I think I need to add my two cents. I run a one-name-study group and at one time pushed to have my members do a DNA test. One man did a 12 point test. Turned out he matched with a name that our family histories show is related to our surname. They recommented that he spend a little more money and get the 24 point test kone which he did. When the second test was done they said he had "O" matches to the other feller but darn it wouldn't you know he is a perfect match with a guy from Spain who has his workup done to. Now you all know that Waring is an English surname. There is no connection to Spain whatsoever and no spanish in his background either. I have the Waring gentleman's workup back to the 1200's. There is no Spanish connection. We asked them to redue the test since it didn't make sense that my Waring matched the first fellow on the 12 point but didn't even match him with "1" point on the 24. They refused. I smell a "scam". The laboritory is one known by all of you but I won't name it. All I know is I no longer support this type of research and would "never" recommend it to any of my researchers. I feel sorry for the guy that put out all that money for the testing. If I could refund his money I would. Sincerely, Renee L. Waring Owner Operator The Center for Waring Family History "We live as long as we are remembered." F = Luther Perks Waring m. Leah Jane Vaughn Clearfield Co., PA, USA GF = Edmund Luther Waring m. Eva Ruth Breth Clearfield Co., PA, USA GGF = Franklin Bowman Waring m. Florence Curley Clearfield Co., PA, USA GGGF = Thomas Waring m. Margery Beers 1836 Clearfield Co., PA, USA GGGGF = William Waring (Grandfather of William Griffith Waring) m. Gynnllian Hancorn 1793 Herefordshire, Engl. GGGGGF = Edmund Waring m. Anne Cooke 1748 Leominster, Herefordshire, England GGGGGGF = William Waring m. Margery Barley (Barloe) 1719 Leominster, Herefordshire, England GGGGGGGF = Andrew Waring (1665 - ) m. Ann Leominster, Herefordshire, England GGGGGGGGF = Andrew Waring m .Margaret Hays 1662 Shropshire, England GGGGGGGGGF = Henry Waring m. Joanne Pierce 1637 Shropshire, England

Hello I think it would be at best unfair and at worst naïve to call genealogy DNA testing a sham. In my experience of genealogy as an academic researcher, I have found far more errors in genealogical 'research' from human beings than both amateur and paid 'researchers' would like to think. And is it not at all possible, in centuries of "record keeping', that a woman might have had more freedom and licence that she would like to let on to the record collectors? Sue On 3/10/06 9:00 pm, "Reneelwaring@aol.com" <Reneelwaring@aol.com> wrote: > I think I need to add my two cents. I run a one-name-study group and at one > time pushed to have my members do a DNA test. One man did a 12 point test. > Turned out he matched with a name that our family histories show is related to > our surname. They recommented that he spend a little more money and get the > 24 point test kone which he did. When the second test was done they said he > had "O" matches to the other feller but darn it wouldn't you know he is a > perfect match with a guy from Spain who has his workup done to. Now you all > know > that Waring is an English surname. There is no connection to Spain whatsoever > and no spanish in his background either. I have the Waring gentleman's workup > back to the 1200's. There is no Spanish connection. > > We asked them to redue the test since it didn't make sense that my Waring > matched the first fellow on the 12 point but didn't even match him with "1" > point > on the 24. They refused. > > I smell a "scam". The laboritory is one known by all of you but I won't name > it. All I know is I no longer support this type of research and would > "never" recommend it to any of my researchers. I feel sorry for the guy that > put > out all that money for the testing. If I could refund his money I would. > > Sincerely, > > > Renee L. Waring > Owner Operator > The Center for Waring Family History > "We live as long as we are remembered." > F = Luther Perks Waring m. Leah Jane Vaughn Clearfield Co., PA, USA > GF = Edmund Luther Waring m. Eva Ruth Breth Clearfield Co., PA, USA > GGF = Franklin Bowman Waring m. Florence Curley Clearfield Co., PA, USA > GGGF = Thomas Waring m. Margery Beers 1836 Clearfield Co., PA, USA > GGGGF = William Waring (Grandfather of William Griffith Waring) m. Gynnllian > Hancorn 1793 Herefordshire, Engl. > GGGGGF = Edmund Waring m. Anne Cooke 1748 Leominster, Herefordshire, England > GGGGGGF = William Waring m. Margery Barley (Barloe) 1719 Leominster, > Herefordshire, England > GGGGGGGF = Andrew Waring (1665 - ) m. Ann Leominster, Herefordshire, England > GGGGGGGGF = Andrew Waring m .Margaret Hays 1662 Shropshire, England > GGGGGGGGGF = Henry Waring m. Joanne Pierce 1637 Shropshire, England > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-SHROPSHIRE-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Renee If you have a connection with a Gertrude Waring, possibly Lady Waring 1900s, get in touch OFF-LIST as I have an extraction from "The Times" you might like to see regarding a court case. Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz