then, however, several life-changes including > moving house twice and settling interstate, changing computers..... > and you can guess the rest! Yes, all lost, apart from the information > above. > So my question is, can SKS help with the "where and what" of this New > Invention place? > Pam in Yack. -- Regards, TonyM mailto:[email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry Mike, I meant to write Dear Mike, not Dear Tony -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Fry Sent: Sunday, 18 September 2011 9:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] ADMIN PLEASE READ On 2011/09/18 08:30, Kathryn wrote: > Dear Tony, > Unfortunately you are about three hours too late. Now what? > Kathryn > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony M > Sent: Sunday, 18 September 2011 3:03 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ENG-SOM] ADMIN PLEASE READ > > Warning do not open message from Diana Statt<[email protected] > with NO SUBECT! her address has been highjacked!! > I am trying to get the message removed! Messages exactly like this *can* be opened with relative safety - so long as you use a text email reader. Just don't click on any links inside the message :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3903 - Release Date: 09/17/11

Thanks Tony, I didn't click on a link and I re-ran my security programme, so I think all is fine. But thanks again, Kathryn -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Fry Sent: Sunday, 18 September 2011 9:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] ADMIN PLEASE READ On 2011/09/18 08:30, Kathryn wrote: > Dear Tony, > Unfortunately you are about three hours too late. Now what? > Kathryn > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony M > Sent: Sunday, 18 September 2011 3:03 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ENG-SOM] ADMIN PLEASE READ > > Warning do not open message from Diana Statt<[email protected] > with NO SUBECT! her address has been highjacked!! > I am trying to get the message removed! Messages exactly like this *can* be opened with relative safety - so long as you use a text email reader. Just don't click on any links inside the message :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3903 - Release Date: 09/17/11

Dear Tony, Unfortunately you are about three hours too late. Now what? Kathryn -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony M Sent: Sunday, 18 September 2011 3:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-SOM] ADMIN PLEASE READ Warning do not open message from Diana Statt <[email protected] with NO SUBECT! her address has been highjacked!! I am trying to get the message removed! -- Tony M List Admin ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3903 - Release Date: 09/17/11

Dear all, A family history gathering (aka "bunfight") is being held this year on October 15th at the Salthouse, Clevedon. It's open to anyone with an interest in family history in the Bristol/Somerset/Gloucestershire region, and there is still room to accept new bookings if you are interested to join us. There are some details of the event on the web page at http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/ian.sage/Bunfight where you can find out who is already attending, location, food arrangements and so on. If you are interested in coming along and have not already signed up, please email me at [email protected] as soon as you are able, and I'll look forward to seeing as many as possible at Clevedon. Best wishes to all, Ian

Warning do not open message from Diana Statt <[email protected] with NO SUBECT! her address has been highjacked!! I am trying to get the message removed! -- Tony M List Admin

Thank you Philip for the map advice...wonderful! Combined with help from Tony and Lorraine, yet another of our "Somerset Puzzles" has been clarified. Pam in Yack.  Origi Saturday, September 10, 2011, 11:24:35 AM, you wrote: > In 1709 the brothers Joshua, Francis and Baldwin ACLAND leased some > plots of land named New Invention and Camworthy, from one Humphrey > SYDENHAM. This land had been part of Dulverton Manor. > When this info came to light in 2004, Somerset Listers sent advice > and even maps. Since then, however, several life-changes including > moving house twice and settling interstate, changing computers..... > and you can guess the rest! Yes, all lost, apart from the information > above. > So my question is, can SKS help with the "where and what" of this New > Invention place? > Pam in Yack. -- Regards, TonyM mailto:[email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 2011/09/18 08:30, Kathryn wrote: > Dear Tony, > Unfortunately you are about three hours too late. Now what? > Kathryn > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony M > Sent: Sunday, 18 September 2011 3:03 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ENG-SOM] ADMIN PLEASE READ > > Warning do not open message from Diana Statt<[email protected] > with NO SUBECT! her address has been highjacked!! > I am trying to get the message removed! Messages exactly like this *can* be opened with relative safety - so long as you use a text email reader. Just don't click on any links inside the message :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

Hi Interrested in the Stogursey and Stolford Webber famiy Richard Webber born c1766 and his wife Elizabeth Tucker. Also the family of Captain Robert Evans who was lost along with his ship "Colombo" in the Calcuttta storm in October 1864. Hav several newspapers accounts but do not have the memorial to Robert Evans born c1827 possibly at Bristol but have no real area. he was married to Mary Ann tucker of Bedminster. Any information on this family would be helpful. I beleive there is a memorial certificate to Robert Evans which hasn't been seen by some family members. Edie McArthur

Thank you Marian for your reply. I have contacted the Baber site,and had good look at it without success. I do get a Baber up date every now and again, so here's hoping . Patricia from Victoria, Australia.

Hello Patricia, Have you looked at the BABER family tree site? It's at http://baberfamilytree.org/ . I had a quick look and didn't find your ancestor, but you may have more luck. If she's not there, it would be worth contacting the people who run the site anyway, as they may be able to help you. Regards, Marian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Bates" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 2:46 AM Subject: [ENG-SOM] Baber and Star > Hi Listers, > > This is my first post and am hoping someone may be able to help, please. > > My GGG Grand parents were JOHN STAR [bc1735] and ANN BABER [bc1735] > married > 1758, St Andrew's Cheddar. : : > Patricia

