Hello, The following may be too distant and esoteric to be of much interest to most website members. However, I have become very interested in my Y-halpogroup, which is part of particular project with FamilytreeDNA, including several surnames, all with an early common ancestor. Perhaps 1500 to 2000 years ago.(Bailey is another of the surnames in the project.) The haplogroup is said to be unusual with a possible common ancestor in Somerset Shire area. Although my paternal surname is thought to be Gaelic or Celtic and we know from DNA results that our ancestors are from Cornwall, my Y-haplogroup may be from northern Europe, such as the Vikings. The Norse men seemed to have been everywhere in Europe, including Ireland, Scotland, England, Cornwall, and also western coast of France. Some Cregoe/Cragoe researcher believe that the surname may have been de Creve-coeur, a village in Normandy. The Creve-coeurs arrived in England with Normans accompanying William and his army. Robert de Creve-coeur began construction of the stone Leeds Castle in Kent. The phonetic similarities in Old English and French between Creve-coeur, Crequer, Crugowe, and Crocker has been of special interest to me. Steade In a message dated 11/7/2011 6:26:57 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hi Heather My Sarah Jane Crocker's parents were John & Emma who married in 1849 Clutton, John coming from Chew Stoke & Emma (nee Wyatt) from Nempnett Thanks to all of you who have posted a message about the Crocker's Cheers Lynette -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 7:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Crocker surname... Hi Lynette and Steade Just thought I'd mention that I have a Sarah Crocker, daughter of James and Mary, baptised Lympsham 1807. She marrried George Sealey Mogg in Lympsham in 1827. One of their daughters, Caroline married Jesse Fields and emigrated to America. I am in contact with some of their descendants there. I am related to the Field(s) and Sealey Mogg families of Lympsham. Regards Heather ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Heather My Sarah Jane Crocker's parents were John & Emma who married in 1849 Clutton, John coming from Chew Stoke & Emma (nee Wyatt) from Nempnett Thanks to all of you who have posted a message about the Crocker's Cheers Lynette -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 7:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Crocker surname... Hi Lynette and Steade Just thought I'd mention that I have a Sarah Crocker, daughter of James and Mary, baptised Lympsham 1807. She marrried George Sealey Mogg in Lympsham in 1827. One of their daughters, Caroline married Jesse Fields and emigrated to America. I am in contact with some of their descendants there. I am related to the Field(s) and Sealey Mogg families of Lympsham. Regards Heather

I haven't posted anything online for a while so will run my family names by everyone again. I had been in contact with a distant cousin or two but don't have current emails now. Kay Andrews Pittsburgh, PA USA

Re-posting my interest – Just in case the mystery can be solved please. SUTTON. Edward went to Ireland and met and married Mary Coates. They had a child Henry in Belfast in 1840 (according to marriage & death certs). SUTTON. Mary was on the 1841 census in Combe, St. Nicholas. But no sign of husband Edward or child Henry on census. SUTTON. Arabella was born 1843 in Combe, St. Nicholas. Birth cert. confirms parentage. SUTTON. Eleanor was born 1849 in Combe St. Nicholas. Birth cert. confirms parentage. According to a print out from Ireland about the Coates burial plot. It states Edward Sutton died and buried in Ireland 1850. This ties in with 1851 census of Combe St Nicholas that Mary is now a widow. Again on the 1861 census. Mystery is : Where did Mary go after Somerset? I have been unable to find her birth in Ireland. I have been unable to find her death. Why does her son Henry not show on the census of Somerset? (He migrated to Australia in about 1857) Where was her husband Edward ? Why did she come to Somerset? Perhaps this was Edward’s birthplace. Posting the above again – Just in case someone can solve my case. Regards.............Margaret a P

