As my first post to this list, I feel I must jump in to the debate on DNA testing. I think that people whose families have lived in Britain, or anywhere for that matter, for many generations, cannot understand what it is like to be a "Colonial", as we in Canada, Australia, NZ & the US are - we are genealogical orphans often with no paper trail to follow and sometimes our ancestors came many different countries. For us, DNA testing is perhaps the only way we can connect to our ancestral lines, in our lifetime. When I started at this game of family history, I knew very little about my mother's family and virtually nothing about my fathers. With a great deal of time and work I have put together a large and accurate (ie. fully documented) tree, but there were gaps and questions, so I badgered my brother to give a DNA sample to prove or disprove our relationship to a family of "three brothers who came from Yorkshire" and settled in Quebec. Other descendants of the brothers also had a test and it has shown conclusively that while 2 of these men were brothers, my ancestor was not even remotely related to them. Now I live in hope that some nice person somewhere will have his DNA tested and I will get the magical notification that we have shared a common ancestor within the last 2 or 3 generations, which will allow me to find our true ancestors. So, if your name is ROBINSON, get thee to a lab and have a test, please! Oh yes, this is the Shropshire list! This I am sure of: my family names are: BICKLEY, (Hordley, Ellesmere); and DAVIES, specifically looking for Samuel DAVIES who was an auctioneer by trade and was probably born C1800; his daughter Mary, b.C1830 was my gggrandmother, born Welshpool. Best wishes, Diana Robinson Winchester, Ont.