Hi Listers, This is my first post and am hoping someone may be able to help, please. My GGG Grand parents were JOHN STAR [bc1735] and ANN BABER [bc1735] married 1758, St Andrew's Cheddar. They had 4 children, all born Cheddar :- 1. HANNAH GARDENER STAR b1762. Cheddar. 2. GARDNER STAR b1764. Cheddar. 3. BABER STAR b1768. Cheddar. 4. ANN STAR b1770. Cheddar. GARDNER STAR [my GG Grand father] had 6 children with SOPHIA DAY, between 1799 and 1812 in Cheddar. I would be very pleased if a Member is able to help me with any information about my Star Family, in particular ANN BABER and SOPHIA DAY. Thank you. Patricia

Hi Pam, New Invention appears to be a stately house about three miles North West of Dulveston. It is viewable on Google Earth, but not clearly defined on Streetwise because of a large amount of shrubbery. Regards, Tony in Bright. Saturday, September 10, 2011, 11:24:35 AM, you wrote: > In 1709 the brothers Joshua, Francis and Baldwin ACLAND leased some > plots of land named New Invention and Camworthy, from one Humphrey > SYDENHAM. This land had been part of Dulverton Manor. > When this info came to light in 2004, Somerset Listers sent advice > and even maps. Since then, however, several life-changes including > moving house twice and settling interstate, changing computers..... > and you can guess the rest! Yes, all lost, apart from the information above. > So my question is, can SKS help with the "where and what" of this New Invention place? > Pam in Yack. -- Regards, TonyM mailto:[email protected]

Hello, I participate with a study of an uncommon Y-Haplogroup on FamilyTreeDNA. There is a theory that the several members of that "Superfamily a" may have a very early common ancestor in Somerset area. DYER is one those surnames; mine is another. I have a couple of relative recent listings for CRAGO. I do have known early roots , 17th century, in Cornwall, and possiblly Wales. My Y-Haplogroup is R1b1b2a1a1a. The short notation is: R-U198. I am thinking that my Haplogroup is actually Celtic/Gaelic in origin. Some variations of my surname are the these:CRUGYOW, CRAGO, CRAGOE, CRAIGO, CREGOW, CREGO, CREGOE, and maybe in some way this Celtic name from Ireland: Craggauowen Celtic Living History Museum, near Craggauowen Castle, Ireland. Steade

Try Streetmap.co.uk you get the ordnance survey map, it is very clear. I will ask a friend who lives in the town on Wednesday to see if he can shed any light on this. Philip Maddocks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Cole" <[email protected]> To: "TonyM" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] ACLAND, WEST, BOUCHER, DYER Tony thank you! At last we know the "where"...and maybe even the "what" of that puzzle. kind regards, Pam in Yack --- On Sun, 11/9/11, TonyM <[email protected]> wrote: From: TonyM <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] ACLAND, WEST, BOUCHER, DYER To: "Pam Cole" <[email protected]> Received: Sunday, 11 September, 2011, 3:30 PM Hi Pam, New Invention appears to be a stately house about three miles North West of Dulveston. It is viewable on Google Earth, but not clearly defined on Streetwise because of a large amount of shrubbery. Regards, Tony in Bright. Saturday, September 10, 2011, 11:24:35 AM, you wrote: > In 1709 the brothers Joshua, Francis and Baldwin ACLAND leased some > plots of land named New Invention and Camworthy, from one Humphrey > SYDENHAM. This land had been part of Dulverton Manor. > When this info came to light in 2004, Somerset Listers sent advice > and even maps. Since then, however, several life-changes including > moving house twice and settling interstate, changing computers..... > and you can guess the rest! Yes, all lost, apart from the information > above. > So my question is, can SKS help with the "where and what" of this New > Invention place? > Pam in Yack. -- Regards, TonyM mailto:[email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tony thank you! At last we know the "where"...and maybe even the "what" of that puzzle. kind regards, Pam in Yack --- On Sun, 11/9/11, TonyM <[email protected]> wrote: From: TonyM <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] ACLAND, WEST, BOUCHER, DYER To: "Pam Cole" <[email protected]> Received: Sunday, 11 September, 2011, 3:30 PM Hi Pam, New  Invention  appears  to be a stately house about three miles North West  of  Dulveston.  It  is viewable on Google Earth, but not clearly defined on Streetwise because of a large amount of shrubbery. Regards, Tony in Bright. Saturday, September 10, 2011, 11:24:35 AM, you wrote: > In 1709 the brothers Joshua, Francis and Baldwin ACLAND leased some > plots of land named New Invention and Camworthy, from one Humphrey > SYDENHAM. This land had been part of Dulverton Manor. > When this info came to light in 2004, Somerset Listers sent advice > and even maps. Since then, however, several life-changes including > moving house twice and settling interstate, changing computers..... > and you can guess the rest! Yes, all lost, apart from the information above. > So my question is, can SKS help with the "where and what" of this New Invention place? > Pam in Yack. -- Regards, TonyM                            mailto:[email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Lorraine for the tip to try the archives for that "lost" map re Dulverton Manor. I did that and found several items of interest, including my thankyou to some kind person named Sue, who'd sent me a 1900 map reference....BUT, alas,in that thread was the thankyou only, not the message she'd sent me. I'm trying to find the location of a patch of land leased by the brothers ACLAND [Josh, Francis, and Baldwin], from one Humphrey Sydenham, in 1709. The plots of land were called New Invention and Camworthy. There was also in the archives an amusing to-and-fro of emails about the old legend of a highwayman, and suggestions the name New Invention may have come from the Industrial Revolution, with a lovely notion of the Spinning Jenny being superseded by the "gently revolving Margaret". Thanks again for those replies, way back in 2004. Can anyone help further please? Pam in Yack      

Evening all, www.wsom.org.uk has just been updated with Bicknoller Baptisms taken back to 1630, also Taunton St. James' Baptisms and Burials taken back to 1718. I intend to get St. James Baptisms back further and will probably then start on West Monkton (just outside Taunton). Enjoy, Martin Southwood