Steade, I also have Norse Viking ancestors who came into Falaise, France in the 900s according to a set of History books printed in the 1800s which I inherited. I will have to dig the books out of a box in the closet and see if I can find your names shown. My two Hinton ancestors accompanied Geoffrey de Mandeville from France to England in the Conquest and were given land in Northamptonshire - they not only received their land from Sir Geoffrey, they got their surname from the places they lived, Hinton and Hinton in the Hedges. Seems that only the noblemen had surnames prior to then. One of my cousins had his DNA tested to help us prove our lineage - not Somerset related but since there were nine (yes - 9) different DNA related Cobb families who moved to the Colonies in the 1600s, knowing from which one of these Cobb families we descended narrowed down our research quite a bit. Give me some time since I may not be home much during the holidays this winter. Margie Hinton in California ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 9:30 AM Subject: [ENG-SOM] Crocker - Cregow -Crugowe - de Crequer - de Crevecoeur. Hello, The following may be too distant and esoteric to be of much interest to most website members. However, I have become very interested in my Y-halpogroup, which is part of particular project with FamilytreeDNA, including several surnames, all with an early common ancestor. Perhaps 1500 to 2000 years ago.(Bailey is another of the surnames in the project.) The haplogroup is said to be unusual with a possible common ancestor in Somerset Shire area. Although my paternal surname is thought to be Gaelic or Celtic and we know from DNA results that our ancestors are from Cornwall, my Y-haplogroup may be from northern Europe, such as the Vikings. The Norse men seemed to have been everywhere in Europe, including Ireland, Scotland, England, Cornwall, and also western coast of France. Some Cregoe/Cragoe researcher believe that the surname may have been de Creve-coeur, a village in Normandy. The Creve-coeurs arrived in England with Normans accompanying William and his army. Robert de Creve-coeur began construction of the stone Leeds Castle in Kent. The phonetic similarities in Old English and French between Creve-coeur, Crequer, Crugowe, and Crocker has been of special interest to me. Steade

Hi Beverly, Had a look in the new Familysearch and found Humphrey Webber chr 16 October 1702 at Topsham, Devon. Parents Humphrey Webber and Elizabeth. Then their marraige Humphrey Webber, 8th September 1700, Topsham Devon to Elizabeth Lauis. It is on the old familysearch as well. Batch number P001841, source film 96276. The batch number gives you other children and others in Topsham. This could be your Humphrey. I haven't come across the name Humphrey in anyof our Webbers. Anyway take a look. Edie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverly Roth" <[email protected]> To: "somerset list somerset list" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 3:12 AM Subject: [ENG-SOM] Webber > > Since Webber is being discussed - hoping that someone may have a Humphrey > Webber born somewhere around 1701. He was married in Crewkerne but there > were no Webbers before him so he is from somewhere else - place unknown > > Thanks > Beverly > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many thanks again Martin. Through you I was able to find my forebears in Stringston, Nettlecombe and surrounding villages, and, per the Willeton RO, have copies of the certificates. Thanks also to your helpers. Nova Gilroy > Afternoon all, > > www.wsom.org.uk has been updated with Stogumber Baptisms, Marriages and > Burials taken back to 1653 thanks to some swift transcribing by Lesley > Morgan of Stogumber. There are some small gaps where we dont quite join up > with the existing years of transcription which I will endeavor to cover > when > I'm next at the SHC. My very great thanks to Lesley. > > You will also find that the first Baptisms for West Monkton are also now > on > the site, (I think I missed sending out an email when I uploaded these!) > > Cheers, > > Martin Southwood > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you - I'll certainly check it out!! Beverly > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 10:06:53 +1100 > Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Webber > > Hi Beverly, > Had a look in the new Familysearch and found Humphrey Webber chr 16 October > 1702 at Topsham, Devon. Parents Humphrey Webber and Elizabeth. Then their > marraige Humphrey Webber, 8th September 1700, Topsham Devon to Elizabeth > Lauis. It is on the old familysearch as well. Batch number P001841, source > film 96276. The batch number gives you other children and others in > Topsham. This could be your Humphrey. I haven't come across the name > Humphrey in anyof our Webbers. Anyway take a look. > Edie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Beverly Roth" <[email protected]> > To: "somerset list somerset list" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 3:12 AM > Subject: [ENG-SOM] Webber > > > > > > Since Webber is being discussed - hoping that someone may have a Humphrey > > Webber born somewhere around 1701. He was married in Crewkerne but there > > were no Webbers before him so he is from somewhere else - place unknown > > > > Thanks > > Beverly > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I must all follow the same sentiments on also thanking you Martin. You have worked tirelessly on all of these records. You are invaluable! The transcriptions have helped me also with the many Somerset ancestors I have. Without your input & loyalty, some of us wouldn't be able to find records nor information on our ancestors. A huge thank you for all you do to help everyone! Regards Diana Nowell

Génération 8 - N° 184 WEBBER, Humphrey Signe peut-être PARENTS WEBBER, William Marriage 2.9.1705 Crewkerne Décès : 2.1742 - Misterton GREENWAY, Diana EVENEMENTS PERSONNELS Birth :6.1705 - Crewkerne Somerset Gb Death27.4.1758 - Crewkerne Somerset Gb - 52 ans UNIONS Famille 1 (mariage) ROWSELL, Sarah (1714-1787) Âges à l'union : Elle a 28 ans - Il a 38 ans Mariage : 12.6.1743 - Crewkerne Somerset Gb ENFANTS De l'union avec ROWSELL, Sarah 92 - WEBBER, William Naissance : 19.4.1747 - Crewkerne Somerset Gb Mariage : 10.11.1767 - Beaminster- Dorset avec SYMES, Jane/Jean (-1821) Décès : 22.6.1812 (65 ans) - Broadwinsor Dorset (2 enfants) LIENS NOTES Previous marriages x1 : 10.9.1726 Anne CROFT/CROFT of POLLARD Dorset x2 : 21.12.1740 Mary WINSOR Autres enfants : Crewkerne - Humphrey ° 13.10.1745 3 + possibles : 26.1.1823 / 23.1.1831 / 21.1.1848 - William ° 19.4.1747 - Robert ° 5.8.1753 - George ° 21.7.1751 ALBUM PHOTOS Hello Beverly , Here is my personal fiche concerning Humphrey WEBBER . He is my direct ancestor. Do you want his descendency down to me ? Jean-Marie

Chris, have you checked the Mariners list or the National ARchives Kew site for George Webber if he was a Shis Captain at one time. You may have some luck there. The mariners list is very helpful. Edie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Crawford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 12:48 PM Subject: [ENG-SOM] BALE + WEBBER Hi all :-) My main surnames in Somerset are : BALE family : in and about Wellington. Have a James, (Mar Ann's father) but have no real idea where or when he was born. Have Mary Ann's birth of Microfilm from the LDS. Though there are links with Culmstock (her mother, GILLARD, Mary, was born there) in Devon, which is just over the County border. WEBBER, George 7 Mar 1815/1811 : in and about Bridgwater. Birthday written in his daughter's "Rememberance Book" I put in and about VERY seriously with this surname as I've read through MANY microfilms at the LDS look for a birth which DID happen, but can not be found.............. (I am living proof of this birth! ;-) ) BALE, Mary Ann ( 20 Jan 1832 Wellington, Som. - 8 Sept 1910 Victoria, Australia.) married (7 Nov 1850 in Australia) WEBBER,, George (7 Mar 1815 OR 1811 Bridgwater, Som. - 7 Apr 1871 Victoria, Australia.) If you have a 'lost' a George WEBBER and think he might be one of yours, please feel very free to contact me.... It appears he left for Australia early in the 1840's. He was reputed to be a Ship's Captain, but when he died he was a Shoemaker, due to health reasons. ANY ideas??? Please, I would be most grateful for :-)) Thank you for taking the time to read this, Chris in Tasmania " OLD , anywhere, anytime." Buckinghamshire, AND Surrey: MEADER; BERSEY; Dor:OLD; HOOPER; ILES; DAVIS; MEADER; BERSEY; Ham.: GALE; YOUNG; FREWIN; VINCENT; HULBERT; MOSS; PHELPS; Som.: WEBBER; BALE; Suff.: TYLER; LEEKS; Aust. Vic.: WEBBER; BALE; HALE; LARCOMBE; KENNETT; Aust. Tas.: OLD; GALE; Please visit: www.dorset-opc.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Afternoon all, www.wsom.org.uk has been updated with Stogumber Baptisms, Marriages and Burials taken back to 1653 thanks to some swift transcribing by Lesley Morgan of Stogumber. There are some small gaps where we dont quite join up with the existing years of transcription which I will endeavor to cover when I'm next at the SHC. My very great thanks to Lesley. You will also find that the first Baptisms for West Monkton are also now on the site, (I think I missed sending out an email when I uploaded these!) Cheers, Martin Southwood

Many thanks to Martin for all his work transcribing parish regs and encouraging and helping others in this work. His website is a mass of information. Well done. Sarah Baddeley -----Original Message----- From: Martin Southwood <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 15:30 Subject: [ENG-SOM] Site update Afternoon all, www.wsom.org.uk has been updated with Stogumber Baptisms, Marriages and urials taken back to 1653 thanks to some swift transcribing by Lesley organ of Stogumber. There are some small gaps where we dont quite join up ith the existing years of transcription which I will endeavor to cover when 'm next at the SHC. My very great thanks to Lesley. You will also find that the first Baptisms for West Monkton are also now on he site, (I think I missed sending out an email when I uploaded these!) Cheers, Martin Southwood ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Many thanks Martin and everyone else concerned with these transcriptions - they have been a tremendous help to me in my Somerset searches. All th ebest, WENDY

Dear Philip, I expect so somewhere along the line, as it is such an unusual name, though only via my gt. grandad's second marriage [we come from the first one]. One of his daughters married an IND and I tracked some births for them, 20thC, but I have not tracked them back further than Cornwall as yet. I would love to have contact with some of his [Henry OSMOND's] other descendants as we only have one photo of my grandfather and none of any others in the family. I will make a note of the soldier. Best wishes and thanks, WENDY

I did find a marriage for Humphrey Webber and Betty Rose in Misterton in 29 December 1766 Humphrey Webber (X) bachelor and Betty Rose (X) Maiden of this parish witnesses john Crattock (?) and John Munford this would account for the following births and deaths Betty WEBBER ? Mar 1776 Humphry Betty Crewkerne William WEBBER 14 Oct 1778 Humphry Betty Crewkerne Sarah WEBBER 8 Sep 1784 Humphrey Betty Crewkerne death Betty Webber 2 July 1800 age 60 years Crewkerne Val Gray Ontario ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverly Roth" <[email protected]> To: "somerset list somerset list" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 11:12 AM Subject: [ENG-SOM] Webber > > Since Webber is being discussed - hoping that someone may have a Humphrey > Webber born somewhere around 1701. He was married in Crewkerne but there > were no Webbers before him so he is from somewhere else - place unknown > > Thanks > Beverly > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Are your IND family related to Alfred who was awarded a VC in the Boer War? He was from Tetbury Philip Maddocks ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 9:28 AM Subject: [ENG-SOM] LIST OF SURNAMES - RE. QIET LIST >I wiill re-send my list of surname and location interests just in case > there are some rellies out there. > > COLES - Brompton Ralph, Stogumber, Wiveliscombe area/ > > BALE - ditto > > ROUTLEY - Stogumber > > BOND - Porlock and district > > OSMOND - Somerset, Dorset, Devonshire > > IND - ditto > > Best regards, > WENDY > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes - as far as I can figure out - all the Webbers in the Crewkerne/Misterton area are descendants of the Humphrey Webber born about 1701 - the problem is I can't find HIM!!! Beverly > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 14:07:30 -0500 > Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Webber > > > I did find a marriage for Humphrey Webber and Betty Rose in Misterton in 29 > December 1766 > Humphrey Webber (X) bachelor and Betty Rose (X) Maiden > > of this parish witnesses john Crattock (?) and John Munford > > this would account for the following births and deaths > Betty WEBBER ? Mar 1776 Humphry Betty Crewkerne > > William WEBBER 14 Oct 1778 Humphry Betty Crewkerne > > Sarah WEBBER 8 Sep 1784 Humphrey Betty Crewkerne > > death Betty Webber 2 July 1800 age 60 years Crewkerne > > > > Val Gray > > Ontario > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Beverly Roth" <[email protected]> > To: "somerset list somerset list" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 11:12 AM > Subject: [ENG-SOM] Webber > > > > > > Since Webber is being discussed - hoping that someone may have a Humphrey > > Webber born somewhere around 1701. He was married in Crewkerne but there > > were no Webbers before him so he is from somewhere else - place unknown > > > > Thanks > > Beverly > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bob No I don't have any of these Crocker's but I will keep a note of them in case I come across them in my research Cheers Lynette -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 11:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-SOM] Crocker surname... I know this may be a wild card but it may be of interest. One of my Catchpole family married an Alfred Crocker. Sarah Ann Catchpole married a John Chandler in 1897 in Moorlinch Somerset and had two children Henry and Herbert. John Chandler died in 1898. In the 1901 census Sarah is working as a housekeeper at 32 Hill House, Moorlinch, Bridgwater for Alfred Crocker who was a Master Mariner. Sarah married Alfred in 1902 in Brentford Middlesex. Alfred came from Middlesex. regards Bob

Here are my interests in Somerset Walter CATCHPOLE of Norfolk married Elizabeth CLARK of Stowell Somerset daughter of John CLARK and Mary Jane SMITH James CATCHPOLE of Norfolk married Eliza WHEELER of Greinton Somerset daughter of Thomas WHEELER and Hannah PHELPS Would like to hear from anyone connected to these names Regards Bob Newell