My goodness, seems like we are going to have a good time now with Wolfie and Mellie. I do have something to say regarding the sharing of information with limitations. Years ago I was just like most genealogists. What I found was MINE!. Soooo....I took the family back 3 more generations than anyone EVER took this family back. Don't ask for the info unless you intend to keep it a secret. Of course the inevitable occurred as it always does when you share secrets. The cat was soon out of the bag. Much of my research was very quickly becoming everyone else's great find and my name was lost in the shuffle. I fussed, I fumed. One day I woke up. What good does it do me to sit here and get angry over this? In fact, these people may have done me a favor. The more my information gets out, the more people out there hear about it, the better chances are that I may be able to break down my brick walls. What I imagined DID OCCUR!!! I started by sharing whatever I found on the Internet that may be of use to other's on the Rootsweb lists. My name and my interests started becoming known and my philosophy of sharing what I find with others rubbed off. Soon people were contacting me with what I needed and within two years I got an email from a friend who appreciates my work and he gave me the clue that set me back one more generation, with the proof to confirm it. HOLLY COW!!!!!!!! I am so pleased that my efforts have paid off for me and hope it continues to do so. I also pray that everyone reading this understands what I'm trying to say. Keeping secrets is no way to conduct a genealogical investigation. Spread your word and works and it will come back to bless you. PS. It is ALWAYS nice when credit is given where it is due, but if it is not that's the nature of the beast. Don't be hurt, just keep killing them with honey. You will be the bigger "man" for it. Sincerely, Renee L. Waring Owner Operator The Center for Waring Family History "We live as long as we are remembered." F = Luther Perks Waring m. Leah Jane Vaughn Clearfield Co., PA, USA GF = Edmund Luther Waring m. Eva Ruth Breth Clearfield Co., PA, USA GGF = Franklin Bowman Waring m. Florence Curley Clearfield Co., PA, USA GGGF = Thomas Waring m. Margery Beers 1836 Clearfield Co., PA, USA GGGGF = William Waring (Grandfather of William Griffith Waring) m. Gynnllian Hancorn 1793 Herefordshire, Engl. GGGGGF = Edmund Waring m. Anne Cooke 1748 Leominster, Herefordshire, England GGGGGGF = William Waring m. Margery Barley (Barloe) 1719 Leominster, Herefordshire, England GGGGGGGF = Andrew Waring (1665 - ) m. Ann Leominster, Herefordshire, England GGGGGGGGF = Andrew Waring m .Margaret Hays 1662 Shropshire, England GGGGGGGGGF = Henry Waring m. Joanne Pierce 1639 Shropshire, England

Hi Renee Congratulations on your family tree back to 1639 WOW!!!!!!! Here is me proud just to go back to 1850 Please share just how you were able to go back so far We, us, that struggle with our families would dearly love to know just how it is done Bye for now Joy in Australia > Sincerely, > Renee L. Waring > Owner Operator > The Center for Waring Family History > "We live as long as we are remembered." > F = Luther Perks Waring m. Leah Jane Vaughn Clearfield Co., PA, USA > GF = Edmund Luther Waring m. Eva Ruth Breth Clearfield Co., PA, USA > GGF = Franklin Bowman Waring m. Florence Curley Clearfield Co., PA, USA > GGGF = Thomas Waring m. Margery Beers 1836 Clearfield Co., PA, USA > GGGGF = William Waring (Grandfather of William Griffith Waring) m. > Gynnllian > Hancorn 1793 Herefordshire, Engl. > GGGGGF = Edmund Waring m. Anne Cooke 1748 Leominster, Herefordshire, > England > GGGGGGF = William Waring m. Margery Barley (Barloe) 1719 Leominster, > Herefordshire, England > GGGGGGGF = Andrew Waring (1665 - ) m. Ann Leominster, Herefordshire, > England > GGGGGGGGF = Andrew Waring m .Margaret Hays 1662 Shropshire, England > GGGGGGGGGF = Henry Waring m. Joanne Pierce 1639 Shropshire, England >

