Hay I am so confused here Jo, Ill have to study this a bit more I assumed I had found this elusive gggrandfather of mine OH well I shall just have to keep trying. BUT THANK YOU for your information I really appreciate it. from a confused West Australian. Glenys in Ozz ----- Original Message ----- From: "twigs" <twigs@dsl.pipex.com> To: <ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] Speak(s) Wistanstow & Acton Scott > In two emails Glenys wrote: s "Joseph Speak born 6/4/1821 > parents Joseph Speak & Mary Holt." and also > "Joseph Speak b 6/4/1821 Winstantow, > I do not know his occupation or his parents but from what I have heard > he was a farmer, where I no not, His father was killed c 1826-30, His > mother remarried, again Unknown. > Joseph jr, came to Australia in January of 1841, leaving from > Liverpool, > He was a Carpenter, That's all I know." > > Getting intriging this. Obviously Glenys you need to check below very > carefully. Some Speak names are have Speaks spelling. Excuse me if you > have already found these, but in view of your statement above, think it > worth writing. > > Person Joseph Speak(s) married a Mary Rowland, 1820, and a Mary Jackson > 1814, Acton Scott (very near Wistanstow), this souce does not say if > either of these were a widow or not (possibly giving name change). > Also a Joseph Speak married Hannah Mills in 1823 in Church Stretton. > > On igi, two Joseph Speake births C016042 for Wistanstow.with parents > Joseph and Mary, and two burials there for infant Josephs there in 1819 > and 1821 > These dates would cover the two, so either a duplication of names there - > very common this - or your Joseph born April 1821 one of the infants. > Also on that batch number, person Joseph Speake(s) and mum Hannah, had > four children, one being a Joseph christened 1831. > Person Mary Speakes buried Wistanstow Sep 1821, and a Hannah Speaks > marrried a Samuel Amies in 1835, and would seem to have given birth to > children with surnames spelt at Amos, Amiss, Amies. (this was either > Action Scott or Wistanstow, you will see from the IGI). > > Will save the old directories till later, as they are a bit cumbersome to > look through. > > Trust not too confusing, Jo. > > > ==== ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS Mailing List ==== > DO NOT send virus/worm/hoax warnings to the list. If you receive a > suspicious e-mail with an attachment, delete it. Virus discussions are a > no-no. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.9/417 - Release Date: 11/08/2006 > >