Hi Marjorie, This is probably not relevant, but you asked for "any bits at all", so here goes: In the 1851 census there was a 41 yr old Humphrey Lloyd, a faint possibility being your Humphrey's father at Rodney Inn, Ironbridge, with his mother Susannah Lloyd (the Innkeeper). It is recorded at Schedule 5 in section (1-12). (View the second recorded(1-12)Sunday- it is clearer.) http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ENG-IRONBRIDGEGORGE/2004-08 Richard, NZ. -----Original Message----- From: JMTsparks Humphrey LLOYD married Elizabeth BARKLEY by bond of GBP 500 and also a license in Aug 1897, in Ellesmere. On most of their 8 children's birth records he is a SLATER. They were born in a few various places, Duddleston, Shrewsbury, Colcham, Castle Foregate. Would a SLATER have to keep moving in order to work? Work where? A quarry? a mine, just cut and install slate for roofs? Might he have been born in neighbouring Wales and learned the trade there? I welcome any ideas, theories any bits at all. I cannot find a birth, a death or any census for this family. I do not have access to the 1841. I do have access to all other census, and am certainly willing to trade info and precious time. Regards, Marjorie Lloyd, Nevada, USA