Hi Renee Congratulations on your family tree back to 1639 WOW!!!!!!! Here is me proud just to go back to 1850 Please share just how you were able to go back so far We, us, that struggle with our families would dearly love to know just how it is done Bye for now Joy in Australia Joy you have every right to be proud, I know some people who are stuggling to get to 1901, knowing that if they can just get there the censuses will do the rest!! and then there are some lines that are very well documented, in the US for example the pioneers etc their immigrant records are worthy! in Aus you have some good convict records, Britland has not always done well with preserving records,, some lines are well documented due to land title deeds,a s is one of mine back to 1530 plus a generation beyond birthdate unknown! 1 rellie or 1000 rellies, as long as each "new" find excites you as much as the first, as long as you feel totally frsutrated at that missing link that will make it all fit, then you have every right to be proud of your genealogy. of course you could throw out your 1850 brick wall if thats what it is and see if anyone can help, even if its just another possible way for you to research it, thats what genealogy is about, sharing with caring!! so come on lets have the 1850 brick wall and mull it around you never know.......... Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back?

Hi there, I agree with much of what Renee says. I had an archive of Alveley info, pics etc that did'nt see the light of day for many years, once I started sharing it, it became hundred fold ! (literally !! - our terrace house does't seem big enough anymore!) The more you dig the more you find ! Re copying, This is a difficult one, I think i just depends what's copied. One day I discovered a Shropshire newspaper had printed an article that I had researched for a local history society. It was reproduced without my permission, or any reference to me etc. I rang the editor's office and gave them a right mouth full ! The following week they printed an apology. Happy hunting everyone ! Best Wishes, Margaret From: Reneelwaring@aol.com To: ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-SHROP] Re: Good Afternoon Shropshire Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 19:35:14 EDT My goodness, seems like we are going to have a good time now with Wolfie and Mellie. I do have something to say regarding the sharing of information with limitations. Years ago I was just like most genealogists. What I found was MINE!. Soooo....I took the family back 3 more generations than anyone EVER took this family back. Don't ask for the info unless you intend to keep it a secret. Of course the inevitable occurred as it always does when you share secrets. The cat was soon out of the bag. Much of my research was very quickly becoming everyone else's great find and my name was lost in the shuffle. I fussed, I fumed. One day I woke up. What good does it do me to sit here and get angry over this? In fact, these people may have done me a favor. The more my information gets out, the more people out there hear about it, the better chances are that I may be able to break down my brick walls. What I imagined DID OCCUR!!! I started by sharing whatever I found on the Internet that may be of use to other's on the Rootsweb lists. My name and my interests started becoming known and my philosophy of sharing what I find with others rubbed off. Soon people were contacting me with what I needed and within two years I got an email from a friend who appreciates my work and he gave me the clue that set me back one more generation, with the proof to confirm it. HOLLY COW!!!!!!!! I am so pleased that my efforts have paid off for me and hope it continues to do so. I also pray that everyone reading this understands what I'm trying to say. Keeping secrets is no way to conduct a genealogical investigation. Spread your word and works and it will come back to bless you. PS. It is ALWAYS nice when credit is given where it is due, but if it is not that's the nature of the beast. Don't be hurt, just keep killing them with honey. You will be the bigger "man" for it. Sincerely, Renee L. Waring Owner Operator The Center for Waring Family History "We live as long as we are remembered." F = Luther Perks Waring m. Leah Jane Vaughn Clearfield Co., PA, USA GF = Edmund Luther Waring m. Eva Ruth Breth Clearfield Co., PA, USA GGF = Franklin Bowman Waring m. Florence Curley Clearfield Co., PA, USA GGGF = Thomas Waring m. Margery Beers 1836 Clearfield Co., PA, USA GGGGF = William Waring (Grandfather of William Griffith Waring) m. Gynnllian Hancorn 1793 Herefordshire, Engl. GGGGGF = Edmund Waring m. Anne Cooke 1748 Leominster, Herefordshire, England GGGGGGF = William Waring m. Margery Barley (Barloe) 1719 Leominster, Herefordshire, England GGGGGGGF = Andrew Waring (1665 - ) m. Ann Leominster, Herefordshire, England GGGGGGGGF = Andrew Waring m .Margaret Hays 1662 Shropshire, England GGGGGGGGGF = Henry Waring m. Joanne Pierce 1639 Shropshire, England ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== TO view Eng-Shropshire-Plus archived messages click here: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS.html If you're new to the list, there may be something useful in the archives ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx