Afternoon all, www.wsom.org.uk has been updated with Taunton St. James Baptisms 1694 to 1700 and Burials 1698 to 1718. Before these dates the writing was getting pretty poor and they used a lot of "a child of (fathers name)" without stating the child's name. Now on to West Monkton. Cheers, Martin Southwood

Hi   Just reposting my interests...   The earliest Denman I have on my tree is William Denman, a poulterer, born c1766. We believe that this William Denman was born in Lopen. He married Elizabeth Maning in Stoke St Gregory on 30.12.1795. They had 3 sons: William (b.1797), Charles (b.1800) and Denis (b.1802). William (b.1797) married (1818) Sarah Saunders of Staplegrove. William and Sarah had 6 children: Dennis (bap.8.2.1824), Charles (bap.23.4.1826), Anne (bap.29.3.1829), Alexander House (bap.18.3.1832), Caroline (bap.5.10.1834), and Sarah Jane (b.26.3.1838). William was a farrier.   Charles (b.1826) married Mary Ann Broom, (b.1830, daughter of James and Martha Broom nee Baskett). Charles was a carpenter. Charles and Mary had 11 children: Elias Andrew (bap.1850), Dennis Andrew (b.c1851) (Dennis & Elias may be the same person), George (b.c1853), Harry (b.1855), Alexander (b.1857), Austin (b.1860), Lucy Ann (b.1862), John (b.c1861), William (b.1864), Sidney Charles (b.1868), and Francis (b.1872).   When the 1861 census was taken, Charles and family were living at Haymans Barton, North Curry. By 1871, they had moved to the Wesleyan Chapel, 1 Windmill Hill, North Curry, and were still there at the time of the 1901 census. It seemed a strange place to live, so I contacted the Reverend Haley Moore of the Chapel, who was able to confirm that there was indeed a builder/carpenter attached to the Chapel around this time. A fellow Rootsweb lister told me that her grandfather had a workshop at the back of the Chapel.   Charles and Mary's son Alexander (b.1857) moved to Taunton and married Sarah Allen (b.1853) on 11.6.1878.   I would be very interested to hear from anyone who has an interest in the Denman family! Kind regards Liz Jones

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For those with an interest, I have just posted the first part of a Christ Church marriages transcription on line at: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/ian.sage These records are retained at the church, so are not available at Taunton and have been made available by kind permission of the Church Wardens. Ian

Hi Thanks to those people that assisted me with the lookup of 1891 census for Edwin Mabey . I have sent seperate email to some people Ron Chesney

Ronald, I believe that Edward is in fact Edwin, from Edwins Army record: Signed on Nov 1887 at Taunton Somerset Light Infantry (previous done 5 year apprenticeship probably as a Carpenter) Served Gibraltar Nov 1891 - 1893, East Indies 1893 - 1895 and South Africa 1899 - 1900 Next of Kin: Father - Solomon, Mother - Elizabeth and sisters Mary Ellen, Rose Left at end of period a Lance Corporal in 1900 He would have been in barracks in 1891 with the Somerset L I The above is taken from WO97 Chelsea Pension records(National Archives) available from FindMyPast Re-enlisted Feb 1915 at Haselbury, immediately promoted to Lance Corporal (to Corporal in 1916) serve at home the whole period, demobilised 1919. Next of Kin: Annie Elizabeth Mabey (Haselbury) Married 7/5/98 at ???errett nr illegible, child illegibe Edna 25/9/08 Occupation: Carpenter The above is taken from WW1 service records (burnt records) at National Archives available from Ancestry. Hope the above helps Bob Hills -----Original Message----- Hi Has anyone got access to the original census pages

Good evening Can anyone tell me what The Knoll at Faulkland would have been in 1880? It is given as the residence of a [probably poor] family on the baptism of a child at Hemington, and the father was a mason. Would it have been a house or maybe an estate or something? I have tried googling and come up with a shop, but no images, and no history. If anyone has any links or information I would be grateful. Carol

Hi Has anyone got access to the original census pages I have been lookin up a Edwin Mabey born Haselbury Plunkett Somerset in 1867 I found him in the 1881 Census living at home age 14 years.in Haselbury Plunkett Somerset In 1888 his occupation was a Soldier I looked on the Free Census web site and found a Edward Mabey Age 23 Private in the Army Infantry in Farnborough. Born Haselbury Plunkett Somerset. I can not find any record of a Edward Mabey born Haselbury Plunkett Somerset. on the FreeBDM web Site. he would have been registered in Yeovil Somerset I know Edwin Mabey could have go overseas while in the Army but if someome could check the spelling of the name in the 1981 Census to see if it could be Edwin and not Edward TIA Ronald Chesney [email protected]

Hi I am looking for anyone who has any connections to the Catchpole family who originally came from Norfolk and Settled in Somerset. Regards Bob newell

Hi Ronald I have looked at the image of the census page and the name as written is definitely Edward Mabey, aged 23 and born Hazelbury Somerset. I strongly suspect that this is the Edwin you are looking for and that the first name has been recorded incorrectly - it is interesting to note that the entries above and below both also show the first name Edward. He is shown as a private in the Somerset Infantry, which may be a starting point for confirming the correct name. I have no specific knowledge here but a place to begin looking may be www.britisharmedforces.org which has a section on the Somerset Light Infantry. Hope this helps Kind regards Ian Ian H Burns Monkton Combe, Bath -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 07 October 2011 08:01 To: [email protected] Subject: ENG-SOMERSET Digest, Vol 6, Issue 170 Today's Topics: 1. 1891 Census lookup (Ronald Chesney) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 16:06:59 +1100 From: "Ronald Chesney" <[email protected]> Subject: [ENG-SOM] 1891 Census lookup To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Has anyone got access to the original census pages I have been lookin up a Edwin Mabey born Haselbury Plunkett Somerset in 1867 I found him in the 1881 Census living at home age 14 years.in Haselbury Plunkett Somerset In 1888 his occupation was a Soldier I looked on the Free Census web site and found a Edward Mabey Age 23 Private in the Army Infantry in Farnborough. Born Haselbury Plunkett Somerset. I can not find any record of a Edward Mabey born Haselbury Plunkett Somerset. on the FreeBDM web Site. he would have been registered in Yeovil Somerset I know Edwin Mabey could have go overseas while in the Army but if someome could check the spelling of the name in the 1981 Census to see if it could be Edwin and not Edward TIA Ronald Chesney [email protected] ------------------------------ To contact the ENG-SOMERSET list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the ENG-SOMERSET mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of ENG-SOMERSET Digest, Vol 6, Issue 170 ********************************************

Its definitely "Edwin" in both 1881 and 1871 census: In 1881 we have, living at Yeabridge, South Petherton, Somerset: Solomon Mabey - Head - Mar - age 46 - Groom - born Haselbury Elizth Mabey - Wife - Mar - age 40 - no occ - born East Chinnock Edwin Mabey - Son - - Age 14 - ag lab - born Haselbury Mary Mabey - Dau - - age 13 - Scholar - born Haselbury Ellen A Mabey - Dau - age 8 - scholar - born Haselbury Rose A Mabey - Dau - age 3 - scholar - born Haselbury In 1871 we have the same family (less Ellen & Rose of course!) spelt "Maby" living at Lodge Cottage, Haselbury Plucknet, Somerset Solomon is a "coachman" aged 35, Elizabeth age 30 is a glover, Edwin age 3 is a scholar, and Mary aged 2 has no occupation. I can't find him in the 1891 census But he's living with his wife Annie E in North Street, Haselbury Plucknet in 1901: Edwin Mabey - Head - M - 33 - Carpenter on estate - worker - born Som't Haselbury Annie E Mabey - wife - M - 25 - - - born Som't Haselbury There is an Edwin Mabey registered at Yeovil RD in the September Quarter of 1867 (Vol 5c Page 479) I'm not convinced your soldier is the same man. BobH ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 16:06:59 +1100 From: "Ronald Chesney" <[email protected]> Subject: [ENG-SOM] 1891 Census lookup To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Has anyone got access to the original census pages I have been lookin up a Edwin Mabey born Haselbury Plunkett Somerset in 1867 I found him in the 1881 Census living at home age 14 years.in Haselbury Plunkett Somerset In 1888 his occupation was a Soldier I looked on the Free Census web site and found a Edward Mabey Age 23 Private in the Army Infantry in Farnborough. Born Haselbury Plunkett Somerset. I can not find any record of a Edward Mabey born Haselbury Plunkett Somerset. on the FreeBDM web Site. he would have been registered in Yeovil Somerset I know Edwin Mabey could have go overseas while in the Army but if someome could check the spelling of the name in the 1981 Census to see if it could be Edwin and not Edward TIA Ronald Chesney [email protected]

Ronald, Edward Mabey is in Farnborough, Hampshire with the army in 1891. Hope that this helps. Margaret

Morning all Another of my way out branches on a tree. [I think] I have a Thomas BURNER c 1889 born South Pool, Devon s/o William Thomas BURNER and Sarah Jane WOOD. Where does Thomas get to? Well............he just might be Thomas H. BURNER aged 67 of ...............? Farm, Culmstock? whose death is Registered Jan-Mar 1956 at Taunton in Somerset. If he is the same bloke and I am sure he is then he was buried in South Pool, Devon on the 20 March 1956 aged 67 which would then make it possible for him to be my Thomas Henry BURNER birth Reg Kingsbridge Dec q 1888 Heres hoping someone has him firmly tracked and can confirm my suspicions. Wet and cold here and back into old territory. Regards Beverley Edmonds Researching all EDMONDS anywhere in Devon

Morning all, www.wsom.org.uk has been updated with Taunton St. James Baptisms taken back to 1700. There will be a few 1690s Baptisms put in later but the writing is getting pretty poor and I hope to start on West Monkton next week. Cheers, Martin Southwood

From The Bristol Mercury ( Bristol, England ), Saturday, August 10, 1850; Issue 3151. DIED. In October last, at New Orleans, aged 29, Mr. John REES , mariner, formerly of this port. May 30, aged 20, drowned at sea, off the Three Points, on the coast of Africa, John Wiltshire , eldest son of Mr. Saml. BRYANT , surgeon, of this city.

Hi! I have changed my e-mail address to [email protected] .. This gives me an opportunity to again thank all of those wonderful people who have so readily helped me in the past. Best wishes. Ron.Johnson

The marriage records do still exist for Wadham Street Baptist - although it was bombed during the war - I understand that copies of the Marriage Registers are in the Register Office in Weston, but I doubt if any other records are available with them. The Register Office 41 Boulevard Weston-super-Mare BS23 1PG Email: [email protected] Telephone: 01934 627 552 Florrie might be Flora but I can't find a Flora GERRISH either. I see that there is a Florence GERRISH of the right age as a Nurse in a household in Leighton Buzzard in 1891 and with another family in Marsworth, Buckinghamshire in 1901 - In both instances she was born in Clifton, Bristol. I'll keep a look out for her - I have the name GERRISH married into my family but none that meet your requirements at the moment! Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "pyd_zac7" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:49 AM Subject: [ENG-SOM] A family brick wall > Having spent many hours trawling through the BDM records and Censuses > trying to track down my Step Grandmother who married my grandfather in > 1906 in Weston Super Mare I have now have to admit defeat in confirming > when she was born and if and when her parents married in Bristol > > The marriage certificate of my grandfather Henry Rose states my step > G/mother Florrie Gerrish was aged 43 therefore born in 1863 and that her > father was John Gerrish a Cab Proprietor was deceased. > <snip> >

Having spent many hours trawling through the BDM records and Censuses trying to track down my Step Grandmother who married my grandfather in 1906 in Weston Super Mare I have now have to admit defeat in confirming when she was born and if and when her parents married in Bristol The marriage certificate of my grandfather Henry Rose states my step G/mother Florrie Gerrish was aged 43 therefore born in 1863 and that her father was John Gerrish a Cab Proprietor was deceased. All the indications are that they originated in Clifton Bristol BUT I cannot find her actual birth records in 1863 There appears to be two John Gerrish marrying in 1864 a Mary Short who had a daughter Mary Ann and the second John Gerrish marrying a Rosabella Dyer. BUT again cannot find any trace of them in subsequent censuses. Except for a married John Gerrish - a Fly driver in 1881 without any family living with him in Bristol. The only possibilty seems to be that before the Rosabella married John in 1864 there was an unnamed female Dyer child born in the Jul Aug Sep quarter which would coincide with Florries Birth date of 3rd August 1863 which I obtained from the Old Folks home where she died in 1952. It is very frustrating not to be able to find a trace of John Gerrish before or after 1881 census and also for Florrie Gerrish before she married my grandfather The marriage of my grandfather took place in the Wadham Street Baptist Church in Weston Super Mare which is now a civic theatre and I wonder if any knowleable lister can tell me if any records still exist for this church and if the wedding couple may have had to provide any documents to substantiate who and what they were - hopefully a birth certificate which might give me a clue I hope this is not too long a question and thanks to anyone who can assist Mike .

Hello, While we are on the subject of brick walls, I would appreciate any suggestions from other researchers. I am stumped by how to locate my 3rd great grandfather, Samuel Rawlins, a watch finisher, who baptized three of his children in 1845 in Islington. I believe that these children may have been born in Ireland. Samuel's son, also a Samuel reported in the US 1880 census that he was born in Ireland to English parents. The baptismal record states that Samuel jr. was born in 1839, his brother Alfred in 1842 and sister Mary in 1844. I would have assumed that these folks were from Islington, except that hundreds of people in the watch and clock trade descended upon Clerkenwell in 1845 to protest mechanization and foreign influence. Several years ago, I found a Samuel Rawlins born in Yeovil in 1773 who had gone to Ireland, married and gotten into trouble. His father, a Dr. Thomas Rawlins corresponded with authorities in Dublin on behalf of his young son.. There are a few Samuel Rawlins who appear in early census records in Somerset, but none that I can find who were "watch finishers'. I have not found any of the children in the GRO records. The family does not appear in tact in any census record. Samuel jr. left Ireland for the US in 1867, He worked on cargo ships for several years. He came into England sometime in 1871 and left again in 1872 accompanied by a watchmaker from Wolverhampton. Here in the US, he married a German woman. He died at the young age of 45 not leaving us much to go on. The baptismal record states that Samuel Rawlins Sr. married a woman named Mary? I have identified a few possible marriages but none that appear to "pan out".There is a marriage to a Mary Ann in Bristol listed on the Familysearch site. What to do next??? It is a challenge. I have ordered a few death records from the GRO but to date have not found any information that might reveal a link. I am ready for Divine intervention!!! Thank you all for listening. Bev W -----Original Message----- From: Pat Hase <[email protected]> To: eng-somerset <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Sep 19, 2011 4:03 pm Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] A family brick wall The marriage records do still exist for Wadham Street Baptist - although it as bombed during the war - I understand that copies of the Marriage egisters are in the Register Office in Weston, but I doubt if any other ecords are available with them. The Register Office 1 Boulevard eston-super-Mare S23 1PG Email: [email protected] Telephone: 01934 627 552 Florrie might be Flora but I can't find a Flora GERRISH either. I see that there is a Florence GERRISH of the right age as a Nurse in a ousehold in Leighton Buzzard in 1891 and with another family in Marsworth, uckinghamshire in 1901 - In both instances she was born in Clifton, ristol. I'll keep a look out for her - I have the name GERRISH married into my amily but none that meet your requirements at the moment! Pat ---- Original Message ----- rom: "pyd_zac7" <[email protected]> o: <[email protected]> ent: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:49 AM ubject: [ENG-SOM] A family brick wall Having spent many hours trawling through the BDM records and Censuses trying to track down my Step Grandmother who married my grandfather in 1906 in Weston Super Mare I have now have to admit defeat in confirming when she was born and if and when her parents married in Bristol The marriage certificate of my grandfather Henry Rose states my step G/mother Florrie Gerrish was aged 43 therefore born in 1863 and that her father was John Gerrish a Cab Proprietor was deceased. <snip> ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

pyd_zac7 wrote: > The marriage certificate of my grandfather Henry Rose states my > step G/mother Florrie Gerrish was aged 43 therefore born in 1863 > and that her father was John Gerrish a Cab Proprietor was deceased. > > All the indications are that they originated in Clifton Bristol BUT > I cannot find her actual birth records in 1863 There appears to be > two John Gerrish marrying in 1864 a Mary Short who had a daughter > Mary Ann and the second John Gerrish marrying a Rosabella Dyer. BUT > again cannot find any trace of them in subsequent censuses. There's one in Q1 1864 in Bristol to either Mary Hobbs COOPER or Mary EVANS and on in Q2 1864 again in Bristol to either Rosabella DYER or Mary SHORT. A check in the 1871 census suggests Rosabella married Henry WIGLEY and there's a death that fits in Q1 1890 Barton R. > Except for a married John Gerrish - a Fly driver in 1881 without > any family living with him in Bristol. Since a Fly was a type of carriage, I'd say that was your man. If John didn't marry Rosabella and it appears he didn't, then it opens up the possibility that he married either Ann COLLINS or Martha JAYNE in Bristol Q3 1862 which I would favour as a more likely marriage date if Florrie was born in 1863. I'd suggest putting in a request to the GRO for a birth cert for a Florence/Florrie/Flora GERRISH b abt 1863 with a John GERRISH as her father and his occupation as Fly, Cab or other driver. It's possible they have the birth but it isn't in the indices. They'll do a search for a couple of years either side of that given. If they have it, they'll send it. If they don't, you get a full refund. If that draws a blank, try the local register office with the same information. There's a Florence GERRISH in the 1881 in Clutton, born Bristol, who's a parlour maid to Francis ARNOLD, a clergyman. Her age is given as 22 but age is a moveable feast! The nearest birth registration to the above Florence is Q4 1855 in Thornbury RD. A girl 14 and upwards would most likely have been working, possibly younger. Many girls went into service and if she was good at her job, she may have been "headhunted" and risen to working with a wealthy family and been anywhere the family had a home. > The only possibilty seems to be that before the Rosabella married > John in 1864 there was an unnamed female Dyer child born in the Jul > Aug Sep quarter which would coincide with Florries Birth date of > 3rd August 1863 which I obtained from the Old Folks home where she > died in 1952. Whilst the unnamed child could well be Rosabella's, I suggest that she is probably not the one you want. > It is very frustrating not to be able to find a trace of John > Gerrish before or after 1881 census and also for Florrie Gerrish > before she married my grandfather They'll surface eventually. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/