Hi Martin IGI shows Martha CADMANs bap. in Wombridge which is only 4.5 miles from Dawley? Doesn't the wedding certificate show her father this would give you a clue if you have found the right one? Pam -----Original Message----- From: eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Martin Adams Sent: 09 October 2006 17:17 To: eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] CADMAN Hi Graham, You have been helpful to me in the past and I certainly take on board what you say. Certainly something to think about as I am now pushing my way back on all sides of the family pre-1838. I live in Suffolk so my Essex mob are not too difficult, but Black Country and Shropshire are proving a little more difficult. regards. Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Price" <genetree@pacific.net.au> To: <eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] CADMAN > At 07:14 PM 8/10/2006, Martin Adams wrote: >>Having seen Barbara's CADMAN request, it reminded me that I have a >>Martha CADMAN born around 1801 in Dawley. I have her wedding and >>subsequent details but nothing about her actual date of birth or parents. > > Hi > Again, as my dear old list friend Keith Roberts says not trying to > teach grandmothers to suck eggs, but if you go to Hugh Wallis' > website and type in Cadman for Dawley, up comes a Martha Cadman > christened 1797, which is soooooooo close. Could be, eh? Otherwise > yours may have been baptized at another parish very close by. > > Also, I don't want to keep harping on this to the list lest I be seen > as an advertiser or pusher or some such, but LDS at their local FH > libraries scattered throughout the world in various towns do allow > you to order in at their local libraries the original copies of > parish registers and also Bishops Transcripts on microfilm for a very > small fee; in Australia it is a mere $5, which is probably only about > $3 in the US and Canada. That is an amazing low cost for a whole or > part parish register. Which means that you can really get your teeth > absolutely into family history research and do it all by yourself > (with exciting results) at long last and not rely upon others. My > advice, do it yourself if you can, it is more exhilarating that > way. I am still gob-smacked after all these years why more people > don't take up this offering. After all, you are then looking at > original registers!!! Where else are you going to get them unless you > live on the spot or are geographically close to the particular record > office? Here are the original baptisms, marriages, burials etc. > written in hand by the local vicar or the curate (mind you, vicars > often stood back and let the several curates do the work unless > someone of a fair importance to the parish was being married or > buried, let alone baptisms). > > Re. my experience, I have had so many parish registers and Bishop > Transcripts viewed on microfilm since 1994 at the local LDS FH > library in my suburb and which have brought me so much success so > that why would I not promote this way of researching? (And no, they > don't check your religion or lack of it! It is a library, enough > said.) I guess, as an estimate at this present time in 2006, I have > had close to 200 microfilms viewed since 1994, and only a very small > handful, perhaps less than 10, though I think it was really only > around about 6, have failed to give me what I was looking for. That, > surely, is a magnificent result over all those years. Perhaps that is > the main reason why my computer database of connected family > relatives has risen from 250 in 1994 to over 4000 in 2006? I feel I > have to share this with you. Back in 1994 an LDS family history > researcher said to me that she had over ten thousand on her computer > database, all connected folk in her family tree. To be honest, at the > time I smiled and said nothing, thinking this was foolishness. Then > as the years unfolded and I myself found living members of my family > tree, I too began to add in persons/families 40 or 50 at a time, then > I found a marriage in 1863 that linked two of my family branches > together, all perfectly certified by marriage certificate etc., and > because of this marriage there was added almost 200 folks dead and > living to my computer database in one fell swoop from a distant > cousin. Of course it all had to be proved out, which it was. But just > goes to show you how things can easily escalate in family history > research. > > BUT again, one must always remember that one must know what one is > looking for re. parish records and it is necessary to look in the > right place. So just ordering a microfilm in case it MIGHT contain > something of worth to you is not necessarily the correct thing to do. > You have to pin things down to the very parish, the very village if > necessary. In many cases the IGI, the BVR disks and the Free BMD will > do this for you, but not always. > > So, ask for help. That's wot we are here for. To help. Do it. > Cherrio > Graham > Melbourne > Oz > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pam, Unfortunately the wedding was in 1823, so no certificate I'm afraid. Regards Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Craven" <pamcraven@mynow.co.uk> To: <eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] CADMAN > Hi Martin > > IGI shows Martha CADMANs bap. in Wombridge which is only 4.5 miles from > Dawley? Doesn't the wedding certificate show her father this would give > you > a clue if you have found the right one? > > Pam > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-shropshire-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Martin > Adams > Sent: 09 October 2006 17:17 > To: eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] CADMAN > > Hi Graham, You have been helpful to me in the past and I certainly take on > board what you say. Certainly something to think about as I am now pushing > my way back on all sides of the family pre-1838. I live in Suffolk so my > Essex mob are not too difficult, but Black Country and Shropshire are > proving a little more difficult. > regards. > Martin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham Price" <genetree@pacific.net.au> > To: <eng-shropshire-plus@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:04 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-SHROP] CADMAN > > >> At 07:14 PM 8/10/2006, Martin Adams wrote: >>>Having seen Barbara's CADMAN request, it reminded me that I have a >>>Martha CADMAN born around 1801 in Dawley. I have her wedding and >>>subsequent details but nothing about her actual date of birth or parents. >> >> Hi >> Again, as my dear old list friend Keith Roberts says not trying to >> teach grandmothers to suck eggs, but if you go to Hugh Wallis' >> website and type in Cadman for Dawley, up comes a Martha Cadman >> christened 1797, which is soooooooo close. Could be, eh? Otherwise >> yours may have been baptized at another parish very close by. >> >> Also, I don't want to keep harping on this to the list lest I be seen >> as an advertiser or pusher or some such, but LDS at their local FH >> libraries scattered throughout the world in various towns do allow >> you to order in at their local libraries the original copies of >> parish registers and also Bishops Transcripts on microfilm for a very >> small fee; in Australia it is a mere $5, which is probably only about >> $3 in the US and Canada. That is an amazing low cost for a whole or >> part parish register. Which means that you can really get your teeth >> absolutely into family history research and do it all by yourself >> (with exciting results) at long last and not rely upon others. My >> advice, do it yourself if you can, it is more exhilarating that >> way. I am still gob-smacked after all these years why more people >> don't take up this offering. After all, you are then looking at >> original registers!!! Where else are you going to get them unless you >> live on the spot or are geographically close to the particular record >> office? Here are the original baptisms, marriages, burials etc. >> written in hand by the local vicar or the curate (mind you, vicars >> often stood back and let the several curates do the work unless >> someone of a fair importance to the parish was being married or >> buried, let alone baptisms). >> >> Re. my experience, I have had so many parish registers and Bishop >> Transcripts viewed on microfilm since 1994 at the local LDS FH >> library in my suburb and which have brought me so much success so >> that why would I not promote this way of researching? (And no, they >> don't check your religion or lack of it! It is a library, enough >> said.) I guess, as an estimate at this present time in 2006, I have >> had close to 200 microfilms viewed since 1994, and only a very small >> handful, perhaps less than 10, though I think it was really only >> around about 6, have failed to give me what I was looking for. That, >> surely, is a magnificent result over all those years. Perhaps that is >> the main reason why my computer database of connected family >> relatives has risen from 250 in 1994 to over 4000 in 2006? I feel I >> have to share this with you. Back in 1994 an LDS family history >> researcher said to me that she had over ten thousand on her computer >> database, all connected folk in her family tree. To be honest, at the >> time I smiled and said nothing, thinking this was foolishness. Then >> as the years unfolded and I myself found living members of my family >> tree, I too began to add in persons/families 40 or 50 at a time, then >> I found a marriage in 1863 that linked two of my family branches >> together, all perfectly certified by marriage certificate etc., and >> because of this marriage there was added almost 200 folks dead and >> living to my computer database in one fell swoop from a distant >> cousin. Of course it all had to be proved out, which it was. But just >> goes to show you how things can easily escalate in family history >> research. >> >> BUT again, one must always remember that one must know what one is >> looking for re. parish records and it is necessary to look in the >> right place. So just ordering a microfilm in case it MIGHT contain >> something of worth to you is not necessarily the correct thing to do. >> You have to pin things down to the very parish, the very village if >> necessary. In many cases the IGI, the BVR disks and the Free BMD will >> do this for you, but not always. >> >> So, ask for help. That's wot we are here for. To help. Do it. >> Cherrio >> Graham >> Melbourne >> Oz >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Martin While checking the IGI for possible Thomas CADMANs in Wombridge I noticed that 2 had a sister Martha. Have you seen the film with Martha's marriage? Sometimes it has father's name or witnesses to help in the search. Thomas CADMAN had a son Joseph, and I see from the 1851 census that Martha also had a son Joseph. On the IGI Joseph and Elizabeth had children Thomas and Martha. Please let me know if you find out more about Martha Barbara >Hi Martin > >IGI shows Martha CADMANs bap. in Wombridge which is only 4.5 miles from >Dawley? Doesn't the wedding certificate show her father this would give you >a clue if you have found the right one? > >Pam > >-----Original Message----- >Hi Keith, Many thanks for that. It throws up a birth in 1797 which could be >right and a marriage of possible parents in 1793. the interesting thing is, >the possible father John Cadman married a Jane Dangerfield and the daughter >Martha married a Joseph Dangerfield in Everton in 1823. The plot thickens. >very grateful for your advice and not an egg in site!. >Regards >Martin > > > > >>At 07:14 PM 8/10/2006, Martin Adams wrote: >> >> >>>Having seen Barbara's CADMAN request, it reminded me that I have a >>>Martha CADMAN born around 1801 in Dawley. I have her wedding and >>>subsequent details but nothing about her actual date of birth or parents. >>> >>>